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* Printing from RISC OS 5stephen.hull
+* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Chris Newman
|`* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5stephen.hull
| `* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Chris Newman
|  +* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Ian Whitmore
|  |`- Re: Printing from RISC OS 5stephen.hull
|  +- Re: Printing from RISC OS 5stephen.hull
|  `* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Chris Newman
|   +* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Chris Hughes
|   |`* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Chris Newman
|   | +* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Chris Newman
|   | |`* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Chris Newman
|   | | +- Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Chris Hughes
|   | | `- Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Richard Ashbery
|   | `- Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Adrian Crafer
|   `* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5stephen.hull
|    +* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Chris Hughes
|    |+* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Paul Stewart
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|    |`* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5stephen.hull
|    | `* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Steve Fryatt
|    |  `* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Chris Newman
|    |   +- Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Chris Hughes
|    |   `* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Steve Fryatt
|    |    `* Printing from RISC OS 5Dave
|    |     `* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5charles
|    |      +- Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Alan Dawes
|    |      `* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Dave
|    |       +* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5charles
|    |       |`* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Chris Newman
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|    |        `* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Dave
|    |         `* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Alan Dawes
|    |          `- Re: Printing from RISC OS 5druck
|    `- Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Doug Webb
`* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Richard Darby (news)
 +* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Doug Webb
 |+- Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Theo
 |`* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Doug Webb
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 |     `* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5David Higton
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 `* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Steve Fryatt
  `* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Doug Webb
   `* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Doug Webb
    `* Re: Printing from RISC OS 5Harriet Bazley
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Printing from RISC OS 5

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 by: stephen....@btinternet.com - Sat, 1 Jan 2022 21:34 UTC

Has anyone any idea of where to get modern printer drivers from?
I have been trying to get RISC OS 5.28 (on the Rasberry 4) to print
direct via USB to a HP Envy 4500 printer.

I tried various drivers within the PrintDefs to no avail.

Stephen

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 by: Chris Newman - Sun, 2 Jan 2022 12:05 UTC

In article <7ae827a459.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
<stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Has anyone any idea of where to get modern printer drivers from?
> I have been trying to get RISC OS 5.28 (on the Rasberry 4) to print
> direct via USB to a HP Envy 4500 printer.

Is that ink jet or Laser?

I'm trying to remember how I did it.

Can the Pi "see" the printer? Use Paul Reuvers' !USBinfo to check.

If not, use Ian Hamilton's !PrtSet2USB to set/check the connection.

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Chris Newman

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 by: stephen....@btinternet.com - Sun, 2 Jan 2022 15:29 UTC

In message <59a477991acvjazz@waitrose.com>
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

>In article <7ae827a459.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
> <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Has anyone any idea of where to get modern printer drivers from?
>> I have been trying to get RISC OS 5.28 (on the Rasberry 4) to print
>> direct via USB to a HP Envy 4500 printer.
>
>Is that ink jet or Laser?
>
>I'm trying to remember how I did it.
>
>Can the Pi "see" the printer? Use Paul Reuvers' !USBinfo to check.
>
>If not, use Ian Hamilton's !PrtSet2USB to set/check the connection.
>

Hi, it is an inkjet all in one wireless and or USB.

I have tried the above programs and they do show the printer is
connected from the Raspberry and when I drop a file on the printer icon
it does send it as the printer window shows "Now printing" but nothing
is actually printed which is why I think I need a specific printer
driver.

I have tried various combinations from the HP !Printdef list but non
have worked so far.

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 by: Chris Newman - Sun, 2 Jan 2022 15:50 UTC

In article <55538aa459.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
<stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
> In message <59a477991acvjazz@waitrose.com>
> Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> >In article <7ae827a459.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
> > <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >> Has anyone any idea of where to get modern printer drivers from?
> >> I have been trying to get RISC OS 5.28 (on the Rasberry 4) to print
> >> direct via USB to a HP Envy 4500 printer.
> >
> >Is that ink jet or Laser?
> >
> >I'm trying to remember how I did it.
> >
> >Can the Pi "see" the printer? Use Paul Reuvers' !USBinfo to check.
> >
> >If not, use Ian Hamilton's !PrtSet2USB to set/check the connection.
> >

> Hi, it is an inkjet all in one wireless and or USB.

