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 by: Don Stockbauer - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 05:59 UTC

On Wednesday, December 14, 2022 at 10:05:15 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 12:38:44 PM UTC-6, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:27:05 PM UTC, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:04:01 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 10:20:50 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:46:22 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:31:21 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 1:46:23 PM UTC-6, jobsearc....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:56:31 AM UTC, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > uOn Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 9:45:10 AM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On 11/28/2022 4:44 PM, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 12:33:32 PM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >> On 11/28/2022 11:51 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 18:31:28 UTC+1, _ Olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> On 11/28/2022 3:46 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 01:20:41 UTC+1, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> "Gödel sentence in the 1931 incompleteness proof
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> is not a truth bearer thus simply untrue"
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Prove it... Moron.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Moron.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Corollary: model theory my ass.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> *Here is how Wittgenstein ties to model theory*
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> There is how you quote Wittgenstein *out of context*,
> > > > > > > > > > >>> to make him say the exact opposite of what he said.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> You bloody troll and spammer.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> *Plonk*
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Julio
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> When I provide word-for-word everything that Wittgenstein said I am
> > > > > > > > > > >> providing the complete context. https://www.liarparadox.org/Wittgenstein.pdf
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> I know that Wittgenstein is correct because I formulated his entire
> > > > > > > > > > >> rebuttal shortly before I ever heard of him.
> > > > > > > > > > >> Incomplete(T) ↔ ∃φ ((T ⊬ φ) ∧ (T ⊬ ¬φ))
> > > > > > > > > > >> It is common knowledge that the above definition correctly formalizes
> > > > > > > > > > >> the notion of incompleteness.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> What is not common knowledge is that every self-contradictory expression
> > > > > > > > > > >> of language fulfills the above logic sentence.
> > > > > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > > > > >> Copyright 2022 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> > > > > > > > > > >> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Have you heard of Wittgenstein's poker?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It was a card game he was involved in.
> > > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj5omcY21bE
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Copyright 2022 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> > > > > > > > > > hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> > > > > > > > > OMG it wasn't about a card game at all it was about a philosophical argument not an intellectual argument but one that could have resulted in a philosopher with a red hot post poker driven into his eye
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > have a nice day
> > > > > > > > Don old chap, these men are serious researchers, quit disturbing them I plea, they could just discover something extraordinarily significant....and whilenI'm here how much did your ex-missus swindle from you, its had an extraordinary effect on your personal communications ?
> > > > > > > Dealbreaker i'm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So , with those words you're aiming for a reconciliation, Nic?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Found your passport yet?
> > > > > yeah I do that too I kind of keep trying and trying to maintain the relationship and then it becomes obvious that it's doomed so then I lash out in horrible things against my conversational opponent and then that's it you know there's 8 million other people to go and have a conversation with you so it's absolutely no big thing right? Have a nice day.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Apple dictation keeps putting down million instead of billion it's really irritating.
> > > > yeah, it's really hard for me to have a relationship because I just get irritated with people too easily and in this modern lobotomize sheep world we live in you get irritated at somebody they're just gone and if somebody stops communicating with you there's nothing on earth that can get them to communicate again because all they have to do is be lazy and not deal with you I thought of this one funny thing suppose your conversational opponent refuses to talk to you but then you find out information where they can get a kid needs to save their lives so you write to them about that they still won't contact you did rather die than contact you have a nice day I want my Dolly
> > >
> > > so what is the lesson learned? if you try to get your conversational opponent to establish a video link with you in order to reduce the possibility that they might be a scammer and that person refuses dont actually call that person a scammer because that ends the relationship immediately, what you should do is not call that person a scammer and then just wait and see if that person ever asks you for money , then the relationship is immediately over.
> > Since you have found somebody to talk physics and computers with you, there seems no o alterior motive and write to comp.ai.philosophy.
> >
> > nope I have not found my passport and travelling to the states seems like a dumb idea.
> Oh well. Keep in touch.

Don old chap, these men are serious researchers, quit disturbing them I plea, they could just discover something extraordinarily significant....and whilenI'm here how much did your ex-missus swindle from you, its had an extraordinary effect on your personal communications ?

sorry about all of this you know we had some scuffles along the way but nothing too bad apparently asking you to establish a video link with me is what did it in. At this point, who cares?

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 by: Don Stockbauer - Sat, 17 Dec 2022 13:45 UTC

