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On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 5:15:27 AM UTC+1, olcott wrote:
> If you see an animal and test its DNA and confirm that it is definitely
> a cat, what happens when the cat barks?
>
> When we examine the behavior of the Peter Linz Ĥ applied to its own
> Turing machine description: ⟨Ĥ⟩ and simply assume that the embedded halt
> decider at its internal state of Ĥ.qx is a UTM then we find that this
> machine has infinitely nested simulation.
>
> SELF-EVIDENT-TRUTH
> Every computation that never halts unless its simulation is aborted is a
> computation that never halts.
>
> SELF-EVIDENT-TRUTH
> The <Ĥ> <Ĥ> input to the embedded halt decider at Ĥ.qx is a computation
> that never halts unless its simulation is aborted.
>
> ∴ IMPOSSIBLY FALSE CONCLUSION
> The embedded simulating halt decider at Ĥ.qx correctly decides its
> input: <Ĥ> <Ĥ> is a computation that never halts.
>
> The above three elements essentially provide the DNA of the cat.
>
>
> Halting problem undecidability and infinitely nested simulation
>
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/351947980_Halting_problem_undecidability_and_infinitely_nested_simulation
>
>
>
> --
> Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott
>
> "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre
> minds." Einstein
Cats & dogs can growl of course. Theres generally a behaviourist in computer AI, likely not only because that most animals couldn't speak for themselves in a common language. There are senders & recievers, an animal sends messages to a recipent who will decide on what contingency level for decoding the message is meant .

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On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 8:03:32 PM UTC+1, esa 4me wrote:
> On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 5:15:27 AM UTC+1, olcott wrote:
> > If you see an animal and test its DNA and confirm that it is definitely
> > a cat, what happens when the cat barks?
> >
> > When we examine the behavior of the Peter Linz Ĥ applied to its own
> > Turing machine description: ⟨Ĥ⟩ and simply assume that the embedded halt
> > decider at its internal state of Ĥ.qx is a UTM then we find that this
> > machine has infinitely nested simulation.
> >
> > SELF-EVIDENT-TRUTH
> > Every computation that never halts unless its simulation is aborted is a
> > computation that never halts.
> >
> > SELF-EVIDENT-TRUTH
> > The <Ĥ> <Ĥ> input to the embedded halt decider at Ĥ.qx is a computation
> > that never halts unless its simulation is aborted.
> >
> > ∴ IMPOSSIBLY FALSE CONCLUSION
> > The embedded simulating halt decider at Ĥ.qx correctly decides its
> > input: <Ĥ> <Ĥ> is a computation that never halts.
> >
> > The above three elements essentially provide the DNA of the cat.
> >
> >
> > Halting problem undecidability and infinitely nested simulation
> >
> > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/351947980_Halting_problem_undecidability_and_infinitely_nested_simulation
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott
> >
> > "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre
> > minds." Einstein
> Cats & dogs can growl of course. Theres generally a behaviourist in computer AI, likely not only because that most animals couldn't speak for themselves in a common language. There are senders & recievers, an animal sends messages to a recipent who will decide on what contingency level for decoding the message is meant .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_disbelief

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 by: Don Stockbauer - Thu, 1 Jul 2021 15:05 UTC

On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 2:33:07 PM UTC-5, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 8:03:32 PM UTC+1, esa 4me wrote:
> > On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 5:15:27 AM UTC+1, olcott wrote:
> > > If you see an animal and test its DNA and confirm that it is definitely
> > > a cat, what happens when the cat barks?
> > >
> > > When we examine the behavior of the Peter Linz Ĥ applied to its own
> > > Turing machine description: ⟨Ĥ⟩ and simply assume that the embedded halt
> > > decider at its internal state of Ĥ.qx is a UTM then we find that this
> > > machine has infinitely nested simulation.
> > >
> > > SELF-EVIDENT-TRUTH
> > > Every computation that never halts unless its simulation is aborted is a
> > > computation that never halts.
> > >
> > > SELF-EVIDENT-TRUTH
> > > The <Ĥ> <Ĥ> input to the embedded halt decider at Ĥ.qx is a computation
> > > that never halts unless its simulation is aborted.
> > >
> > > ∴ IMPOSSIBLY FALSE CONCLUSION
> > > The embedded simulating halt decider at Ĥ.qx correctly decides its
> > > input: <Ĥ> <Ĥ> is a computation that never halts.
> > >
> > > The above three elements essentially provide the DNA of the cat.
> > >
> > >
> > > Halting problem undecidability and infinitely nested simulation
> > >
> > > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/351947980_Halting_problem_undecidability_and_infinitely_nested_simulation
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott
> > >
> > > "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre
> > > minds." Einstein
> > Cats & dogs can growl of course. Theres generally a behaviourist in computer AI, likely not only because that most animals couldn't speak for themselves in a common language. There are senders & recievers, an animal sends messages to a recipent who will decide on what contingency level for decoding the message is meant .
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_disbelief

Thank you, job search I always wanted to know what suspension of disbelief is.