> I have tried the above programs and they do show the printer is
> connected from the Raspberry and when I drop a file on the printer icon
> it does send it as the printer window shows "Now printing" but nothing
> is actually printed which is why I think I need a specific printer
> driver.

> I have tried various combinations from the HP !Printdef list but non
> have worked so far.

Just sent you all my HP defs privately in case I have one you don't.

--
Chris Newman

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 by: Ian Whitmore - Sun, 2 Jan 2022 17:06 UTC

Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> In article <55538aa459.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
> <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > In message <59a477991acvjazz@waitrose.com>
> > Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
>
> > > In article <7ae827a459.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
> > > <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > > > Has anyone any idea of where to get modern printer drivers from? I
> > > > have been trying to get RISC OS 5.28 (on the Rasberry 4) to print
> > > > direct via USB to a HP Envy 4500 printer.
> > >
> > > Is that ink jet or Laser?
> > >
> > > I'm trying to remember how I did it.
> > >
> > > Can the Pi "see" the printer? Use Paul Reuvers' !USBinfo to check.
> > >
> > > If not, use Ian Hamilton's !PrtSet2USB to set/check the connection.
> > >
>
> > Hi, it is an inkjet all in one wireless and or USB.
>
> > I have tried the above programs and they do show the printer is
> > connected from the Raspberry and when I drop a file on the printer icon
> > it does send it as the printer window shows "Now printing" but nothing
> > is actually printed which is why I think I need a specific printer
> > driver.
>
> > I have tried various combinations from the HP !Printdef list but non
> > have worked so far.
>
> Just sent you all my HP defs privately in case I have one you don't.
>
I just checked the HP website and they quote the language used as PCL3 GUI.

Looking on RISC OS Open
https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/11/topics/9285 there is a statement
from 2017 that "Gutenprint has a PCL3GUI driver, so that should work. "
although later people have trouble using it as it is slow.
On the same page CJEmicros offer a possible driver at
http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/micros/individual/newprodpages/prodinfo.php?prodcode=4D-HP9X0ROD
There is a test file you can download to try before you buy.

Hope this helps,
Ian

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In message <mpro.r53e6b0927z6600u3.iwhitmore@iwhitmore.net>
Ian Whitmore <iwhitmore@iwhitmore.net> wrote:

>Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <55538aa459.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
>> <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> > In message <59a477991acvjazz@waitrose.com>
>> > Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > In article <7ae827a459.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
>> > > <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> > > > Has anyone any idea of where to get modern printer drivers from? I
>> > > > have been trying to get RISC OS 5.28 (on the Rasberry 4) to print
>> > > > direct via USB to a HP Envy 4500 printer.
>> > >
>> > > Is that ink jet or Laser?
>> > >
>> > > I'm trying to remember how I did it.
>> > >
>> > > Can the Pi "see" the printer? Use Paul Reuvers' !USBinfo to check.
>> > >
>> > > If not, use Ian Hamilton's !PrtSet2USB to set/check the connection.
>> > >
>>
>> > Hi, it is an inkjet all in one wireless and or USB.
>>
>> > I have tried the above programs and they do show the printer is
>> > connected from the Raspberry and when I drop a file on the printer icon
>> > it does send it as the printer window shows "Now printing" but nothing
>> > is actually printed which is why I think I need a specific printer
>> > driver.
>>
>> > I have tried various combinations from the HP !Printdef list but non
>> > have worked so far.
>>
>> Just sent you all my HP defs privately in case I have one you don't.
>>
>I just checked the HP website and they quote the language used as PCL3 GUI.
>
>Looking on RISC OS Open
>https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/11/topics/9285 there is a statement
>from 2017 that "Gutenprint has a PCL3GUI driver, so that should work. "
>although later people have trouble using it as it is slow.
>On the same page CJEmicros offer a possible driver at
>http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/micros/individual/newprodpages/prodinfo.php?prodcode=4D-HP9X0ROD
>There is a test file you can download to try before you buy.
>
>Hope this helps,
>Ian

Yes thanks but the test file does not work, strange that nothing seems
to fire up the printer, I've not given up yet though.