On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 12:38:44 PM UTC-6, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:27:05 PM UTC, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:04:01 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 10:20:50 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:46:22 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:31:21 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 1:46:23 PM UTC-6, jobsearc....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:56:31 AM UTC, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > uOn Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 9:45:10 AM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On 11/28/2022 4:44 PM, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 12:33:32 PM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> On 11/28/2022 11:51 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 18:31:28 UTC+1, _ Olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> On 11/28/2022 3:46 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 01:20:41 UTC+1, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> "Gödel sentence in the 1931 incompleteness proof
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> is not a truth bearer thus simply untrue"
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> Prove it... Moron.
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> Moron.
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> Corollary: model theory my ass.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> *Here is how Wittgenstein ties to model theory*
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> There is how you quote Wittgenstein *out of context*,
> > > > > > > > > >>> to make him say the exact opposite of what he said.
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> You bloody troll and spammer.
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> *Plonk*
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> Julio
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> When I provide word-for-word everything that Wittgenstein said I am
> > > > > > > > > >> providing the complete context. https://www.liarparadox.org/Wittgenstein.pdf
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> I know that Wittgenstein is correct because I formulated his entire
> > > > > > > > > >> rebuttal shortly before I ever heard of him.
> > > > > > > > > >> Incomplete(T) ↔ ∃φ ((T ⊬ φ) ∧ (T ⊬ ¬φ))
> > > > > > > > > >> It is common knowledge that the above definition correctly formalizes
> > > > > > > > > >> the notion of incompleteness.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> What is not common knowledge is that every self-contradictory expression
> > > > > > > > > >> of language fulfills the above logic sentence.
> > > > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > > > >> Copyright 2022 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> > > > > > > > > >> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Have you heard of Wittgenstein's poker?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It was a card game he was involved in.
> > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj5omcY21bE
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Copyright 2022 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> > > > > > > > > hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> > > > > > > > OMG it wasn't about a card game at all it was about a philosophical argument not an intellectual argument but one that could have resulted in a philosopher with a red hot post poker driven into his eye
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > have a nice day
> > > > > > > Don old chap, these men are serious researchers, quit disturbing them I plea, they could just discover something extraordinarily significant....and whilenI'm here how much did your ex-missus swindle from you, its had an extraordinary effect on your personal communications ?
> > > > > > Dealbreaker i'm
> > > > >
> > > > > So , with those words you're aiming for a reconciliation, Nic?
> > > > >
> > > > > Found your passport yet?
> > > > yeah I do that too I kind of keep trying and trying to maintain the relationship and then it becomes obvious that it's doomed so then I lash out in horrible things against my conversational opponent and then that's it you know there's 8 million other people to go and have a conversation with you so it's absolutely no big thing right? Have a nice day.
> > > >
> > > > The Apple dictation keeps putting down million instead of billion it's really irritating.
> > > yeah, it's really hard for me to have a relationship because I just get irritated with people too easily and in this modern lobotomize sheep world we live in you get irritated at somebody they're just gone and if somebody stops communicating with you there's nothing on earth that can get them to communicate again because all they have to do is be lazy and not deal with you I thought of this one funny thing suppose your conversational opponent refuses to talk to you but then you find out information where they can get a kid needs to save their lives so you write to them about that they still won't contact you did rather die than contact you have a nice day I want my Dolly
> >
> > so what is the lesson learned? if you try to get your conversational opponent to establish a video link with you in order to reduce the possibility that they might be a scammer and that person refuses dont actually call that person a scammer because that ends the relationship immediately, what you should do is not call that person a scammer and then just wait and see if that person ever asks you for money , then the relationship is immediately over.
> Since you have found somebody to talk physics and computers with you, there seems no o alterior motive and write to comp.ai.philosophy.
>
> nope I have not found my passport and travelling to the states seems like a dumb idea.

well Nic that was a pretty low blow , your comments about my ex-wife , it really hurt .
Can I get the identity of your children because you know how evil I am I was thinking about selling them into white slavery .
I figure the relationship is destroyed so hell why not be vindictive like this?
Never form a relationship on the Internet , only with someone next-door.

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Subject: Re:_Gödel_sentence_in_the_1931_incompleteness_proof
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From: donstock...@hotmail.com (Don Stockbauer)
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 by: Don Stockbauer - Sat, 17 Dec 2022 20:19 UTC

