Your Name wrote:

> The usual anti-Apple troll bollocks. Try updating an old mobile device
> to the latest Android ... can't be done.

The fact remains a fact that Apple kills operating systems sooner than
any other maker of common consumer operating systems...

Such that... *Apple products just die on you.*

You _hate_ the fact Apple products have the shortest support lifecycle.
But the fact you hate that fact doesn't change the fact it's a fact.

> Try updating an old computer
> to the latest Windows ... can't be done.

My desktop is from 2008 and, as such, it has had _many_ versions of Windows
on it since then, and currently it runs Windows 10 just fine.

By way of stark contrast, due to the stone-age iOS monolithic design and
Apple marketing strategy of killing off its old products, try to run a
modern iOS on an Apple device from that same time frame.

Note the _adult_ observation: It can't be done.
Why not?

Because Apple kills off their operating systems sooner than anyone else.

> Every OS developer on Earth eventually drops support for old devices,
> no matter how many people are still using them.

My desktop was built in 2008 and it runs the key Windows 10 apps just fine.

My point is clearly that you iKooks don't realize this fundamental fact:
*Apple kills off their operating systems sooner than anyone else.*
--
I realize iKooks not only hate me, but they fear me, because they have no
adult defense to the facts that I present to them (which they hate).

On 2022-08-04 17:14, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Your Name wrote:
>
>> The usual anti-Apple troll bollocks. Try updating an old mobile device
>> to the latest Android ... can't be done.
>
> The fact remains a fact that Apple kills operating systems sooner than
> any other maker of common consumer operating systems...
> Such that... *Apple products just die on you.*
>
> You _hate_ the fact Apple products have the shortest support lifecycle.
> But the fact you hate that fact doesn't change the fact it's a fact.
>
>> Try updating an old computer to the latest Windows ... can't be done.
>
> My desktop is from 2008 and, as such, it has had _many_ versions of Windows
> on it since then, and currently it runs Windows 10 just fine.
>
> By way of stark contrast, due to the stone-age iOS monolithic design and
> Apple marketing strategy of killing off its old products, try to run a
> modern iOS on an Apple device from that same time frame.
>
> Note the _adult_ observation: It can't be done.
> Why not?
>
> Because Apple kills off their operating systems sooner than anyone else.
>
>> Every OS developer on Earth eventually drops support for old devices,
>> no matter how many people are still using them.
>
> My desktop was built in 2008 and it runs the key Windows 10 apps just fine.
>
> My point is clearly that you iKooks don't realize this fundamental fact:
> *Apple kills off their operating systems sooner than anyone else.*

Computers and smartphones are different devices, and computers haven't
changed nearly as much since 2008 as smartphones have.

iOS 15 supports iPhones back to the iPhone 6s...

....which was released nearly 7 years ago.

What is the oldest Android phone supported by the most current version
of Android, hmmm?

On 2022-08-05, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2022-08-04 17:14, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>>
>> My desktop was built in 2008 and it runs the key Windows 10 apps just
>> fine.
>>
>> My point is clearly that you iKooks don't realize this fundamental
>> fact: *Apple kills off their operating systems sooner than anyone
>> else.*
>
> Computers and smartphones are different devices, and computers haven't
> changed nearly as much since 2008 as smartphones have.
>
> iOS 15 supports iPhones back to the iPhone 6s...
>
> ...which was released nearly 7 years ago.
>
> What is the oldest Android phone supported by the most current version
> of Android, hmmm?

One example: The HTC Dream was released in 2008 as the first device to
use the Android operating system, and can't run anything past Android
*1.6* (Donut): <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Dream> For those
keeping track, the current Android release is Android *12* which was
released on October 4, 2021.

The resident Apple-hating troll, Andy (Arlen), reeeeally wants you to
ignore this FACT. ; )

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Wade Garrett wrote:

> Gave up on Android phones several years back after several of the fairly
> recent model nice ones I had couldn't be OS updated.

What these low IQ uneducated iKooks don't comprehend is the _adult_ concept
of a layered update mechanism, which the primitive iOS monolith lacks.

Hence every other operating system supports devices far longer than iOS.

For example, the Android default browser run on almost every Android.
So does the Android default messenger.
As does the Android default dialer.
etc.

And system updates are now down for all Android phones over the Internet.
Note the carrier is no longer involved (even for firmware updates!)

As such, Android is updated essentially forever (there is no EOL date).
By way of contrast with the stone-age laughably primitive iOS monolith...