Stephen

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In message <59a48c4502cvjazz@waitrose.com>
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

>In article <55538aa459.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
> <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> In message <59a477991acvjazz@waitrose.com>
>> Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
>
>> >In article <7ae827a459.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
>> > <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> >> Has anyone any idea of where to get modern printer drivers from?
>> >> I have been trying to get RISC OS 5.28 (on the Rasberry 4) to print
>> >> direct via USB to a HP Envy 4500 printer.
>> >
>> >Is that ink jet or Laser?
>> >
>> >I'm trying to remember how I did it.
>> >
>> >Can the Pi "see" the printer? Use Paul Reuvers' !USBinfo to check.
>> >
>> >If not, use Ian Hamilton's !PrtSet2USB to set/check the connection.
>> >
>
>> Hi, it is an inkjet all in one wireless and or USB.
>
>> I have tried the above programs and they do show the printer is
>> connected from the Raspberry and when I drop a file on the printer icon
>> it does send it as the printer window shows "Now printing" but nothing
>> is actually printed which is why I think I need a specific printer
>> driver.
>
>> I have tried various combinations from the HP !Printdef list but non
>> have worked so far.
>
>Just sent you all my HP defs privately in case I have one you don't.
>

Thanks Chris,
I have tried most of them to no avail. although I still have a few left
to try.

Stephen
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 by: Chris Newman - Mon, 3 Jan 2022 12:56 UTC

On 02 Jan, cvjazz@waitrose.com wrote:
> In article <55538aa459.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
> <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > In message <59a477991acvjazz@waitrose.com>
> > Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> > >In article <7ae827a459.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
> > > <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > >> Has anyone any idea of where to get modern printer drivers from?
> > >> I have been trying to get RISC OS 5.28 (on the Rasberry 4) to print
> > >> direct via USB to a HP Envy 4500 printer.
> > >
> > >Is that ink jet or Laser?
> > >
> > >I'm trying to remember how I did it.
> > >
> > >Can the Pi "see" the printer? Use Paul Reuvers' !USBinfo to check.
> > >
> > >If not, use Ian Hamilton's !PrtSet2USB to set/check the connection.
> > >

> > Hi, it is an inkjet all in one wireless and or USB.

> > I have tried the above programs and they do show the printer is
> > connected from the Raspberry and when I drop a file on the printer icon
> > it does send it as the printer window shows "Now printing" but nothing
> > is actually printed which is why I think I need a specific printer
> > driver.

> > I have tried various combinations from the HP !Printdef list but non
> > have worked so far.

> Just sent you all my HP defs privately in case I have one you don't.

Having said that, I haven't got my HP Deskjet 5610 working from RISC OS.
I used to use Uniprint through the Windows machine until it ceased to
function several Windows updates ago. I now use a laser printer from R5
on the Pi.

--
Chris Newman

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 by: Chris Hughes - Mon, 3 Jan 2022 13:37 UTC

In message <59a5002dcccvjazz@waitrose.com>
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> On 02 Jan, cvjazz@waitrose.com wrote:
>> In article <55538aa459.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
>> <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>> In message <59a477991acvjazz@waitrose.com>
>>> Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

>>>>In article <7ae827a459.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
>>>> <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>>> Has anyone any idea of where to get modern printer drivers from?
>>>>> I have been trying to get RISC OS 5.28 (on the Rasberry 4) to print
>>>>> direct via USB to a HP Envy 4500 printer.
>>>>
>>>>Is that ink jet or Laser?
>>>>
>>>>I'm trying to remember how I did it.
>>>>
>>>>Can the Pi "see" the printer? Use Paul Reuvers' !USBinfo to check.
>>>>
>>>>If not, use Ian Hamilton's !PrtSet2USB to set/check the connection.
>>>>

>>> Hi, it is an inkjet all in one wireless and or USB.

>>> I have tried the above programs and they do show the printer is
>>> connected from the Raspberry and when I drop a file on the printer icon
>>> it does send it as the printer window shows "Now printing" but nothing
>>> is actually printed which is why I think I need a specific printer
>>> driver.

>>> I have tried various combinations from the HP !Printdef list but non
>>> have worked so far.

>> Just sent you all my HP defs privately in case I have one you don't.

> Having said that, I haven't got my HP Deskjet 5610 working from RISC OS.
> I used to use Uniprint through the Windows machine until it ceased to
> function several Windows updates ago. I now use a laser printer from R5
> on the Pi.

Re Uniprint, I still have mine working most days, from RO5 to Win10
usually without issues.

Are you on the current versions of Uniprint 4.10a, and the corresponding
module on the Win10 side?