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:45:59 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 12:38:44 PM UTC-6, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:27:05 PM UTC, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:04:01 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 10:20:50 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:46:22 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:31:21 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 1:46:23 PM UTC-6, jobsearc....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:56:31 AM UTC, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > uOn Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 9:45:10 AM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On 11/28/2022 4:44 PM, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 12:33:32 PM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >> On 11/28/2022 11:51 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 18:31:28 UTC+1, _ Olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> On 11/28/2022 3:46 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 01:20:41 UTC+1, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> "Gödel sentence in the 1931 incompleteness proof
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> is not a truth bearer thus simply untrue"
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Prove it... Moron.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Moron.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Corollary: model theory my ass.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> *Here is how Wittgenstein ties to model theory*
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> There is how you quote Wittgenstein *out of context*,
> > > > > > > > > > >>> to make him say the exact opposite of what he said.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> You bloody troll and spammer.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> *Plonk*
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Julio
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> When I provide word-for-word everything that Wittgenstein said I am
> > > > > > > > > > >> providing the complete context. https://www.liarparadox.org/Wittgenstein.pdf
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> I know that Wittgenstein is correct because I formulated his entire
> > > > > > > > > > >> rebuttal shortly before I ever heard of him.
> > > > > > > > > > >> Incomplete(T) ↔ ∃φ ((T ⊬ φ) ∧ (T ⊬ ¬φ))
> > > > > > > > > > >> It is common knowledge that the above definition correctly formalizes
> > > > > > > > > > >> the notion of incompleteness.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> What is not common knowledge is that every self-contradictory expression
> > > > > > > > > > >> of language fulfills the above logic sentence.
> > > > > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > > > > >> Copyright 2022 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> > > > > > > > > > >> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Have you heard of Wittgenstein's poker?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It was a card game he was involved in.
> > > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj5omcY21bE
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Copyright 2022 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> > > > > > > > > > hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> > > > > > > > > OMG it wasn't about a card game at all it was about a philosophical argument not an intellectual argument but one that could have resulted in a philosopher with a red hot post poker driven into his eye
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > have a nice day
> > > > > > > > Don old chap, these men are serious researchers, quit disturbing them I plea, they could just discover something extraordinarily significant....and whilenI'm here how much did your ex-missus swindle from you, its had an extraordinary effect on your personal communications ?
> > > > > > > Dealbreaker i'm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So , with those words you're aiming for a reconciliation, Nic?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Found your passport yet?
> > > > > yeah I do that too I kind of keep trying and trying to maintain the relationship and then it becomes obvious that it's doomed so then I lash out in horrible things against my conversational opponent and then that's it you know there's 8 million other people to go and have a conversation with you so it's absolutely no big thing right? Have a nice day.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Apple dictation keeps putting down million instead of billion it's really irritating.
> > > > yeah, it's really hard for me to have a relationship because I just get irritated with people too easily and in this modern lobotomize sheep world we live in you get irritated at somebody they're just gone and if somebody stops communicating with you there's nothing on earth that can get them to communicate again because all they have to do is be lazy and not deal with you I thought of this one funny thing suppose your conversational opponent refuses to talk to you but then you find out information where they can get a kid needs to save their lives so you write to them about that they still won't contact you did rather die than contact you have a nice day I want my Dolly
> > >
> > > so what is the lesson learned? if you try to get your conversational opponent to establish a video link with you in order to reduce the possibility that they might be a scammer and that person refuses dont actually call that person a scammer because that ends the relationship immediately, what you should do is not call that person a scammer and then just wait and see if that person ever asks you for money , then the relationship is immediately over.
> > Since you have found somebody to talk physics and computers with you, there seems no o alterior motive and write to comp.ai.philosophy.
> >
> > nope I have not found my passport and travelling to the states seems like a dumb idea.
> well Nic that was a pretty low blow , your comments about my ex-wife , it really hurt .
> Can I get the identity of your children because you know how evil I am I was thinking about selling them into white slavery .
> I figure the relationship is destroyed so hell why not be vindictive like this?
> Never form a relationship on the Internet , only with someone next-door.

A relationship is like a delicate champagne glass ; drop it and if it breaks in two you can fix it ; drop it and if it falls into 1000 pieces you can't fix it , go out and find another champagne glass.

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 by: Don Stockbauer - Sun, 18 Dec 2022 01:39 UTC

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 2:19:47 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:45:59 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 12:38:44 PM UTC-6, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:27:05 PM UTC, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:04:01 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 10:20:50 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:46:22 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:31:21 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 1:46:23 PM UTC-6, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:56:31 AM UTC, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > uOn Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 9:45:10 AM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On 11/28/2022 4:44 PM, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 12:33:32 PM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >> On 11/28/2022 11:51 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 18:31:28 UTC+1, _ Olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> On 11/28/2022 3:46 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 01:20:41 UTC+1, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> "Gödel sentence in the 1931 incompleteness proof
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> is not a truth bearer thus simply untrue"
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Prove it... Moron.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Moron.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Corollary: model theory my ass.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> *Here is how Wittgenstein ties to model theory*
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> There is how you quote Wittgenstein *out of context*,
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> to make him say the exact opposite of what he said.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> You bloody troll and spammer.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> *Plonk*
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Julio
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> When I provide word-for-word everything that Wittgenstein said I am
> > > > > > > > > > > >> providing the complete context. https://www.liarparadox.org/Wittgenstein.pdf
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> I know that Wittgenstein is correct because I formulated his entire
> > > > > > > > > > > >> rebuttal shortly before I ever heard of him.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Incomplete(T) ↔ ∃φ ((T ⊬ φ) ∧ (T ⊬ ¬φ))
> > > > > > > > > > > >> It is common knowledge that the above definition correctly formalizes
> > > > > > > > > > > >> the notion of incompleteness.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> What is not common knowledge is that every self-contradictory expression
> > > > > > > > > > > >> of language fulfills the above logic sentence.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Copyright 2022 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> > > > > > > > > > > >> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Have you heard of Wittgenstein's poker?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It was a card game he was involved in.
> > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj5omcY21bE
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > Copyright 2022 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> > > > > > > > > > > hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> > > > > > > > > > OMG it wasn't about a card game at all it was about a philosophical argument not an intellectual argument but one that could have resulted in a philosopher with a red hot post poker driven into his eye
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > have a nice day
> > > > > > > > > Don old chap, these men are serious researchers, quit disturbing them I plea, they could just discover something extraordinarily significant....and whilenI'm here how much did your ex-missus swindle from you, its had an extraordinary effect on your personal communications ?
> > > > > > > > Dealbreaker i'm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So , with those words you're aiming for a reconciliation, Nic?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Found your passport yet?
> > > > > > yeah I do that too I kind of keep trying and trying to maintain the relationship and then it becomes obvious that it's doomed so then I lash out in horrible things against my conversational opponent and then that's it you know there's 8 million other people to go and have a conversation with you so it's absolutely no big thing right? Have a nice day.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Apple dictation keeps putting down million instead of billion it's really irritating.
> > > > > yeah, it's really hard for me to have a relationship because I just get irritated with people too easily and in this modern lobotomize sheep world we live in you get irritated at somebody they're just gone and if somebody stops communicating with you there's nothing on earth that can get them to communicate again because all they have to do is be lazy and not deal with you I thought of this one funny thing suppose your conversational opponent refuses to talk to you but then you find out information where they can get a kid needs to save their lives so you write to them about that they still won't contact you did rather die than contact you have a nice day I want my Dolly
> > > >
> > > > so what is the lesson learned? if you try to get your conversational opponent to establish a video link with you in order to reduce the possibility that they might be a scammer and that person refuses dont actually call that person a scammer because that ends the relationship immediately, what you should do is not call that person a scammer and then just wait and see if that person ever asks you for money , then the relationship is immediately over.
> > > Since you have found somebody to talk physics and computers with you, there seems no o alterior motive and write to comp.ai.philosophy.
> > >
> > > nope I have not found my passport and travelling to the states seems like a dumb idea.
> > well Nic that was a pretty low blow , your comments about my ex-wife , it really hurt .
> > Can I get the identity of your children because you know how evil I am I was thinking about selling them into white slavery .
> > I figure the relationship is destroyed so hell why not be vindictive like this?
> > Never form a relationship on the Internet , only with someone next-door..
> A relationship is like a delicate champagne glass ; drop it and if it breaks in two you can fix it ; drop it and if it falls into 1000 pieces you can't fix it , go out and find another champagne glass.


