https://www.imore.com/apple/apples-market-value-jumps-by-a-record-breaking-dollar191-billion-in-one-day

“Apple's market cap jumped by a whopping $190.9 billion on Thursday, making
it the biggest single-day jump from a US-listed company. Apple's surge beat
the previously held record by Amazon from February 2022, when the company's
valuation had jumped by $190.8 billion, says Bloomberg. Apple also now has
four spots in the top five list of the biggest daily market cap gains, with
Amazon taking the leftover spot.”

Apple is doomed! DOOMED I say! 🤣

Bob Campbell wrote:

>
>https://www.imore.com/apple/apples-market-value-jumps-by-a-record-breaking-dollar191-billion-in-one-day
>
>“Apple's market cap jumped by a whopping $190.9 billion on Thursday,
>making it the biggest single-day jump from a US-listed company.
>Apple's surge beat the previously held record by Amazon from February
>2022, when the company's valuation had jumped by $190.8 billion, says
>Bloomberg. Apple also now has four spots in the top five list of the
>biggest daily market cap gains, with Amazon taking the leftover spot.”
>
>Apple is doomed! DOOMED I say! 🤣

Market capitalization is a measure of investor greed, not necessarily
corporate innovation or practices. Just look at GE or Enron.

On 11/15/2022 7:10 AM, badgolferman wrote:
> Bob Campbell wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.imore.com/apple/apples-market-value-jumps-by-a-record-breaking-dollar191-billion-in-one-day
>>
>> “Apple's market cap jumped by a whopping $190.9 billion on Thursday,
>> making it the biggest single-day jump from a US-listed company.
>> Apple's surge beat the previously held record by Amazon from February
>> 2022, when the company's valuation had jumped by $190.8 billion, says
>> Bloomberg. Apple also now has four spots in the top five list of the
>> biggest daily market cap gains, with Amazon taking the leftover spot.”
>>
>> Apple is doomed! DOOMED I say! 🤣
>
>
> Market capitalization is a measure of investor greed, not necessarily
> corporate innovation or practices. Just look at GE or Enron.

A growing market-cap indicates a financially well-managed company.

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bob Campbell wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.imore.com/apple/apples-market-value-jumps-by-a-record-breaking-dollar191-billion-in-one-day
>>
>> “Apple's market cap jumped by a whopping $190.9 billion on Thursday,
>> making it the biggest single-day jump from a US-listed company.
>> Apple's surge beat the previously held record by Amazon from February
>> 2022, when the company's valuation had jumped by $190.8 billion, says
>> Bloomberg. Apple also now has four spots in the top five list of the
>> biggest daily market cap gains, with Amazon taking the leftover spot.”
>>
>> Apple is doomed! DOOMED I say! 🤣
>
>
> Market capitalization is a measure of investor greed, not necessarily
> corporate innovation or practices. Just look at GE or Enron.

Yes, of course. DO try to spin this as “bad news”. 🙄

But if it truly WAS bad news, then the Bad News Trolls would have posted
it.

On 2022-11-15 07:10, badgolferman wrote:
> Bob Campbell wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.imore.com/apple/apples-market-value-jumps-by-a-record-breaking-dollar191-billion-in-one-day
>>
>> “Apple's market cap jumped by a whopping $190.9 billion on Thursday,
>> making it the biggest single-day jump from a US-listed company.
>> Apple's surge beat the previously held record by Amazon from February
>> 2022, when the company's valuation had jumped by $190.8 billion, says
>> Bloomberg. Apple also now has four spots in the top five list of the
>> biggest daily market cap gains, with Amazon taking the leftover spot.”
>>
>> Apple is doomed! DOOMED I say! 🤣
>
>
> Market capitalization is a measure of investor greed, not necessarily
> corporate innovation or practices. Just look at GE or Enron.

And yet, you trolls used Apple's market cap, revenues, profits, etc. as
"proof" of Apple's failures when they were poor...

sms wrote:

> On 11/15/2022 7:10 AM, badgolferman wrote:
>> Bob Campbell wrote:
>>> "Apple's market cap jumped by a whopping $190.9 billion on Thursday
>> Market capitalization is a measure of investor greed, not necessarily
>> corporate innovation or practices. Just look at GE or Enron.
>
> A growing market-cap indicates a financially well-managed company.

While there's nothing wrong with Apple having a high market capitalization,
what's rather peculiar is the iKooks always gloat that "their choice" is
Apple and that "their choice" makes those ungodly profits off the iKooks.

Bearing in mind sheep led to slaughter, you can't make those ungodly profit
margins on the iPhone and Apple advertising revenue off intelligent people.

When you _study_ why iKooks gloat over Apple's profit margins, you realize
that the iKooks are using Apple's success as their confirmation bias datum.
--
Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
which, in this case, is to outline why iKooks love being gouged by Apple.

