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Re: Nailed ...Re: ¡ × ⁋ ^ º ¦ in filenames

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 by: Carlos E.R. - Tue, 18 Jul 2023 18:17 UTC

On 2023-07-18 14:56, bad sector wrote:
> On 7/18/23 05:49, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2023-07-18 01:22, bad sector wrote:
>>> On 7/17/23 19:15, bad sector wrote:
>>>> On 7/17/23 09:01, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Bingo...
>>>>
>>>> ~/.config/plasma-localerc
>>>>
>>>> [Formats]
>>>> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
>>>> LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8
>>>> LC_TIME=Default.UTF-8
>>>> useDetailed=true
>>>>
>>>> [Translations]
>>>> LANGUAGE=
>>>>
>>>> re-edited, problem (seems to be) solved in TW
>>>>
>>>> DON'T ask me where that came from, looks like a script generated file
>>>
>>> still get error though:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ~ locale
>>> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
>>> LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
>>> LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8
>>> LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8      <<<<<<<
>>> LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8
>>> LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8
>>> LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
>>> LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8
>>> LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8
>>> LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8
>>> LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8
>>> LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8
>>> LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8
>>> LC_ALL=
>>>
>>>
>>> ~ gimp "A#º_0305.png"
>>> libpng warning: iCCP: CRC error
>>> ** (file-png:5963): WARNING **: 19:19:28.649: Unsupported date format
>>> gimp: (null)-WARNING: Unsupported date format
>>
>> Yes, but that may come from the actual date format used, not the
>> locale string.
>>
>> Not sure what command to use to get the time printed in the locale.
>> Try "date" without options.
>>
>> cer@Telcontar:~> date
>> 2023-07-18T11:47:43 CEST
>> cer@Telcontar:~> locale | grep -i time
>> LC_TIME=en_DK.UTF-8
>> cer@Telcontar:~>
>>
>> which is correct. I seem to recall seeing the date in USA format
>> before. Ah, "ls" uses the usa format.
>
> ~ # date

That's not you. That's Mr Root.

> Tue 18 Jul 2023 07:28:03 AM EDT
> ~ # locale | grep -i time
> LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
>
> I don't see what could/should be un-supported by way of any 'known' date
> format, is there a date 'inside' the png file maybe?

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 by: Carlos E.R. - Tue, 18 Jul 2023 18:19 UTC

On 2023-07-18 18:47, bad sector wrote:
> On 7/18/23 05:45, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2023-07-18 01:15, bad sector wrote:
>>> On 7/17/23 09:01, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mine tries first the file "/usr/lib/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_TIME"
>>>> which does not exist. Then it tries
>>>> "/usr/lib/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_TIME", which in mine does exist.
>>>>
>>>> But yours is trying instead
>>>>
>>>> /usr/lib/locale/Default.UTF-8/LC_TIME
>>>> /usr/lib/locale/Default.utf8/LC_TIME
>>>> /usr/lib/locale/Default/LC_TIME
>>>>
>>>> which do not exist. Why is it trying those?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When I asked you for your locale, you pasted this:
>>>>
>>>> Leap-15.5
>>>> ~ locale
>>>> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
>>>> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
>>>> LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
>>>> LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>> LC_TIME=Default.UTF-8   <=========
>>>> LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>> LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>> LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>> LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>> LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>> LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>> LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>> LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>> LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>> LC_ALL=
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's the origin of your problem. Why do you have that?
>>>> Find that out, and change it to a proper one, and you should be Ok.
>>>
>>> Also tried setting it in Yast to "en_US.UTF-8"
>>>
>>> On login I still get that Default.UTF-8
>>>
>>> did a content search on "Default.UTF-8"
>>>
>>> Bingo...
>>>
>>> ~/.config/plasma-localerc
>>
>> Aha. I thought so.
>
> In Artix, also with KDE :-) the file is only
>
> ==================
> [Formats]
> LANG=en_CA.UTF-8
> ==================
>
>
> The above must have come from clicking Pangnirtung as a place just to
> throw too long noses off a bit

Ar you using the same home folder in openSUSE? Because openSUSE doesn't
have "en_CA.UTF-8".