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On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:39:16 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 2:19:47 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:45:59 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 12:38:44 PM UTC-6, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:27:05 PM UTC, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:04:01 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 10:20:50 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:46:22 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:31:21 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 1:46:23 PM UTC-6, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:56:31 AM UTC, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > uOn Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 9:45:10 AM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/28/2022 4:44 PM, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 12:33:32 PM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> On 11/28/2022 11:51 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 18:31:28 UTC+1, _ Olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> On 11/28/2022 3:46 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 01:20:41 UTC+1, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> "Gödel sentence in the 1931 incompleteness proof
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> is not a truth bearer thus simply untrue"
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Prove it... Moron.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Moron.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Corollary: model theory my ass.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> *Here is how Wittgenstein ties to model theory*
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> There is how you quote Wittgenstein *out of context*,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> to make him say the exact opposite of what he said.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> You bloody troll and spammer.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> *Plonk*
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Julio
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> When I provide word-for-word everything that Wittgenstein said I am
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> providing the complete context. https://www.liarparadox.org/Wittgenstein.pdf
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> I know that Wittgenstein is correct because I formulated his entire
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> rebuttal shortly before I ever heard of him.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Incomplete(T) ↔ ∃φ ((T ⊬ φ) ∧ (T ⊬ ¬φ))
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> It is common knowledge that the above definition correctly formalizes
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> the notion of incompleteness.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> What is not common knowledge is that every self-contradictory expression
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> of language fulfills the above logic sentence.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Copyright 2022 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you heard of Wittgenstein's poker?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It was a card game he was involved in.
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj5omcY21bE
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > Copyright 2022 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> > > > > > > > > > > > hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> > > > > > > > > > > OMG it wasn't about a card game at all it was about a philosophical argument not an intellectual argument but one that could have resulted in a philosopher with a red hot post poker driven into his eye
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > have a nice day
> > > > > > > > > > Don old chap, these men are serious researchers, quit disturbing them I plea, they could just discover something extraordinarily significant....and whilenI'm here how much did your ex-missus swindle from you, its had an extraordinary effect on your personal communications ?
> > > > > > > > > Dealbreaker i'm
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So , with those words you're aiming for a reconciliation, Nic?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Found your passport yet?
> > > > > > > yeah I do that too I kind of keep trying and trying to maintain the relationship and then it becomes obvious that it's doomed so then I lash out in horrible things against my conversational opponent and then that's it you know there's 8 million other people to go and have a conversation with you so it's absolutely no big thing right? Have a nice day.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Apple dictation keeps putting down million instead of billion it's really irritating.
> > > > > > yeah, it's really hard for me to have a relationship because I just get irritated with people too easily and in this modern lobotomize sheep world we live in you get irritated at somebody they're just gone and if somebody stops communicating with you there's nothing on earth that can get them to communicate again because all they have to do is be lazy and not deal with you I thought of this one funny thing suppose your conversational opponent refuses to talk to you but then you find out information where they can get a kid needs to save their lives so you write to them about that they still won't contact you did rather die than contact you have a nice day I want my Dolly
> > > > >
> > > > > so what is the lesson learned? if you try to get your conversational opponent to establish a video link with you in order to reduce the possibility that they might be a scammer and that person refuses dont actually call that person a scammer because that ends the relationship immediately, what you should do is not call that person a scammer and then just wait and see if that person ever asks you for money , then the relationship is immediately over.
> > > > Since you have found somebody to talk physics and computers with you, there seems no o alterior motive and write to comp.ai.philosophy.
> > > >
> > > > nope I have not found my passport and travelling to the states seems like a dumb idea.
> > > well Nic that was a pretty low blow , your comments about my ex-wife , it really hurt .
> > > Can I get the identity of your children because you know how evil I am I was thinking about selling them into white slavery .
> > > I figure the relationship is destroyed so hell why not be vindictive like this?
> > > Never form a relationship on the Internet , only with someone next-door.
> > A relationship is like a delicate champagne glass ; drop it and if it breaks in two you can fix it ; drop it and if it falls into 1000 pieces you can't fix it , go out and find another champagne glass.
> Actually , the way I look at it people are fortunate to be rid of me because of the jerk I am.