On 2022-11-15 09:08, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> sms wrote:
>
>> On 11/15/2022 7:10 AM, badgolferman wrote:
>>> Bob Campbell wrote:
>>>> "Apple's market cap jumped by a whopping $190.9 billion on Thursday
>>> Market capitalization is a measure of investor greed, not necessarily
>>> corporate innovation or practices.  Just look at GE or Enron.
>>
>> A growing market-cap indicates a financially well-managed company.
>
> While there's nothing wrong with Apple having a high market capitalization,
> what's rather peculiar is the iKooks always gloat that "their choice" is
> Apple and that "their choice" makes those ungodly profits off the iKooks.
>
> Bearing in mind sheep led to slaughter, you can't make those ungodly profit
> margins on the iPhone and Apple advertising revenue off intelligent people.
>
> When you _study_ why iKooks gloat over Apple's profit margins, you realize
> that the iKooks are using Apple's success as their confirmation bias datum.
> --
> Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
> which, in this case, is to outline why iKooks love being gouged by Apple.

You deserve to be bitch-slapped more than almost anyone I've ever read
on Usenet, you pompous asshole.

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote
> Bob Campbell wrote

>> https://www.imore.com/apple/apples-market-value-jumps-by-a-record-breaking-dollar191-billion-in-one-day
>>
>> “Apple's market cap jumped by a whopping $190.9 billion on Thursday,
>> making it the biggest single-day jump from a US-listed company.
>> Apple's surge beat the previously held record by Amazon from February
>> 2022, when the company's valuation had jumped by $190.8 billion, says
>> Bloomberg. Apple also now has four spots in the top five list of the
>> biggest daily market cap gains, with Amazon taking the leftover spot.”
>>
>> Apple is doomed! DOOMED I say! 🤣

> Market capitalization is a measure of investor greed,

Bullshit.

> not necessarily corporate innovation or practices. Just look at GE or
> Enron.

Just look at Apple, Amazon etc.

On Wed, 16 Nov 2022 03:08:22 +1100, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> On 11/15/2022 7:10 AM, badgolferman wrote:
>> Bob Campbell wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.imore.com/apple/apples-market-value-jumps-by-a-record-breaking-dollar191-billion-in-one-day
>>>
>>> “Apple's market cap jumped by a whopping $190.9 billion on Thursday,
>>> making it the biggest single-day jump from a US-listed company.
>>> Apple's surge beat the previously held record by Amazon from February
>>> 2022, when the company's valuation had jumped by $190.8 billion, says
>>> Bloomberg. Apple also now has four spots in the top five list of the
>>> biggest daily market cap gains, with Amazon taking the leftover spot..”
>>>
>>> Apple is doomed! DOOMED I say! 🤣
>> Market capitalization is a measure of investor greed, not necessarily
>> corporate innovation or practices. Just look at GE or Enron.
>
> A growing market-cap indicates a financially well-managed company.

Not necessarily, most obviously with Enron.

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bob Campbell wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.imore.com/apple/apples-market-value-jumps-by-a-record-breaking-dollar191-billion-in-one-day
>>
>> “Apple's market cap jumped by a whopping $190.9 billion on Thursday,
>> making it the biggest single-day jump from a US-listed company.
>> Apple's surge beat the previously held record by Amazon from February
>> 2022, when the company's valuation had jumped by $190.8 billion, says
>> Bloomberg. Apple also now has four spots in the top five list of the
>> biggest daily market cap gains, with Amazon taking the leftover spot.”
>>
>> Apple is doomed! DOOMED I say! 🤣
>
>
> Market capitalization is a measure of investor greed, not necessarily
> corporate innovation or practices.

AKA investor confidence. Given that many other bigtech are making massive
layoffs investors are looking towards stable companies which make real
money. Apple is one such company.

On 2022-11-15 12:09, Chris wrote:
> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Bob Campbell wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.imore.com/apple/apples-market-value-jumps-by-a-record-breaking-dollar191-billion-in-one-day
>>>
>>> “Apple's market cap jumped by a whopping $190.9 billion on Thursday,
>>> making it the biggest single-day jump from a US-listed company.
>>> Apple's surge beat the previously held record by Amazon from February
>>> 2022, when the company's valuation had jumped by $190.8 billion, says
>>> Bloomberg. Apple also now has four spots in the top five list of the
>>> biggest daily market cap gains, with Amazon taking the leftover spot.”
>>>
>>> Apple is doomed! DOOMED I say! 🤣
>>
>>
>> Market capitalization is a measure of investor greed, not necessarily
>> corporate innovation or practices.
>
> AKA investor confidence. Given that many other bigtech are making massive
> layoffs investors are looking towards stable companies which make real
> money. Apple is one such company.

Making real products which many, many people value highly.

farter wrote:

>> A growing market-cap indicates a financially well-managed company.
>
> Not necessarily, most obviously with Enron.