*iOS... it just dies*

On 2022-08-05 13:23, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Wade Garrett wrote:
>
>> Gave up on Android phones several years back after several of the
>> fairly recent model nice ones I had couldn't be OS updated.
>
> What these low IQ uneducated iKooks don't comprehend is the _adult_ concept
> of a layered update mechanism, which the primitive iOS monolith lacks.
>
> Hence every other operating system supports devices far longer than iOS.
>
> For example, the Android default browser run on almost every Android.
> So does the Android default messenger.
> As does the Android default dialer.
> etc.
>
> And system updates are now down for all Android phones over the Internet.
> Note the carrier is no longer involved (even for firmware updates!)
>
> As such, Android is updated essentially forever (there is no EOL date).
> By way of contrast with the stone-age laughably primitive iOS monolith...
>   *iOS... it just dies*

Oh, look!

Statements of purported "fact" without any supporting citations!

Jolly Roger wrote:

> The resident Apple-hating troll...

What is consistent about iKooks is they fear facts more than anything else.

What's clear is that Jolly Roger is _completely clueless_ how Android (and
all modern operating systems) are updated... in layers... essentially
forever.

Which is why the default Android browser works on almost all Android
phones, as does the default Android messenger, as does the default Android
YouTube app, as does the default Android map app, as does the default
Android phone dialer, as do _all_ the default Android apps.

Unlike iOS...

These low IQ completely uneducated iKooks only know what Apple feeds them.
They're completely unaware almost all of Android is updated over the web.

Heck... they're clueless that even the firmware is now updated that way.

As such, Android is updated essentially forever (there is no EOL date).
By way of contrast with the stone-age laughably primitive iOS monolith...

*iOS... it just dies*

On 2022-08-05 13:23, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Wade Garrett wrote:
>
>> Gave up on Android phones several years back after several of the
>> fairly recent model nice ones I had couldn't be OS updated.
>
> What these low IQ uneducated iKooks don't comprehend is the _adult_ concept
> of a layered update mechanism, which the primitive iOS monolith lacks.
>
> Hence every other operating system supports devices far longer than iOS.
>
> For example, the Android default browser run on almost every Android.
> So does the Android default messenger.
> As does the Android default dialer.
> etc.
>
> And system updates are now down for all Android phones over the Internet.
> Note the carrier is no longer involved (even for firmware updates!)
>
> As such, Android is updated essentially forever (there is no EOL date).
> By way of contrast with the stone-age laughably primitive iOS monolith...
>   *iOS... it just dies*

Oh, look!

Statements of purported "fact" without any supporting citations!

nospam wrote:

> the 6s is 7 years old. that's a long time to keep a phone.

The fact remains that Android is layered, as are almost all modern
operating systems... except iOS (which is a stone-age monolith).

Over two dozen of the core modules are now updated over the Internet.
Even the firmware is now being updated over the Internet for Android.

The carrier isn't even involved anymore.

A simple working example that even the low-IQ uneducated iKooks can
comprehend (let's hope) is that the default web browser for iOS is Safari
while the default web browser for Android is Chrome, which is continually
and almost ceaselessly updated on almost all Android phones extant.

Likewise (and even more so) for the default messenger, the default dialer,
the default video player, the default map app, the default search app, the
default app store app, the default calendar app, the default file browser,
etc.

By way of stark contrast, even the ill-educated low-IQ iKooks know that is
definitely not even close to the case for the default iOS Apple apps.

Android: It's updated essentially forever now.
iOS: *It still just dies*

In article <tcjufb$7e7$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<spam@nospam.com> wrote:

> As such, Android is updated essentially forever (there is no EOL date).

as such, you are lying again.

<https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/google-will-kill-off-very-old-v
ersions-of-android-next-month/>
Starting September 27, devices running Android 2.3.7 and lower
will no longer be able to log in to Google services, effectively
killing a big portion of the on-rails Android experience.
....
This isn't the first time Google has killed off older versions of
Android because of higher login security. The Android 1.0-era
apps have been broken for years

<https://www.gsmarena.com/google_will_stop_updating_play_services_for_de
vices_running_android_jelly_bean-news-49967.php>
Google will soon stop updating Play Services for phones running
Android Jelly Bean ­ this covers all three versions, 4.1, 4.2 and 4.3
(API version 16 through 18, respectively).

there's more, but that's sufficient to prove you wrong yet again.

nospam wrote:

>> As such, Android is updated essentially forever (there is no EOL date).
>
> as such, you are lying again.