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Chris Hughes

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 by: stephen....@btinternet.com - Mon, 3 Jan 2022 13:52 UTC

In message <59a5002dcccvjazz@waitrose.com>
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

>On 02 Jan, cvjazz@waitrose.com wrote:
>> In article <55538aa459.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
>> <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> > In message <59a477991acvjazz@waitrose.com>
>> > Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
>
>> > >In article <7ae827a459.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
>> > > <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> > >> Has anyone any idea of where to get modern printer drivers from?
>> > >> I have been trying to get RISC OS 5.28 (on the Rasberry 4) to print
>> > >> direct via USB to a HP Envy 4500 printer.
>> > >
>> > >Is that ink jet or Laser?
>> > >
>> > >I'm trying to remember how I did it.
>> > >
>> > >Can the Pi "see" the printer? Use Paul Reuvers' !USBinfo to check.
>> > >
>> > >If not, use Ian Hamilton's !PrtSet2USB to set/check the connection.
>> > >
>
>> > Hi, it is an inkjet all in one wireless and or USB.
>
>> > I have tried the above programs and they do show the printer is
>> > connected from the Raspberry and when I drop a file on the printer icon
>> > it does send it as the printer window shows "Now printing" but nothing
>> > is actually printed which is why I think I need a specific printer
>> > driver.
>
>> > I have tried various combinations from the HP !Printdef list but non
>> > have worked so far.
>
>> Just sent you all my HP defs privately in case I have one you don't.
>
>Having said that, I haven't got my HP Deskjet 5610 working from RISC OS.
>I used to use Uniprint through the Windows machine until it ceased to
>function several Windows updates ago. I now use a laser printer from R5
>on the Pi.
>

I thought that at least one of the HP drivers might have worked even
partially, seems to be the drivers are too old and printers too new.

I can still use uniprint on ViruallAcorn but would love to get printing
from the Raspberry, sort of hoped to use the Raspberry Pi instead but it
doesn't look like that is going to happen sadly.

Anyway thanks for all your help, I think the only way is to purchase an
all in one printer that is known to work with RISC OS 5 and even if I
tried with Wi-Fi I would still end up with the same connection problem.

Regards

Stephen

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 by: Chris Hughes - Mon, 3 Jan 2022 14:08 UTC

In message <603d05a559.Steve@btopenworld.com>
stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

> In message <59a5002dcccvjazz@waitrose.com>
> Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

>>On 02 Jan, cvjazz@waitrose.com wrote:
>>> In article <55538aa459.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
>>> <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>> In message <59a477991acvjazz@waitrose.com>
>>>> Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>In article <7ae827a459.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
>>>>> <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Has anyone any idea of where to get modern printer drivers from?
>>>>>> I have been trying to get RISC OS 5.28 (on the Rasberry 4) to print
>>>>>> direct via USB to a HP Envy 4500 printer.
>>>>>
>>>>>Is that ink jet or Laser?
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm trying to remember how I did it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Can the Pi "see" the printer? Use Paul Reuvers' !USBinfo to check.
>>>>>
>>>>>If not, use Ian Hamilton's !PrtSet2USB to set/check the connection.
>>>>>
>>
>>>> Hi, it is an inkjet all in one wireless and or USB.
>>
>>>> I have tried the above programs and they do show the printer is
>>>> connected from the Raspberry and when I drop a file on the printer icon
>>>> it does send it as the printer window shows "Now printing" but nothing
>>>> is actually printed which is why I think I need a specific printer
>>>> driver.
>>
>>>> I have tried various combinations from the HP !Printdef list but non
>>>> have worked so far.
>>
>>> Just sent you all my HP defs privately in case I have one you don't.
>>
>>Having said that, I haven't got my HP Deskjet 5610 working from RISC OS.
>>I used to use Uniprint through the Windows machine until it ceased to
>>function several Windows updates ago. I now use a laser printer from R5
>>on the Pi.
>>

> I thought that at least one of the HP drivers might have worked even
> partially, seems to be the drivers are too old and printers too new.

You could ask CJE Micros if they might get their driver to work with that
printer.

> I can still use uniprint on ViruallAcorn but would love to get printing
> from the Raspberry, sort of hoped to use the Raspberry Pi instead but it
> doesn't look like that is going to happen sadly.

UniPrint will work happily from a Raspberry Pi with RISC OS 5 on it.

