bad sector wrote:
> On 3/12/24 17:06, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2024-03-10 17:50, bad sector wrote:
>>> On 3/8/24 06:05, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2024-03-08 05:19, bad sector wrote:
>>>>> On 3/7/24 16:54, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-03-07 22:15, bad sector wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/7/24 08:09, Malcolm wrote:
>>
>>>> If it is an expensive, good, nvidia card, I would try hard and long.
>>>>
>>>> In my case, when I had to replace the computer, I changed video
>>>> brand. The old machine is still using nvidia with nouveau, but
>>>> experiences locks.
>>>
>>> It cost around $200 years ago, good enough technically but if I had
>>> known the driver hell it woud bring me I would NEVER have bought it,
>>> the AMD should be here this week
>>
>> AMD could be hell ages ago; I don't remember the details, but they
>> stopped supporting certain range of cards, and the Linux own support
>> was primitive. Then one day AMD decided to do something in the line of
>> opening up their drivers or specs or both (again, I don't remember the
>> details). The thing is, that now their cards work very well out of the
>> box. The situation should be similar to Intel graphics, but Intel
>> neglects to solve bugs. I have a light machine and two laptops with
>> Intel graphics, and all have one problem or another.
>
> Similar story, in another life the 'other' (radion) cards had huge Linux
> driver problems and that's why i went to nvidia; looks like it's gone
> full circle  ..or at least a 180 :-)
>
>

The last time I went for nVidia was in 2008, and even then it was
because I'd forgotten to check what graphics the PC I was buying had.
Can't complain though, that machine worked (mostly) with nouveau until
it ceased working altogether.
The (mostly) was when the openSuse maintainer released a broken patch
for the kernel just before going on holiday for a few weeks, nouveau was
totally broken under that kernel until he came back. At least the
previous kernel worked fine.

On 3/13/24 03:26, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
> bad sector wrote:
>> On 3/12/24 17:06, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-10 17:50, bad sector wrote:
>>>> On 3/8/24 06:05, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-03-08 05:19, bad sector wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/7/24 16:54, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-03-07 22:15, bad sector wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/7/24 08:09, Malcolm wrote:
>>>
>>>>> If it is an expensive, good, nvidia card, I would try hard and long.
>>>>>
>>>>> In my case, when I had to replace the computer, I changed video
>>>>> brand. The old machine is still using nvidia with nouveau, but
>>>>> experiences locks.
>>>>
>>>> It cost around $200 years ago, good enough technically but if I had
>>>> known the driver hell it woud bring me I would NEVER have bought it,
>>>> the AMD should be here this week
>>>
>>> AMD could be hell ages ago; I don't remember the details, but they
>>> stopped supporting certain range of cards, and the Linux own support
>>> was primitive. Then one day AMD decided to do something in the line
>>> of opening up their drivers or specs or both (again, I don't remember
>>> the details). The thing is, that now their cards work very well out
>>> of the box. The situation should be similar to Intel graphics, but
>>> Intel neglects to solve bugs. I have a light machine and two laptops
>>> with Intel graphics, and all have one problem or another.
>>
>> Similar story, in another life the 'other' (radion) cards had huge
>> Linux driver problems and that's why i went to nvidia; looks like it's
>> gone full circle  ..or at least a 180 :-)
>
> The last time I went for nVidia was in 2008, and even then it was
> because I'd forgotten to check what graphics the PC I was buying had.
> Can't complain though, that machine worked (mostly) with nouveau until
> it ceased working altogether.
> The (mostly) was when the openSuse maintainer released a broken patch
> for the kernel just before going on holiday for a few weeks, nouveau was
> totally broken under that kernel until he came back.  At least the
> previous kernel worked fine.

That kind of problem is managable by backing up with dd so that there
are always two generations of copies of 'working' partitions. My issue
with nvidia has been the interminably difficult downloads, speeds slower
than a dead dog os fully stopped, and lastly that the card wasn't
working at all with kernel 6.7 regardless of driver used (nouveau gave
me a low resolution desktop 1024 at best) so I asked myself what the
hell am I going to do when 6.7 is the oldest kernel around? I'm no guru
who can wiggle his way out of any predicament, so had I known that the
once bitchy radion had become a socially reconfigured AMD card I would
swapped out the nvidia a LOOOOOONG time ago!