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 by: esa 4me - Sun, 4 Jul 2021 17:48 UTC

On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 4:05:51 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 2:33:07 PM UTC-5, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 8:03:32 PM UTC+1, esa 4me wrote:
> > > On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 5:15:27 AM UTC+1, olcott wrote:
> > > > If you see an animal and test its DNA and confirm that it is definitely
> > > > a cat, what happens when the cat barks?
> > > >
> > > > When we examine the behavior of the Peter Linz Ĥ applied to its own
> > > > Turing machine description: ⟨Ĥ⟩ and simply assume that the embedded halt
> > > > decider at its internal state of Ĥ.qx is a UTM then we find that this
> > > > machine has infinitely nested simulation.
> > > >
> > > > SELF-EVIDENT-TRUTH
> > > > Every computation that never halts unless its simulation is aborted is a
> > > > computation that never halts.
> > > >
> > > > SELF-EVIDENT-TRUTH
> > > > The <Ĥ> <Ĥ> input to the embedded halt decider at Ĥ.qx is a computation
> > > > that never halts unless its simulation is aborted.
> > > >
> > > > ∴ IMPOSSIBLY FALSE CONCLUSION
> > > > The embedded simulating halt decider at Ĥ.qx correctly decides its
> > > > input: <Ĥ> <Ĥ> is a computation that never halts.
> > > >
> > > > The above three elements essentially provide the DNA of the cat.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Halting problem undecidability and infinitely nested simulation
> > > >
> > > > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/351947980_Halting_problem_undecidability_and_infinitely_nested_simulation
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott
> > > >
> > > > "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre
> > > > minds." Einstein
> > > Cats & dogs can growl of course. Theres generally a behaviourist in computer AI, likely not only because that most animals couldn't speak for themselves in a common language. There are senders & recievers, an animal sends messages to a recipent who will decide on what contingency level for decoding the message is meant .
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_disbelief
> Thank you, job search I always wanted to know what suspension of disbelief is.
Happy Independence Day Don & to others

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On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 6:48:39 PM UTC+1, esa 4me wrote:
> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 4:05:51 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 2:33:07 PM UTC-5, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 8:03:32 PM UTC+1, esa 4me wrote:
> > > > On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 5:15:27 AM UTC+1, olcott wrote:
> > > > > If you see an animal and test its DNA and confirm that it is definitely
> > > > > a cat, what happens when the cat barks?
> > > > >
> > > > > When we examine the behavior of the Peter Linz Ĥ applied to its own
> > > > > Turing machine description: ⟨Ĥ⟩ and simply assume that the embedded halt
> > > > > decider at its internal state of Ĥ.qx is a UTM then we find that this
> > > > > machine has infinitely nested simulation.
> > > > >
> > > > > SELF-EVIDENT-TRUTH
> > > > > Every computation that never halts unless its simulation is aborted is a
> > > > > computation that never halts.
> > > > >
> > > > > SELF-EVIDENT-TRUTH
> > > > > The <Ĥ> <Ĥ> input to the embedded halt decider at Ĥ.qx is a computation
> > > > > that never halts unless its simulation is aborted.
> > > > >
> > > > > ∴ IMPOSSIBLY FALSE CONCLUSION
> > > > > The embedded simulating halt decider at Ĥ.qx correctly decides its
> > > > > input: <Ĥ> <Ĥ> is a computation that never halts.
> > > > >
> > > > > The above three elements essentially provide the DNA of the cat.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Halting problem undecidability and infinitely nested simulation
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/351947980_Halting_problem_undecidability_and_infinitely_nested_simulation
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott
> > > > >
> > > > > "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre
> > > > > minds." Einstein
> > > > Cats & dogs can growl of course. Theres generally a behaviourist in computer AI, likely not only because that most animals couldn't speak for themselves in a common language. There are senders & recievers, an animal sends messages to a recipent who will decide on what contingency level for decoding the message is meant .
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_disbelief
> > Thank you, job search I always wanted to know what suspension of disbelief is.
> Happy Independence Day Don & to others
Did you manage to get your wire fencing around your land, (Area 53 wasn't in it !)

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On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 1:21:49 PM UTC-5, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 6:48:39 PM UTC+1, esa 4me wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 4:05:51 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 2:33:07 PM UTC-5, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 8:03:32 PM UTC+1, esa 4me wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 5:15:27 AM UTC+1, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > If you see an animal and test its DNA and confirm that it is definitely
> > > > > > a cat, what happens when the cat barks?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When we examine the behavior of the Peter Linz Ĥ applied to its own
> > > > > > Turing machine description: ⟨Ĥ⟩ and simply assume that the embedded halt
> > > > > > decider at its internal state of Ĥ.qx is a UTM then we find that this
> > > > > > machine has infinitely nested simulation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SELF-EVIDENT-TRUTH
> > > > > > Every computation that never halts unless its simulation is aborted is a
> > > > > > computation that never halts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SELF-EVIDENT-TRUTH
> > > > > > The <Ĥ> <Ĥ> input to the embedded halt decider at Ĥ.qx is a computation
> > > > > > that never halts unless its simulation is aborted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ∴ IMPOSSIBLY FALSE CONCLUSION
> > > > > > The embedded simulating halt decider at Ĥ.qx correctly decides its
> > > > > > input: <Ĥ> <Ĥ> is a computation that never halts.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The above three elements essentially provide the DNA of the cat..
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Halting problem undecidability and infinitely nested simulation
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/351947980_Halting_problem_undecidability_and_infinitely_nested_simulation
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre
> > > > > > minds." Einstein
> > > > > Cats & dogs can growl of course. Theres generally a behaviourist in computer AI, likely not only because that most animals couldn't speak for themselves in a common language. There are senders & recievers, an animal sends messages to a recipent who will decide on what contingency level for decoding the message is meant .
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_disbelief
> > > Thank you, job search I always wanted to know what suspension of disbelief is.
> > Happy Independence Day Don & to others
> Did you manage to get your wire fencing around your land, (Area 53 wasn't in it !)

