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by: Paul R Schmidtbleich - Mon, 18 Mar 2024 20:16 UTC

Applied the current 18 March upgrades. Result is the New Plasma Stuff
destroyed my Login ability.
There are 4 reasons that says this "Theme" will not work. Screen says
select a new theme (Wayland, XM/ice, X11) the only ones offered - Not my
original one.
Both Wayland and X11 go to a total black screen on Ctrl-Alt-Delete
The X..ICE "Theme" gives a bare bones black screen with at least a type of
menu line at the bottom.

I want back my original screen and desktop which had wallpaper and various
icons for things on the screen.

I believe it was the "Plasma" stuff that messed things up
In the bare bone screen I get other stuff & programs are still there
Any suggestions .....
It is the login screen that appears to be adding touch-screen (Screen
Keyboard)

If no ready solutions . . .
If I reinstall from scratch, can I first save my Home directory and have
stuff there intact? Or will that mess up the fresh install?

Paul Schmidtbleicher

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by: Malcolm - Mon, 18 Mar 2024 20:24 UTC

On 18 Mar 2024 20:16:04 GMT
Paul R Schmidtbleicher <paulrs@foxinternet.net> wrote:

> Applied the current 18 March upgrades. Result is the New Plasma
> Stuff destroyed my Login ability.
> There are 4 reasons that says this "Theme" will not work. Screen
> says select a new theme (Wayland, XM/ice, X11) the only ones offered
> - Not my original one.
> Both Wayland and X11 go to a total black screen on Ctrl-Alt-Delete
> The X..ICE "Theme" gives a bare bones black screen with at least a
> type of menu line at the bottom.
>
> I want back my original screen and desktop which had wallpaper and
> various icons for things on the screen.
>
> I believe it was the "Plasma" stuff that messed things up
> In the bare bone screen I get other stuff & programs are still there
>
> Any suggestions .....
> It is the login screen that appears to be adding touch-screen (Screen
> Keyboard)
>
> If no ready solutions . . .
> If I reinstall from scratch, can I first save my Home directory and
> have stuff there intact? Or will that mess up the fresh install?
>
> Paul Schmidtbleicher
Hi Paul
Booting to multi-user.target or switch to a VT via crtl+alt+F1, login
as root and run systemctl isolate multi-user.target and re-run zypper
dup should help complete.

Check the Forum for the multitudes of Plasma 5->6 move threads...

--
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HP Z440 | Xeon E5-2695 V4 X36 @ 2.10GHz | Quadro T400/Tesla P4
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by: R Daneel Olivaw - Mon, 18 Mar 2024 20:26 UTC

Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:
> Applied the current 18 March upgrades. Result is the New Plasma Stuff
> destroyed my Login ability.
> There are 4 reasons that says this "Theme" will not work. Screen says
> select a new theme (Wayland, XM/ice, X11) the only ones offered - Not my
> original one.
> Both Wayland and X11 go to a total black screen on Ctrl-Alt-Delete
> The X..ICE "Theme" gives a bare bones black screen with at least a type of
> menu line at the bottom.
>
> I want back my original screen and desktop which had wallpaper and various
> icons for things on the screen.
>
> I believe it was the "Plasma" stuff that messed things up
> In the bare bone screen I get other stuff & programs are still there
>
> Any suggestions .....
> It is the login screen that appears to be adding touch-screen (Screen
> Keyboard)
>
> If no ready solutions . . .
> If I reinstall from scratch, can I first save my Home directory and have
> stuff there intact? Or will that mess up the fresh install?
>
> Paul Schmidtbleicher
>

What level? I have Leap 15.5 (KDE, X11), completely current and
everything is working normally. Something minor was installed this
morning - and I've just added the ghostscript update after reading your
post.
As it happens I also updated my test machine (same level and config) a
couple of hours ago, rebooting after the update and looking at a couple
of online videos. No problems at all. The ghostscript update was also
installed there so it is not as though there is something newer that
I've missed.

