On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 19:49:05 +0100
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Even if they had, is your statement any more reasonable? A person who
> is most at risk will likely die. The ones we want to vaccinate are the
> ones who don't die, but wander around giving the virus to other people
> and allowing it to live and mutate. Surely?

Yet when the vaccines did become available they went to those most
at risk first, at least that's what happened here.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
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On 28/10/2021 15:35, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 19:49:05 +0100
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Even if they had, is your statement any more reasonable? A person who
>> is most at risk will likely die. The ones we want to vaccinate are the
>> ones who don't die, but wander around giving the virus to other people
>> and allowing it to live and mutate. Surely?
>
> Yet when the vaccines did become available they went to those most
> at risk first, at least that's what happened here.
>
Well yes.

The effect of the vaccine is to reduce the severity and the viral load
on people who catch the thing.

So less ill, less likely to die, less likely to pass it on.

The first priority here was to stop people dying and reduce the hospital
load. The medical staff I have talked to said it was touch and go at one
or two points.,

Subsequently the next priority was to reduce the spread, to protect
mostly those who refused to be vaccinated.

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eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such
time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic
and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally
important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for
the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the
truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

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On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 22:57:06 +0200, jak wrote:

<snip for clarity>

> You may also have noticed that vaccinated people are less careful about
> other people around them. They act as if they can no longer infect
> anyone and this is false.

This is probably your only sensible observation

Yes there are a large number of vaccinated Idiots who don't care about
others.
Tripple jabbed but I still wear a mask when out because if I dont how
can I expect it of others.

--
Know what I hate most? Rhetorical questions.
-- Henry N. Camp

On 30/10/2021 16:25, alister wrote:
>
> On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 22:57:06 +0200, jak wrote:
>>
>> You may also have noticed that vaccinated people are less careful about
>> other people around them. They act as if they can no longer infect
>> anyone and this is false.
>
> This is probably your only sensible observation
>
> Yes there are a large number of vaccinated Idiots who don't care about
> others.
> Tripple jabbed but I still wear a mask when out because if I dont how
> can I expect it of others.

IME there are more unvaccinated idiots who don't care about others, this
probably being one of the reasons they're still unvaccinated.

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On Sat, 30 Oct 2021 16:57:59 +0100, Java Jive wrote:

> On 30/10/2021 16:25, alister wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 22:57:06 +0200, jak wrote:
>>>
>>> You may also have noticed that vaccinated people are less careful
>>> about other people around them. They act as if they can no longer
>>> infect anyone and this is false.
>>
>> This is probably your only sensible observation
>>
>> Yes there are a large number of vaccinated Idiots who don't care about
>> others.
>> Tripple jabbed but I still wear a mask when out because if I dont how
>> can I expect it of others.
>
> IME there are more unvaccinated idiots who don't care about others, this
> probably being one of the reasons they're still unvaccinated.

if I get a tetanus shot do I worry about the unvaccinated giving me
tetanus?? If I get a flu shot do I worry about the unvaccinated giving me
the flu??? I am vaccinated against polio..do I worry about the
unvaccinated giving me polio??? The answer is FUCK NO....What a bunch of
blathering idiots...you can tell who the vaccinated ones are...their
brains are now mush....Hurry up vaccinated idiots...get on the booster
train...you don't want to be left behind....

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On Sat, 30 Oct 2021 18:17:28 +0000, killa-de-bug wrote:

> On Sat, 30 Oct 2021 16:57:59 +0100, Java Jive wrote:
>
>> On 30/10/2021 16:25, alister wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 22:57:06 +0200, jak wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You may also have noticed that vaccinated people are less careful
>>>> about other people around them. They act as if they can no longer
>>>> infect anyone and this is false.
>>>
>>> This is probably your only sensible observation
>>>
>>> Yes there are a large number of vaccinated Idiots who don't care about
>>> others.
>>> Tripple jabbed but I still wear a mask when out because if I dont
>>> how
>>> can I expect it of others.
>>
>> IME there are more unvaccinated idiots who don't care about others,
>> this probably being one of the reasons they're still unvaccinated.
>
>
> if I get a tetanus shot do I worry about the unvaccinated giving me
> tetanus?? If I get a flu shot do I worry about the unvaccinated giving
> me the flu??? I am vaccinated against polio..do I worry about the
> unvaccinated giving me polio??? The answer is FUCK NO....What a bunch of
> blathering idiots...you can tell who the vaccinated ones are...their
> brains are now mush....Hurry up vaccinated idiots...get on the booster
> train...you don't want to be left behind....