I didn't give it a name like area 53 , all it is is 1 acre of land in back of the house . I did get it finished finally , now the dogs are prisoners but that's better than them running up to the highway and getting run over. I like building Electric fences.
One of the dogs named Max the dog pound told me is a Australian cattle dog , but Google tells me it's a dingo, The wild dog of Australia.

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On Monday, July 5, 2021 at 12:41:49 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 1:21:49 PM UTC-5, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 6:48:39 PM UTC+1, esa 4me wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 4:05:51 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 2:33:07 PM UTC-5, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 8:03:32 PM UTC+1, esa 4me wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 5:15:27 AM UTC+1, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > If you see an animal and test its DNA and confirm that it is definitely
> > > > > > > a cat, what happens when the cat barks?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When we examine the behavior of the Peter Linz Ĥ applied to its own
> > > > > > > Turing machine description: ⟨Ĥ⟩ and simply assume that the embedded halt
> > > > > > > decider at its internal state of Ĥ.qx is a UTM then we find that this
> > > > > > > machine has infinitely nested simulation.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > SELF-EVIDENT-TRUTH
> > > > > > > Every computation that never halts unless its simulation is aborted is a
> > > > > > > computation that never halts.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > SELF-EVIDENT-TRUTH
> > > > > > > The <Ĥ> <Ĥ> input to the embedded halt decider at Ĥ.qx is a computation
> > > > > > > that never halts unless its simulation is aborted.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ∴ IMPOSSIBLY FALSE CONCLUSION
> > > > > > > The embedded simulating halt decider at Ĥ.qx correctly decides its
> > > > > > > input: <Ĥ> <Ĥ> is a computation that never halts.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The above three elements essentially provide the DNA of the cat.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Halting problem undecidability and infinitely nested simulation
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/351947980_Halting_problem_undecidability_and_infinitely_nested_simulation
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre
> > > > > > > minds." Einstein
> > > > > > Cats & dogs can growl of course. Theres generally a behaviourist in computer AI, likely not only because that most animals couldn't speak for themselves in a common language. There are senders & recievers, an animal sends messages to a recipent who will decide on what contingency level for decoding the message is meant .
> > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_disbelief
> > > > Thank you, job search I always wanted to know what suspension of disbelief is.
> > > Happy Independence Day Don & to others
> > Did you manage to get your wire fencing around your land, (Area 53 wasn't in it !)
> I didn't give it a name like area 53 , all it is is 1 acre of land in back of the house . I did get it finished finally , now the dogs are prisoners but that's better than them running up to the highway and getting run over.. I like building Electric fences.
> One of the dogs named Max the dog pound told me is a Australian cattle dog , but Google tells me it's a dingo, The wild dog of Australia.

I was going to joke & say you have the most interesting piece of land of an enormous area as large as area 53

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On Monday, July 5, 2021 at 12:41:49 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 1:21:49 PM UTC-5, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 6:48:39 PM UTC+1, esa 4me wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 4:05:51 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 2:33:07 PM UTC-5, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 8:03:32 PM UTC+1, esa 4me wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 5:15:27 AM UTC+1, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > If you see an animal and test its DNA and confirm that it is definitely
> > > > > > > a cat, what happens when the cat barks?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When we examine the behavior of the Peter Linz Ĥ applied to its own
> > > > > > > Turing machine description: ⟨Ĥ⟩ and simply assume that the embedded halt
> > > > > > > decider at its internal state of Ĥ.qx is a UTM then we find that this
> > > > > > > machine has infinitely nested simulation.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > SELF-EVIDENT-TRUTH
> > > > > > > Every computation that never halts unless its simulation is aborted is a
> > > > > > > computation that never halts.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > SELF-EVIDENT-TRUTH
> > > > > > > The <Ĥ> <Ĥ> input to the embedded halt decider at Ĥ.qx is a computation
> > > > > > > that never halts unless its simulation is aborted.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ∴ IMPOSSIBLY FALSE CONCLUSION
> > > > > > > The embedded simulating halt decider at Ĥ.qx correctly decides its
> > > > > > > input: <Ĥ> <Ĥ> is a computation that never halts.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The above three elements essentially provide the DNA of the cat.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Halting problem undecidability and infinitely nested simulation
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/351947980_Halting_problem_undecidability_and_infinitely_nested_simulation
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre
> > > > > > > minds." Einstein
> > > > > > Cats & dogs can growl of course. Theres generally a behaviourist in computer AI, likely not only because that most animals couldn't speak for themselves in a common language. There are senders & recievers, an animal sends messages to a recipent who will decide on what contingency level for decoding the message is meant .
> > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_disbelief
> > > > Thank you, job search I always wanted to know what suspension of disbelief is.
> > > Happy Independence Day Don & to others
> > Did you manage to get your wire fencing around your land, (Area 53 wasn't in it !)
> I didn't give it a name like area 53 , all it is is 1 acre of land in back of the house . I did get it finished finally , now the dogs are prisoners but that's better than them running up to the highway and getting run over.. I like building Electric fences.
> One of the dogs named Max the dog pound told me is a Australian cattle dog , but Google tells me it's a dingo, The wild dog of Australia.

