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* Re: Usb-c to usb-cAndy Burnelli
+* Re: Usb-c to usb-cAndy Burnelli
|`- Re: Usb-c to usb-cAndy Burnelli
+- Re: Usb-c to usb-cHank Rogers
`* Re: Usb-c to usb-cAlan
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  `- Re: Usb-c to usb-cAndy Burnelli

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Re: Usb-c to usb-c

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From: spa...@nospam.com (Andy Burnelli)
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Subject: Re: Usb-c to usb-c
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 by: Andy Burnelli - Thu, 5 May 2022 16:14 UTC

sms wrote:

> Of course very few of the people wearing wired headphones are using an
> FM radio since more than half were almost certainly on iPhones.

In the USA, roughly about half the smartphone owners are on each platform.
If they're listening to a recent iPhone, it won't be using standard wires.

Apple dropped that basic functionality so that you have to find some other
way to get what you had before Apple removed functionality from the iPhone.

> FM radio use on phones is certainly not widespread, but it's also not as
> rare as some people apparently believe.

The fact that FM radio is supplied with _most_ phones is an important fact.

What I observe about nospam is what everyone observes about what he does.
1. He _hates_ that Apple removed the basic wired-headphone functionality
2. So he makes up _excuses_ for why his beloved iPhone lacks functionality
3. One of those excuses is that he _fabricates_ his "opinion polls"

Just watch.
We who observe predict every move nospam makes, maybe even better than he.
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 by: Andy Burnelli - Thu, 5 May 2022 16:19 UTC

Andy Burnelli wrote:

> Apple dropped that basic functionality so that you have to find some other
> way to get what you had before Apple removed functionality from the iPhone.

Ooops. Before iKooks jump on that (because that's what they do), it's
likely Apple iPhones _never_ had the basic functionality of the FM radio.

However, the observation remains that the iKooks fabricate their "exit
polls" particularly in their doomed defense of the lack of iPhone
functionality.

The fact remains that _most_ phones have FM radio functionality.
The observation is that the iKooks _hate_ that fact.

Why?
Ask them why.
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 by: Andy Burnelli - Thu, 5 May 2022 16:24 UTC

Andy Burnelli wrote:

> The fact remains that _most_ phones have FM radio functionality.
> The observation is that the iKooks _hate_ that fact.

BTW, the observation is the iKooks _hate_ a lot of facts about phones.
It's not just FM radio functionality that iKooks hate that it exists.

For example, iKooks _hate_ the fact most new phones have huge batteries.
And the iKooks _hate_ the fact most phones come with chargers in the box.

Why do iKooks _hate_ those facts?
Ask them why.

Likewise, iKooks _hate_ the fact most phones have the 3.5mm jack.
And iKooks _hate_ the fact most phones have sdcard slots too.

The iKooks _hate_ the fact most phones can change their homescreen app.
The iKooks _hate_ the fact most apps re-install on _any_ phone.

The list goes on and on and on about functionality iKooks hate existing.

Why?
Ask them why.
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Why is it that the iKooks hate so much of what is basic functionality?

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 by: Hank Rogers - Thu, 5 May 2022 18:46 UTC

Andy Burnelli wrote:
> sms wrote:
>
>> Of course very few of the people wearing wired headphones are
>> using an FM radio since more than half were almost certainly on
>> iPhones.
>
> In the USA, roughly about half the smartphone owners are on each
> platform.
> If they're listening to a recent iPhone, it won't be using standard
> wires.
>
> Apple dropped that basic functionality so that you have to find
> some other
> way to get what you had before Apple removed functionality from the
> iPhone.
>
>> FM radio use on phones is certainly not widespread, but it's also
>> not as rare as some people apparently believe.
>
> The fact that FM radio is supplied with _most_ phones is an
> important fact.
>
> What I observe about nospam is what everyone observes about what he
> does.
> 1. He _hates_ that Apple removed the basic wired-headphone
> functionality
> 2. So he makes up _excuses_ for why his beloved iPhone lacks
> functionality
> 3. One of those excuses is that he _fabricates_ his "opinion polls"
>
> Just watch.
> We who observe predict every move nospam makes, maybe even better
> than he.

