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 by: nospam - Sun, 16 Jan 2022 23:46 UTC

In article <Uv-dnTzOcZSTM3n8nZ2dnUU7-eOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> > > But the size of the transferred files can also be another reason not to
> > > lazily transfer everything ... especially these days where Apple is now
> > > using internal SSDs instead of hard drives (trying to transfer a 1TB
> > > hard drive to a 256GB SSD is going to be "difficult", even excluding
> > > the actual OS system files).
>
> > anyone who buys a mac with 256gb ssd when they have 1tb to copy has
> > only themselves to blame.
>
> > the largest capacity is currently 8tb. it's not cheap, but some people
> > do want that much internal storage.
>
> Yeah especially from huge internal HDDs to tiny SSDs. :/

they're not that tiny anymore. macbook pros start at 512gb.

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 by: Ant - Mon, 17 Jan 2022 05:33 UTC

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <Uv-dnT3OcZR-MHn8nZ2dnUU7-eOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
> <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> > > > Don't forget Apple's Migration Assistant can be run after you're up and
> > > > running.
> >
> > > it can, but that's almost always a very bad idea.
> >
> > Why is a very bad idea? I never had issues. I just don't copy everything.

> it will create a new account, causing a mismatch in user ids.

Interesting. I migrated the old non-admin (made a new admin account to
start clean) accounts over and haven't seen any errors? When do the
issues come up?

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 by: Ant - Mon, 17 Jan 2022 05:44 UTC

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <Uv-dnTzOcZSTM3n8nZ2dnUU7-eOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
> <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> > > > But the size of the transferred files can also be another reason not to
> > > > lazily transfer everything ... especially these days where Apple is now
> > > > using internal SSDs instead of hard drives (trying to transfer a 1TB
> > > > hard drive to a 256GB SSD is going to be "difficult", even excluding
> > > > the actual OS system files).
> >
> > > anyone who buys a mac with 256gb ssd when they have 1tb to copy has
> > > only themselves to blame.
> >
> > > the largest capacity is currently 8tb. it's not cheap, but some people
> > > do want that much internal storage.
> >
> > Yeah especially from huge internal HDDs to tiny SSDs. :/

> they're not that tiny anymore. macbook pros start at 512gb.

Still too small IMO. :P
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 by: nospam - Mon, 17 Jan 2022 10:26 UTC

In article <ivudneQSsYLdn3j8nZ2dnUU7-L2dnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

> > > Yeah especially from huge internal HDDs to tiny SSDs. :/
>
> > they're not that tiny anymore. macbook pros start at 512gb.
>
> Still too small IMO. :P

the largest is currently 8tb. it's not cheap.

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 by: Dr Eberhard Lisse - Tue, 18 Jan 2022 09:08 UTC

Jim,

I did something similar, and encountered an issue because the
backups/machines did not have exactly the same MacOs versions. Once
that was done, no drama.

el

On 15/01/2022 15:23, Jim_Higgins wrote:
> I willl be buying a new M-1 24" Silver iMac and doing the data
> transfer at home from a full Time Machine Backup of the old Mac to the
> new one. Apple Care+.
>
> There are two accessories I was looking at: "Thunderbolt 3 (USB‑C)
> Cable (0.8 m)" and "Thunderbolt 3 (USB‑C) to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter".
> How useful would these two be?
>
> Has anyone had any problems doing this or do you have suggestions on
> how I should go about this?
>
> Thank you.

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 by: Dr Eberhard Lisse - Tue, 18 Jan 2022 09:16 UTC

The issue can come up when you install your new computer and use the
same user name as on the old one.

So, when setting up the new one I usually create a temporary account and
bang the other stuff from the old one more or less totally.

It may work properly if you only restore some stuff from the old
machine's account, but, see above.

There is absolutely nothing wrong to once in a while install a machine
from scratch and update your handbook (if any :-)-O) while you are doing
it so you keep up with changes. Patience is a virtue :-)-O

greetings, el

On 17/01/2022 07:33, Ant wrote:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <Uv-dnT3OcZR-MHn8nZ2dnUU7-eOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
>> <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>
>>>>> Don't forget Apple's Migration Assistant can be run after you're
>>>>> up and running.
>>>
>>>> it can, but that's almost always a very bad idea.
>>>
>>> Why is a very bad idea? I never had issues. I just don't copy
>>> everything.
>
>> it will create a new account, causing a mismatch in user ids.
>
> Interesting. I migrated the old non-admin (made a new admin account
> to start clean) accounts over and haven't seen any errors? When do
> the issues come up?
>

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 by: Dr Eberhard Lisse - Tue, 18 Jan 2022 09:18 UTC

My M1 Airbook has 2TB which is quite enough for my travels :-)-O

el

On 17/01/2022 07:44, Ant wrote:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
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>> they're not that tiny anymore. macbook pros start at 512gb.
>
> Still too small IMO. :P

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