Your dogs are dogs not cats, you are quite clear on that subject.

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Cannes Film Festival is showing a film called simply 'cow', it seems to be growing in steady popularity, were any of your cows famous Don ?

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> Cannes Film Festival is showing a film called simply 'cow', it seems to be growing in steady popularity, were any of your cows famous Don ?

Is area 53 pretty close to area 51? it only has area 52 between area 51 snd area 53?

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On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 10:54:51 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 3:13:17 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > Cannes Film Festival is showing a film called simply 'cow', it seems to be growing in steady popularity, were any of your cows famous Don ?
> Is area 53 pretty close to area 51? it only has area 52 between area 51 snd area 53?
is their name sinisterly connected to the temperature in their zones? If Eve did not offer an apple to Adam would she still be male?

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On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 3:21:07 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 10:54:51 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 3:13:17 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > Cannes Film Festival is showing a film called simply 'cow', it seems to be growing in steady popularity, were any of your cows famous Don ?
> > Is area 53 pretty close to area 51? it only has area 52 between area 51 snd area 53?
> is their name sinisterly connected to the temperature in their zones? If Eve did not offer an apple to Adam would she still be male?

Your comments are too logical to comment on.

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On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 1:12:10 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 3:21:07 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 10:54:51 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 3:13:17 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > Cannes Film Festival is showing a film called simply 'cow', it seems to be growing in steady popularity, were any of your cows famous Don ?
> > > Is area 53 pretty close to area 51? it only has area 52 between area 51 snd area 53?
> > is their name sinisterly connected to the temperature in their zones? If Eve did not offer an apple to Adam would she still be male?
> Your comments are too logical to comment on.
and everyone can understand that the Turing debate is no better solved when computers become sophisticated
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57761873

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 by: Don Stockbauer - Mon, 12 Jul 2021 15:51 UTC

On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 8:02:46 AM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 1:12:10 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 3:21:07 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 10:54:51 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 3:13:17 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > > Cannes Film Festival is showing a film called simply 'cow', it seems to be growing in steady popularity, were any of your cows famous Don ?
> > > > Is area 53 pretty close to area 51? it only has area 52 between area 51 snd area 53?
> > > is their name sinisterly connected to the temperature in their zones? If Eve did not offer an apple to Adam would she still be male?
> > Your comments are too logical to comment on.
> and everyone can understand that the Turing debate is no better solved when computers become sophisticated
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57761873
well this voice imitation thing is just one more way to screw people the way I see it.

Boy that voice cloning just another way the Internet has become chaos.
temperatures of area 51 and 53 are connected to the numbers 51 and 53 but I'm not sure if it's Fahrenheit or centigrade.
you ask would Eve still be male which assumes that she was male , does it have something to do with these males they try to become females and they have male genitalia still but they take bunches of female hormone so that their upper parts look like a female and I don't mean an ugly female , these women are drop dead gorgeous .
Happy Independence Day to you too .
do I have any famous cows yes I do one of them was president before Biden
you are correct , dogs are not cats , the same as squirrels are not porcupines and the Andromeda galaxy is not a gopher . funny how that works.

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On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:51:57 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 8:02:46 AM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 1:12:10 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 3:21:07 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 10:54:51 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 3:13:17 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > > > Cannes Film Festival is showing a film called simply 'cow', it seems to be growing in steady popularity, were any of your cows famous Don ?
> > > > > Is area 53 pretty close to area 51? it only has area 52 between area 51 snd area 53?
> > > > is their name sinisterly connected to the temperature in their zones? If Eve did not offer an apple to Adam would she still be male?
> > > Your comments are too logical to comment on.
> > and everyone can understand that the Turing debate is no better solved when computers become sophisticated
> > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57761873
> well this voice imitation thing is just one more way to screw people the way I see it.
>
> Boy that voice cloning just another way the Internet has become chaos.
> temperatures of area 51 and 53 are connected to the numbers 51 and 53 but I'm not sure if it's Fahrenheit or centigrade.
> you ask would Eve still be male which assumes that she was male , does it have something to do with these males they try to become females and they have male genitalia still but they take bunches of female hormone so that their upper parts look like a female and I don't mean an ugly female , these women are drop dead gorgeous .
> Happy Independence Day to you too .
> do I have any famous cows yes I do one of them was president before Biden
> you are correct , dogs are not cats , the same as squirrels are not porcupines and the Andromeda galaxy is not a gopher . funny how that works.
lol

