My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on
4/28/2021 9:25 PM:
> My bloviated meandering follows what Rene Lamontagne graced us with on
> 4/28/2021 7:46 PM:
>> On 2021-04-28 9:11 p.m., Sailfish wrote:
>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Teddy-Bears graced us with on
>>> 4/28/2021 8:30 AM:
>>>> On 4/28/21 10:39 AM, this is what s|b wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 03:12:56 -0400, Teddy-Bears wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pull the Ethernet cable out.
>>>>>
>>>>> My first thought as well.
>>>>>
>>>> Kinda what Rene Lamontagne said earlier, a RJ45 switch you can just
>>>> toggle on/off.
>>>>
>>> Ethernet A/B switch?
>>> https://www.amazon.com/MT-VIKI-Network-Splitter-Selector-MT-RJ45-2M/dp/B00DRG1SLO
>>
>> Yep, that's exactly the one I use.
>>
> +1
>
While this is a sure-fire way to ensure a quick internet disconnect,
there are a couple of drawbacks. The biggest one is that once one
re-enables it, it may take some time to resynchonize with one's wireless
router and another would be if one is using a VoIP device like, ooma,
for home telephone service (which normally coonects to one of the
Ethernet ports on your router.)

--
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 20:23:35 -0700, Sailfish
<NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com> wrote:

>My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on
>4/28/2021 9:25 PM:
>> My bloviated meandering follows what Rene Lamontagne graced us with on
>> 4/28/2021 7:46 PM:
>>> On 2021-04-28 9:11 p.m., Sailfish wrote:
>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Teddy-Bears graced us with on
>>>> 4/28/2021 8:30 AM:
>>>>> On 4/28/21 10:39 AM, this is what s|b wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 03:12:56 -0400, Teddy-Bears wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pull the Ethernet cable out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My first thought as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Kinda what Rene Lamontagne said earlier, a RJ45 switch you can just
>>>>> toggle on/off.
>>>>>
>>>> Ethernet A/B switch?
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/MT-VIKI-Network-Splitter-Selector-MT-RJ45-2M/dp/B00DRG1SLO
>>>
>>> Yep, that's exactly the one I use.
>>>
>> +1
>>
>While this is a sure-fire way to ensure a quick internet disconnect,
>there are a couple of drawbacks. The biggest one is that once one
>re-enables it, it may take some time to resynchonize with one's wireless
>router

The device they've been discussing works with a _wired_ Internet
connection, not wireless. You could use it with a wireless connection, but
you'd have to go out of your way to set it up that way.

>and another would be if one is using a VoIP device like, ooma,
>for home telephone service (which normally coonects to one of the
>Ethernet ports on your router.)

Someone using an Ethernet switch would likely place it close to the PC that
they're trying to protect, so devices that are directly connected to the
router, such as an Ooma, wouldn't be affected.

--

Char Jackson

"Sailfish" <NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com> wrote

| While this is a sure-fire way to ensure a quick internet disconnect,
| there are a couple of drawbacks. The biggest one is that once one
| re-enables it, it may take some time to resynchonize with one's wireless
| router

About 3 seconds. I disconnect regularly during the
day. Reconnecting only requires that I pause a moment
before trying to be online. Often I'm restarting from
sleep, anyway, so it doesn't matter.

My bloviated meandering follows what Char Jackson graced us with on
4/30/2021 9:37 PM:
> On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 20:23:35 -0700, Sailfish
> <NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com> wrote:
>
>> My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on
>> 4/28/2021 9:25 PM:
>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Rene Lamontagne graced us with on
>>> 4/28/2021 7:46 PM:
>>>> On 2021-04-28 9:11 p.m., Sailfish wrote:
>>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Teddy-Bears graced us with on
>>>>> 4/28/2021 8:30 AM:
>>>>>> On 4/28/21 10:39 AM, this is what s|b wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 03:12:56 -0400, Teddy-Bears wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pull the Ethernet cable out.
>>>>>>> My first thought as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kinda what Rene Lamontagne said earlier, a RJ45 switch you can just
>>>>>> toggle on/off.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Ethernet A/B switch?
>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/MT-VIKI-Network-Splitter-Selector-MT-RJ45-2M/dp/B00DRG1SLO
>>>> Yep, that's exactly the one I use.
>>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>> While this is a sure-fire way to ensure a quick internet disconnect,
>> there are a couple of drawbacks. The biggest one is that once one
>> re-enables it, it may take some time to resynchonize with one's wireless
>> router
>
> The device they've been discussing works with a _wired_ Internet
> connection, not wireless. You could use it with a wireless connection, but
> you'd have to go out of your way to set it up that way.
>
Yes, I'm aware. I was assuming, perhaps wrongly?, that the person had a
separate modem and wireless router, such as I have, rather than an
integrated unit that housed both the modem and router in one. In which
case, switching off the modem signal to the separated router would
require a resynchronization when switched back on. Additionally, as part
of the resynchronization, there can be a switch to the primary IP
address, further complicating to re-connection.