Market cap is a function of what investors _believe_ about Apple.

If investors believe Apple customers are beguiled ignorant uneducated
unquestioning sheep led to slaughter, then the market cap will be higher
than if investors believe Apple customers own a modicum of intelligence.

The higher the profit margins, the more ignorant the customer base when the
product being sold is a mere commodity (which a smartphone clearly is).

On 2022-11-15 16:16, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> farter wrote:
>
>>> A growing market-cap indicates a financially well-managed company.
>>
>> Not necessarily, most obviously with Enron.
>
> Market cap is a function of what investors _believe_ about Apple.
>
> If investors believe Apple customers are beguiled ignorant uneducated
> unquestioning sheep led to slaughter, then the market cap will be higher
> than if investors believe Apple customers own a modicum of intelligence.
>
> The higher the profit margins, the more ignorant the customer base when the
> product being sold is a mere commodity (which a smartphone clearly is).

Because you saying "clearly" decides it.

You know what: there are lots and lots of people smarter than you are
who choose to use Apple's devices.

Deal with it.

Chris wrote:

>> Market capitalization is a measure of investor greed, not necessarily
>> corporate innovation or practices.
>
> AKA investor confidence. Given that many other bigtech are making massive
> layoffs investors are looking towards stable companies which make real
> money. Apple is one such company.

Market cap isn't "only" investor confidence though, as nobody would have a
market cap less than the value of assets they own in typical circumstances.

Given Apple's ungodly profit margins coupled with extremely high
advertising and the absolute lowest R&D in the entire industry...

And given the fact Apple pays _billions_ every single year in penalties for
public lies (e.g., throttling where Apple admitted _criminal guilt_)...

*It's clear what Apple is to those who own a modicum of intelligence.*

On 2022-11-15 17:25, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Chris wrote:
>
>>> Market capitalization is a measure of investor greed, not necessarily
>>> corporate innovation or practices.
>>
>> AKA investor confidence. Given that many other bigtech are making massive
>> layoffs investors are looking towards stable companies which make real
>> money.  Apple is one such company.
>
> Market cap isn't "only" investor confidence though, as nobody would have a
> market cap less than the value of assets they own in typical circumstances.
>
> Given Apple's ungodly profit margins coupled with extremely high
> advertising and the absolute lowest R&D in the entire industry...

Why must you lie...

> And given the fact Apple pays _billions_ every single year in penalties for
> public lies (e.g., throttling where Apple admitted _criminal guilt_)...

....and lie, and lie again?

> *It's clear what Apple is to those who own a modicum of intelligence.*

On 2022-11-15 17:25, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Chris wrote:
>
>>> Market capitalization is a measure of investor greed, not necessarily
>>> corporate innovation or practices.
>>
>> AKA investor confidence. Given that many other bigtech are making massive
>> layoffs investors are looking towards stable companies which make real
>> money.  Apple is one such company.
>
> Market cap isn't "only" investor confidence though, as nobody would have a
> market cap less than the value of assets they own in typical circumstances.
>
> Given Apple's ungodly profit margins coupled with extremely high
> advertising and the absolute lowest R&D in the entire industry...
> And given the fact Apple pays _billions_ every single year in penalties for
> public lies (e.g., throttling where Apple admitted _criminal guilt_)...
> *It's clear what Apple is to those who own a modicum of intelligence.*

Isn't it interesting that you'll declare Apple's R&D the lowest, because
of the percentage of its revenues...

....but not apply the same kind of calculation to any fines Apple pays?

:-)

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> Isn't it interesting that you'll declare Apple's R&D the lowest, because
> of the percentage of its revenues...
>
> ...but not apply the same kind of calculation to any fines Apple pays?
>
> :-)

Of course. Because troll boys gotta troll.

The facts remain. Apple is selling loads of high-quality products that
people actually line up to buy. Thus, they make huge profits. Thus,
investor confidence has never been higher. Thus, Apple is the
highest-valued company in the history of Wall Street.

Thus, the Apple Troll Boy Brigade hates life.

For the normal people, life is good.

Am 16.11.22 um 01:48 schrieb Alan:
> On 2022-11-15 16:16, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>> farter wrote:
>>
>>>> A growing market-cap indicates a financially well-managed company.
>>>
>>> Not necessarily, most obviously with Enron.
>>
>> Market cap is a function of what investors _believe_ about Apple.
>>
>> If investors believe Apple customers are beguiled ignorant uneducated
>> unquestioning sheep led to slaughter, then the market cap will be higher
>> than if investors believe Apple customers own a modicum of intelligence.
>>
>> The higher the profit margins, the more ignorant the customer base
>> when the
>> product being sold is a mere commodity (which a smartphone clearly is).
>
> Because you saying "clearly" decides it.
>
> You know what: there are lots and lots of people smarter than you are
> who choose to use Apple's devices.