> Anyway thanks for all your help, I think the only way is to purchase an
> all in one printer that is known to work with RISC OS 5 and even if I
> tried with Wi-Fi I would still end up with the same connection problem.

If wanting help with a printer purchase I suggest either R-Comp or CJE
Micro's should be able to help.

Problem with all-in-one inkjet printers for RISC OS is you will probably
only get the printing side working directly.

There are a few Inkjets that support Postscript, but tend to be expensive.

I lot of Laser Printers support either PCL 5/6 or Postscript so more
easily supported from RISCOS but still have the issue of scanning/copying,
not being available.

> Regards

> Stephen

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In article <2be703a559.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes
<news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> Re Uniprint, I still have mine working most days, from RO5 to Win10
> usually without issues.

> Are you on the current versions of Uniprint 4.10a, and the
> corresponding module on the Win10 side?

Ah! I have UniControl 4.10 (24 Apr 2014) sans the "a" suffix.
Whence cometh the new version?

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 by: Chris Newman - Mon, 3 Jan 2022 15:57 UTC

In article <59a5105d4bcvjazz@waitrose.com>,
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> In article <2be703a559.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes
> <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> > Re Uniprint, I still have mine working most days, from RO5 to Win10
> > usually without issues.

> > Are you on the current versions of Uniprint 4.10a, and the
> > corresponding module on the Win10 side?

> Ah! I have UniControl 4.10 (24 Apr 2014) sans the "a" suffix.
> Whence cometh the new version?

Just found it on 't !Store for £79. As I already have a copy I presume
here is an update price or something. Perhaps I never registered my
original copy. I shall investigate as soon as time permits.

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Chris Newman

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 by: Chris Newman - Mon, 3 Jan 2022 16:01 UTC

In article <59a510b43ccvjazz@waitrose.com>,
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> In article <59a5105d4bcvjazz@waitrose.com>,
> Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> > In article <2be703a559.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes
> > <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> > > Re Uniprint, I still have mine working most days, from RO5 to Win10
> > > usually without issues.

> > > Are you on the current versions of Uniprint 4.10a, and the
> > > corresponding module on the Win10 side?

> > Ah! I have UniControl 4.10 (24 Apr 2014) sans the "a" suffix.
> > Whence cometh the new version?

> Just found it on 't !Store for £79. As I already have a copy I presume
> here is an update price or something. Perhaps I never registered my
> original copy. I shall investigate as soon as time permits.

Time having permitted, I see it's in my software and already have it in
my stored downloads so....

a) Have I applied the update?
b) Does the Info box on the icon bar reflect that?

Hmmm

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 by: Adrian Crafer - Mon, 3 Jan 2022 16:21 UTC

In message <59a5105d4bcvjazz@waitrose.com>
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> In article <2be703a559.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes
> <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

>> Re Uniprint, I still have mine working most days, from RO5 to Win10
>> usually without issues.

>> Are you on the current versions of Uniprint 4.10a, and the
>> corresponding module on the Win10 side?

> Ah! I have UniControl 4.10 (24 Apr 2014) sans the "a" suffix.
> Whence cometh the new version?

Plingstore has it, but the upgrade process requires uninstalling the
existing version. I have a feeling that I upgraded, but it still showed as
4.10 sans "a". I may be wrong on that so I will check again.

If the problem you have is that Uniprint complains that the PC is not
connected or Uniserver is not running, but is, then I have found that the
cure is to run UniControl. Select Uniprint. It will then list the printers
on you PC. It will show the default printer is selected. If you then
reselect the default printer and click on 'Use' it should then all work
ok.

Adrian

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In message <d8b406a559.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> Problem with all-in-one inkjet printers for RISC OS is you will probably
> only get the printing side working directly.

In the past I have found that if the all in one device has a slot for a
memory card, the card itself was accessible from RISC OS, assuming printer
is connected via USB. You can then just scan to the memory card and then
pickup from RISC OS.

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 by: Chris Hughes - Mon, 3 Jan 2022 16:59 UTC

In message <59a5110d84cvjazz@waitrose.com>
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> In article <59a510b43ccvjazz@waitrose.com>,
> Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
>> In article <59a5105d4bcvjazz@waitrose.com>,
>> Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
>>> In article <2be703a559.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes
>>> <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

>>>> Re Uniprint, I still have mine working most days, from RO5 to Win10
>>>> usually without issues.

>>>> Are you on the current versions of Uniprint 4.10a, and the
>>>> corresponding module on the Win10 side?