Facts... are what iKooks are afraid of... since *iOS just dies*

What is interesting about you, nospam, is not that you have a low IQ nor
that you were never educated, nor even that you defend all of Apple's flaws
to the death... as all you iKooks own the confluence of those three traits.

No. What is interesting about you, nospam, is that you are the _smartest_
of the iKooks, in that you didn't try to defend Apple's flaws (in this case
anyway) by claiming all facts you _hate_ about Apple products are wrong.

Instead, you simply said all facts you hate about Apple products are lies.

Since you're the smartest of the low-IQ uneducated iKooks nospam, let's
take the _simplest_ possible case of default apps, shall we?
a. iOS === Safari
b. Android === Chrome

As you may be well aware, Chrome is updated at least way back to icecream
sandwhich (as I recall - but we can look up the exact date).

Simple question of fact:
*How many years ago was it that icecream sandwhich was released?*

Now, let's take the case of the default iOS browser, shall we?
*What is the oldest iOS version the latest version of Safari supports?*

On 2022-08-05, Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 2022-08-05, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > On 2022-08-05, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> >> On 2022-08-04 17:14, Andy Burnelli wrote:

Notice how Andy (Arlen) snips pertinent quoted text from his replies
(which I have graciously restored below) because his unhealthy obsession
and hatred of Apple forces him to refuse to acknowledge factual
discourse here. Just lame!

> >>> My desktop was built in 2008 and it runs the key Windows 10 apps
> >>> just fine.
> >>>
> >>> My point is clearly that you iKooks don't realize this fundamental
> >>> fact: *Apple kills off their operating systems sooner than anyone
> >>> else.*
> >>
> >> Computers and smartphones are different devices, and computers
> >> haven't changed nearly as much since 2008 as smartphones have.
> >>
> >> iOS 15 supports iPhones back to the iPhone 6s...
> >>
> >> ...which was released nearly 7 years ago.
> >>
> >> What is the oldest Android phone supported by the most current
> >> version of Android, hmmm?
> >
> > One example: The HTC Dream was released in 2008 as the first device
> > to use the Android operating system, and can't run anything past
> > Android *1.6* (Donut): <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Dream> For
> > those keeping track, the current Android release is Android *12*
> > which was released on October 4, 2021.
> >
> > The resident Apple-hating troll, Andy (Arlen), reeeeally wants you
> > to ignore this FACT. ; )
>
> What is consistent about iKooks is they fear facts more than anything
> else.
>
> What's clear is that Jolly Roger is _completely clueless_ how Android
> (and all modern operating systems) are updated... in layers...
> essentially forever.

What is clear is that no matter how many words Arlen throws at the wall,
he can't change the FACT that many Android smartphones CANNOT AND WILL
NEVER run the latest version of Android, which is why he tries to move
the goal post below to talk abut apps instead of the operating system.
He'll do *anything* to avoid acknowledging FACTS that disagree with his
LIES. He's a pathetic and useless troll who spends his every waking
moment trolling the Apple news groups due to his irrational and
obsessive hatred of all things Apple. He serves no actual useful purpose
on this planet. He lives a life of pure hatred and anger. He's a piece
of shit human being who is a net negative to society. He's a pathetic
fucking turd. : )

> Which is why the default Android browser works on almost all Android
> phones, as does the default Android messenger, as does the default
> Android YouTube app, as does the default Android map app, as does the
> default Android phone dialer, as do _all_ the default Android apps.

BLAH BLAH BLAH... Just *desperately* trying to move the goal posts.
*Anything* but acknowledging the FACT that many Android devices CANNOT and
WILL NEVER run the latest Android OS. : )

> Unlike iOS...
>
> These low IQ completely uneducated iKooks only know what Apple feeds
> them. They're completely unaware almost all of Android is updated
> over the web.
>
> Heck... they're clueless that even the firmware is now updated that
> way.
>
> As such, Android is updated essentially forever (there is no EOL
> date). By way of contrast with the stone-age laughably primitive iOS
> monolith...
>
> *iOS... it just dies*

LIES are all poor, little Arlen has. He DESPERATELY wants you to ignore
the FACT that iOS devices DO NOT "just die" after Apple stops supporting
them with major OS upgrades, and many of them remain useful for YEARS
afterward. ; )

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In article <tcjvct$jnh$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<spam@nospam.com> wrote:

> Facts... are what I do not have and never have had.