>> and another would be if one is using a VoIP device like, ooma,
>> for home telephone service (which normally coonects to one of the
>> Ethernet ports on your router.)
>
> Someone using an Ethernet switch would likely place it close to the PC that
> they're trying to protect, so devices that are directly connected to the
> router, such as an Ooma, wouldn't be affected.
>
I beg to differ. My ooma device is located close to my router which is
located close to the cable ethernet wall outlet. In which case, I have
my VoIP device cable model and wireless router housed in a cabinet with
my portable wireless phone base station which connect to the VoIP box's
phone jack port.

--
Sailfish
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My bloviated meandering follows what Mayayana graced us with on 5/1/2021
4:37 AM:
> "Sailfish" <NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com> wrote
>
> | While this is a sure-fire way to ensure a quick internet disconnect,
> | there are a couple of drawbacks. The biggest one is that once one
> | re-enables it, it may take some time to resynchonize with one's wireless
> | router
>
> About 3 seconds. I disconnect regularly during the
> day. Reconnecting only requires that I pause a moment
> before trying to be online. Often I'm restarting from
> sleep, anyway, so it doesn't matter.
>
Hmm, I'm with Charter/Spectrum which takes longer for my devices to
resynchronize.

--
Sailfish
CDC Covid19 Trends: https://www.facebook.com/groups/624208354841034
Rare Mozilla Stuff: http://tinyurl.com/z86x3sg

On 2021-05-01 9:15 a.m., Sailfish wrote:
> My bloviated meandering follows what Char Jackson graced us with on
> 4/30/2021 9:37 PM:
>> On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 20:23:35 -0700, Sailfish
>> <NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on
>>> 4/28/2021 9:25 PM:
>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Rene Lamontagne graced us with
>>>> on 4/28/2021 7:46 PM:
>>>>> On 2021-04-28 9:11 p.m., Sailfish wrote:
>>>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Teddy-Bears graced us with on
>>>>>> 4/28/2021 8:30 AM:
>>>>>>> On 4/28/21 10:39 AM, this is what s|b wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 03:12:56 -0400, Teddy-Bears wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pull the Ethernet cable out.
>>>>>>>> My first thought as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kinda what Rene Lamontagne said earlier, a RJ45 switch you can
>>>>>>> just toggle on/off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ethernet A/B switch?
>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/MT-VIKI-Network-Splitter-Selector-MT-RJ45-2M/dp/B00DRG1SLO
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, that's exactly the one I use.
>>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>> While this is a sure-fire way to ensure a quick internet disconnect,
>>> there are a couple of drawbacks. The biggest one is that once one
>>> re-enables it, it may take some time to resynchonize with one's
>>> wireless router
>>
>> The device they've been discussing works with a _wired_ Internet
>> connection, not wireless. You could use it with a wireless connection,
>> but
>> you'd have to go out of your way to set it up that way.
>>
> Yes, I'm aware. I was assuming, perhaps wrongly?, that the person had a
> separate modem and wireless router, such as I have, rather than an
> integrated unit that housed both the modem and router in one. In which
> case, switching off the modem signal to the separated router would
> require a resynchronization when switched back on. Additionally, as part
> of the resynchronization, there can be a switch to the primary IP
> address, further complicating to re-connection.
>
>>> and another would be if one is using a VoIP device like, ooma, for
>>> home telephone service (which normally coonects to one of the
>>> Ethernet ports on your router.)
>>
>> Someone using an Ethernet switch would likely place it close to the PC
>> that
>> they're trying to protect, so devices that are directly connected to the
>> router, such as an Ooma, wouldn't be affected.
>>
> I beg to differ. My ooma device is located close to my router which is
> located close to the cable ethernet wall outlet. In which case, I have
> my VoIP device cable model and wireless router housed in a cabinet with
> my portable wireless phone base station which connect to the VoIP box's
> phone jack port.
>

It reconnects nearly instantly. Since the switch is between its own
router port and the computer, none of the other 3 devices and computers
are affected.