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 by: bad sector - Tue, 18 Jul 2023 21:34 UTC

On 7/18/23 14:19, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2023-07-18 18:47, bad sector wrote:
>> On 7/18/23 05:45, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2023-07-18 01:15, bad sector wrote:
>>>> On 7/17/23 09:01, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mine tries first the file "/usr/lib/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_TIME"
>>>>> which does not exist. Then it tries
>>>>> "/usr/lib/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_TIME", which in mine does exist.
>>>>>
>>>>> But yours is trying instead
>>>>>
>>>>> /usr/lib/locale/Default.UTF-8/LC_TIME
>>>>> /usr/lib/locale/Default.utf8/LC_TIME
>>>>> /usr/lib/locale/Default/LC_TIME
>>>>>
>>>>> which do not exist. Why is it trying those?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When I asked you for your locale, you pasted this:
>>>>>
>>>>> Leap-15.5
>>>>> ~ locale
>>>>> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
>>>>> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
>>>>> LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
>>>>> LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>> LC_TIME=Default.UTF-8   <=========
>>>>> LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>> LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>> LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>> LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>> LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>> LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>> LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>> LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>> LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>> LC_ALL=
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's the origin of your problem. Why do you have that?
>>>>> Find that out, and change it to a proper one, and you should be Ok.
>>>>
>>>> Also tried setting it in Yast to "en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>
>>>> On login I still get that Default.UTF-8
>>>>
>>>> did a content search on "Default.UTF-8"
>>>>
>>>> Bingo...
>>>>
>>>> ~/.config/plasma-localerc
>>>
>>> Aha. I thought so.
>>
>> In Artix, also with KDE :-) the file is only
>>
>> ==================
>> [Formats]
>> LANG=en_CA.UTF-8
>> ==================
>>
>>
>> The above must have come from clicking Pangnirtung as a place just to
>> throw too long noses off a bit
>
> Ar you using the same home folder in openSUSE? Because openSUSE doesn't
> have "en_CA.UTF-8".

No, /home/userMe in each OS is a link to a remote folder but for now a
different one for each OS. Eventually they should all be the same one
but I will probably not see that in my lifetime. Along the trajectory to
that unreachable star, in each of these remote folders that userMe in
different OS'es links to is a link to (this time) a common remote folder
that includes folders like backgrounds, icons, and other chickenshit.
THESE are all shared by all the OS'es and the common icons in these (3
out of 7 or more) deskbars are an example of their use:

https://i.imgur.com/fShcw31.png
https://i.imgur.com/jRrwvDs.png
https://i.imgur.com/CD8JYjm.png

There are several such folders with different roles, another remote
folder contains some *rc files to which links exist in those OS'es that
share well, not others (yet). ".sylpheed-2" is one of only a dozen or so
that links into every single OS without any issues whatsoever, .gftp and
..profile are typical experimental ones in a very dynamic environment
that I tinker with and proudly screw up every day but
/.config/plasma-localerc is not such although a common
..everything^%$%#&*$kdeinoneplace would be a real nice addition :-)

https://i.imgur.com/R9cXaXa.png

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 by: bad sector - Tue, 18 Jul 2023 21:39 UTC