So if you still need a booster after being fully vaccinated, and testing
after being fully vaccinated, and hospitalization after being fully
vaccinated, and masks, social distancing & lock-downs all after being
fully vaccinated????

Then it's time to admit you have been FULLY conned......

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On 30/10/2021 19:32, Bubba the Corn Dog wrote:
>
> On Sat, 30 Oct 2021 18:17:28 +0000, killa-de-bug wrote:
>>

Both these irrational idiotic posts are by the same nym-shifter.

>> On Sat, 30 Oct 2021 16:57:59 +0100, Java Jive wrote:
>>>
>>> IME there are more unvaccinated idiots who don't care about others,
>>> this probably being one of the reasons they're still unvaccinated.
>>
>> if I get a tetanus shot do I worry about the unvaccinated giving me
>> tetanus??

No, because it's not usually infectious by respiration.

> If I get a flu shot do I worry about the unvaccinated giving
>> me the flu???

Possibly, because the yearly flu vaccines are designed from predictions
as to what are likely to be the most prevalent &/or deadly strains in
the following year, and these predictions aren't always correct.
However, covid-19 is many times more deadly than most flu strains,
certainly the recent ones and probably also the historical ones, though
there is a shortage of reliable data for the latter.

> I am vaccinated against polio..do I worry about the
>> unvaccinated giving me polio???

No, because it's not usually infectious by respiration.

> The answer is FUCK NO....What a bunch of
>> blathering idiots...you can tell who the vaccinated ones are...their
>> brains are now mush....Hurry up vaccinated idiots...get on the booster
>> train...you don't want to be left behind....

You're the one with a turd for a brain in this thread.

> So if you still need a booster after being fully vaccinated, and testing
> after being fully vaccinated, and hospitalization after being fully
> vaccinated, and masks, social distancing & lock-downs all after being
> fully vaccinated????

The vaccines are largely effective at preventing people getting severe
covid-19 and needing hospitalisation or dying. Figures vary but within
the UK, if you catch covid-19 you are about 3x more likely to die if
you're not vaccinated than if you are (see graph entitled 'Unvaccinated
more likely to die with Covid'):

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

However, *NO* vaccine is ever 100% effective, and covid-19 is still an
emergent disease spouting frequent new variants, any one of which at any
time might turn out to be one that can circumvent the protection given
by one, more, or all of the current vaccines, and the more the disease
is allowed to fester on within any given population, the greater the
chance of that happening. It is in *NOBODY'S* interest to allow that to
happen, those who are still not vaccinated owe to themselves, their
nearest and dearest, and those they meet in everyday life to get
themselves fully vaccinated at the earliest opportunity.

> Then it's time to admit you have been FULLY conned......

You have certainly been conned, but fortunately you are far too stupid
to be able to con others.

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I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
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On 2021-10-30, killa-de-bug <killdbug@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Oct 2021 16:57:59 +0100, Java Jive wrote:
>
>> On 30/10/2021 16:25, alister wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 22:57:06 +0200, jak wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You may also have noticed that vaccinated people are less careful
>>>> about other people around them. They act as if they can no longer
>>>> infect anyone and this is false.
>>>
>>> This is probably your only sensible observation
>>>
>>> Yes there are a large number of vaccinated Idiots who don't care about
>>> others.
>>> Tripple jabbed but I still wear a mask when out because if I dont how
>>> can I expect it of others.
>>
>> IME there are more unvaccinated idiots who don't care about others, this
>> probably being one of the reasons they're still unvaccinated.
>
>
> if I get a tetanus shot do I worry about the unvaccinated giving me

Noone gets tetnus from other people.