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 by: Don Stockbauer - Sun, 18 Dec 2022 05:25 UTC

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 8:50:35 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:39:16 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 2:19:47 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:45:59 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 12:38:44 PM UTC-6, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:27:05 PM UTC, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:04:01 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 10:20:50 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:46:22 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:31:21 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 1:46:23 PM UTC-6, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:56:31 AM UTC, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > uOn Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 9:45:10 AM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/28/2022 4:44 PM, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 12:33:32 PM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On 11/28/2022 11:51 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 18:31:28 UTC+1, _ Olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> On 11/28/2022 3:46 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 01:20:41 UTC+1, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> "Gödel sentence in the 1931 incompleteness proof
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> is not a truth bearer thus simply untrue"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Prove it... Moron.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Moron.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Corollary: model theory my ass.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> *Here is how Wittgenstein ties to model theory*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> There is how you quote Wittgenstein *out of context*,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> to make him say the exact opposite of what he said.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> You bloody troll and spammer.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> *Plonk*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Julio
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> When I provide word-for-word everything that Wittgenstein said I am
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> providing the complete context. https://www.liarparadox.org/Wittgenstein.pdf
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I know that Wittgenstein is correct because I formulated his entire
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> rebuttal shortly before I ever heard of him.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Incomplete(T) ↔ ∃φ ((T ⊬ φ) ∧ (T ⊬ ¬φ))
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> It is common knowledge that the above definition correctly formalizes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> the notion of incompleteness.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> What is not common knowledge is that every self-contradictory expression
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> of language fulfills the above logic sentence.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Copyright 2022 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you heard of Wittgenstein's poker?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was a card game he was involved in.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj5omcY21bE
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Copyright 2022 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> > > > > > > > > > > > > hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> > > > > > > > > > > > OMG it wasn't about a card game at all it was about a philosophical argument not an intellectual argument but one that could have resulted in a philosopher with a red hot post poker driven into his eye
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > have a nice day
> > > > > > > > > > > Don old chap, these men are serious researchers, quit disturbing them I plea, they could just discover something extraordinarily significant....and whilenI'm here how much did your ex-missus swindle from you, its had an extraordinary effect on your personal communications ?
> > > > > > > > > > Dealbreaker i'm
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So , with those words you're aiming for a reconciliation, Nic?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Found your passport yet?
> > > > > > > > yeah I do that too I kind of keep trying and trying to maintain the relationship and then it becomes obvious that it's doomed so then I lash out in horrible things against my conversational opponent and then that's it you know there's 8 million other people to go and have a conversation with you so it's absolutely no big thing right? Have a nice day.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The Apple dictation keeps putting down million instead of billion it's really irritating.
> > > > > > > yeah, it's really hard for me to have a relationship because I just get irritated with people too easily and in this modern lobotomize sheep world we live in you get irritated at somebody they're just gone and if somebody stops communicating with you there's nothing on earth that can get them to communicate again because all they have to do is be lazy and not deal with you I thought of this one funny thing suppose your conversational opponent refuses to talk to you but then you find out information where they can get a kid needs to save their lives so you write to them about that they still won't contact you did rather die than contact you have a nice day I want my Dolly
> > > > > >
> > > > > > so what is the lesson learned? if you try to get your conversational opponent to establish a video link with you in order to reduce the possibility that they might be a scammer and that person refuses dont actually call that person a scammer because that ends the relationship immediately, what you should do is not call that person a scammer and then just wait and see if that person ever asks you for money , then the relationship is immediately over.
> > > > > Since you have found somebody to talk physics and computers with you, there seems no o alterior motive and write to comp.ai.philosophy.
> > > > >
> > > > > nope I have not found my passport and travelling to the states seems like a dumb idea.
> > > > well Nic that was a pretty low blow , your comments about my ex-wife , it really hurt .
> > > > Can I get the identity of your children because you know how evil I am I was thinking about selling them into white slavery .
> > > > I figure the relationship is destroyed so hell why not be vindictive like this?
> > > > Never form a relationship on the Internet , only with someone next-door.
> > > A relationship is like a delicate champagne glass ; drop it and if it breaks in two you can fix it ; drop it and if it falls into 1000 pieces you can't fix it , go out and find another champagne glass.
> > Actually , the way I look at it people are fortunate to be rid of me because of the jerk I am.
> actually , most people just go ahead and block me to make sure that I can no longer communicate with them.