On 7/18/23 14:17, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2023-07-18 14:56, bad sector wrote:
>> On 7/18/23 05:49, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2023-07-18 01:22, bad sector wrote:
>>>> On 7/17/23 19:15, bad sector wrote:
>>>>> On 7/17/23 09:01, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Bingo...
>>>>>
>>>>> ~/.config/plasma-localerc
>>>>>
>>>>> [Formats]
>>>>> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
>>>>> LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8
>>>>> LC_TIME=Default.UTF-8
>>>>> useDetailed=true
>>>>>
>>>>> [Translations]
>>>>> LANGUAGE=
>>>>>
>>>>> re-edited, problem (seems to be) solved in TW
>>>>>
>>>>> DON'T ask me where that came from, looks like a script generated file
>>>>
>>>> still get error though:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ~ locale
>>>> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
>>>> LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
>>>> LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8
>>>> LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8      <<<<<<<
>>>> LC_COLLATE=en_US.UTF-8
>>>> LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8
>>>> LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
>>>> LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8
>>>> LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8
>>>> LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8
>>>> LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8
>>>> LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8
>>>> LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8
>>>> LC_ALL=
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ~ gimp "A#º_0305.png"
>>>> libpng warning: iCCP: CRC error
>>>> ** (file-png:5963): WARNING **: 19:19:28.649: Unsupported date format
>>>> gimp: (null)-WARNING: Unsupported date format
>>>
>>> Yes, but that may come from the actual date format used, not the
>>> locale string.
>>>
>>> Not sure what command to use to get the time printed in the locale.
>>> Try "date" without options.
>>>
>>> cer@Telcontar:~> date
>>> 2023-07-18T11:47:43 CEST
>>> cer@Telcontar:~> locale | grep -i time
>>> LC_TIME=en_DK.UTF-8
>>> cer@Telcontar:~>
>>>
>>> which is correct. I seem to recall seeing the date in USA format
>>> before. Ah, "ls" uses the usa format.
>>
>> ~ # date
>
> That's not you. That's Mr Root.

I like the # prompt, use gold on black for me, red for the super U
(NB the red file cabinet in some of the deskbars in other answer). I
also like to use alarmingly 'criard' colors for windows operated as
root, has saved my hide many a time! FM as root is by far one of the
neatest Suse features BTW.

>> Tue 18 Jul 2023 07:28:03 AM EDT
>> ~ # locale | grep -i time
>> LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
>>
>> I don't see what could/should be un-supported by way of any 'known'
>> date format, is there a date 'inside' the png file maybe?
>
>

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On 2023-07-18 23:34, bad sector wrote:
> On 7/18/23 14:19, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2023-07-18 18:47, bad sector wrote:
>>> On 7/18/23 05:45, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2023-07-18 01:15, bad sector wrote:
>>>>> On 7/17/23 09:01, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mine tries first the file "/usr/lib/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_TIME"
>>>>>> which does not exist. Then it tries
>>>>>> "/usr/lib/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_TIME", which in mine does exist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But yours is trying instead
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /usr/lib/locale/Default.UTF-8/LC_TIME
>>>>>> /usr/lib/locale/Default.utf8/LC_TIME
>>>>>> /usr/lib/locale/Default/LC_TIME
>>>>>>
>>>>>> which do not exist. Why is it trying those?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I asked you for your locale, you pasted this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Leap-15.5
>>>>>> ~ locale
>>>>>> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or
>>>>>> directory
>>>>>> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
>>>>>> LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
>>>>>> LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>> LC_TIME=Default.UTF-8   <=========
>>>>>> LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>> LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>> LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>> LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>> LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>> LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>> LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>> LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>> LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>> LC_ALL=
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's the origin of your problem. Why do you have that?
>>>>>> Find that out, and change it to a proper one, and you should be Ok.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also tried setting it in Yast to "en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>
>>>>> On login I still get that Default.UTF-8
>>>>>
>>>>> did a content search on "Default.UTF-8"
>>>>>
>>>>> Bingo...
>>>>>
>>>>> ~/.config/plasma-localerc
>>>>
>>>> Aha. I thought so.
>>>
>>> In Artix, also with KDE :-) the file is only
>>>
>>> ==================
>>> [Formats]
>>> LANG=en_CA.UTF-8
>>> ==================
>>>
>>>
>>> The above must have come from clicking Pangnirtung as a place just to
>>> throw too long noses off a bit
>>
>> Ar you using the same home folder in openSUSE? Because openSUSE
>> doesn't have "en_CA.UTF-8".

I see "/usr/share/locale/en_CA", and en_GB and en_US and others, just no
utf8 variants. Seems to be about the messages only.

I also see

/usr/lib/locale/en_CA
/usr/lib/locale/en_CA.utf8

just not "en_CA.UTF-8", which could thus just fail.