> tetanus?? If I get a flu shot do I worry about the unvaccinated giving me
You should, since flu vaccines are only about50-70 % effective
Fortunatelytheir fatality rate is relatively low (except sometimes, like
Spanish flu). Covid's is high, esp
for older people
> the flu??? I am vaccinated against polio..do I worry about the

The transmissability of polio is low. Ie the current level of
vaccination is high enough to prevent a pandemic. Talk to people in the
50's about the polio worries.
> unvaccinated giving me polio??? The answer is FUCK NO....What a bunch of
> blathering idiots...you can tell who the vaccinated ones are...their
> brains are now mush....Hurry up vaccinated idiots...get on the booster
> train...you don't want to boe left behind....

And you care why?

>
>
>
>
>

>> brains are now mush....Hurry up vaccinated idiots...get on the booster
>> train...you don't want to boe left behind....
>
>And you care why?

Please don't feed the trolls :(

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On Sat, 30 Oct 2021 20:34:11 +0000, William Unruh wrote:

> On 2021-10-30, killa-de-bug <killdbug@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 30 Oct 2021 16:57:59 +0100, Java Jive wrote:
>>
>>> On 30/10/2021 16:25, alister wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 22:57:06 +0200, jak wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You may also have noticed that vaccinated people are less careful
>>>>> about other people around them. They act as if they can no longer
>>>>> infect anyone and this is false.
>>>>
>>>> This is probably your only sensible observation
>>>>
>>>> Yes there are a large number of vaccinated Idiots who don't care
>>>> about others.
>>>> Tripple jabbed but I still wear a mask when out because if I dont
>>>> how
>>>> can I expect it of others.
>>>
>>> IME there are more unvaccinated idiots who don't care about others,
>>> this probably being one of the reasons they're still unvaccinated.
>>
>>
>> if I get a tetanus shot do I worry about the unvaccinated giving me
>
> Noone gets tetnus from other people.
>
>> tetanus?? If I get a flu shot do I worry about the unvaccinated giving
>> me
> You should, since flu vaccines are only about50-70 % effective
> Fortunatelytheir fatality rate is relatively low (except sometimes, like
> Spanish flu). Covid's is high, esp for older people
>> the flu??? I am vaccinated against polio..do I worry about the
>
> The transmissability of polio is low. Ie the current level of
> vaccination is high enough to prevent a pandemic. Talk to people in the
> 50's about the polio worries.
>> unvaccinated giving me polio??? The answer is FUCK NO....What a bunch
>> of blathering idiots...you can tell who the vaccinated ones are...their
>> brains are now mush....Hurry up vaccinated idiots...get on the booster
>> train...you don't want to boe left behind....
>
> And you care why?
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>

I don't care you vaccinated dipshit....hurry up and get on the booster
train.....

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On Sat, 30 Oct 2021 20:16:38 +0100, Java Jive wrote:

