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* chat protection for service members, law enforcement etc.Stefan Claas
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 by: Stefan Claas - Tue, 22 Feb 2022 17:02 UTC

If you live in Germany, you may have heart that sometimes
people run into trouble via chats, because the communication
is not properly protected.

Third parties, knowing the chat locations can simply read
and run a protocol of the session(s).

It is IMHO advisable, to take a closer look at OnionChat,
from Micah Lee, who once helped Edward Snowden to
get in contact with Glenn Greenwald, and use the chat
function from there with the following suggestion, IMHO
worth to explore.

When doing a chat (via a Windows 10 sandbox installation)
try to use OnionShare with a Format Preserving Cipher (FPE)
and base encode it, prior pasting you words into the chat window.

I already filed a while ago a feature request, on GitHub, so that
OnionShare users can re-generate an Onion URL, in case this
is needed.

Regards
Stefan

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 by: Stefan Claas - Tue, 22 Feb 2022 17:03 UTC

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 6:02:34 PM UTC+1, Stefan Claas wrote:
> If you live in Germany, you may have heart that sometimes
> people run into trouble via chats, because the communication
> is not properly protected.
>
> Third parties, knowing the chat locations can simply read
> and run a protocol of the session(s).
>
> It is IMHO advisable, to take a closer look at OnionChat,

Typo, OnionShare, sorry!

Regards
Stefan

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 by: Nomen Nescio - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 04:58 UTC

On 2/22/2022 11:02 AM, Stefan Claas wrote:

> If you live in Germany, you may have heart that sometimes
> people run into trouble via chats, because the communication
> is not properly protected.
>
> Third parties, knowing the chat locations can simply read
> and run a protocol of the session(s).
>
> It is IMHO advisable, to take a closer look at OnionChat,
> from Micah Lee, who once helped Edward Snowden to
> get in contact with Glenn Greenwald, and use the chat
> function from there with the following suggestion, IMHO
> worth to explore.
>
> When doing a chat (via a Windows 10 sandbox installation)
> try to use OnionShare with a Format Preserving Cipher (FPE)
> and base encode it, prior pasting you words into the chat window.
>
> I already filed a while ago a feature request, on GitHub, so that
> OnionShare users can re-generate an Onion URL, in case this
> is needed.
>
> Regards
> Stefan

Onionchat is very cool.

Thanks, Stefan

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 by: D - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 05:18 UTC

On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 05:58:28 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>Ste

"white eyes"

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Subject: Re: chat protection for service members, law enforcement etc.
From: spam.tra...@gmail.com (Stefan Claas)
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 by: Stefan Claas - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 10:53 UTC

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 5:58:29 AM UTC+1, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> On 2/22/2022 11:02 AM, Stefan Claas wrote:
>
> > If you live in Germany, you may have heart that sometimes
> > people run into trouble via chats, because the communication
> > is not properly protected.
> >
> > Third parties, knowing the chat locations can simply read
> > and run a protocol of the session(s).
> >
> > It is IMHO advisable, to take a closer look at OnionChat,
> > from Micah Lee, who once helped Edward Snowden to
> > get in contact with Glenn Greenwald, and use the chat
> > function from there with the following suggestion, IMHO
> > worth to explore.
> >
> > When doing a chat (via a Windows 10 sandbox installation)
> > try to use OnionShare with a Format Preserving Cipher (FPE)
> > and base encode it, prior pasting you words into the chat window.
> >
> > I already filed a while ago a feature request, on GitHub, so that
> > OnionShare users can re-generate an Onion URL, in case this
> > is needed.
> >
> > Regards
> > Stefan
> Onionchat is very cool.
>
> Thanks, Stefan

Yes, it is very cool. :-)

Regarding FPE, I like to show the a.p.a-s community a possible way to
currently transmit (via a dumb phone and SMS etc.) an .onion URL, so
that third parties do not know that it is an .onion URL. However, I can
not guarantee that the cypher or its libary is secure.

As a little example, an old OnionShare URL from me:

rjyjr5xnflwzogkewhklcsktvfvymkzefntacveohkuy2q2jf4ww3aid.onion

and now run through a feistel cipher, with a 256bit key and 100 rounds,
base64 encoded:

L2x3Z3E2JWQ1OysuZjZlMydqbmc1JjUrLD1xfDJoJWg8anZvOSRmMTRoKHFoJTIzMWV7IDhtYmx8MT5gMTQ=

IMHO not bad for an SMS etc..