Rene

My bloviated meandering follows what Rene Lamontagne graced us with on
5/1/2021 7:34 AM:
> On 2021-05-01 9:15 a.m., Sailfish wrote:
>> My bloviated meandering follows what Char Jackson graced us with on
>> 4/30/2021 9:37 PM:
>>> On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 20:23:35 -0700, Sailfish
>>> <NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on
>>>> 4/28/2021 9:25 PM:
>>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Rene Lamontagne graced us with
>>>>> on 4/28/2021 7:46 PM:
>>>>>> On 2021-04-28 9:11 p.m., Sailfish wrote:
>>>>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Teddy-Bears graced us with
>>>>>>> on 4/28/2021 8:30 AM:
>>>>>>>> On 4/28/21 10:39 AM, this is what s|b wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 03:12:56 -0400, Teddy-Bears wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pull the Ethernet cable out.
>>>>>>>>> My first thought as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kinda what Rene Lamontagne said earlier, a RJ45 switch you can
>>>>>>>> just toggle on/off.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ethernet A/B switch?
>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/MT-VIKI-Network-Splitter-Selector-MT-RJ45-2M/dp/B00DRG1SLO
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, that's exactly the one I use.
>>>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>> While this is a sure-fire way to ensure a quick internet disconnect,
>>>> there are a couple of drawbacks. The biggest one is that once one
>>>> re-enables it, it may take some time to resynchonize with one's
>>>> wireless router
>>>
>>> The device they've been discussing works with a _wired_ Internet
>>> connection, not wireless. You could use it with a wireless
>>> connection, but
>>> you'd have to go out of your way to set it up that way.
>>>
>> Yes, I'm aware. I was assuming, perhaps wrongly?, that the person had
>> a separate modem and wireless router, such as I have, rather than an
>> integrated unit that housed both the modem and router in one. In which
>> case, switching off the modem signal to the separated router would
>> require a resynchronization when switched back on. Additionally, as
>> part of the resynchronization, there can be a switch to the primary IP
>> address, further complicating to re-connection.
>>
>>>> and another would be if one is using a VoIP device like, ooma, for
>>>> home telephone service (which normally coonects to one of the
>>>> Ethernet ports on your router.)
>>>
>>> Someone using an Ethernet switch would likely place it close to the
>>> PC that
>>> they're trying to protect, so devices that are directly connected to the
>>> router, such as an Ooma, wouldn't be affected.
>>>
>> I beg to differ. My ooma device is located close to my router which is
>> located close to the cable ethernet wall outlet. In which case, I have
>> my VoIP device cable model and wireless router housed in a cabinet
>> with my portable wireless phone base station which connect to the VoIP
>> box's phone jack port.
>
> It reconnects nearly instantly. Since the switch is between its own
> router port and the computer, none of the other 3 devices and computers
> are affected.
>
Hmm, perhaps I'm misunderstanding your configuration? It sounds like you
are connected to your computer via the ethernet port of the router,
rather than wirelessly, yes?

--
Sailfish
CDC Covid19 Trends: https://www.facebook.com/groups/624208354841034
Rare Mozilla Stuff: http://tinyurl.com/z86x3sg