> On 30/10/2021 19:32, Bubba the Corn Dog wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 30 Oct 2021 18:17:28 +0000, killa-de-bug wrote:
>>>
>>>
> Both these irrational idiotic posts are by the same nym-shifter.
>
>>> On Sat, 30 Oct 2021 16:57:59 +0100, Java Jive wrote:
>>>>
>>>> IME there are more unvaccinated idiots who don't care about others,
>>>> this probably being one of the reasons they're still unvaccinated.
>>>
>>> if I get a tetanus shot do I worry about the unvaccinated giving me
>>> tetanus??
>
> No, because it's not usually infectious by respiration.
>
>> If I get a flu shot do I worry about the unvaccinated giving
>>> me the flu???
>
> Possibly, because the yearly flu vaccines are designed from predictions
> as to what are likely to be the most prevalent &/or deadly strains in
> the following year, and these predictions aren't always correct.
> However, covid-19 is many times more deadly than most flu strains,
> certainly the recent ones and probably also the historical ones, though
> there is a shortage of reliable data for the latter.
>
>> I am vaccinated against polio..do I worry about the
>>> unvaccinated giving me polio???
>
> No, because it's not usually infectious by respiration.
>
>> The answer is FUCK NO....What a bunch of
>>> blathering idiots...you can tell who the vaccinated ones are...their
>>> brains are now mush....Hurry up vaccinated idiots...get on the booster
>>> train...you don't want to be left behind....
>
> You're the one with a turd for a brain in this thread.
>
>> So if you still need a booster after being fully vaccinated, and
>> testing after being fully vaccinated, and hospitalization after being
>> fully vaccinated, and masks, social distancing & lock-downs all after
>> being fully vaccinated????
>
> The vaccines are largely effective at preventing people getting severe
> covid-19 and needing hospitalisation or dying. Figures vary but within
> the UK, if you catch covid-19 you are about 3x more likely to die if
> you're not vaccinated than if you are (see graph entitled 'Unvaccinated
> more likely to die with Covid'):
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274
>
> However, *NO* vaccine is ever 100% effective, and covid-19 is still an
> emergent disease spouting frequent new variants, any one of which at any
> time might turn out to be one that can circumvent the protection given
> by one, more, or all of the current vaccines, and the more the disease
> is allowed to fester on within any given population, the greater the
> chance of that happening. It is in *NOBODY'S* interest to allow that to
> happen, those who are still not vaccinated owe to themselves, their
> nearest and dearest, and those they meet in everyday life to get
> themselves fully vaccinated at the earliest opportunity.
>
>> Then it's time to admit you have been FULLY conned......
>
> You have certainly been conned, but fortunately you are far too stupid
> to be able to con others.

So says a vaccinated dipshit.....hurry up and get on the booster train
dipshit.....

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On 31/10/2021 01:22, killa-de-bug wrote:
>
> On Sat, 30 Oct 2021 20:16:38 +0100, Java Jive wrote:
>>
>> The vaccines are largely effective at preventing people getting severe
>> covid-19 and needing hospitalisation or dying. Figures vary but within
>> the UK, if you catch covid-19 you are about 3x more likely to die if
>> you're not vaccinated than if you are (see graph entitled 'Unvaccinated
>> more likely to die with Covid'):
>>
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274
>>
>> However, *NO* vaccine is ever 100% effective, and covid-19 is still an
>> emergent disease spouting frequent new variants, any one of which at any
>> time might turn out to be one that can circumvent the protection given
>> by one, more, or all of the current vaccines, and the more the disease
>> is allowed to fester on within any given population, the greater the
>> chance of that happening. It is in *NOBODY'S* interest to allow that to
>> happen, those who are still not vaccinated owe to themselves, their
>> nearest and dearest, and those they meet in everyday life to get
>> themselves fully vaccinated at the earliest opportunity.
>>
>>> Then it's time to admit you have been FULLY conned......
>>
>> You have certainly been conned, but fortunately you are far too stupid
>> to be able to con others.
>
> So says a vaccinated dipshit.....hurry up and get on the booster train
> dipshit.....

Abuse instead of rational argument is the first resort of the
hard-of-thinking.

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On 31/10/2021 01:19, killa-de-bug wrote:
>
> I don't care you vaccinated dipshit....hurry up and get on the booster
> train.....

Abuse instead of rational argument is the first resort of the
hard-of-thinking.

--

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On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 10:06:51 +0000, Java Jive wrote:

> On 31/10/2021 01:19, killa-de-bug wrote:
>>
>> I don't care you vaccinated dipshit....hurry up and get on the booster
>> train.....
>
> Abuse instead of rational argument is the first resort of the
> hard-of-thinking.