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 by: Don Stockbauer - Tue, 13 Jul 2021 16:22 UTC

On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 2:59:29 PM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:51:57 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 8:02:46 AM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 1:12:10 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 3:21:07 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 10:54:51 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 3:13:17 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > > > > Cannes Film Festival is showing a film called simply 'cow', it seems to be growing in steady popularity, were any of your cows famous Don ?
> > > > > > Is area 53 pretty close to area 51? it only has area 52 between area 51 snd area 53?
> > > > > is their name sinisterly connected to the temperature in their zones? If Eve did not offer an apple to Adam would she still be male?
> > > > Your comments are too logical to comment on.
> > > and everyone can understand that the Turing debate is no better solved when computers become sophisticated
> > > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57761873
> > well this voice imitation thing is just one more way to screw people the way I see it.
> >
> > Boy that voice cloning just another way the Internet has become chaos.
> > temperatures of area 51 and 53 are connected to the numbers 51 and 53 but I'm not sure if it's Fahrenheit or centigrade.
> > you ask would Eve still be male which assumes that she was male , does it have something to do with these males they try to become females and they have male genitalia still but they take bunches of female hormone so that their upper parts look like a female and I don't mean an ugly female , these women are drop dead gorgeous .
> > Happy Independence Day to you too .
> > do I have any famous cows yes I do one of them was president before Biden
> > you are correct , dogs are not cats , the same as squirrels are not porcupines and the Andromeda galaxy is not a gopher . funny how that works.
> lol

Let's not have just an LOL , I really need some decisive commentary on my post.

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On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 11:22:31 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 2:59:29 PM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:51:57 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 8:02:46 AM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 1:12:10 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 3:21:07 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 10:54:51 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 3:13:17 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy..3396 wrote:
> > > > > > > > Cannes Film Festival is showing a film called simply 'cow', it seems to be growing in steady popularity, were any of your cows famous Don ?
> > > > > > > Is area 53 pretty close to area 51? it only has area 52 between area 51 snd area 53?
> > > > > > is their name sinisterly connected to the temperature in their zones? If Eve did not offer an apple to Adam would she still be male?
> > > > > Your comments are too logical to comment on.
> > > > and everyone can understand that the Turing debate is no better solved when computers become sophisticated
> > > > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57761873
> > > well this voice imitation thing is just one more way to screw people the way I see it.
> > >
> > > Boy that voice cloning just another way the Internet has become chaos..
> > > temperatures of area 51 and 53 are connected to the numbers 51 and 53 but I'm not sure if it's Fahrenheit or centigrade.
> > > you ask would Eve still be male which assumes that she was male , does it have something to do with these males they try to become females and they have male genitalia still but they take bunches of female hormone so that their upper parts look like a female and I don't mean an ugly female , these women are drop dead gorgeous .
> > > Happy Independence Day to you too .
> > > do I have any famous cows yes I do one of them was president before Biden
> > > you are correct , dogs are not cats , the same as squirrels are not porcupines and the Andromeda galaxy is not a gopher . funny how that works.
> > lol
> Let's not have just an LOL , I really need some decisive commentary on my post.

Or maybe not.

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On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 2:40:38 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 11:22:31 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 2:59:29 PM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:51:57 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 8:02:46 AM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 1:12:10 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 3:21:07 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 10:54:51 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 3:13:17 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Cannes Film Festival is showing a film called simply 'cow', it seems to be growing in steady popularity, were any of your cows famous Don ?
> > > > > > > > Is area 53 pretty close to area 51? it only has area 52 between area 51 snd area 53?
> > > > > > > is their name sinisterly connected to the temperature in their zones? If Eve did not offer an apple to Adam would she still be male?
> > > > > > Your comments are too logical to comment on.
> > > > > and everyone can understand that the Turing debate is no better solved when computers become sophisticated
> > > > > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57761873
> > > > well this voice imitation thing is just one more way to screw people the way I see it.
character imitated, some people remember those chat bots set off replying online to one another. "I dislike the tone of your voice while attempting to provoke me to take that apple, whoever you are" had never seemed likely arguement !
> > > >
> > > > Boy that voice cloning just another way the Internet has become chaos.
seems so.
> > > > temperatures of area 51 and 53 are connected to the numbers 51 and 53 but I'm not sure if it's Fahrenheit or centigrade.
> > > > you ask would Eve still be male which assumes that she was male , does it have something to do with these males they try to become females and they have male genitalia still but they take bunches of female hormone so that their upper parts look like a female and I don't mean an ugly female , these women are drop dead gorgeous .
> > > > Happy Independence Day to you too .
> > > > do I have any famous cows yes I do one of them was president before Biden
> > > > you are correct , dogs are not cats , the same as squirrels are not porcupines and the Andromeda galaxy is not a gopher . funny how that works..
> > > lol
> > Let's not have just an LOL , I really need some decisive commentary on my post.
> Or maybe not.