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by: R Daneel Olivaw - Mon, 18 Mar 2024 20:28 UTC

Malcolm wrote:
> On 18 Mar 2024 20:16:04 GMT
> Paul R Schmidtbleicher <paulrs@foxinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> Applied the current 18 March upgrades. Result is the New Plasma
>> Stuff destroyed my Login ability.
>> There are 4 reasons that says this "Theme" will not work. Screen
>> says select a new theme (Wayland, XM/ice, X11) the only ones offered
>> - Not my original one.
>> Both Wayland and X11 go to a total black screen on Ctrl-Alt-Delete
>> The X..ICE "Theme" gives a bare bones black screen with at least a
>> type of menu line at the bottom.
>>
>> I want back my original screen and desktop which had wallpaper and
>> various icons for things on the screen.
>>
>> I believe it was the "Plasma" stuff that messed things up
>> In the bare bone screen I get other stuff & programs are still there
>>
>> Any suggestions .....
>> It is the login screen that appears to be adding touch-screen (Screen
>> Keyboard)
>>
>> If no ready solutions . . .
>> If I reinstall from scratch, can I first save my Home directory and
>> have stuff there intact? Or will that mess up the fresh install?
>>
>> Paul Schmidtbleicher
> Hi Paul
> Booting to multi-user.target or switch to a VT via crtl+alt+F1, login
> as root and run systemctl isolate multi-user.target and re-run zypper
> dup should help complete.
>
> Check the Forum for the multitudes of Plasma 5->6 move threads...
>

That implies Tumbleweed.

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by: Paul R Schmidtbleich - Mon, 18 Mar 2024 20:51 UTC

On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 15:24:47 -0500, Malcolm wrote:

> On 18 Mar 2024 20:16:04 GMT Paul R Schmidtbleicher
> <paulrs@foxinternet.net> wrote:
>
>>> Paul Schmidtbleicher
> Hi Paul Booting to multi-user.target or switch to a VT via crtl+alt+F1,
> login as root and run systemctl isolate multi-user.target and re-run
> zypper dup should help complete.
>
> Check the Forum for the multitudes of Plasma 5->6 move threads...

I followed your directions. After <zypper dup> and a Reboot I get to my
regular login screen (Good sofar). I can login, but the desktop comes up
<iceWM> the barebones thing.

Any further instructions Please

Paul

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by: Malcolm - Mon, 18 Mar 2024 20:55 UTC

On 18 Mar 2024 20:51:53 GMT
Paul R Schmidtbleicher <paulrs@foxinternet.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 15:24:47 -0500, Malcolm wrote:
>
> > On 18 Mar 2024 20:16:04 GMT Paul R Schmidtbleicher
> > <paulrs@foxinternet.net> wrote:
> >
> >>> Paul Schmidtbleicher
> > Hi Paul Booting to multi-user.target or switch to a VT via
> > crtl+alt+F1, login as root and run systemctl isolate
> > multi-user.target and re-run zypper dup should help complete.
> >
> > Check the Forum for the multitudes of Plasma 5->6 move threads...
>
> I followed your directions. After <zypper dup> and a Reboot I get to
> my regular login screen (Good sofar). I can login, but the desktop
> comes up <iceWM> the barebones thing.
>
> Any further instructions Please
>
> Paul
Hi Paul
As you can see I'm not a Plasma user, but on the login screen, there
should be an option to select the desktop?

Like I indicated, peruse the Forum...

--
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by: Paul R Schmidtbleich - Mon, 18 Mar 2024 21:08 UTC

On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 15:55:51 -0500, Malcolm wrote:

> On 18 Mar 2024 20:51:53 GMT Paul R Schmidtbleicher
> <paulrs@foxinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> Any further instructions Please
>>
>> Paul
> Hi Paul As you can see I'm not a Plasma user, but on the login screen,
> there should be an option to select the desktop?
>
> Like I indicated, peruse the Forum...

