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* The VPN empire built by intelligence agentsNomen Nescio
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Subject: The VPN empire built by intelligence agents
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 by: Stefan Claas - Sat, 23 Oct 2021 16:29 UTC

On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 4:48:21 PM UTC+2, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> <https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-22-the-vpn-empire-built-by-intelligence-agents.html>

I have no problems with that *if* the Intelligence Community does *not* hand over
*our* data usage to politicians.

Regards
Stefan

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 by: D - Sat, 23 Oct 2021 18:31 UTC

On Sat, 23 Oct 2021 09:29:36 -0700 (PDT), Stefan Claas <spam.trap.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>I have no problems with that *if* the Intelligence Community does *not* hand over
>*our* data usage to politicians.

"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers."
--Dick the Butcher, Henry VI, Part II, Act IV, Scene 2

William Shakespeare was born to John & Mary Arden-Shakespeare at their
home in Stratford-upon-Avon (now museum on Henley Street, Warwickshire
1W42:30,52N11:39), tradition holds on St George's Day, Sunday April 23,
1564, ante meridiem (baptismal record of 26th, time of birth unsourced).

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 by: Nomen Nescio - Sun, 24 Oct 2021 03:42 UTC

In article <5d9778de-5688-4096-b402-
28adac274dd4n@googlegroups.com>
Stefan Claas <spam.trap.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 4:48:21 PM UTC+2, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > <https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-22-the-vpn-empire-built-by-intelligence-agents.html>
>
> I have no problems with that *if* the Intelligence Community does *not* hand over
> *our* data usage to politicians.

Unfortunately that will not be the case. Huawei is one of the
worst offenders at outing users.

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On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 05:42:37 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>Huawei is one of the worst offenders at outing users

"We had salt to cook with so we were considered wealthy"

Ren Zhengfei was born to Ren Musheng(Moxun) & Cheng Yuanzhao at their
home near Huangguoshu Waterfall(105E40:12,25N59:15), Zhenning, Anshun
Guizhou, China, on Wednesday 25 October 1944 at 4:12 AM(AA/HR, B/bio).

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 by: Stefan Claas - Sun, 24 Oct 2021 07:17 UTC

On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 5:42:39 AM UTC+2, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> In article <5d9778de-5688-4096-b402-
> 28adac...@googlegroups.com>
> Stefan Claas <spam.tra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 4:48:21 PM UTC+2, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > > <https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-22-the-vpn-empire-built-by-intelligence-agents.html>
> >
> > I have no problems with that *if* the Intelligence Community does *not* hand over
> > *our* data usage to politicians.
> Unfortunately that will not be the case. Huawei is one of the
> worst offenders at outing users.

President Trump signed an Executive Order about Huawei's G5 Network Technology
and Google IIRC did not allow Huawei to use its PlayStore.

Bruce Schneier wrote also once in his blog about G5 security.

Has anything changed in this regard since Biden is in office?

Regards
Stefan

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 by: secure@cedj.org - Sun, 24 Oct 2021 11:41 UTC

>
> On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 5:42:39 AM UTC+2, Nomen Nescio
wrote:
>
>> In article <5d9778de-5688-4096-b402-
>> 28adac...@googlegroups.com>
>> Stefan Claas <spam.tra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 4:48:21 PM UTC+2, Nomen Nescio
wrote:
>>>> <https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-22-the-vpn-empire-built-
by-intelligence-agents.html>
>>>
>>> I have no problems with that *if* the Intelligence Community
does *not* hand over
>>> *our* data usage to politicians.
>> Unfortunately that will not be the case. Huawei is one of the
>> worst offenders at outing users.
>
> President Trump signed an Executive Order about Huawei's G5
Network Technology
> and Google IIRC did not allow Huawei to use its PlayStore.
>
> Bruce Schneier wrote also once in his blog about G5 security.
>
> Has anything changed in this regard since Biden is in office?
>
I don't know if the murderer Biden has done anything about G5, but
if he does, he will do whatever best destroys America and the world.