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 by: assumed. identiy.339 - Wed, 14 Jul 2021 18:52 UTC

On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 6:51:05 PM UTC+1, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 2:40:38 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 11:22:31 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 2:59:29 PM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:51:57 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 8:02:46 AM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 1:12:10 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 3:21:07 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 10:54:51 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 3:13:17 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Cannes Film Festival is showing a film called simply 'cow', it seems to be growing in steady popularity, were any of your cows famous Don ?
> > > > > > > > > Is area 53 pretty close to area 51? it only has area 52 between area 51 snd area 53?
> > > > > > > > is their name sinisterly connected to the temperature in their zones? If Eve did not offer an apple to Adam would she still be male?
> > > > > > > Your comments are too logical to comment on.
> > > > > > and everyone can understand that the Turing debate is no better solved when computers become sophisticated
> > > > > > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57761873
> > > > > well this voice imitation thing is just one more way to screw people the way I see it.
> character imitated, some people remember those chat bots set off replying online to one another. "I dislike the tone of your voice while attempting to provoke me to take that apple, whoever you are" had never seemed likely arguement !
> > > > >
> > > > > Boy that voice cloning just another way the Internet has become chaos.
> seems so.
> > > > > temperatures of area 51 and 53 are connected to the numbers 51 and 53 but I'm not sure if it's Fahrenheit or centigrade.
> > > > > you ask would Eve still be male which assumes that she was male , does it have something to do with these males they try to become females and they have male genitalia still but they take bunches of female hormone so that their upper parts look like a female and I don't mean an ugly female , these women are drop dead gorgeous .
> > > > > Happy Independence Day to you too .
> > > > > do I have any famous cows yes I do one of them was president before Biden
> > > > > you are correct , dogs are not cats , the same as squirrels are not porcupines and the Andromeda galaxy is not a gopher . funny how that works.
> > > > lol
> > > Let's not have just an LOL , I really need some decisive commentary on my post.
> > Or maybe not.
and these are so realistic, its would be uncomplimentary to pick out the errors you percieve to exist. e.g. I would not like to say "I think you are too narrow, short, weightless to be a mortal human"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-57569224

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 by: Don Stockbauer - Wed, 14 Jul 2021 18:54 UTC

On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 12:51:05 PM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 2:40:38 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 11:22:31 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 2:59:29 PM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:51:57 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 8:02:46 AM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 1:12:10 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 3:21:07 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 10:54:51 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 3:13:17 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Cannes Film Festival is showing a film called simply 'cow', it seems to be growing in steady popularity, were any of your cows famous Don ?
> > > > > > > > > Is area 53 pretty close to area 51? it only has area 52 between area 51 snd area 53?
> > > > > > > > is their name sinisterly connected to the temperature in their zones? If Eve did not offer an apple to Adam would she still be male?
> > > > > > > Your comments are too logical to comment on.
> > > > > > and everyone can understand that the Turing debate is no better solved when computers become sophisticated
> > > > > > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57761873
> > > > > well this voice imitation thing is just one more way to screw people the way I see it.
> character imitated, some people remember those chat bots set off replying online to one another. "I dislike the tone of your voice while attempting to provoke me to take that apple, whoever you are" had never seemed likely arguement !
> > > > >
> > > > > Boy that voice cloning just another way the Internet has become chaos.
> seems so.
> > > > > temperatures of area 51 and 53 are connected to the numbers 51 and 53 but I'm not sure if it's Fahrenheit or centigrade.
> > > > > you ask would Eve still be male which assumes that she was male , does it have something to do with these males they try to become females and they have male genitalia still but they take bunches of female hormone so that their upper parts look like a female and I don't mean an ugly female , these women are drop dead gorgeous .
> > > > > Happy Independence Day to you too .
> > > > > do I have any famous cows yes I do one of them was president before Biden
> > > > > you are correct , dogs are not cats , the same as squirrels are not porcupines and the Andromeda galaxy is not a gopher . funny how that works.
> > > > lol
> > > Let's not have just an LOL , I really need some decisive commentary on my post.
> > Or maybe not.

I didn't see a message in your last post; is it in invisible ink?

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 by: Don Stockbauer - Wed, 14 Jul 2021 21:33 UTC