Man, you sure do a good job riding herd on all these juvenile
iKooks. Why do you love iKooks so much? Seems sort of kinky to me.

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 by: Alan - Thu, 5 May 2022 20:42 UTC

On 2022-05-05 9:14 a.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
> sms wrote:
>
>> Of course very few of the people wearing wired headphones are using an
>> FM radio since more than half were almost certainly on iPhones.
>
> In the USA, roughly about half the smartphone owners are on each platform.
> If they're listening to a recent iPhone, it won't be using standard wires.

I love the way you have to throw in those careful qualifiers.

What is the particular benefit of the wires being "standard".

>
> Apple dropped that basic functionality so that you have to find some other
> way to get what you had before Apple removed functionality from the iPhone.

Apple replaced the 3.5mm audio jack with a different way that lets you
have the same real functionality:

Plugging in earbuds/earphones.

>
>> FM radio use on phones is certainly not widespread, but it's also not
>> as rare as some people apparently believe.
>
> The fact that FM radio is supplied with _most_ phones is an important fact.

The fact is that a fact is a fact...

....without examining the fact that on many phones the FM radio isn't
actually supported.

Roughly 2500 phones currently available (or coming soon)...

....only 1500 of which have FM radio.

Is 3/5 really "most"?

>
> What I observe about nospam is what everyone observes about what he does.
> 1. He _hates_ that Apple removed the basic wired-headphone functionality

Why would he hate that?

> 2. So he makes up _excuses_ for why his beloved iPhone lacks functionality
> 3. One of those excuses is that he _fabricates_ his "opinion polls"
>
> Just watch.
> We who observe predict every move nospam makes, maybe even better than he.

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 by: nospam - Thu, 5 May 2022 22:25 UTC

In article <t51cs1$hjp$1@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> > Apple dropped that basic functionality so that you have to find some other
> > way to get what you had before Apple removed functionality from the iPhone.
>
> Apple replaced the 3.5mm audio jack with a different way that lets you
> have the same real functionality:

it actually has better functionality and with a more reliable connector.

many android device makers did the same, including google pixel,
samsung, oneplus and others. in other words, the major brands that sell
in quantity.

> Plugging in earbuds/earphones.

which is the same as before. the only difference is the shape of the
plug.

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 by: AJL - Thu, 5 May 2022 22:58 UTC

On 5/5/2022 3:25 PM, nospam wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>> Apple replaced the 3.5mm audio jack with a different way that lets you
>> have the same real functionality:

> it actually has better functionality and with a more reliable connector.

> many android device makers did the same, including google pixel,
> samsung, oneplus and others. in other words, the major brands that sell
> in quantity.

Same with my Lenovo IdeaPad Chrome OS tablet. No earphone or card holes.
Maybe it's because IdeaPad sounds like iPad... ;)

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Fri, 6 May 2022 03:24 UTC

nospam wrote:

>> Apple replaced the 3.5mm audio jack with a different way that lets you
>> have the same real functionality:
>
> it actually has better functionality and with a more reliable connector.

C'mon nospam. You can't fool everyone.

The only common factor in the basic industry standard functionality you
deplore... is Apple removed it (or never had it).

>> Plugging in earbuds/earphones.
>
> which is the same as before. the only difference is the shape of the
> plug.

You've still not answered the logical question of what you claim is the
lack of functionality in a phone that happens to have a 3.5mm jack.

What functionality can your phone _without_ the jack do that any phone
can't do that happens to have the jack (whether or not that jack is used)?
--
Why is it the iKooks come up with all sorts of fantastical excuses for why
they _hate_ what, to everyone else, is simple basic standard functionality?

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