On 2021-05-01 10:00 a.m., Sailfish wrote:
> My bloviated meandering follows what Rene Lamontagne graced us with on
> 5/1/2021 7:34 AM:
>> On 2021-05-01 9:15 a.m., Sailfish wrote:
>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Char Jackson graced us with on
>>> 4/30/2021 9:37 PM:
>>>> On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 20:23:35 -0700, Sailfish
>>>> <NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on
>>>>> 4/28/2021 9:25 PM:
>>>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Rene Lamontagne graced us
>>>>>> with on 4/28/2021 7:46 PM:
>>>>>>> On 2021-04-28 9:11 p.m., Sailfish wrote:
>>>>>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Teddy-Bears graced us with
>>>>>>>> on 4/28/2021 8:30 AM:
>>>>>>>>> On 4/28/21 10:39 AM, this is what s|b wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 03:12:56 -0400, Teddy-Bears wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pull the Ethernet cable out.
>>>>>>>>>> My first thought as well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kinda what Rene Lamontagne said earlier, a RJ45 switch you can
>>>>>>>>> just toggle on/off.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ethernet A/B switch?
>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/MT-VIKI-Network-Splitter-Selector-MT-RJ45-2M/dp/B00DRG1SLO
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, that's exactly the one I use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>
>>>>> While this is a sure-fire way to ensure a quick internet
>>>>> disconnect, there are a couple of drawbacks. The biggest one is
>>>>> that once one re-enables it, it may take some time to resynchonize
>>>>> with one's wireless router
>>>>
>>>> The device they've been discussing works with a _wired_ Internet
>>>> connection, not wireless. You could use it with a wireless
>>>> connection, but
>>>> you'd have to go out of your way to set it up that way.
>>>>
>>> Yes, I'm aware. I was assuming, perhaps wrongly?, that the person had
>>> a separate modem and wireless router, such as I have, rather than an
>>> integrated unit that housed both the modem and router in one. In
>>> which case, switching off the modem signal to the separated router
>>> would require a resynchronization when switched back on.
>>> Additionally, as part of the resynchronization, there can be a switch
>>> to the primary IP address, further complicating to re-connection.
>>>
>>>>> and another would be if one is using a VoIP device like, ooma, for
>>>>> home telephone service (which normally coonects to one of the
>>>>> Ethernet ports on your router.)
>>>>
>>>> Someone using an Ethernet switch would likely place it close to the
>>>> PC that
>>>> they're trying to protect, so devices that are directly connected to
>>>> the
>>>> router, such as an Ooma, wouldn't be affected.
>>>>
>>> I beg to differ. My ooma device is located close to my router which
>>> is located close to the cable ethernet wall outlet. In which case, I
>>> have my VoIP device cable model and wireless router housed in a
>>> cabinet with my portable wireless phone base station which connect to
>>> the VoIP box's phone jack port.
>>
>> It reconnects nearly instantly.  Since the switch is between its  own
>> router port and the computer, none of the other 3 devices and
>> computers are affected.
>>
> Hmm, perhaps I'm misunderstanding your configuration? It sounds like you
> are connected to your computer via the ethernet port of the router,
> rather than wirelessly, yes?
>

Yes indeed, all my devices and computers are connected with CAT5
cables, 2 computers, Laser printer and Amazon Alexa firestick for TV.

Rene

My bloviated meandering follows what Rene Lamontagne graced us with on
5/1/2021 8:28 AM:
> On 2021-05-01 10:00 a.m., Sailfish wrote:
>> My bloviated meandering follows what Rene Lamontagne graced us with on
>> 5/1/2021 7:34 AM:
>>> On 2021-05-01 9:15 a.m., Sailfish wrote:
>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Char Jackson graced us with on
>>>> 4/30/2021 9:37 PM:
>>>>> On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 20:23:35 -0700, Sailfish
>>>>> <NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on
>>>>>> 4/28/2021 9:25 PM:
>>>>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Rene Lamontagne graced us
>>>>>>> with on 4/28/2021 7:46 PM:
>>>>>>>> On 2021-04-28 9:11 p.m., Sailfish wrote:
>>>>>>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Teddy-Bears graced us with
>>>>>>>>> on 4/28/2021 8:30 AM:
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/28/21 10:39 AM, this is what s|b wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 03:12:56 -0400, Teddy-Bears wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pull the Ethernet cable out.
>>>>>>>>>>> My first thought as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kinda what Rene Lamontagne said earlier, a RJ45 switch you can
>>>>>>>>>> just toggle on/off.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ethernet A/B switch?
>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/MT-VIKI-Network-Splitter-Selector-MT-RJ45-2M/dp/B00DRG1SLO
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep, that's exactly the one I use.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> While this is a sure-fire way to ensure a quick internet
>>>>>> disconnect, there are a couple of drawbacks. The biggest one is
>>>>>> that once one re-enables it, it may take some time to resynchonize
>>>>>> with one's wireless router
>>>>>
>>>>> The device they've been discussing works with a _wired_ Internet
>>>>> connection, not wireless. You could use it with a wireless
>>>>> connection, but
>>>>> you'd have to go out of your way to set it up that way.
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, I'm aware. I was assuming, perhaps wrongly?, that the person
>>>> had a separate modem and wireless router, such as I have, rather
>>>> than an integrated unit that housed both the modem and router in
>>>> one. In which case, switching off the modem signal to the separated
>>>> router would require a resynchronization when switched back on.
>>>> Additionally, as part of the resynchronization, there can be a
>>>> switch to the primary IP address, further complicating to
>>>> re-connection.
>>>>
>>>>>> and another would be if one is using a VoIP device like, ooma, for
>>>>>> home telephone service (which normally coonects to one of the
>>>>>> Ethernet ports on your router.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Someone using an Ethernet switch would likely place it close to the
>>>>> PC that
>>>>> they're trying to protect, so devices that are directly connected
>>>>> to the
>>>>> router, such as an Ooma, wouldn't be affected.
>>>>>
>>>> I beg to differ. My ooma device is located close to my router which
>>>> is located close to the cable ethernet wall outlet. In which case, I
>>>> have my VoIP device cable model and wireless router housed in a
>>>> cabinet with my portable wireless phone base station which connect
>>>> to the VoIP box's phone jack port.
>>>
>>> It reconnects nearly instantly. Since the switch is between its own
>>> router port and the computer, none of the other 3 devices and
>>> computers are affected.
>>>
>> Hmm, perhaps I'm misunderstanding your configuration? It sounds like
>> you are connected to your computer via the ethernet port of the
>> router, rather than wirelessly, yes?
>
> Yes indeed, all my devices and computers are connected with CAT5
> cables, 2 computers, Laser printer and Amazon Alexa firestick for TV.
>
ah-Ha!