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On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 11:25:45 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 8:50:35 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:39:16 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 2:19:47 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:45:59 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 12:38:44 PM UTC-6, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:27:05 PM UTC, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:04:01 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 10:20:50 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:46:22 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:31:21 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 1:46:23 PM UTC-6, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:56:31 AM UTC, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > uOn Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 9:45:10 AM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/28/2022 4:44 PM, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 12:33:32 PM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On 11/28/2022 11:51 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 18:31:28 UTC+1, _ Olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> On 11/28/2022 3:46 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 01:20:41 UTC+1, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> "Gödel sentence in the 1931 incompleteness proof
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> is not a truth bearer thus simply untrue"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Prove it... Moron.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Moron.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Corollary: model theory my ass.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> *Here is how Wittgenstein ties to model theory*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> There is how you quote Wittgenstein *out of context*,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> to make him say the exact opposite of what he said.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> You bloody troll and spammer.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> *Plonk*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Julio
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> When I provide word-for-word everything that Wittgenstein said I am
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> providing the complete context. https://www.liarparadox.org/Wittgenstein.pdf
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I know that Wittgenstein is correct because I formulated his entire
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> rebuttal shortly before I ever heard of him.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Incomplete(T) ↔ ∃φ ((T ⊬ φ) ∧ (T ⊬ ¬φ))
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> It is common knowledge that the above definition correctly formalizes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> the notion of incompleteness.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> What is not common knowledge is that every self-contradictory expression
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> of language fulfills the above logic sentence.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Copyright 2022 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you heard of Wittgenstein's poker?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was a card game he was involved in.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj5omcY21bE
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Copyright 2022 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > OMG it wasn't about a card game at all it was about a philosophical argument not an intellectual argument but one that could have resulted in a philosopher with a red hot post poker driven into his eye
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > have a nice day
> > > > > > > > > > > > Don old chap, these men are serious researchers, quit disturbing them I plea, they could just discover something extraordinarily significant....and whilenI'm here how much did your ex-missus swindle from you, its had an extraordinary effect on your personal communications ?
> > > > > > > > > > > Dealbreaker i'm
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So , with those words you're aiming for a reconciliation, Nic?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Found your passport yet?
> > > > > > > > > yeah I do that too I kind of keep trying and trying to maintain the relationship and then it becomes obvious that it's doomed so then I lash out in horrible things against my conversational opponent and then that's it you know there's 8 million other people to go and have a conversation with you so it's absolutely no big thing right? Have a nice day.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The Apple dictation keeps putting down million instead of billion it's really irritating.
> > > > > > > > yeah, it's really hard for me to have a relationship because I just get irritated with people too easily and in this modern lobotomize sheep world we live in you get irritated at somebody they're just gone and if somebody stops communicating with you there's nothing on earth that can get them to communicate again because all they have to do is be lazy and not deal with you I thought of this one funny thing suppose your conversational opponent refuses to talk to you but then you find out information where they can get a kid needs to save their lives so you write to them about that they still won't contact you did rather die than contact you have a nice day I want my Dolly
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > so what is the lesson learned? if you try to get your conversational opponent to establish a video link with you in order to reduce the possibility that they might be a scammer and that person refuses dont actually call that person a scammer because that ends the relationship immediately, what you should do is not call that person a scammer and then just wait and see if that person ever asks you for money , then the relationship is immediately over.
> > > > > > Since you have found somebody to talk physics and computers with you, there seems no o alterior motive and write to comp.ai.philosophy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > nope I have not found my passport and travelling to the states seems like a dumb idea.
> > > > > well Nic that was a pretty low blow , your comments about my ex-wife , it really hurt .
> > > > > Can I get the identity of your children because you know how evil I am I was thinking about selling them into white slavery .
> > > > > I figure the relationship is destroyed so hell why not be vindictive like this?
> > > > > Never form a relationship on the Internet , only with someone next-door.
> > > > A relationship is like a delicate champagne glass ; drop it and if it breaks in two you can fix it ; drop it and if it falls into 1000 pieces you can't fix it , go out and find another champagne glass.
> > > Actually , the way I look at it people are fortunate to be rid of me because of the jerk I am.
> > actually , most people just go ahead and block me to make sure that I can no longer communicate with them.
> I wonder if it's better just to remain silent in trying circumstances?
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 by: Don Stockbauer - Sun, 18 Dec 2022 06:00 UTC