>>> Ah! I have UniControl 4.10 (24 Apr 2014) sans the "a" suffix.
>>> Whence cometh the new version?

>> Just found it on 't !Store for £79. As I already have a copy I presume
>> here is an update price or something. Perhaps I never registered my
>> original copy. I shall investigate as soon as time permits.

> Time having permitted, I see it's in my software and already have it in
> my stored downloads so....

> a) Have I applied the update?
> b) Does the Info box on the icon bar reflect that?

v4.10 is the main new version, if I remember correctly 4.10a fixed a bug
in the installer to allow it to work on newer version of RISC OS 5.

So doubt that is your issue, unless you forgot to update the UniPrint/exe
for the windows side.

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 by: Richard Darby (news) - Mon, 3 Jan 2022 20:08 UTC

In article <7ae827a459.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
<stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Has anyone any idea of where to get modern printer drivers from?
> I have been trying to get RISC OS 5.28 (on the Rasberry 4) to print
> direct via USB to a HP Envy 4500 printer.

> I tried various drivers within the PrintDefs to no avail.

> Stephen

I downloaded the manual for this printer to see what form of emulation it
understood. According to the manual on p89 it supports PCL3 GUI. I'm not
sure what GUI means in this context as it usually means 'Graphical user
interface' however PCL is HP's 'Printer Control Language' so it should
respond to one of the 16 desk Jet definitions available.

About 15 years ago I needed a Printer definition for an HP DeskJet 920c
and found that Jonathan Briggs had produced a number of Definition files
for the 900 series printers and some others in around 2002. He was
initially charging a nominal amount for these but I think he left the RISC
OS scene around 2008 and made these printer definitions freely available.

Unfortunately I have not been able to find them on the web, so if anyone
knows where they can be obtained perhaps they could let us know.

As something you might try, I have a duplex PCL printer driver available
on my website www.rjdarby.co.uk/riscos
You might try installing this to see if it will work with your printer.
Although it has duplex capability it will also print on one side of the
paper and you don't need to use the duplex settings.

Richard Darby.

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 by: Doug Webb - Mon, 3 Jan 2022 21:53 UTC

In message <59a527ac4dnews@rjdarby.co.uk>
"Richard Darby (news)" <news@rjdarby.co.uk> wrote:

> I downloaded the manual for this printer to see what form of emulation it
> understood. According to the manual on p89 it supports PCL3 GUI. I'm not
> sure what GUI means in this context as it usually means 'Graphical user
> interface' however PCL is HP's 'Printer Control Language' so it should
> respond to one of the 16 desk Jet definitions available.

Think this will be Windows only?

> About 15 years ago I needed a Printer definition for an HP DeskJet 920c
> and found that Jonathan Briggs had produced a number of Definition files
> for the 900 series printers and some others in around 2002. He was
> initially charging a nominal amount for these but I think he left the RISC
> OS scene around 2008 and made these printer definitions freely available.

> Unfortunately I have not been able to find them on the web, so if anyone
> knows where they can be obtained perhaps they could let us know.

Jonathan put all his printer drivers in to the "public domain" in around
2008.

I happen to have archives of them, which includes some Epson drivers as
well, and totals some 30+ plus drivers but I'm not sure if putting them
in to the "Public Domain" includes distributing them as all it says in the
archive is this:

"All my printer drivers are released into the public domain
'as is'. I can offer no further support for these drivers.
Jonathan Briggs
March 2008"

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 by: Theo - Tue, 4 Jan 2022 09:41 UTC

Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Jonathan put all his printer drivers in to the "public domain" in around
> 2008.
>
> I happen to have archives of them, which includes some Epson drivers as
> well, and totals some 30+ plus drivers but I'm not sure if putting them
> in to the "Public Domain" includes distributing them as all it says in the
> archive is this:
>
> "All my printer drivers are released into the public domain
> 'as is'. I can offer no further support for these drivers.
> Jonathan Briggs
> March 2008"

Depends on his jurisdiction. In the US 'public domain' in law means
essentially a-free-for-all, do-what-you-like. The UK doesn't have that
definition in law, so it doesn't mean anything legally. But if Jonathan is
the person who holds the copyrights and it's clear he has relinquished any
claim on them (as the above text suggests), it would seem unlikely he's
going to sue anyone who distributes them.