ftfy

On 8/4/2022 5:14 PM, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Your Name wrote:
>
>> The usual anti-Apple troll bollocks. Try updating an old mobile device
>> to the latest Android ... can't be done.
>
> The fact remains a fact that Apple kills operating systems sooner than
> any other maker of common consumer operating systems...
> Such that... *Apple products just die on you.*
>
> You _hate_ the fact Apple products have the shortest support lifecycle.
> But the fact you hate that fact doesn't change the fact it's a fact.
>
>> Try updating an old computer to the latest Windows ... can't be done.
>
> My desktop is from 2008 and, as such, it has had _many_ versions of Windows
> on it since then, and currently it runs Windows 10 just fine.
>
> By way of stark contrast, due to the stone-age iOS monolithic design and
> Apple marketing strategy of killing off its old products, try to run a
> modern iOS on an Apple device from that same time frame.
>
> Note the _adult_ observation: It can't be done.
> Why not?
>
> Because Apple kills off their operating systems sooner than anyone else.
>
>> Every OS developer on Earth eventually drops support for old devices,
>> no matter how many people are still using them.
>
> My desktop was built in 2008 and it runs the key Windows 10 apps just fine.
>
> My point is clearly that you iKooks don't realize this fundamental fact:
> *Apple kills off their operating systems sooner than anyone else.*

Yet Win 11 is not made for PCs older than about three years old. Won't
even let you install unless you apply a hack.

John wrote:

> Yet Win 11 is not made for PCs older than about three years old. Won't
> even let you install unless you apply a hack.

I never disagree with facts.
Only fools disagree with facts.
That's _why_ they're fools, in fact.

Agree that Windows 11 has very specific hardware requirements which negates
its installation on quite a few not even that old desktop & laptop systems.

Also agree Microsoft finally pulled the anti-privacy trick Apple has been
using for years of _requiring_ a mothership tracking account on Win11 Home.

Also agree that Windows 11 is essentially Windows 10 dressed up in costume,
which is good because we can allow the corporate world who has the big
bucks to expend their resources to upgrade their systems to Win11 specs.

Meanwhile, a PC from circa 2005 runs Windows 10 just fine, as does mine.
It's only Apple platforms where the operating systems "*just die*" on you.

By way of example, Android is now updated essentially forever.
And, most of Android is updated completely outside the carrier nowadays.
Even Qualcomm firmware is now updated using the Google Play Store nowadays.

Maybe you can find a common operating system that dies sooner than iOS.
Otherwise, iOS is the worst in terms of the operating system dying on us.

Jolly Roger wrote:

> snips pertinent quoted text from his replies

FACTs are things that low-IQ uneducated people like jR can't process.

FACT #1:
It's common Internet courtesy to snip (anyone who wants to can go back and
see _exactly_ what's posted unless people purposefully put X-no-archive
in their headers, which I do not do because it's common courtesy not to.

FACT #2:
I snip _every_ response, and have been doing so for decades on Usenet.
For Jolly Roger to complain now is proof he doesn't comprehend basic facts.

> and hatred of Apple forces him to refuse to acknowledge factual
> discourse here. Just lame!

FACT #3:
It's common knowledge I own Linux, Windows, iOS, and Android products, and,
as such, it's common knowledge I post on all the common operating system
newsgroups. It's not just Apple newsgroups that I post facts to.

FACT #4:
It's common knowledge I post facts about Linux (e.g., canonical trying to
get us to buy their crappy desktop), about Windows (e.g., Microsoft trying
to take away our privacy by requiring a mothership tracking account), about
Android (e.g., Google removing login/password from their mail servers, etc.

FACT #5:
Nobody on the adult operating system newsgroups complains about these
facts. It's ONLY on the child-like Apple newsgroups where facts are hated.

> What is clear is that no matter how many words Arlen throws at the wall,
> he can't change the FACT that many Android smartphones CANNOT AND WILL
> NEVER run the latest version of Android

FACT #6:
Windows 10 runs essentially everything Windows 11 does, as does Windows 7,
8, and Vista, which goes back something like almost two decades in time.

There is nothing special about the operating system version on _all_
platforms other than the primitive monolithic laughably archaic iOS.

What matters are the applications you can run, where, in the case of
Android, all the default applications work just fine on almost every
Android phone out there today, whether that's the default browser, the
default mail user agent, the default youtube client, the default map
client, the default messenger, the default contacts app, the default
gallery app, the default camera, the default dialer, etc.