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 11:25:45 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 8:50:35 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:39:16 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 2:19:47 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 7:45:59 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 12:38:44 PM UTC-6, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:27:05 PM UTC, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:04:01 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 10:20:50 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:46:22 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:31:21 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 1:46:23 PM UTC-6, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:56:31 AM UTC, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > uOn Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 9:45:10 AM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/28/2022 4:44 PM, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 12:33:32 PM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On 11/28/2022 11:51 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 18:31:28 UTC+1, _ Olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> On 11/28/2022 3:46 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 01:20:41 UTC+1, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> "Gödel sentence in the 1931 incompleteness proof
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> is not a truth bearer thus simply untrue"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Prove it... Moron.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Moron.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Corollary: model theory my ass.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> *Here is how Wittgenstein ties to model theory*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> There is how you quote Wittgenstein *out of context*,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> to make him say the exact opposite of what he said.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> You bloody troll and spammer.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> *Plonk*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Julio
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> When I provide word-for-word everything that Wittgenstein said I am
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> providing the complete context. https://www.liarparadox.org/Wittgenstein.pdf
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I know that Wittgenstein is correct because I formulated his entire
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> rebuttal shortly before I ever heard of him.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Incomplete(T) ↔ ∃φ ((T ⊬ φ) ∧ (T ⊬ ¬φ))
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> It is common knowledge that the above definition correctly formalizes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> the notion of incompleteness.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> What is not common knowledge is that every self-contradictory expression
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> of language fulfills the above logic sentence.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Copyright 2022 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you heard of Wittgenstein's poker?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was a card game he was involved in.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj5omcY21bE
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Copyright 2022 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > OMG it wasn't about a card game at all it was about a philosophical argument not an intellectual argument but one that could have resulted in a philosopher with a red hot post poker driven into his eye
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > have a nice day
> > > > > > > > > > > > Don old chap, these men are serious researchers, quit disturbing them I plea, they could just discover something extraordinarily significant....and whilenI'm here how much did your ex-missus swindle from you, its had an extraordinary effect on your personal communications ?
> > > > > > > > > > > Dealbreaker i'm
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So , with those words you're aiming for a reconciliation, Nic?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Found your passport yet?
> > > > > > > > > yeah I do that too I kind of keep trying and trying to maintain the relationship and then it becomes obvious that it's doomed so then I lash out in horrible things against my conversational opponent and then that's it you know there's 8 million other people to go and have a conversation with you so it's absolutely no big thing right? Have a nice day.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The Apple dictation keeps putting down million instead of billion it's really irritating.
> > > > > > > > yeah, it's really hard for me to have a relationship because I just get irritated with people too easily and in this modern lobotomize sheep world we live in you get irritated at somebody they're just gone and if somebody stops communicating with you there's nothing on earth that can get them to communicate again because all they have to do is be lazy and not deal with you I thought of this one funny thing suppose your conversational opponent refuses to talk to you but then you find out information where they can get a kid needs to save their lives so you write to them about that they still won't contact you did rather die than contact you have a nice day I want my Dolly
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > so what is the lesson learned? if you try to get your conversational opponent to establish a video link with you in order to reduce the possibility that they might be a scammer and that person refuses dont actually call that person a scammer because that ends the relationship immediately, what you should do is not call that person a scammer and then just wait and see if that person ever asks you for money , then the relationship is immediately over.
> > > > > > Since you have found somebody to talk physics and computers with you, there seems no o alterior motive and write to comp.ai.philosophy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > nope I have not found my passport and travelling to the states seems like a dumb idea.
> > > > > well Nic that was a pretty low blow , your comments about my ex-wife , it really hurt .
> > > > > Can I get the identity of your children because you know how evil I am I was thinking about selling them into white slavery .
> > > > > I figure the relationship is destroyed so hell why not be vindictive like this?
> > > > > Never form a relationship on the Internet , only with someone next-door.
> > > > A relationship is like a delicate champagne glass ; drop it and if it breaks in two you can fix it ; drop it and if it falls into 1000 pieces you can't fix it , go out and find another champagne glass.
> > > Actually , the way I look at it people are fortunate to be rid of me because of the jerk I am.
> > actually , most people just go ahead and block me to make sure that I can no longer communicate with them.
> I wonder if it's better just to remain silent in trying circumstances?


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 by: Artist (nickis jobse - Sun, 18 Dec 2022 19:11 UTC

On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 6:38:44 PM UTC, Artist wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:27:05 PM UTC, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:04:01 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 10:20:50 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:46:22 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:31:21 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 1:46:23 PM UTC-6, jobsearc....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:56:31 AM UTC, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > uOn Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 9:45:10 AM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On 11/28/2022 4:44 PM, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 12:33:32 PM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> On 11/28/2022 11:51 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 18:31:28 UTC+1, _ Olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> On 11/28/2022 3:46 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 01:20:41 UTC+1, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> "Gödel sentence in the 1931 incompleteness proof
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> is not a truth bearer thus simply untrue"
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> Prove it... Moron.
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> Moron.
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> Corollary: model theory my ass.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > >>>> *Here is how Wittgenstein ties to model theory*
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> There is how you quote Wittgenstein *out of context*,
> > > > > > > > > >>> to make him say the exact opposite of what he said.
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> You bloody troll and spammer.
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> *Plonk*
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> Julio
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> When I provide word-for-word everything that Wittgenstein said I am
> > > > > > > > > >> providing the complete context. https://www.liarparadox.org/Wittgenstein.pdf
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> I know that Wittgenstein is correct because I formulated his entire
> > > > > > > > > >> rebuttal shortly before I ever heard of him.
> > > > > > > > > >> Incomplete(T) ↔ ∃φ ((T ⊬ φ) ∧ (T ⊬ ¬φ))
> > > > > > > > > >> It is common knowledge that the above definition correctly formalizes
> > > > > > > > > >> the notion of incompleteness.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> What is not common knowledge is that every self-contradictory expression
> > > > > > > > > >> of language fulfills the above logic sentence.
> > > > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > > > >> Copyright 2022 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> > > > > > > > > >> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Have you heard of Wittgenstein's poker?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It was a card game he was involved in.
> > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj5omcY21bE
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Copyright 2022 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> > > > > > > > > hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> > > > > > > > OMG it wasn't about a card game at all it was about a philosophical argument not an intellectual argument but one that could have resulted in a philosopher with a red hot post poker driven into his eye
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > have a nice day
> > > > > > > Don old chap, these men are serious researchers, quit disturbing them I plea, they could just discover something extraordinarily significant....and whilenI'm here how much did your ex-missus swindle from you, its had an extraordinary effect on your personal communications ?
> > > > > > Dealbreaker i'm
> > > > >
> > > > > So , with those words you're aiming for a reconciliation, Nic?
> > > > >
> > > > > Found your passport yet?
> > > > yeah I do that too I kind of keep trying and trying to maintain the relationship and then it becomes obvious that it's doomed so then I lash out in horrible things against my conversational opponent and then that's it you know there's 8 million other people to go and have a conversation with you so it's absolutely no big thing right? Have a nice day.
> > > >
> > > > The Apple dictation keeps putting down million instead of billion it's really irritating.
> > > yeah, it's really hard for me to have a relationship because I just get irritated with people too easily and in this modern lobotomize sheep world we live in you get irritated at somebody they're just gone and if somebody stops communicating with you there's nothing on earth that can get them to communicate again because all they have to do is be lazy and not deal with you I thought of this one funny thing suppose your conversational opponent refuses to talk to you but then you find out information where they can get a kid needs to save their lives so you write to them about that they still won't contact you did rather die than contact you have a nice day I want my Dolly
> >
> > so what is the lesson learned? if you try to get your conversational opponent to establish a video link with you in order to reduce the possibility that they might be a scammer and that person refuses dont actually call that person a scammer because that ends the relationship immediately, what you should do is not call that person a scammer and then just wait and see if that person ever asks you for money , then the relationship is immediately over.
> Since you have found somebody to talk physics and computers with you, there seems no o alterior motive and write to comp.ai.philosophy.
>
> nope I have not found my passport and travelling to the states seems like a dumb idea.
Don Stockbauer,
Cease your confabulations. I quit, as you know I'm married.