And the truth is also: there are lots and lots of people much dumber
than bread who choose to use Apple's devices.

> Deal with it.

Right. Intelligence (or any other non-hard fact) is simply no way to
chose apple or non-apple

On 2022-11-16 00:49, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> Am 16.11.22 um 01:48 schrieb Alan:
>> On 2022-11-15 16:16, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>>> farter wrote:
>>>
>>>>> A growing market-cap indicates a financially well-managed company.
>>>>
>>>> Not necessarily, most obviously with Enron.
>>>
>>> Market cap is a function of what investors _believe_ about Apple.
>>>
>>> If investors believe Apple customers are beguiled ignorant uneducated
>>> unquestioning sheep led to slaughter, then the market cap will be higher
>>> than if investors believe Apple customers own a modicum of intelligence.
>>>
>>> The higher the profit margins, the more ignorant the customer base
>>> when the
>>> product being sold is a mere commodity (which a smartphone clearly is).
>>
>> Because you saying "clearly" decides it.
>>
>> You know what: there are lots and lots of people smarter than you are
>> who choose to use Apple's devices.
>
> And the truth is also: there are lots and lots of people much dumber
> than bread who choose to use Apple's devices.
>
>> Deal with it.
>
> Right. Intelligence (or any other non-hard fact) is simply no way to
> chose apple or non-apple

Ah, but it isn't my argument that only dumb people buy Apple.

On 11/15/2022 12:09 PM, Chris wrote:

<snip>

> AKA investor confidence. Given that many other bigtech are making massive
> layoffs investors are looking towards stable companies which make real
> money. Apple is one such company.

What really indicates investor confidence is not the market
capitalization but the P/E ratio.

A high-growth company will have a P/E ratio >50. A stable company with
growth potential will typically have a P/E ratio of 20-25.

A high P/E can also indicate that a stock is over-valued.

I'd be very wary of Tesla stock right now. The CEO is unstable, the
barriers to entry of new competitors is low, and there is about to be
massive competition from established automakers with much greater
manufacturing and distribution capacity.

Apple is structured to be pretty insulated from competition, is better
able to thrive in tough economic times, and has excellent management.
Ditto for Microsoft.

Amazon: 88.79
Tesla: 60.07
Walmart: 46.27
Costco: 40.11
Microsoft: 26.07
Apple: 24.56
Alphabet: 19.60
Roche: 17.71
Meta: 11.16
Intel: 9.449
IBM: 2.164

Am 15.11.22 um 17:08 schrieb sms:
> On 11/15/2022 7:10 AM, badgolferman wrote:
>> Bob Campbell wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.imore.com/apple/apples-market-value-jumps-by-a-record-breaking-dollar191-billion-in-one-day
>>>
>>> “Apple's market cap jumped by a whopping $190.9 billion on Thursday,
>>> making it the biggest single-day jump from a US-listed company.
>>> Apple's surge beat the previously held record by Amazon from February
>>> 2022, when the company's valuation had jumped by $190.8 billion, says
>>> Bloomberg. Apple also now has four spots in the top five list of the
>>> biggest daily market cap gains, with Amazon taking the leftover spot.”
>>>
>>> Apple is doomed! DOOMED I say! 🤣
>>
>>
>> Market capitalization is a measure of investor greed, not necessarily
>> corporate innovation or practices. Just look at GE or Enron.
>
> A growing market-cap indicates a financially well-managed company.

False. It indicates only *the opinion of the market* about the
management of the company.

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

On 16 Nov 2022 at 8:49:06 AM, <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

> And the truth is also: there are lots and lots of people much dumber
> than bread who choose to use Apple's devices.

Aren't iOS devices marketed exclusively to people who don't know much and
who then want Apple to make all their decisions for them to protect them?
--
Cheers, Rob

In article <tl2t22$2c5d9$2@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

>
> Apple is structured to be pretty insulated from competition,

apple has intense competition, including from windows, android,
smartwatches, video streaming and various other segments.

In article <tl2unf$ou2$1@gioia.aioe.org>, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>
wrote:

> Aren't iOS devices marketed exclusively to people who don't know much and
> who then want Apple to make all their decisions for them to protect them?

nope. not even close to correct. you're trolling again.

On Nov 15, 2022, Bob Campbell wrote
(in article<news:uGWdnUv2Zd4k-en-nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@supernews.com>):

> The facts remain. Apple is selling loads of high-quality products that
> people actually line up to buy. Thus, they make huge profits.

There are many pyramid schemes making billions off innocent victims.

> Thus, investor confidence has never been higher.

Even the SEC had decades of high investor confidence in Bernie Madoff.

> Thus, Apple is the
> highest-valued company in the history of Wall Street.

So was Enron.

Ron, the humblest guy in town.