Malcolm, I RISE UP TO CALL YOU BLESSED! THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!
The 3 Desktops offered were "Wayland, iceWM, & X11" I had it still set at
iceWM. I moved it back to Wayland and my good-old desktop appeared.
MUCH THANKS!!!

From what you advised, with a second <zypper dup> my guess is the first
one did not complete .....
Our whole town (Brewster WA) is being wired for Fiber, I just recently got
it, so there may have been some outages (???) until they finish the whole
town's installation.

Thanks again

Paul

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by: Malcolm - Mon, 18 Mar 2024 21:25 UTC

On 18 Mar 2024 21:08:30 GMT
Paul R Schmidtbleicher <paulrs@foxinternet.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 15:55:51 -0500, Malcolm wrote:
>
> > On 18 Mar 2024 20:51:53 GMT Paul R Schmidtbleicher
> > <paulrs@foxinternet.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Any further instructions Please
> >>
> >> Paul
> > Hi Paul As you can see I'm not a Plasma user, but on the login
> > screen, there should be an option to select the desktop?
> >
> > Like I indicated, peruse the Forum...
>
> Malcolm, I RISE UP TO CALL YOU BLESSED! THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK
> YOU! The 3 Desktops offered were "Wayland, iceWM, & X11" I had it
> still set at iceWM. I moved it back to Wayland and my good-old
> desktop appeared. MUCH THANKS!!!
>
> From what you advised, with a second <zypper dup> my guess is the
> first one did not complete .....
> Our whole town (Brewster WA) is being wired for Fiber, I just
> recently got it, so there may have been some outages (???) until they
> finish the whole town's installation.
>
> Thanks again
>
> Paul
>
Hi Paul
No, as advised on the openSUSE Tumbleweed portal, best to use screen
drop to a VT at multi-user when these big upgrades come
through. What happen was the desktop crashed and the upgrade was
aborted part way through...

Ref: <https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed>

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by: Paul R Schmidtbleich - Mon, 18 Mar 2024 22:19 UTC

On 18 Mar 2024 21:08:30 GMT, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 15:55:51 -0500, Malcolm wrote:

Thank you for the explanation. I have bookmarked to portal and will spend
some time reading and learning. At 77years still much to learn.

Paul

Re: HELP after Upgrade

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by: Malcolm - Mon, 18 Mar 2024 22:44 UTC

On 18 Mar 2024 22:19:19 GMT
Paul R Schmidtbleicher <paulrs@foxinternet.net> wrote:

> On 18 Mar 2024 21:08:30 GMT, Paul R Schmidtbleicher wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 15:55:51 -0500, Malcolm wrote:
>
> Thank you for the explanation. I have bookmarked to portal and will
> spend some time reading and learning. At 77years still much to learn.
>
> Paul
Hi Paul
If not sure, abort and post here, there is also the possibility to
download first with zypper and also do a dry run, here comes the
infamous rtfm ;) but `zypper dup --help` or man zypper shows a
plethora of options. My default is to use `zypper -vvv dup` as it
provides some more verbose output.

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Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
Tumbleweed 20240317 | GNOME Shell 45.3 | 6.7.9-1-default
HP Z440 | Xeon E5-2695 V4 X36 @ 2.10GHz | Quadro T400/Tesla P4
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Subject	Author
HELP after Upgrade	Paul R Schmidtbleicher
Re: HELP after Upgrade	Malcolm
Re: HELP after Upgrade	R Daneel Olivaw
Re: HELP after Upgrade	Paul R Schmidtbleicher
Re: HELP after Upgrade	Malcolm
Re: HELP after Upgrade	Paul R Schmidtbleicher
Re: HELP after Upgrade	Malcolm
Re: HELP after Upgrade	Paul R Schmidtbleicher
Re: HELP after Upgrade	Malcolm
Re: HELP after Upgrade	R Daneel Olivaw