On iOS... *everything just dies*

> which is why he tries to move
> the goal post below to talk abut apps instead of the operating system.

The apps in iOS _are_ the operating system.

The fact that Jolly Roger is completely clueless that iOS is _different_
from all modern operating systems is yet another indication of his low IQ.

> He'll do *anything* to avoid acknowledging FACTS that disagree with his
> LIES.

And yet, the fact is Android is updated essentially forever nowadays.
*iOS just dies*

> He's a pathetic and useless troll who spends his every waking
> moment trolling the Apple news groups due to his irrational and
> obsessive hatred of all things Apple.

I probably own more Apple products than does Jolly Roger, so I find it
indicative of all iKooks that anyone who speaks facts about Apple producdts
is a danger to them.

I get it that Jolly Roger is afraid of facts.
I get it that Jolly Roger is therefore afraid of me.

But the fact JR hates facts doesn't change the fact they're still facts.

> He serves no actual useful purpose
> on this planet. He lives a life of pure hatred and anger.

And yet it's you, Jolly Roger (and Lewis too) who spew your fifth-grade
vitriol every tome someone speaks a fact about Apple that you hate.

And note, that's a _lot_ of facts you hate, Jolly Roger.

> He's a piece
> of shit human being who is a net negative to society. He's a pathetic
> fucking turd. : )

It's interesting that you can't discuss the facts like an adult, JR.
You act like a fifth grade bully told that Santa Claus isn't real, JR.

The fact that's how you respond to facts shows how _desperate_ you are.
You actually _hate_ it's a fact iOS dies sooner than all other systems.

Otherwise you wouldn't respond to that fact like a fifth grade held-back
bully does when he's told by other fifth graders that Santa Claus is a
marketing gimmick, Jolly Roger.

Otherwise, you'd act like an adult when faced with the facts, JR.

Here's a fact for you to discuss, for example, as an adult, JR:
*Find any common consumer operating system that dies _sooner_ than iOS*
*Find just one*

HINT: You can't.

> BLAH BLAH BLAH... Just *desperately* trying to move the goal posts.

The goal posts are that iOS dies sooner than all other operating systems.

> *Anything* but acknowledging the FACT that many Android devices CANNOT and
> WILL NEVER run the latest Android OS. : )

Android is now updated essentially forever.
You _hate_ that fact.

But the fact you hate that fact doesn't change the fact that's a fact.

> LIES are all poor, little Arlen has. He DESPERATELY wants you to ignore
> the FACT that iOS devices DO NOT "just die" after Apple stops supporting
> them with major OS upgrades, and many of them remain useful for YEARS
> afterward. ; )

If they truly are lies, then you should be able to act like an adult and
tell us which operating system dies _sooner_ than does iOS Jolly Roger.

Name just one.
--
HINT: An operating system is _everything_ you need, which includes the key
apps, the core services, the kernel, the graphical user interface, etc.

nospam wrote:

> ftfy

The _adults_ on this newsgroup will note that when I brought up the clear
and obvious evidence that *iOS dies sooner than other operating systems*,
the _only_ response nospam could come up with is this childish taunt.

Yet the fact remains a fact that iOS dies sooner than all other systems.

Why?
Because it's a primitive monolith, that's why.

On all other operating systems, the _layers_ are updated independently of
the operating system; but not on the stone-age iOS operating system.

So *iOS just dies*.

nospam wrote:

>> Doesn't that make him a genius?
>
> it does not.

If the only way you can respond to all facts you hate is to act like a
child, then that clearly and obviously shows you for what you are, nospam.

Remember... I'm on this newsgroup for _two_ reasons:

1. To learn from others and teach others about Apple products, and,
2. To show the world (for the permanent record) what you iKooks are.

In this case, you're so frightened by facts, you respond as a child.
Let's see if you can bring yourself to the adult level, shall we nospam?

*Name one common operating system that dies _sooner_ than does iOS.
*Name just one*

HINT: You can't.

Your Name wrote:

> These days all operating systems are simply adding more and more
> useless/niche gimmickry that 99% of users don't ever use. They should
> instead be concentrting on fixing all the bugs (many that have existed
> for years) and making the OS more efficient. Anyone who actually wants
> any of the gimmickry can add it as an App Store extra.

It's interesting that Your Name is telling it like it is, which is that
most common consumer operating systems are "mature" by now.

Hence, Android is mature; iOS is mature; Windows is mature; and Linux is
mature such that each successive "version" is no different than the last.