Breakthrough Infections, Deaths Among COVID-19 Vaccinated Rose in Recent
Months: CDC

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On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 10:05:23 +0000, Java Jive wrote:

> On 31/10/2021 01:22, killa-de-bug wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 30 Oct 2021 20:16:38 +0100, Java Jive wrote:
>>>
>>> The vaccines are largely effective at preventing people getting severe
>>> covid-19 and needing hospitalisation or dying. Figures vary but
>>> within the UK, if you catch covid-19 you are about 3x more likely to
>>> die if you're not vaccinated than if you are (see graph entitled
>>> 'Unvaccinated more likely to die with Covid'):
>>>
>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274
>>>
>>> However, *NO* vaccine is ever 100% effective, and covid-19 is still an
>>> emergent disease spouting frequent new variants, any one of which at
>>> any time might turn out to be one that can circumvent the protection
>>> given by one, more, or all of the current vaccines, and the more the
>>> disease is allowed to fester on within any given population, the
>>> greater the chance of that happening. It is in *NOBODY'S* interest to
>>> allow that to happen, those who are still not vaccinated owe to
>>> themselves, their nearest and dearest, and those they meet in everyday
>>> life to get themselves fully vaccinated at the earliest opportunity.
>>>
>>>> Then it's time to admit you have been FULLY conned......
>>>
>>> You have certainly been conned, but fortunately you are far too stupid
>>> to be able to con others.
>>
>> So says a vaccinated dipshit.....hurry up and get on the booster train
>> dipshit.....
>
> Abuse instead of rational argument is the first resort of the
> hard-of-thinking.

Breakthrough Infections, Deaths Among COVID-19 Vaccinated Rose in Recent
Months: CDC

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On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 10:06:51 +0000
Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

>On 31/10/2021 01:19, killa-de-bug wrote:
>>
>> I don't care you vaccinated dipshit....hurry up and get on the booster
>> train.....
>
>Abuse instead of rational argument is the first resort of the
>hard-of-thinking.
>
Please don't feed the trolls

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On 31/10/2021 12:35, Bubba the Corn Dog wrote:
>
> On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 10:05:23 +0000, Java Jive wrote:
>>
>> On 31/10/2021 01:22, killa-de-bug wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, 30 Oct 2021 20:16:38 +0100, Java Jive wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You have certainly been conned, but fortunately you are far too stupid
>>>> to be able to con others.
>>>
>>> So says a vaccinated dipshit.....hurry up and get on the booster train
>>> dipshit.....
>>
>> Abuse instead of rational argument is the first resort of the
>> hard-of-thinking.
>
> Breakthrough Infections, Deaths Among COVID-19 Vaccinated Rose in Recent
> Months: CDC

Yes, we know that, and we know also that, as previously linked,
breakthrough infections in those who have been vaccinated are less
serious and less likely to lead to death than infections in those that
have not been vaccinated, so your attempted argument against vaccination
is completely vacuous and irrational.

People get themselves vaccinated for the same reason as, on a busy road
with lots of traffic, they walk down it on the pavement/sidewalk rather
on the carriageway amongst all the traffic, becasue it represents a NET
REDUCTION IN PERSONAL RISK. It won't stop a badly-driven car mounting
the pavement and killing them there, but IT'S LESS LIKELY, and for the
same reason being vaccinated makes it LESS LIKELY that you will have a
severe infection and maybe DIE!

But by all means carry on refusing to get vaccinated, because if you die
you will render humanity's gene-pool a service by removing one of the
stupider elements of it.

--

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I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
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On 31/10/2021 12:35, Bubba the Corn Dog wrote:
>
> On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 10:06:51 +0000, Java Jive wrote:
>>
>> On 31/10/2021 01:19, killa-de-bug wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't care you vaccinated dipshit....hurry up and get on the booster
>>> train.....
>>
>> Abuse instead of rational argument is the first resort of the
>> hard-of-thinking.
>
> Breakthrough Infections, Deaths Among COVID-19 Vaccinated Rose in Recent
> Months: CDC

See other reply, candidate for the Darwin Awards for removing the worst
elements from humanity's gene-pool.

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Fake news kills!

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On 31/10/2021 12:47, Folderol wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 10:06:51 +0000
> Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 31/10/2021 01:19, killa-de-bug wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't care you vaccinated dipshit....hurry up and get on the booster
>>> train.....
>>
>> Abuse instead of rational argument is the first resort of the
>> hard-of-thinking.
>>
> Please don't feed the trolls

It's too important a matter to allow them to get away with lying and
fake-news. Kill the subthread if you don't like it.

