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* pollingLuc McCarragher
`* Re: pollingg00r00
 `* Re: pollingShaun Buzza
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Subject: polling
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 by: Luc McCarragher - Sun, 3 Apr 2022 03:43 UTC

HI

They have a way to limit incoming polling
One of my downlink poll Every 8 minutes, i ask him to poll every hours!!
have a control in mystic to accept poll every 60 minutes not less?

thx

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Subject: Re: polling
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 by: g00r00 - Sun, 3 Apr 2022 04:44 UTC

LM> They have a way to limit incoming polling
LM> One of my downlink poll Every 8 minutes, i ask him to poll every hours!!
LM> have a control in mystic to accept poll every 60 minutes not less?

There is not really any way you can stop a client from trying to connect as
often as they want to your server unless you ban them at the network level.

Mystic can automatically ban an IP after a certain number of attempts within a
time window, but that still doesn't stop them from connecting it will just
refuse to service them.

I suppose I could add a specific feature to BINKP server that gives them an
"BUSY" with a message that they can only connect X many times per Y seconds. If
they are within those limits it would give them mail, if they were not within
those limits it would give them a message and disconnect.

But I wonder if there is really a point to do that since at that point they're
already connected to you anyway. I am open to suggestions as to whether or not
such a feature would be worth it.

.... Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things

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Subject: Re: polling
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 by: Shaun Buzza - Sun, 3 Apr 2022 05:10 UTC

g0> Mystic can automatically ban an IP after a certain number of attempts
g0> within a time window, but that still doesn't stop them from connecting
g0> it will just refuse to service them.
g0>
g0> I suppose I could add a specific feature to BINKP server that gives them
g0> an "BUSY" with a message that they can only connect X many times per Y
g0> seconds. If they are within those limits it would give them mail, if
g0> they were not within those limits it would give them a message and
g0> disconnect.
g0>
g0> But I wonder if there is really a point to do that since at that point
g0> they're already connected to you anyway. I am open to suggestions as to
g0> whether or not such a feature would be worth it.

Personally, I don't think ol' Binky is as big a problem as port-trolling. After
all, one can always use the 'autoban' option in the BinkP server, too!

But, I also think that this might be a good idea, for when PiBBS is too busy
grinding her nightly maintenance...after all, there are other reasons why a
particular BBS might be busy...

Thanks for listening to us!

McDoob
SysOp, PiBBS
pibbs.sytes.net

.... If you can't make it good, make it LOOK good. -Bill Gates.

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Subject: Re: polling
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 by: g00r00 - Sun, 3 Apr 2022 07:01 UTC

SB> Also, can you convey the importance of 2xSai to your opponent, sir? I
SB> know what I'm seeing in Netrunner, because I helped create it. And
SB> SyncroTERM doesn't even understand the meaning!

Ah, I see you are a man of culture! ;)

You'd be surprised that some people have complained to me about the scaling and
cited it for a reason why they didn't like NetRunner. I tried to explain to
them that if they disabled everything that makes NetRunner cool then it'd be
the blurry mess that they're used to!

I guess its a matter of preference, but I certainly appreciate it just as you
seem to.

To be honest NetRunner 2 was more of a "proof of concept" for me, and I wish I
had more time to really keep up on Mystic and NetRunner these days. I give the
focus more to Mystic and NetRunner gets neglected.

I would say this... As we get more and more common with higher resolutions like
2k/4k it becomes a much more serious issue, and I am confident you'll get what
you want eventually!

.... Honk if you love peace and quiet!

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Subject: Re: polling
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 by: Shaun Buzza - Sun, 3 Apr 2022 06:44 UTC

On 03 Apr 2022, Shaun Buzza said the following...

Also, can you convey the importance of 2xSai to your opponent, sir? I know what
I'm seeing in Netrunner, because I helped create it. And SyncroTERM doesn't
even understand the meaning!

McDoob
SysOp, PiBBS
pibbs.sytes.net

.... Press SPACEBAR once to abort, or twice to save changes

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Subject: Re: polling
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 by: g00r00 - Sun, 3 Apr 2022 06:20 UTC

SB> But, I also think that this might be a good idea, for when PiBBS is too
SB> busy grinding her nightly maintenance...after all, there are other
SB> reasons why a particular BBS might be busy...

Agreed that this type of BUSY event would be pretty useful if you want to fully
automate some things that require you to take the servers down.

I was experimenting with something like this before but what I struggled with
was exactly how I should handle existing connections to those servers.
Handling new connections during a defined maint window shouldn't be too hard
but figuring out the existing connections is a little more tricky.

.... Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.

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Subject: Re: polling
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 by: Shaun Buzza - Sun, 3 Apr 2022 07:52 UTC

g0> SB> Also, can you convey the importance of 2xSai to your opponent, sir? I
g0> SB> know what I'm seeing in Netrunner, because I helped create it. And
g0> SB> SyncroTERM doesn't even understand the meaning!
g0>
g0> Ah, I see you are a man of culture! ;)

Thank you! And you, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar!

g0> You'd be surprised that some people have complained to me about the
g0> scaling and cited it for a reason why they didn't like NetRunner. I
g0> tried to explain to them that if they disabled everything that makes
g0> NetRunner cool then it'd be the blurry mess that they're used to!

I refuse to disobey my God by describing anyone else as stupid...so I can't say
anything...

Honestly, until this week, I had never tried NetRunner. And that was *my*
mistake! I blame you, and your damned upgrade, btw. (o_-)

g0> I guess its a matter of preference, but I certainly appreciate it just
g0> as you seem to.

It really is a matter of preference, sir. Some people insist on liking the
old-school 'Magic Board' feel. I am not one of these people. I will always hate
jagged lines.

Please! Take every word I've just said with as many grains of salt as your
doctor will allow! I am just one person, after all!

But...I wouldn't have any other base but Mystic.

McDoob
SysOp, PiBBS
pibbs.sytes.net

.... Kilometers are shorter than miles. Save gas, take your trip in kilometers

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 by: Shaun Buzza - Sun, 3 Apr 2022 07:37 UTC

g0> Agreed that this type of BUSY event would be pretty useful if you want
g0> to fully automate some things that require you to take the servers down.

g0> I was experimenting with something like this before but what I struggled
g0> with was exactly how I should handle existing connections to those
g0> servers.

g0> Handling new connections during a defined maint window shouldn't be too
g0> g0> hard but figuring out the existing connections is a little more tricky.

Stop thinking so hard sir! (@_@)
Smoke a doob, or somethin'!

Surely, you're at least as intelligent as I am? Look again! Don't expect every
connection to occur at the same time!

Sorry, and thank you for listening.

McDoob
SysOp, PiBBS
pibbs.sytes.net

.... Intelligence tests are biased toward the literate.

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 by: Shaun Buzza - Sun, 3 Apr 2022 08:48 UTC

g0> To be honest NetRunner 2 was more of a "proof of concept" for me, and I
g0> wish I had more time to really keep up on Mystic and NetRunner these
g0> days. I give the focus more to Mystic and NetRunner gets neglected.

YOU JUST SHUT YOUR DIRTY LITTLE MOUTH, sir! (@_@)

On the coder side, I know exactly what you mean. On the consumer side, GO TO
HELL! WTF! GIMME SHINIES!

Trust me. NR2 is > SnarkoTERM.

McDoob
SysOp, PiBBS
pibbs.sytes.net

.... 24 hours in a day and 24 beers in a case. Hmmmm...

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