On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 1:54:25 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 12:51:05 PM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 2:40:38 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 11:22:31 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 2:59:29 PM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:51:57 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 8:02:46 AM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 1:12:10 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 3:21:07 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 10:54:51 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 3:13:17 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Cannes Film Festival is showing a film called simply 'cow', it seems to be growing in steady popularity, were any of your cows famous Don ?
> > > > > > > > > > Is area 53 pretty close to area 51? it only has area 52 between area 51 snd area 53?
> > > > > > > > > is their name sinisterly connected to the temperature in their zones? If Eve did not offer an apple to Adam would she still be male?
> > > > > > > > Your comments are too logical to comment on.
> > > > > > > and everyone can understand that the Turing debate is no better solved when computers become sophisticated
> > > > > > > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57761873
> > > > > > well this voice imitation thing is just one more way to screw people the way I see it.
> > character imitated, some people remember those chat bots set off replying online to one another. "I dislike the tone of your voice while attempting to provoke me to take that apple, whoever you are" had never seemed likely arguement !
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Boy that voice cloning just another way the Internet has become chaos.
> > seems so.
> > > > > > temperatures of area 51 and 53 are connected to the numbers 51 and 53 but I'm not sure if it's Fahrenheit or centigrade.
> > > > > > you ask would Eve still be male which assumes that she was male , does it have something to do with these males they try to become females and they have male genitalia still but they take bunches of female hormone so that their upper parts look like a female and I don't mean an ugly female , these women are drop dead gorgeous .
> > > > > > Happy Independence Day to you too .
> > > > > > do I have any famous cows yes I do one of them was president before Biden
> > > > > > you are correct , dogs are not cats , the same as squirrels are not porcupines and the Andromeda galaxy is not a gopher . funny how that works.
> > > > > lol
> > > > Let's not have just an LOL , I really need some decisive commentary on my post.
> > > Or maybe not.
> I didn't see a message in your last post; is it in invisible ink?

Shouldn't there be more to life than chat bots, that is, endlessly worrying about them?

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On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 4:33:04 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 1:54:25 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 12:51:05 PM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 2:40:38 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 11:22:31 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 2:59:29 PM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:51:57 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 8:02:46 AM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 1:12:10 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 3:21:07 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 10:54:51 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 3:13:17 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Cannes Film Festival is showing a film called simply 'cow', it seems to be growing in steady popularity, were any of your cows famous Don ?
> > > > > > > > > > > Is area 53 pretty close to area 51? it only has area 52 between area 51 snd area 53?
> > > > > > > > > > is their name sinisterly connected to the temperature in their zones? If Eve did not offer an apple to Adam would she still be male?
> > > > > > > > > Your comments are too logical to comment on.
> > > > > > > > and everyone can understand that the Turing debate is no better solved when computers become sophisticated
> > > > > > > > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57761873
> > > > > > > well this voice imitation thing is just one more way to screw people the way I see it.
> > > character imitated, some people remember those chat bots set off replying online to one another. "I dislike the tone of your voice while attempting to provoke me to take that apple, whoever you are" had never seemed likely arguement !
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Boy that voice cloning just another way the Internet has become chaos.
> > > seems so.
> > > > > > > temperatures of area 51 and 53 are connected to the numbers 51 and 53 but I'm not sure if it's Fahrenheit or centigrade.
> > > > > > > you ask would Eve still be male which assumes that she was male , does it have something to do with these males they try to become females and they have male genitalia still but they take bunches of female hormone so that their upper parts look like a female and I don't mean an ugly female , these women are drop dead gorgeous .
> > > > > > > Happy Independence Day to you too .
> > > > > > > do I have any famous cows yes I do one of them was president before Biden
> > > > > > > you are correct , dogs are not cats , the same as squirrels are not porcupines and the Andromeda galaxy is not a gopher . funny how that works.
> > > > > > lol
> > > > > Let's not have just an LOL , I really need some decisive commentary on my post.
> > > > Or maybe not.
> > I didn't see a message in your last post; is it in invisible ink?
> Shouldn't there be more to life than chat bots, that is, endlessly worrying about them?

No , I don't have any famous cows because they're not mine , the neighbor leases the place and runs them.

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> On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 4:33:04 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 1:54:25 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 12:51:05 PM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 2:40:38 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 11:22:31 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 2:59:29 PM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:51:57 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 8:02:46 AM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 1:12:10 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 3:21:07 PM UTC-5, assumed.. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 10:54:51 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 3:13:17 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Cannes Film Festival is showing a film called simply 'cow', it seems to be growing in steady popularity, were any of your cows famous Don ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > Is area 53 pretty close to area 51? it only has area 52 between area 51 snd area 53?
> > > > > > > > > > > is their name sinisterly connected to the temperature in their zones? If Eve did not offer an apple to Adam would she still be male?
> > > > > > > > > > Your comments are too logical to comment on.
> > > > > > > > > and everyone can understand that the Turing debate is no better solved when computers become sophisticated
> > > > > > > > > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57761873
> > > > > > > > well this voice imitation thing is just one more way to screw people the way I see it.
> > > > character imitated, some people remember those chat bots set off replying online to one another. "I dislike the tone of your voice while attempting to provoke me to take that apple, whoever you are" had never seemed likely arguement !
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Boy that voice cloning just another way the Internet has become chaos.
> > > > seems so.
> > > > > > > > temperatures of area 51 and 53 are connected to the numbers 51 and 53 but I'm not sure if it's Fahrenheit or centigrade.
> > > > > > > > you ask would Eve still be male which assumes that she was male , does it have something to do with these males they try to become females and they have male genitalia still but they take bunches of female hormone so that their upper parts look like a female and I don't mean an ugly female , these women are drop dead gorgeous .
> > > > > > > > Happy Independence Day to you too .
> > > > > > > > do I have any famous cows yes I do one of them was president before Biden
> > > > > > > > you are correct , dogs are not cats , the same as squirrels are not porcupines and the Andromeda galaxy is not a gopher . funny how that works.
> > > > > > > lol
> > > > > > Let's not have just an LOL , I really need some decisive commentary on my post.
> > > > > Or maybe not.
> > > I didn't see a message in your last post; is it in invisible ink?
> > Shouldn't there be more to life than chat bots, that is, endlessly worrying about them?
> No , I don't have any famous cows because they're not mine , the neighbor leases the place and runs them.

so this voice imitation software , we can see where it's good for crime , does it have any positive uses at all?