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 by: Don Stockbauer - Sun, 18 Dec 2022 21:14 UTC

On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 1:11:25 PM UTC-6, jobsearc...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 6:38:44 PM UTC, Artist wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:27:05 PM UTC, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:04:01 PM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 10:20:50 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:46:22 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:31:21 AM UTC-6, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 1:46:23 PM UTC-6, jobsearc....@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:56:31 AM UTC, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > uOn Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 9:45:10 AM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On 11/28/2022 4:44 PM, Don Stockbauer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 12:33:32 PM UTC-6, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >> On 11/28/2022 11:51 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 18:31:28 UTC+1, _ Olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> On 11/28/2022 3:46 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 01:20:41 UTC+1, olcott wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> "Gödel sentence in the 1931 incompleteness proof
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> is not a truth bearer thus simply untrue"
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Prove it... Moron.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Moron.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Corollary: model theory my ass.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>>> *Here is how Wittgenstein ties to model theory*
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> There is how you quote Wittgenstein *out of context*,
> > > > > > > > > > >>> to make him say the exact opposite of what he said.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> You bloody troll and spammer.
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> *Plonk*
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Julio
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> When I provide word-for-word everything that Wittgenstein said I am
> > > > > > > > > > >> providing the complete context. https://www.liarparadox.org/Wittgenstein.pdf
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> I know that Wittgenstein is correct because I formulated his entire
> > > > > > > > > > >> rebuttal shortly before I ever heard of him.
> > > > > > > > > > >> Incomplete(T) ↔ ∃φ ((T ⊬ φ) ∧ (T ⊬ ¬φ))
> > > > > > > > > > >> It is common knowledge that the above definition correctly formalizes
> > > > > > > > > > >> the notion of incompleteness.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> What is not common knowledge is that every self-contradictory expression
> > > > > > > > > > >> of language fulfills the above logic sentence.
> > > > > > > > > > >> --
> > > > > > > > > > >> Copyright 2022 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> > > > > > > > > > >> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Have you heard of Wittgenstein's poker?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It was a card game he was involved in.
> > > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj5omcY21bE
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Copyright 2022 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> > > > > > > > > > hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
> > > > > > > > > OMG it wasn't about a card game at all it was about a philosophical argument not an intellectual argument but one that could have resulted in a philosopher with a red hot post poker driven into his eye
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > have a nice day
> > > > > > > > Don old chap, these men are serious researchers, quit disturbing them I plea, they could just discover something extraordinarily significant....and whilenI'm here how much did your ex-missus swindle from you, its had an extraordinary effect on your personal communications ?
> > > > > > > Dealbreaker i'm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So , with those words you're aiming for a reconciliation, Nic?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Found your passport yet?
> > > > > yeah I do that too I kind of keep trying and trying to maintain the relationship and then it becomes obvious that it's doomed so then I lash out in horrible things against my conversational opponent and then that's it you know there's 8 million other people to go and have a conversation with you so it's absolutely no big thing right? Have a nice day.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Apple dictation keeps putting down million instead of billion it's really irritating.
> > > > yeah, it's really hard for me to have a relationship because I just get irritated with people too easily and in this modern lobotomize sheep world we live in you get irritated at somebody they're just gone and if somebody stops communicating with you there's nothing on earth that can get them to communicate again because all they have to do is be lazy and not deal with you I thought of this one funny thing suppose your conversational opponent refuses to talk to you but then you find out information where they can get a kid needs to save their lives so you write to them about that they still won't contact you did rather die than contact you have a nice day I want my Dolly
> > >
> > > so what is the lesson learned? if you try to get your conversational opponent to establish a video link with you in order to reduce the possibility that they might be a scammer and that person refuses dont actually call that person a scammer because that ends the relationship immediately, what you should do is not call that person a scammer and then just wait and see if that person ever asks you for money , then the relationship is immediately over.
> > Since you have found somebody to talk physics and computers with you, there seems no o alterior motive and write to comp.ai.philosophy.
> >
> > nope I have not found my passport and travelling to the states seems like a dumb idea.
> Don Stockbauer,
> Cease your confabulations. I quit, as you know I'm married.

You've always told me you are single but you must've gotten married here recently . Airing publicly my problems with my
ex-wife , demanding that I not post to comp.ai.philosophy, I guess 15 years of fun is over. I keep trying to write to you but you're unforgiving of the past. Oh well.

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