That explains our misunderstanding. Yes, if devices are connected using
CAT5/6 directly then an almost instantaneous reconnect should be
expected. If devices are connected via router wifi, then my cautions apply.

--
Sailfish
CDC Covid19 Trends: https://www.facebook.com/groups/624208354841034
Rare Mozilla Stuff: http://tinyurl.com/z86x3sg

On 2021-05-01 11:46 a.m., Sailfish wrote:
> My bloviated meandering follows what Rene Lamontagne graced us with on
> 5/1/2021 8:28 AM:
>> On 2021-05-01 10:00 a.m., Sailfish wrote:
>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Rene Lamontagne graced us with
>>> on 5/1/2021 7:34 AM:
>>>> On 2021-05-01 9:15 a.m., Sailfish wrote:
>>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Char Jackson graced us with on
>>>>> 4/30/2021 9:37 PM:
>>>>>> On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 20:23:35 -0700, Sailfish
>>>>>> <NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on
>>>>>>> 4/28/2021 9:25 PM:
>>>>>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Rene Lamontagne graced us
>>>>>>>> with on 4/28/2021 7:46 PM:
>>>>>>>>> On 2021-04-28 9:11 p.m., Sailfish wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Teddy-Bears graced us
>>>>>>>>>> with on 4/28/2021 8:30 AM:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/28/21 10:39 AM, this is what s|b wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 03:12:56 -0400, Teddy-Bears wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pull the Ethernet cable out.
>>>>>>>>>>>> My first thought as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kinda what Rene Lamontagne said earlier, a RJ45 switch you
>>>>>>>>>>> can just toggle on/off.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ethernet A/B switch?
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/MT-VIKI-Network-Splitter-Selector-MT-RJ45-2M/dp/B00DRG1SLO
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yep, that's exactly the one I use.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While this is a sure-fire way to ensure a quick internet
>>>>>>> disconnect, there are a couple of drawbacks. The biggest one is
>>>>>>> that once one re-enables it, it may take some time to
>>>>>>> resynchonize with one's wireless router
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The device they've been discussing works with a _wired_ Internet
>>>>>> connection, not wireless. You could use it with a wireless
>>>>>> connection, but
>>>>>> you'd have to go out of your way to set it up that way.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I'm aware. I was assuming, perhaps wrongly?, that the person
>>>>> had a separate modem and wireless router, such as I have, rather
>>>>> than an integrated unit that housed both the modem and router in
>>>>> one. In which case, switching off the modem signal to the separated
>>>>> router would require a resynchronization when switched back on.
>>>>> Additionally, as part of the resynchronization, there can be a
>>>>> switch to the primary IP address, further complicating to
>>>>> re-connection.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> and another would be if one is using a VoIP device like, ooma,
>>>>>>> for home telephone service (which normally coonects to one of the
>>>>>>> Ethernet ports on your router.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone using an Ethernet switch would likely place it close to
>>>>>> the PC that
>>>>>> they're trying to protect, so devices that are directly connected
>>>>>> to the
>>>>>> router, such as an Ooma, wouldn't be affected.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I beg to differ. My ooma device is located close to my router which
>>>>> is located close to the cable ethernet wall outlet. In which case,
>>>>> I have my VoIP device cable model and wireless router housed in a
>>>>> cabinet with my portable wireless phone base station which connect
>>>>> to the VoIP box's phone jack port.
>>>>
>>>> It reconnects nearly instantly.  Since the switch is between its
>>>> own router port and the computer, none of the other 3 devices and
>>>> computers are affected.
>>>>
>>> Hmm, perhaps I'm misunderstanding your configuration? It sounds like
>>> you are connected to your computer via the ethernet port of the
>>> router, rather than wirelessly, yes?
>>
>> Yes indeed,  all my devices and computers are connected with CAT5
>> cables, 2 computers, Laser printer and Amazon Alexa firestick for TV.
>>
> ah-Ha!
>
> That explains our misunderstanding. Yes, if devices are connected using
> CAT5/6 directly then an almost instantaneous reconnect should be
> expected. If devices are connected via router wifi, then my cautions apply.
>

Check.