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On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 7:54:25 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 12:51:05 PM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 2:40:38 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 11:22:31 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 2:59:29 PM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:51:57 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 8:02:46 AM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 1:12:10 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 3:21:07 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 10:54:51 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 3:13:17 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Cannes Film Festival is showing a film called simply 'cow', it seems to be growing in steady popularity, were any of your cows famous Don ?
> > > > > > > > > > Is area 53 pretty close to area 51? it only has area 52 between area 51 snd area 53?
> > > > > > > > > is their name sinisterly connected to the temperature in their zones? If Eve did not offer an apple to Adam would she still be male?
> > > > > > > > Your comments are too logical to comment on.
> > > > > > > and everyone can understand that the Turing debate is no better solved when computers become sophisticated
> > > > > > > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57761873
> > > > > > well this voice imitation thing is just one more way to screw people the way I see it.
> > character imitated, some people remember those chat bots set off replying online to one another. "I dislike the tone of your voice while attempting to provoke me to take that apple, whoever you are" had never seemed likely arguement !
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Boy that voice cloning just another way the Internet has become chaos.
> > seems so.
> > > > > > temperatures of area 51 and 53 are connected to the numbers 51 and 53 but I'm not sure if it's Fahrenheit or centigrade.
> > > > > > you ask would Eve still be male which assumes that she was male , does it have something to do with these males they try to become females and they have male genitalia still but they take bunches of female hormone so that their upper parts look like a female and I don't mean an ugly female , these women are drop dead gorgeous .
> > > > > > Happy Independence Day to you too .
> > > > > > do I have any famous cows yes I do one of them was president before Biden
> > > > > > you are correct , dogs are not cats , the same as squirrels are not porcupines and the Andromeda galaxy is not a gopher . funny how that works.
> > > > > lol
> > > > Let's not have just an LOL , I really need some decisive commentary on my post.
> > > Or maybe not.
> I didn't see a message in your last post; is it in invisible ink?
thats called redundent or phatic communication (make your choice) either means your negative response in a logically parsed calculation.

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On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 10:33:04 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 1:54:25 PM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 12:51:05 PM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 2:40:38 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 11:22:31 AM UTC-5, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 2:59:29 PM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:51:57 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 8:02:46 AM UTC-5, assumed.i...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 1:12:10 PM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 3:21:07 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 10:54:51 AM UTC+1, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 3:13:17 PM UTC-5, assumed. identiy.3396 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Cannes Film Festival is showing a film called simply 'cow', it seems to be growing in steady popularity, were any of your cows famous Don ?
> > > > > > > > > > > Is area 53 pretty close to area 51? it only has area 52 between area 51 snd area 53?
> > > > > > > > > > is their name sinisterly connected to the temperature in their zones? If Eve did not offer an apple to Adam would she still be male?
> > > > > > > > > Your comments are too logical to comment on.
> > > > > > > > and everyone can understand that the Turing debate is no better solved when computers become sophisticated
> > > > > > > > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57761873
> > > > > > > well this voice imitation thing is just one more way to screw people the way I see it.
> > > character imitated, some people remember those chat bots set off replying online to one another. "I dislike the tone of your voice while attempting to provoke me to take that apple, whoever you are" had never seemed likely arguement !
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Boy that voice cloning just another way the Internet has become chaos.
> > > seems so.
> > > > > > > temperatures of area 51 and 53 are connected to the numbers 51 and 53 but I'm not sure if it's Fahrenheit or centigrade.
> > > > > > > you ask would Eve still be male which assumes that she was male , does it have something to do with these males they try to become females and they have male genitalia still but they take bunches of female hormone so that their upper parts look like a female and I don't mean an ugly female , these women are drop dead gorgeous .
> > > > > > > Happy Independence Day to you too .
> > > > > > > do I have any famous cows yes I do one of them was president before Biden
> > > > > > > you are correct , dogs are not cats , the same as squirrels are not porcupines and the Andromeda galaxy is not a gopher . funny how that works.
> > > > > > lol
> > > > > Let's not have just an LOL , I really need some decisive commentary on my post.
> > > > Or maybe not.
> > I didn't see a message in your last post; is it in invisible ink?
> Shouldn't there be more to life than chat bots, that is, endlessly worrying about them?
I don't worry about them one way or another, I try to avoid scams trying to use tecnology to ruin ordinary person to person (information) correspondence

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