>
>
> No, /home/userMe in each OS is a link to a remote folder but for now a
> different one for each OS. Eventually they should all be the same one
> but I will probably not see that in my lifetime. Along the trajectory to
> that unreachable star, in each of these remote folders that userMe in
> different OS'es links to is a link to (this time) a common remote folder
> that includes folders like backgrounds, icons, and other chickenshit.
> THESE are all shared by all the OS'es and the common icons in these (3
> out of 7 or more) deskbars are an example of their use:
>
> https://i.imgur.com/fShcw31.png
> https://i.imgur.com/jRrwvDs.png
> https://i.imgur.com/CD8JYjm.png
>
> There are several such folders with different roles, another remote
> folder contains some *rc files to which links exist in those OS'es that
> share well, not others (yet). ".sylpheed-2" is one of only a dozen or so
> that links into every single OS without any issues whatsoever, .gftp and
> .profile are typical experimental ones in a very dynamic environment
> that I tinker with and proudly screw up every day but
> /.config/plasma-localerc is not such although a common
> .everything^%$%#&*$kdeinoneplace would be a real nice addition :-)

Ok :-)

>
>
> https://i.imgur.com/R9cXaXa.png
>
>

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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 by: bad sector - Wed, 19 Jul 2023 11:14 UTC

On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 12:17:17 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 2023-07-18 23:34, bad sector wrote:
>> On 7/18/23 14:19, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2023-07-18 18:47, bad sector wrote:
>>>> On 7/18/23 05:45, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-07-18 01:15, bad sector wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/17/23 09:01, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mine tries first the file "/usr/lib/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_TIME"
>>>>>>> which does not exist. Then it tries
>>>>>>> "/usr/lib/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_TIME", which in mine does exist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But yours is trying instead
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /usr/lib/locale/Default.UTF-8/LC_TIME
>>>>>>> /usr/lib/locale/Default.utf8/LC_TIME
>>>>>>> /usr/lib/locale/Default/LC_TIME
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> which do not exist. Why is it trying those?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I asked you for your locale, you pasted this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leap-15.5 ~ locale locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No
>>>>>>> such file or directory LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
>>>>>>> LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>>> LC_TIME=Default.UTF-8   <=========
>>>>>>> LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>>> LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>>> LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>>> LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>>> LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>>> LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>>> LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>>> LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>>> LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>>> LC_ALL=
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's the origin of your problem. Why do you have that?
>>>>>>> Find that out, and change it to a proper one, and you should be
>>>>>>> Ok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also tried setting it in Yast to "en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On login I still get that Default.UTF-8
>>>>>>
>>>>>> did a content search on "Default.UTF-8"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bingo...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~/.config/plasma-localerc
>>>>>
>>>>> Aha. I thought so.
>>>>
>>>> In Artix, also with KDE :-) the file is only
>>>>
>>>> ==================
>>>> [Formats]
>>>> LANG=en_CA.UTF-8 ==================
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The above must have come from clicking Pangnirtung as a place just to
>>>> throw too long noses off a bit
>>>
>>> Ar you using the same home folder in openSUSE? Because openSUSE
>>> doesn't have "en_CA.UTF-8".
>
> I see "/usr/share/locale/en_CA", and en_GB and en_US and others, just no
> utf8 variants. Seems to be about the messages only.
>
> I also see
>
> /usr/lib/locale/en_CA /usr/lib/locale/en_CA.utf8

today is slackware day but I mounted my Leap partition and it's the same
here

> just not "en_CA.UTF-8", which could thus just fail.

I'm just a passenger on this ship but it seems to me that the entire
locale deal is gettin' a bit too 'lossy', it may be time to clean up the
whorehouse, set some syntax rules and enforce them! When one is TS-ing
and finds an output list of a dozen "en_US.UTF-8" in quotes but one that
says en_US.utf8 and without quotes then one tends to think that that's
where the problem is. Not so, it seems, for 'starters' :-(