In other words, his above statement is probably not sufficient for
million-dollar corporate lawyers but the intent seems clear enough if the
likely penalty for misinterpreting his statement is not being sued but being
told 'please don't do that again'.

So I would have no problem with distributing them, and indeed it sounds like
a good idea so they don't become lost.

Theo

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 by: Doug Webb - Tue, 4 Jan 2022 10:50 UTC

In message <603d05a559.Steve@btopenworld.com>
stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:

> In message <59a5002dcccvjazz@waitrose.com>

> I thought that at least one of the HP drivers might have worked even
> partially, seems to be the drivers are too old and printers too new.

> I can still use uniprint on ViruallAcorn but would love to get printing
> from the Raspberry, sort of hoped to use the Raspberry Pi instead but it
> doesn't look like that is going to happen sadly.

One way is to enable HP E Print on it and then print out to PDF using
Steve Fryatt's excellent PrintPDF or RComp's PDFMaker and then email that
PDF to the HP printers ePrint email address.

Bit convoluted but it works as I have used it a number of times.

Would be nice if someone could do an application a bit like Ian Hamilton's
PrintSpool that automatically sent it to the email address using your
preferred email client on RISC OS.

Also see my other post about Jonathan Brigg's drivers.

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 by: Doug Webb - Tue, 4 Jan 2022 16:00 UTC

In message <4b5231a559.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:

> I happen to have archives of them, which includes some Epson drivers as
> well, and totals some 30+ plus drivers but I'm not sure if putting them
> in to the "Public Domain" includes distributing them as all it says in the
> archive is this:

OK so tried about 10 or so of the HP drivers against a HP Deskjet 3637,
which is PCL3 GUI, and get nothing.

Jonathan's drivers were really good with enhanced printer icon graphics
and also reset/head alignment etc facilities.

It is a pity that we have no modern updates.

Some of the higher priced HP inkjets all in ones going back 3 or 4 years
ago, like the HP 5520/B110, had the ability to use PCL6/Postscript like
the Laserjets but they seem to have dropped that from their range and even
some laserjets they sell have dropped it.

I guess it comes back to costs.

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In article <59a5110d84cvjazz@waitrose.com>, Chris Newman
<cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> In article <59a510b43ccvjazz@waitrose.com>, Chris Newman
> <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> > In article <59a5105d4bcvjazz@waitrose.com>, Chris Newman
> > <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> > > In article <2be703a559.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>, Chris Hughes
> > > <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> > > > Re Uniprint, I still have mine working most days, from RO5 to
> > > > Win10 usually without issues.

> > > > Are you on the current versions of Uniprint 4.10a, and the
> > > > corresponding module on the Win10 side?

> > > Ah! I have UniControl 4.10 (24 Apr 2014) sans the "a" suffix.
> > > Whence cometh the new version?

> > Just found it on 't !Store for £79. As I already have a copy I
> > presume here is an update price or something. Perhaps I never
> > registered my original copy. I shall investigate as soon as time
> > permits.

> Time having permitted, I see it's in my software and already have
> it in my stored downloads so....

> a) Have I applied the update? b) Does the Info box on the icon bar
> reflect that?

I'm wondering about that - I have just upgraded from 4.10 to 4.10a but
there doesn't seem to be a way of checking that the upgrade has been
done.

The UniPrint/exe (server software) on Windows is the same as on 4.10
so it makes sense that when it's window is opened it reports 4.10.

Richard

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From: stephen....@btinternet.com
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Subject: Re: Printing from RISC OS 5
Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2022 13:32:58 GMT
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 by: stephen....@btinternet.com - Sat, 8 Jan 2022 13:32 UTC