Rene

On 4/27/2021 12:08 AM, Aoli wrote:
> How do I simply turn on and off my LAN / Internet access on my PC ?
>

To me, all the hardware solutions appear problematical. Unplugging and
then plugging back in eventually creates wear on the plugs; it also
requires that the plugs be accessible and not behind the computer.
Turning the router or modem off affects all users; this too requires
accessibility (e.g., the devices are not in another room).

That is why I earlier suggested Network Activity Indicator as a software
solution. It takes 2-3 seconds to disable the connection between my PC
and my router and 4-5 seconds to enable the connection. While my
connection is disabled, my wife's connection is not affected.

--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

News item: "Conservative U.S. House Republicans to
form 'America First' caucus"

During the 1930s, America First was a pro-Nazi political movement.

On 5/1/2021 5:47 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 4/27/2021 12:08 AM, Aoli wrote:
>> How do I simply turn on and off my LAN / Internet access on my PC ?
>>
>
> To me, all the hardware solutions appear problematical. Unplugging and
> then plugging back in eventually creates wear on the plugs; it also
> requires that the plugs be accessible and not behind the computer.
> Turning the router or modem off affects all users; this too requires
> accessibility (e.g., the devices are not in another room).
>
> That is why I earlier suggested Network Activity Indicator as a software
> solution. It takes 2-3 seconds to disable the connection between my PC
> and my router and 4-5 seconds to enable the connection. While my
> connection is disabled, my wife's connection is not affected.
>

I almost forgot another problem with hardware solutions. Turning the
router or modem off might be okay. When you turn the device back on,
however, you must then wait for it to initialize.

--
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form 'America First' caucus"

During the 1930s, America First was a pro-Nazi political movement.

On Sat, 01 May 2021 07:15:38 -0700, Sailfish
<NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com> wrote:

>My bloviated meandering follows what Char Jackson graced us with on
>4/30/2021 9:37 PM:
>> On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 20:23:35 -0700, Sailfish
>> <NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on
>>> 4/28/2021 9:25 PM:
>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Rene Lamontagne graced us with on
>>>> 4/28/2021 7:46 PM:
>>>>> On 2021-04-28 9:11 p.m., Sailfish wrote:
>>>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Teddy-Bears graced us with on
>>>>>> 4/28/2021 8:30 AM:
>>>>>>> On 4/28/21 10:39 AM, this is what s|b wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 03:12:56 -0400, Teddy-Bears wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pull the Ethernet cable out.
>>>>>>>> My first thought as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kinda what Rene Lamontagne said earlier, a RJ45 switch you can just
>>>>>>> toggle on/off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ethernet A/B switch?
>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/MT-VIKI-Network-Splitter-Selector-MT-RJ45-2M/dp/B00DRG1SLO
>>>>> Yep, that's exactly the one I use.
>>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>> While this is a sure-fire way to ensure a quick internet disconnect,
>>> there are a couple of drawbacks. The biggest one is that once one
>>> re-enables it, it may take some time to resynchonize with one's wireless
>>> router
>>
>> The device they've been discussing works with a _wired_ Internet
>> connection, not wireless. You could use it with a wireless connection, but
>> you'd have to go out of your way to set it up that way.
>>
>Yes, I'm aware. I was assuming, perhaps wrongly?, that the person had a
>separate modem and wireless router, such as I have, rather than an
>integrated unit that housed both the modem and router in one. In which
>case, switching off the modem signal to the separated router would
>require a resynchronization when switched back on. Additionally, as part
>of the resynchronization, there can be a switch to the primary IP
>address, further complicating to re-connection.
>
>>> and another would be if one is using a VoIP device like, ooma,
>>> for home telephone service (which normally coonects to one of the
>>> Ethernet ports on your router.)
>>
>> Someone using an Ethernet switch would likely place it close to the PC that
>> they're trying to protect, so devices that are directly connected to the
>> router, such as an Ooma, wouldn't be affected.
>>
>I beg to differ. My ooma device is located close to my router which is
>located close to the cable ethernet wall outlet. In which case, I have
>my VoIP device cable model and wireless router housed in a cabinet with
>my portable wireless phone base station which connect to the VoIP box's
>phone jack port.