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In article <c7ed2391-62a5-4d6d-a7e1-
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Stefan Claas <spam.trap.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 5:42:39 AM UTC+2, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > In article <5d9778de-5688-4096-b402-
> > 28adac...@googlegroups.com>
> > Stefan Claas <spam.tra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 4:48:21 PM UTC+2, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > > > <https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-22-the-vpn-empire-built-by-intelligence-agents.html>
> > >
> > > I have no problems with that *if* the Intelligence Community does *not* hand over
> > > *our* data usage to politicians.
> > Unfortunately that will not be the case. Huawei is one of the
> > worst offenders at outing users.
>
> President Trump signed an Executive Order about Huawei's G5 Network Technology
> and Google IIRC did not allow Huawei to use its PlayStore.
>
> Bruce Schneier wrote also once in his blog about G5 security.
>
> Has anything changed in this regard since Biden is in office?

Not so far.

WASHINGTON, Sept 21 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden's
nominee to a post overseeing export policy on China said on
Tuesday he sees Chinese telecoms firm Huawei (HWT.UL) as a
national security threat and expects to keep the company on a
trade blacklist unless "things change."

If confirmed as Under Secretary of Commerce for Industry and
Security, former Pentagon official Alan Estevez also pledged to
"look at" Honor Device Co - a handset unit spun off of Huawei -
to see whether the telecommunications company was using the
spinoff brand to minimize or circumvent its own blacklist
designation.

https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/biden-nominee-key-
china-export-post-expects-huawei-remain-blacklisted-2021-09-21/

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In article <c7ed2391-62a5-4d6d-a7e1-
804bad420a6fn@googlegroups.com>
Stefan Claas <spam.trap.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 5:42:39 AM UTC+2, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > In article <5d9778de-5688-4096-b402-
> > 28adac...@googlegroups.com>
> > Stefan Claas <spam.tra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 4:48:21 PM UTC+2, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > > > <https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-22-the-vpn-empire-built-by-intelligence-agents.html>
> > >
> > > I have no problems with that *if* the Intelligence Community does *not* hand over
> > > *our* data usage to politicians.
> > Unfortunately that will not be the case. Huawei is one of the
> > worst offenders at outing users.
>
> President Trump signed an Executive Order about Huawei's G5 Network Technology
> and Google IIRC did not allow Huawei to use its PlayStore.
>
> Bruce Schneier wrote also once in his blog about G5 security.
>
> Has anything changed in this regard since Biden is in office?

Who knows? If Hunter goes to China and collects a bag of money,
it might.

I used to work for a company as a sniffer years ago. We were
hired to capture traffic from Huawei equipment over a period of
six months. It was quite the technical network project. The
packet captures were stored on a pair of EMA12000s.

The exact parameters were provided by a team who we suspected
were from a major network OEM. They were very specific about
what traffic they wanted to capture and it took a week of
testing to fine tune requirements.

It was clear that they were compiling independently captured
evidence of the Huawei equipment leaking traffic it shouldn't
based on configuration and access lists. The data didn't look
like much but it wasn't our place to do anything except capture
packets when the team enabled a route out of the network with
Internet access.

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 by: Stefan Claas - Tue, 26 Oct 2021 12:05 UTC

On Tuesday, October 26, 2021 at 10:42:41 AM UTC+2, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote:
> In article <c7ed2391-62a5-4d6d-a7e1-
> 804bad...@googlegroups.com>
> Stefan Claas <spam.tra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 5:42:39 AM UTC+2, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > > In article <5d9778de-5688-4096-b402-
> > > 28adac...@googlegroups.com>
> > > Stefan Claas <spam.tra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 4:48:21 PM UTC+2, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > > > > <https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-22-the-vpn-empire-built-by-intelligence-agents.html>
> > > >
> > > > I have no problems with that *if* the Intelligence Community does *not* hand over
> > > > *our* data usage to politicians.
> > > Unfortunately that will not be the case. Huawei is one of the
> > > worst offenders at outing users.
> >
> > President Trump signed an Executive Order about Huawei's G5 Network Technology
> > and Google IIRC did not allow Huawei to use its PlayStore.
> >
> > Bruce Schneier wrote also once in his blog about G5 security.
> >
> > Has anything changed in this regard since Biden is in office?
> Not so far.

Ah, good. I did just a quick look at how this is currently handled
internationally.