What matters are the applications that you can run on the operating system,
where we add a long thread on the Windows newsgroups each time Microsoft
"claims" a new operating system asking:
What can you do on Window "X" that you can't do on Windows "X-1"

Here's just one example:
*Is there any useful new Win11 functionality that isn't already in Win10?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows/c/NCuZDp9k_nU/m/PnVEsFwsBgAJ>

Note that in many cases, the operating systems get _worse_ over time.
For example:
*How is Microsoft planning on making money from the future forced mothership login requirement?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows/c/Nb5_b7aM-dI/m/FWFeeOAFAgAJ>

Note that Microsoft is following the sleazy lead that Apple did already:
*If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows/c/IbpQSemnfmo/m/QFCmy0G5AQAJ>

Never forget iOS is _different_ from all common consumer operating system
in that iOS is a primitive monolithic stone-age all-or-nothing design.

So for iOS, the actual version number _does_ matter.
A lot.

But the version is meaningless for other common consumer operating systems.
You can install Chrome, for example, or Edge, or whatever default app you
want to on my Windows 10 which is on a desktop from circa 2008.

Likewise with almost all Android phones.
It's only iOS that "*just dies*" on you.

nospam wrote:

> like sour milk, phones should have an odor so you know it needs to be
> discarded.

Luckily for you nospam, iOS essentially does that as the stone-age monolith
"*just dies*" (unlike all other common consumer operating systems which are
layered and where those layers are updated essentially forever nowadays).

On 2022-08-06, Andy Burnelli <spam@nospam.com> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> What is clear is that no matter how many words Arlen throws at the
>> wall, he can't change the FACT that many Android smartphones CANNOT
>> AND WILL NEVER run the latest version of Android
>
> FACT #6: Windows 10 blah blah blah...

Note how Arlen *desperately* tries to move the goalpost to desktop
operating systems when confronted with the FACT that many Android
smartphones CANNOT AND WILL NEVER run the latest version of Android.
He's a pathetic and useless troll.

> On iOS... *everything just dies*
>
>> LIES are all poor, little Arlen has. He DESPERATELY wants you to
>> ignore the FACT that iOS devices DO NOT "just die" after Apple stops
>> supporting them with major OS upgrades, and many of them remain
>> useful for YEARS afterward. ; )

Pathetic troll. : )

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Jolly Roger wrote:

> Note how Arlen *desperately* tries to move the goalpost to desktop
> operating systems when confronted with the FACT that many Android
> smartphones CANNOT AND WILL NEVER run the latest version of Android.

You still don't get it Jolly Roger... because you don't own any intellect.
*It's not about the silly operating system version number... you fool*

Apple has you trained like a subservient dog, Jolly Roger.
You are salivating over something as silly as a meaningless version number.

You actually don't care that iOS dies sooner than all other operating
systems because all you seem to care about is the silly version number.

In article <tckopp$ab6$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<spam@nospam.com> wrote:

> Meanwhile, a PC from circa 2005 runs Windows 10 just fine,

no it doesn't

In article <tckq9c$mmm$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<spam@nospam.com> wrote:

> The apps in iOS _are_ the operating system.

nope. that is very much false, and is not unique to ios either.

go learn about what an operating system and apps actually are before
you dig yourself an even deeper hole.

In article <tckr4p$tdr$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<spam@nospam.com> wrote:

>
> Remember... I'm on this newsgroup for _two_ reasons:

trolling and lying.

nospam wrote:

>> The apps in iOS _are_ the operating system.
>
> nope. that is very much false, and is not unique to ios either.
>
> go learn about what an operating system and apps actually are before
> you dig yourself an even deeper hole.

Facts

What's _different_ about iOS, nospam, is it's built as an ancient monolith.
*The result is there is no operating system with a _shorter life_ - than iOS.*

When operating systems evolved, they learned to release in layers.
a. As such, Windows is updated essentially forever (my Win10 PC is 2008).
b. As is Linux (that same circa Win10 PC runs almost every linux around).
c. My Android is also layered such that its updated essentially forever.
Dozens of core operating system layers are updated over the Internet
Even the firmware layers are now being updated over the Internet
Certainly the key default apps are constantly updated over the Internet
etc.

That's not possible with the primitive stone-age monolithic iOS design.

You low-IQ uneducated iKooks have no idea operating systems are layered.
*As a result no common operating system has a _shorter life_ - than iOS.*