Regards
Stefan
--
claas.su

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 by: Nomen Nescio - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 11:01 UTC

In article <27ed9c1a79c0bab4396389dd8f015d7c@dizum.com>
Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>
>
> Onionchat is very cool.
>
> Thanks, Stefan

+1

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 by: D - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 15:10 UTC

On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 12:01:02 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>Ste

"Die judische Lehre des Marxismus lehnt das aristokratische Prinzip
der Natur ab und setzt an Stelle des ewigen Vorrechts der Kraft und
Starke die Masse der Zahl und ihr totes Gewicht. Sie leugnet so im
Menschen den Wert der Person, bestreitet die Bedeutung von Volkstum
und Rasse und entzieht der Menschheit damit die Voraussetzung ihres
Bestehens und ihrer Kultur. Sie wurde als Grundlage des Universums
zum Ende jeder gedanklich fur Menschen fasslichen Ordnung fuhren.
Und so wie in diesem grossten erkennbaren Organismus nur Chaos das
Ergebnis der Anwendung eines solchen Gesetzes sein konnte, so auf
der Erde fur die Bewohner dieses Sternes nur ihr eigener Untergang.
Siegt der Jude mit Hilfe seines marxistischen Glaubensbekenntnisses
uber die Volker dieser Welt, dann wird seine Krone der Totentanz
der Menschheit sein, dann wird dieser Planet wieder wie einst vor
Jahrmillionen menschenleer durch den Ather ziehen. Die ewige Natur
racht unerbittlich die Ubertretung ihrer Gebote. So glaube ich
heute im Sinne des allmachtigen Schopfers zu handeln: Indem ich
mich des Juden erwehre, kampfe ich fur das Werk des Herrn."

--hallowed Christian leader of the German people, born
Saturday 20 April 1889 6:30 PM LMT 13E02:08 48N15:23
Gasthof zum Pommer Vorstadt Nr. 219 (c.f. Salzburger
Vorstadt 15), Braunau am Inn 5280, Osterreich(AA/BR).

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 by: Stefan Claas - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 17:15 UTC

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 4:11:00 PM UTC+1, D wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 12:01:02 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
> >Ste
> "Die judische Lehre des Marxismus lehnt das aristokratische Prinzip
> der Natur ab und setzt an Stelle des ewigen Vorrechts der Kraft und
> Starke die Masse der Zahl und ihr totes Gewicht. Sie leugnet so im
> Menschen den Wert der Person, bestreitet die Bedeutung von Volkstum
> und Rasse und entzieht der Menschheit damit die Voraussetzung ihres
> Bestehens und ihrer Kultur. Sie wurde als Grundlage des Universums
> zum Ende jeder gedanklich fur Menschen fasslichen Ordnung fuhren.
> Und so wie in diesem grossten erkennbaren Organismus nur Chaos das
> Ergebnis der Anwendung eines solchen Gesetzes sein konnte, so auf
> der Erde fur die Bewohner dieses Sternes nur ihr eigener Untergang.
> Siegt der Jude mit Hilfe seines marxistischen Glaubensbekenntnisses
> uber die Volker dieser Welt, dann wird seine Krone der Totentanz
> der Menschheit sein, dann wird dieser Planet wieder wie einst vor
> Jahrmillionen menschenleer durch den Ather ziehen. Die ewige Natur
> racht unerbittlich die Ubertretung ihrer Gebote. So glaube ich
> heute im Sinne des allmachtigen Schopfers zu handeln: Indem ich
> mich des Juden erwehre, kampfe ich fur das Werk des Herrn."
>
> --hallowed Christian leader of the German people, born
> Saturday 20 April 1889 6:30 PM LMT 13E02:08 48N15:23
> Gasthof zum Pommer Vorstadt Nr. 219 (c.f. Salzburger
> Vorstadt 15), Braunau am Inn 5280, Osterreich(AA/BR).

Hi D,

Beginning February 21st, 2022 we live now in a Multipolar World,
with no more Imperialism, Globalism etc.

I saw a while ago footage from Rabbis in NYC demonstrating and
waving the flag of Palestine. Another demonstration in NYC showed
Americans not wanting a war. How cool is that?

Long live Peace President Putin and Peace President Xi. Maybe in
two years Peace President Trump can join. :-)

Best regards
Stefan

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 by: Nomen Nescio - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 18:44 UTC

On 2/23/2022 4:53 AM, Stefan Claas wrote:

> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 5:58:29 AM UTC+1, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>> On 2/22/2022 11:02 AM, Stefan Claas wrote:
>>
>>> If you live in Germany, you may have heart that sometimes
>>> people run into trouble via chats, because the communication
>>> is not properly protected.
>>>
>>> Third parties, knowing the chat locations can simply read
>>> and run a protocol of the session(s).
>>>
>>> It is IMHO advisable, to take a closer look at OnionChat,
>>> from Micah Lee, who once helped Edward Snowden to
>>> get in contact with Glenn Greenwald, and use the chat
>>> function from there with the following suggestion, IMHO
>>> worth to explore.
>>>
>>> When doing a chat (via a Windows 10 sandbox installation)
>>> try to use OnionShare with a Format Preserving Cipher (FPE)
>>> and base encode it, prior pasting you words into the chat window.
>>>
>>> I already filed a while ago a feature request, on GitHub, so that
>>> OnionShare users can re-generate an Onion URL, in case this
>>> is needed.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Stefan
>> Onionchat is very cool.
>>
>> Thanks, Stefan
>
> Yes, it is very cool. :-)
>
> Regarding FPE, I like to show the a.p.a-s community a possible way to
> currently transmit (via a dumb phone and SMS etc.) an .onion URL, so
> that third parties do not know that it is an .onion URL. However, I can
> not guarantee that the cypher or its libary is secure.
>
> As a little example, an old OnionShare URL from me:
>
> rjyjr5xnflwzogkewhklcsktvfvymkzefntacveohkuy2q2jf4ww3aid.onion
>
> and now run through a feistel cipher, with a 256bit key and 100 rounds,
> base64 encoded:
>
> L2x3Z3E2JWQ1OysuZjZlMydqbmc1JjUrLD1xfDJoJWg8anZvOSRmMTRoKHFoJTIzMWV7IDhtYmx8MT5gMTQ=
>
> IMHO not bad for an SMS etc..
>
> Regards
> Stefan

I have lots of folks send me links this way:

https://yopass.se/

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 by: Stefan Claas - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 19:06 UTC

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 7:44:17 PM UTC+1, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> On 2/23/2022 4:53 AM, Stefan Claas wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 5:58:29 AM UTC+1, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> >> On 2/22/2022 11:02 AM, Stefan Claas wrote:
> >>
> >>> If you live in Germany, you may have heart that sometimes
> >>> people run into trouble via chats, because the communication
> >>> is not properly protected.
> >>>
> >>> Third parties, knowing the chat locations can simply read
> >>> and run a protocol of the session(s).
> >>>
> >>> It is IMHO advisable, to take a closer look at OnionChat,
> >>> from Micah Lee, who once helped Edward Snowden to
> >>> get in contact with Glenn Greenwald, and use the chat
> >>> function from there with the following suggestion, IMHO
> >>> worth to explore.
> >>>
> >>> When doing a chat (via a Windows 10 sandbox installation)
> >>> try to use OnionShare with a Format Preserving Cipher (FPE)
> >>> and base encode it, prior pasting you words into the chat window.
> >>>
> >>> I already filed a while ago a feature request, on GitHub, so that
> >>> OnionShare users can re-generate an Onion URL, in case this
> >>> is needed.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> Stefan
> >> Onionchat is very cool.
> >>
> >> Thanks, Stefan
> >
> > Yes, it is very cool. :-)
> >
> > Regarding FPE, I like to show the a.p.a-s community a possible way to
> > currently transmit (via a dumb phone and SMS etc.) an .onion URL, so
> > that third parties do not know that it is an .onion URL. However, I can
> > not guarantee that the cypher or its libary is secure.
> >
> > As a little example, an old OnionShare URL from me:
> >
> > rjyjr5xnflwzogkewhklcsktvfvymkzefntacveohkuy2q2jf4ww3aid.onion
> >
> > and now run through a feistel cipher, with a 256bit key and 100 rounds,
> > base64 encoded:
> >
> > L2x3Z3E2JWQ1OysuZjZlMydqbmc1JjUrLD1xfDJoJWg8anZvOSRmMTRoKHFoJTIzMWV7IDhtYmx8MT5gMTQ=
> >
> > IMHO not bad for an SMS etc..
> >
> > Regards
> > Stefan
> I have lots of folks send me links this way:
>
> https://yopass.se/

Looks like a nice solution as well, but OnionShare's chat option is for realtime
comms and with my proposal for near realtime comms, so to speak.

Regards
Stefan

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On 2022-02-22, Stefan Claas <spam.trap.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 6:02:34 PM UTC+1, Stefan Claas wrote:
>> If you live in Germany, you may have heart that sometimes
>> people run into trouble via chats, because the communication
>> is not properly protected.
>>
>> Third parties, knowing the chat locations can simply read
>> and run a protocol of the session(s).
>>
>> It is IMHO advisable, to take a closer look at OnionChat,
>
> Typo, OnionShare, sorry!
>
> Regards
> Stefan

Typo heart heard

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On Sat, 05 Mar 2022 11:20:59 GMT, elvis-85792@notatla.org.uk wrote:
>Ste

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