You misunderstood what I was saying but I see that you and Rene have
figured it out.

--

Char Jackson

My bloviated meandering follows what Char Jackson graced us with on
5/1/2021 11:05 PM:
> On Sat, 01 May 2021 07:15:38 -0700, Sailfish
> <NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com> wrote:
>>>
>> I beg to differ. My ooma device is located close to my router which is
>> located close to the cable ethernet wall outlet. In which case, I have
>> my VoIP device cable model and wireless router housed in a cabinet with
>> my portable wireless phone base station which connect to the VoIP box's
>> phone jack port.
>
> You misunderstood what I was saying but I see that you and Rene have
> figured it out.
>
+1

--
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On Sat, 1 May 2021 17:47:41 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:
>
> On 4/27/2021 12:08 AM, Aoli wrote:
> > How do I simply turn on and off my LAN / Internet access on my PC
>
> To me, all the hardware solutions appear problematical. Unplugging and
> then plugging back in eventually creates wear on the plugs; it also
> requires that the plugs be accessible and not behind the computer.
> Turning the router or modem off affects all users; this too requires
> accessibility (e.g., the devices are not in another room).

I agree with everything in the above paragraph.
> That is why I earlier suggested Network Activity Indicator as a software
> solution. It takes 2-3 seconds to disable the connection between my PC
> and my router and 4-5 seconds to enable the connection. ...

I don't agree, but this is a matter of personal taste, not a matter of
right and wrong. I prefer not to install a third-party solution when I
can easily take advantage of simple Windows features (batch file +
hotkeys, usually). I think I'm in the minority on this; it seems most
people prefer third-party tools such as you suggest.

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
https://OakRoadSystems.com/
Shikata ga nai...

"David E. Ross" <not_me@not_there.invalid> wrote

| > To me, all the hardware solutions appear problematical. Unplugging and
| > then plugging back in eventually creates wear on the plugs; it also
| > requires that the plugs be accessible and not behind the computer.
| > Turning the router or modem off affects all users; this too requires
| > accessibility (e.g., the devices are not in another room).

It works well for me, with a UPS on my desk. The ethernet
routes through the UPS. All this talk about worn out plugs
is not reflected in reality. Maybe every 3-4 years I replace
the 3' ethernet cord that I plug in and out. Mostly for
good measure. Not because I really need to. It's just that
I have extra 3' cords, so if the snap clip wears out I replace
it.

So it's easy, quick, no hardware to initialize, and no wear
on plugs. Though I've noticed that for some reason, ethernet
sockets in UPSs are becoming less common. If I didn't have
that I'd probably just tape an ethernet connector on the desk
and use that. Not a big deal. I prefer to know for sure that
the comnnection is broken.

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> writes:

> Boris Dorestand wrote:
>> Teddy-Bears <Bears@invalid.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 4/29/21 12:25 AM, this is what Sailfish wrote:
>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Rene Lamontagne graced us with
>>>> on 4/28/2021 7:46 PM:
>>>>> On 2021-04-28 9:11 p.m., Sailfish wrote:
>>>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Teddy-Bears graced us with on
>>>>>> 4/28/2021 8:30 AM:
>>>>>>> On 4/28/21 10:39 AM, this is what s|b wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 03:12:56 -0400, Teddy-Bears wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pull the Ethernet cable out.
>>>>>>>> My first thought as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kinda what Rene Lamontagne said earlier, a RJ45 switch you can
>>>>>>> just toggle on/off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ethernet A/B switch?
>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/MT-VIKI-Network-Splitter-Selector-MT-RJ45-2M/dp/B00DRG1SLO
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, that's exactly the one I use.
>>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>> Sometimes the fix is so simple it can't be seen. <$7.00 and bingo.
>> Is there something like for a camera and microphone?
>
> There are USB switch boxes, so it is possible to
> redirect USB using switches. You can, for example,
> share a USB printer with four PCs, and using
> buttons on the box, magically "plug in" the printer
> to the desired PC. Just as easily, you can route
> other USB2 devices that way too.
>
> And just as easily as you can re-route USB, you can
> connect the USB devices to an unused port, where they
> cannot harm anything or eavesdrop.

Thank you! Bought a USB switch. Let's keep hardware on the leash.