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On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 13:22:59 +0000, Java Jive wrote:

> On 31/10/2021 12:35, Bubba the Corn Dog wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 10:05:23 +0000, Java Jive wrote:
>>>
>>> On 31/10/2021 01:22, killa-de-bug wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 30 Oct 2021 20:16:38 +0100, Java Jive wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You have certainly been conned, but fortunately you are far too
>>>>> stupid to be able to con others.
>>>>
>>>> So says a vaccinated dipshit.....hurry up and get on the booster
>>>> train dipshit.....
>>>
>>> Abuse instead of rational argument is the first resort of the
>>> hard-of-thinking.
>>
>> Breakthrough Infections, Deaths Among COVID-19 Vaccinated Rose in
>> Recent Months: CDC
>
> Yes, we know that, and we know also that, as previously linked,
> breakthrough infections in those who have been vaccinated are less
> serious and less likely to lead to death than infections in those that
> have not been vaccinated, so your attempted argument against vaccination
> is completely vacuous and irrational.
>
> People get themselves vaccinated for the same reason as, on a busy road
> with lots of traffic, they walk down it on the pavement/sidewalk rather
> on the carriageway amongst all the traffic, becasue it represents a NET
> REDUCTION IN PERSONAL RISK. It won't stop a badly-driven car mounting
> the pavement and killing them there, but IT'S LESS LIKELY, and for the
> same reason being vaccinated makes it LESS LIKELY that you will have a
> severe infection and maybe DIE!
>
> But by all means carry on refusing to get vaccinated, because if you die
> you will render humanity's gene-pool a service by removing one of the
> stupider elements of it.

Be sure and get on the booster train dipshit....by doing so you are
contributing to my retirement account....Covid gonna get you...Covid
gonna get you.....watch how many vaccinated dipshits die this
winter....it is gonna be alot...Covid gonna get you....Covid gonna get you

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On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 13:25:12 +0000, Java Jive wrote:

> On 31/10/2021 12:35, Bubba the Corn Dog wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 10:06:51 +0000, Java Jive wrote:
>>>
>>> On 31/10/2021 01:19, killa-de-bug wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't care you vaccinated dipshit....hurry up and get on the
>>>> booster train.....
>>>
>>> Abuse instead of rational argument is the first resort of the
>>> hard-of-thinking.
>>
>> Breakthrough Infections, Deaths Among COVID-19 Vaccinated Rose in
>> Recent Months: CDC
>
> See other reply, candidate for the Darwin Awards for removing the worst
> elements from humanity's gene-pool.

Will see if you are alive next spring.....get on the booster train...Covid
gonna get you....Covid gonna get you......

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On 31/10/2021 19:33, killa-de-bug wrote:
>
> On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 13:22:59 +0000, Java Jive wrote:
>>
>> On 31/10/2021 12:35, Bubba the Corn Dog wrote:
>>>
>>> Breakthrough Infections, Deaths Among COVID-19 Vaccinated Rose in
>>> Recent Months: CDC
>>
>> Yes, we know that, and we know also that, as previously linked,
>> breakthrough infections in those who have been vaccinated are less
>> serious and less likely to lead to death than infections in those that
>> have not been vaccinated, so your attempted argument against vaccination
>> is completely vacuous and irrational.
>>
>> People get themselves vaccinated for the same reason as, on a busy road
>> with lots of traffic, they walk down it on the pavement/sidewalk rather
>> on the carriageway amongst all the traffic, becasue it represents a NET
>> REDUCTION IN PERSONAL RISK. It won't stop a badly-driven car mounting
>> the pavement and killing them there, but IT'S LESS LIKELY, and for the
>> same reason being vaccinated makes it LESS LIKELY that you will have a
>> severe infection and maybe DIE!
>>
>> But by all means carry on refusing to get vaccinated, because if you die
>> you will render humanity's gene-pool a service by removing one of the
>> stupider elements of it.
>
> Be sure and get on the booster train dipshit....by doing so you are
> contributing to my retirement account.