In message <d8b406a559.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

>In message <603d05a559.Steve@btopenworld.com>
> stephen.hull@btinternet.com wrote:
>
>> In message <59a5002dcccvjazz@waitrose.com>
>> Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
>
>>>On 02 Jan, cvjazz@waitrose.com wrote:
>>>> In article <55538aa459.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
>>>> <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>>> In message <59a477991acvjazz@waitrose.com>
>>>>> Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>In article <7ae827a459.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
>>>>>> <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Has anyone any idea of where to get modern printer drivers from?
>>>>>>> I have been trying to get RISC OS 5.28 (on the Rasberry 4) to print
>>>>>>> direct via USB to a HP Envy 4500 printer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is that ink jet or Laser?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm trying to remember how I did it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Can the Pi "see" the printer? Use Paul Reuvers' !USBinfo to check.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If not, use Ian Hamilton's !PrtSet2USB to set/check the connection.
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> Hi, it is an inkjet all in one wireless and or USB.
>>>
>>>>> I have tried the above programs and they do show the printer is
>>>>> connected from the Raspberry and when I drop a file on the printer icon
>>>>> it does send it as the printer window shows "Now printing" but nothing
>>>>> is actually printed which is why I think I need a specific printer
>>>>> driver.
>>>
>>>>> I have tried various combinations from the HP !Printdef list but non
>>>>> have worked so far.
>>>
>>>> Just sent you all my HP defs privately in case I have one you don't.
>>>
>>>Having said that, I haven't got my HP Deskjet 5610 working from RISC OS.
>>>I used to use Uniprint through the Windows machine until it ceased to
>>>function several Windows updates ago. I now use a laser printer from R5
>>>on the Pi.
>>>
>
>> I thought that at least one of the HP drivers might have worked even
>> partially, seems to be the drivers are too old and printers too new.
>
>You could ask CJE Micros if they might get their driver to work with that
>printer.
>
>> I can still use uniprint on ViruallAcorn but would love to get printing
>> from the Raspberry, sort of hoped to use the Raspberry Pi instead but it
>> doesn't look like that is going to happen sadly.
>
>UniPrint will work happily from a Raspberry Pi with RISC OS 5 on it.
>
>> Anyway thanks for all your help, I think the only way is to purchase an
>> all in one printer that is known to work with RISC OS 5 and even if I
>> tried with Wi-Fi I would still end up with the same connection problem.
>
>If wanting help with a printer purchase I suggest either R-Comp or CJE
>Micro's should be able to help.
>
>Problem with all-in-one inkjet printers for RISC OS is you will probably
>only get the printing side working directly.
>
>There are a few Inkjets that support Postscript, but tend to be expensive.
>
>I lot of Laser Printers support either PCL 5/6 or Postscript so more
>easily supported from RISCOS but still have the issue of scanning/copying,
>not being available.
>
>> Regards
>
>> Stephen
>
>
>
>

I think Andrew from Rcomp is back from his Christmas holidays on Monday
so I'll ask him if he is aware of a solution for me on my setup.
I was hoping to use the Raspberry Pi to print from but looks like I'll
have to stick with VirtualAcorn on the lapop for main printing, I've no
idea how to get Uniprint to work from the Pi perhaps Andrew can help
with that but I didn't purchase the Pi from him so he might be reluctant
to help.

Re: Printing from RISC OS 5

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Subject: Re: Printing from RISC OS 5
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 by: stephen....@btinternet.com - Sat, 8 Jan 2022 13:42 UTC

In message <59a527ac4dnews@rjdarby.co.uk>
"Richard Darby (news)" <news@rjdarby.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <7ae827a459.Steve@btopenworld.com>,
> <stephen.hull@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Has anyone any idea of where to get modern printer drivers from?
>> I have been trying to get RISC OS 5.28 (on the Rasberry 4) to print
>> direct via USB to a HP Envy 4500 printer.
>
>> I tried various drivers within the PrintDefs to no avail.
>
>> Stephen
>
>I downloaded the manual for this printer to see what form of emulation it
>understood. According to the manual on p89 it supports PCL3 GUI. I'm not
>sure what GUI means in this context as it usually means 'Graphical user
>interface' however PCL is HP's 'Printer Control Language' so it should
>respond to one of the 16 desk Jet definitions available.
>
>About 15 years ago I needed a Printer definition for an HP DeskJet 920c
>and found that Jonathan Briggs had produced a number of Definition files
>for the 900 series printers and some others in around 2002. He was
>initially charging a nominal amount for these but I think he left the RISC
>OS scene around 2008 and made these printer definitions freely available.
>
>Unfortunately I have not been able to find them on the web, so if anyone
>knows where they can be obtained perhaps they could let us know.
>
>As something you might try, I have a duplex PCL printer driver available
>on my website www.rjdarby.co.uk/riscos
>You might try installing this to see if it will work with your printer.
>Although it has duplex capability it will also print on one side of the
>paper and you don't need to use the duplex settings.
>
>Richard Darby.
>

Thank for this info, I'll have a go at printing with these PDF's.

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