Sailfish <NIXCAPSsailfish@NIXCAPSunforgettable.com> writes:

> My bloviated meandering follows what Boris Dorestand graced us with on
> 4/29/2021 2:00 PM:
>> Teddy-Bears <Bears@invalid.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 4/29/21 12:25 AM, this is what Sailfish wrote:
>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Rene Lamontagne graced us with
>>>> on 4/28/2021 7:46 PM:
>>>>> On 2021-04-28 9:11 p.m., Sailfish wrote:
>>>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Teddy-Bears graced us with on
>>>>>> 4/28/2021 8:30 AM:
>>>>>>> On 4/28/21 10:39 AM, this is what s|b wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 03:12:56 -0400, Teddy-Bears wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pull the Ethernet cable out.
>>>>>>>> My first thought as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kinda what Rene Lamontagne said earlier, a RJ45 switch you can
>>>>>>> just toggle on/off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ethernet A/B switch?
>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/MT-VIKI-Network-Splitter-Selector-MT-RJ45-2M/dp/B00DRG1SLO
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, that's exactly the one I use.
>>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>> Sometimes the fix is so simple it can't be seen. <$7.00 and bingo.
>> Is there something like for a camera and microphone?
>
> For camera I use piece of tape over the lens.
>
> For microphone, I just plug/unplug a 3.5 audio cable in my microphone jack:
> https://www.amazon.com/Extension-Braided-Zerist-Tangle-Free-Headphones/dp/B07QF1VRPB
>
> As for a switch box, you might try this:
> https://www.amazon.com/KNACRO-Switching-Switch-Select-Output/dp/B0797N9VNX
>
> I found this as a possible software solution but I have not tested it:
> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/how-to-mute-the-microphone-with-a-keyboard/48e7fe46-4305-465c-b329-1261a7d8fe3e?LastReply=true#LastReply
>
> Good Luck!

Thank you! Bought a switch with buttons to turn on and off. If as I
turn it off I see the OS losing the device, then I think I should be
good over 99% of the time, which is satisfactory for the moment.

Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> writes:

> On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 14:47:22 -0700, Sailfish wrote:
>> For camera I use piece of tape over the lens.
>>
>
> I use a small Post-it note. No chance of sticky residue, as with
> tape.

I think the microphone is the most concerning one and covering the
camera doesn't cover the microphone.

"David E. Ross" <not_me@not_there.invalid> writes:

> On 4/29/2021 2:00 PM, Boris Dorestand wrote:
>> Teddy-Bears <Bears@invalid.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 4/29/21 12:25 AM, this is what Sailfish wrote:
>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Rene Lamontagne graced us with
>>>> on 4/28/2021 7:46 PM:
>>>>> On 2021-04-28 9:11 p.m., Sailfish wrote:
>>>>>> My bloviated meandering follows what Teddy-Bears graced us with on
>>>>>> 4/28/2021 8:30 AM:
>>>>>>> On 4/28/21 10:39 AM, this is what s|b wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 03:12:56 -0400, Teddy-Bears wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pull the Ethernet cable out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My first thought as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kinda what Rene Lamontagne said earlier, a RJ45 switch you can
>>>>>>> just toggle on/off.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ethernet A/B switch?
>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/MT-VIKI-Network-Splitter-Selector-MT-RJ45-2M/dp/B00DRG1SLO
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, that's exactly the one I use.
>>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>> Sometimes the fix is so simple it can't be seen. <$7.00 and bingo.
>>
>> Is there something like for a camera and microphone?
>>
> Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
> Logitech HD Webcam C510 model #V-U0016
> Cyber Acoustics microphone CVL-1124R
>
> For the Webcam, I use Nirsoft's Device Manager (DevManView.exe) from
> <http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/device_manager_view.html>. I created two
> executable shortcuts. To disable the Webcam, the shortcut uses
> DevManView.exe /disable "USB\VID_046D&PID_081D\F0713EC0"
> To enable it, the shortcut ueses
> DevManView.exe /enable "USB\VID_046D&PID_081D\F0713EC0"
> In both cases, the target of the shortcuts include the path to
> DevManView.exe. When disabled, my Webcam is placed in the cloth bag
> that came with it.
>
> For the microphone, I created an executable shortcut to Sound in Control
> Panel. When I execute the shortcut, I then select the Recording tab,
> right-click on the microphone icon, and select either Enable or Disable.
>
> Both Webcam shortcuts and the microphone shortcut are in a folder named
> "Audio and Video" in my Start menu. The Webcam and microphone remain
> permanently plugged into the back of my PC.

Thank you. That's pretty nice, but I think a hardware solution is
needed. Otherwise you end up forgetting. I bought a switch with
buttons and leds --- I can see they're on and off. About $10.