<https://www.channele2e.com/business/enterprise/huawei-banned-in-which-countries/>

> WASHINGTON, Sept 21 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden's
> nominee to a post overseeing export policy on China said on
> Tuesday he sees Chinese telecoms firm Huawei (HWT.UL) as a
> national security threat and expects to keep the company on a
> trade blacklist unless "things change."
>
> If confirmed as Under Secretary of Commerce for Industry and
> Security, former Pentagon official Alan Estevez also pledged to
> "look at" Honor Device Co - a handset unit spun off of Huawei -
> to see whether the telecommunications company was using the
> spinoff brand to minimize or circumvent its own blacklist
> designation.
>
> https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/biden-nominee-key-
> china-export-post-expects-huawei-remain-blacklisted-2021-09-21/

Thanks for the info.

Regards
Stefan

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On Tuesday, October 26, 2021 at 12:24:56 PM UTC+2, Anonymous wrote:
> In article <c7ed2391-62a5-4d6d-a7e1-
> 804bad...@googlegroups.com>
> Stefan Claas <spam.tra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 5:42:39 AM UTC+2, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > > In article <5d9778de-5688-4096-b402-
> > > 28adac...@googlegroups.com>
> > > Stefan Claas <spam.tra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday, October 23, 2021 at 4:48:21 PM UTC+2, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > > > > <https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-22-the-vpn-empire-built-by-intelligence-agents.html>
> > > >
> > > > I have no problems with that *if* the Intelligence Community does *not* hand over
> > > > *our* data usage to politicians.
> > > Unfortunately that will not be the case. Huawei is one of the
> > > worst offenders at outing users.
> >
> > President Trump signed an Executive Order about Huawei's G5 Network Technology
> > and Google IIRC did not allow Huawei to use its PlayStore.
> >
> > Bruce Schneier wrote also once in his blog about G5 security.
> >
> > Has anything changed in this regard since Biden is in office?
> Who knows? If Hunter goes to China and collects a bag of money,
> it might.

Hasn't Hunter changed his career path, i.e. becoming a traditional
painter (Artist)?
> I used to work for a company as a sniffer years ago. We were
> hired to capture traffic from Huawei equipment over a period of
> six months. It was quite the technical network project. The
> packet captures were stored on a pair of EMA12000s.
>
> The exact parameters were provided by a team who we suspected
> were from a major network OEM. They were very specific about
> what traffic they wanted to capture and it took a week of
> testing to fine tune requirements.
>
> It was clear that they were compiling independently captured
> evidence of the Huawei equipment leaking traffic it shouldn't
> based on configuration and access lists. The data didn't look
> like much but it wasn't our place to do anything except capture
> packets when the team enabled a route out of the network with
> Internet access.

Interesting. Thank you.

Regards
Stefan

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>
> Hasn't Hunter changed his career path, i.e. becoming a traditional
> painter (Artist)?

Hitler was a would be artist. He couldn't paint faces, so he was rejected by the art community.

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On Tuesday, October 26, 2021 at 6:32:56 PM UTC+2, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> >
> > Hasn't Hunter changed his career path, i.e. becoming a traditional
> > painter (Artist)?
> Hitler was a would be artist. He couldn't paint faces, so he was rejected by the art community.

Well, I guess this is relative ... If someone had an original Adolf and
would mint it as an NFT, I guess the person would make some bucks.
(and I do not consider NFTs as art ...)

Regards
Stefan

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On Tuesday, October 26, 2021 at 7:40:52 PM UTC+2, Stefan Claas wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 26, 2021 at 6:32:56 PM UTC+2, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > >
> > > Hasn't Hunter changed his career path, i.e. becoming a traditional
> > > painter (Artist)?
> > Hitler was a would be artist. He couldn't paint faces, so he was rejected by the art community.
> Well, I guess this is relative ... If someone had an original Adolf and
> would mint it as an NFT, I guess the person would make some bucks.
> (and I do not consider NFTs as art ...)

I just received an email from Donald Trump Jr.
with the Subject: Art for Patriots ... :-)

To bad that I currently can not order a copy because it is limited
to the United States and Canada when I check out. I have to write
an email to see if I and other patriots, outside the United States
can later order too.

https://raymondsimongallery.com/the-awakening/

Regards
Stefan

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