I very much doubt it, so how exactly do suppose that is happening?

> Covid gonna get you...Covid
> gonna get you.....watch how many vaccinated dipshits die this
> winter....it is gonna be alot...Covid gonna get you....Covid gonna get you

You're obviously as bad at song-writing as you are at making a rational
argument, or indeed writing worth reading. As someone once said and you
need to learn, it is better to keep your mouth shut and let everyone
think you're a fool, than to open it and remove all shadow of doubt.

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On 31/10/2021 19:35, killa-de-bug wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 13:25:12 +0000, Java Jive wrote:
>
>> On 31/10/2021 12:35, Bubba the Corn Dog wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 10:06:51 +0000, Java Jive wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 31/10/2021 01:19, killa-de-bug wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't care you vaccinated dipshit....hurry up and get on the
>>>>> booster train.....
>>>>
>>>> Abuse instead of rational argument is the first resort of the
>>>> hard-of-thinking.
>>>
>>> Breakthrough Infections, Deaths Among COVID-19 Vaccinated Rose in
>>> Recent Months: CDC
>>
>> See other reply, candidate for the Darwin Awards for removing the worst
>> elements from humanity's gene-pool.
>
> Will see if you are alive next spring.....get on the booster train...Covid
> gonna get you....Covid gonna get you......

As I've already in probability had Covid-19, if I'm not around next
spring it will most probably be because of something else, so you'd
better start practising holding your breath - try playing spaceman
with a plastic bag.

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On 2021-10-28, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 28/10/2021 08:19, jak wrote:
>> Thanks for the replies. Now I understand better why this pandemic lasts
>> so long. The Maya people were more fortunate in meeting the Hispanics.
>
> in 700 years time what we ought to have done will become as clear to our
> descendants as what the 14th century people wearing plague masks ought
> to have done. Namely spent less on the church and more on terriers.
>
>

The problem is not how do we live, but what do we live *for.* The former is
solved by logistics, the latter by art, morality and religion.

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declares Itself to me, now in this misery." - Holderlin

On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 20:20:02 +0000, Java Jive wrote:

> On 31/10/2021 19:33, killa-de-bug wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 13:22:59 +0000, Java Jive wrote:
>>>
>>> On 31/10/2021 12:35, Bubba the Corn Dog wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Breakthrough Infections, Deaths Among COVID-19 Vaccinated Rose in
>>>> Recent Months: CDC
>>>
>>> Yes, we know that, and we know also that, as previously linked,
>>> breakthrough infections in those who have been vaccinated are less
>>> serious and less likely to lead to death than infections in those that
>>> have not been vaccinated, so your attempted argument against
>>> vaccination is completely vacuous and irrational.
>>>
>>> People get themselves vaccinated for the same reason as, on a busy
>>> road with lots of traffic, they walk down it on the pavement/sidewalk
>>> rather on the carriageway amongst all the traffic, becasue it
>>> represents a NET REDUCTION IN PERSONAL RISK. It won't stop a
>>> badly-driven car mounting the pavement and killing them there, but
>>> IT'S LESS LIKELY, and for the same reason being vaccinated makes it
>>> LESS LIKELY that you will have a severe infection and maybe DIE!
>>>
>>> But by all means carry on refusing to get vaccinated, because if you
>>> die you will render humanity's gene-pool a service by removing one of
>>> the stupider elements of it.
>>
>> Be sure and get on the booster train dipshit....by doing so you are
>> contributing to my retirement account.
>
> I very much doubt it, so how exactly do suppose that is happening?
>
>> Covid gonna get you...Covid gonna get you.....watch how many vaccinated
>> dipshits die this winter....it is gonna be alot...Covid gonna get
>> you....Covid gonna get you
>
> You're obviously as bad at song-writing as you are at making a rational
> argument, or indeed writing worth reading. As someone once said and you
> need to learn, it is better to keep your mouth shut and let everyone
> think you're a fool, than to open it and remove all shadow of doubt.

JJ is a deadman talking....Covid gonna get you...Covid gonna get you....

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