>> No, /home/userMe in each OS is a link to a remote folder but for now a
>> different one for each OS. Eventually they should all be the same one
>> but I will probably not see that in my lifetime. Along the trajectory
>> to that unreachable star, in each of these remote folders that userMe
>> in different OS'es links to is a link to (this time) a common remote
>> folder that includes folders like backgrounds, icons, and other
>> chickenshit. THESE are all shared by all the OS'es and the common icons
>> in these (3 out of 7 or more) deskbars are an example of their use:
>>
>> https://i.imgur.com/fShcw31.png https://i.imgur.com/jRrwvDs.png
>> https://i.imgur.com/CD8JYjm.png
>>
>> There are several such folders with different roles, another remote
>> folder contains some *rc files to which links exist in those OS'es that
>> share well, not others (yet). ".sylpheed-2" is one of only a dozen or
>> so that links into every single OS without any issues whatsoever, .gftp
>> and .profile are typical experimental ones in a very dynamic
>> environment that I tinker with and proudly screw up every day but
>> /.config/plasma-localerc is not such although a common
>> .everything^%$%#&*$kdeinoneplace would be a real nice addition :-)
>
> Ok :-)
>
>
>>
>> https://i.imgur.com/R9cXaXa.png
>>
>>

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On 2023-07-19 13:14, bad sector wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 12:17:17 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
>> On 2023-07-18 23:34, bad sector wrote:
>>> On 7/18/23 14:19, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2023-07-18 18:47, bad sector wrote:
>>>>> On 7/18/23 05:45, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>> On 2023-07-18 01:15, bad sector wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/17/23 09:01, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mine tries first the file "/usr/lib/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_TIME"
>>>>>>>> which does not exist. Then it tries
>>>>>>>> "/usr/lib/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_TIME", which in mine does exist.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But yours is trying instead
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /usr/lib/locale/Default.UTF-8/LC_TIME
>>>>>>>> /usr/lib/locale/Default.utf8/LC_TIME
>>>>>>>> /usr/lib/locale/Default/LC_TIME
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> which do not exist. Why is it trying those?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I asked you for your locale, you pasted this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Leap-15.5 ~ locale locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No
>>>>>>>> such file or directory LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
>>>>>>>> LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>>>> LC_TIME=Default.UTF-8   <=========
>>>>>>>> LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>>>> LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>>>> LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>>>> LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>>>> LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>>>> LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>>>> LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>>>> LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>>>> LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>>>> LC_ALL=
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's the origin of your problem. Why do you have that?
>>>>>>>> Find that out, and change it to a proper one, and you should be
>>>>>>>> Ok.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also tried setting it in Yast to "en_US.UTF-8"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On login I still get that Default.UTF-8
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> did a content search on "Default.UTF-8"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bingo...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~/.config/plasma-localerc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aha. I thought so.
>>>>>
>>>>> In Artix, also with KDE :-) the file is only
>>>>>
>>>>> ==================
>>>>> [Formats]
>>>>> LANG=en_CA.UTF-8 ==================
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The above must have come from clicking Pangnirtung as a place just to
>>>>> throw too long noses off a bit
>>>>
>>>> Ar you using the same home folder in openSUSE? Because openSUSE
>>>> doesn't have "en_CA.UTF-8".
>>
>> I see "/usr/share/locale/en_CA", and en_GB and en_US and others, just no
>> utf8 variants. Seems to be about the messages only.
>>
>> I also see
>>
>> /usr/lib/locale/en_CA /usr/lib/locale/en_CA.utf8
>
> today is slackware day but I mounted my Leap partition and it's the same
> here
>
>
>
>> just not "en_CA.UTF-8", which could thus just fail.
>
>
> I'm just a passenger on this ship but it seems to me that the entire
> locale deal is gettin' a bit too 'lossy', it may be time to clean up the
> whorehouse, set some syntax rules and enforce them! When one is TS-ing
> and finds an output list of a dozen "en_US.UTF-8" in quotes but one that
> says en_US.utf8 and without quotes then one tends to think that that's
> where the problem is. Not so, it seems, for 'starters' :-(

It get worse. Plasma has its own locale system, different than the rest
of the system. You can choose a locale in settings that has no
corresponding "locale" tree in the system. Maybe it works in native KDE
tools, but not in others.

And Gnome uses a different method. I believe that the file .i18n works.

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Cheers, Carlos.

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