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SubjectAuthor
* Wrong group.Miner
`* Re: Wrong group.Julien ÉLIE
 `* Re: Wrong group.Miner
  +* Re: Wrong group.John Levine
  |+- Re: Wrong group.Nigel Reed
  |`- Re: Wrong group.Miner
  `* Re: Wrong group.Miner
   `* Re: Wrong group.Matija Nalis
    `* Re: Wrong group.Miner
     `* Re: Wrong group.Miner
      `* Re: Wrong group.Julien ÉLIE
       `* Re: Wrong group.Miner
        `- Re: Wrong group.Julien ÉLIE

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Wrong group.

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From: inva...@invalid.invalid (Miner)
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Subject: Wrong group.
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 14:10:24 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Miner - Mon, 27 Jun 2022 14:10 UTC

Incoming messages (from feed) appear in wrong group. Why this may
happen?

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Miner

Re: Wrong group.

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From: iul...@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid (Julien ÉLIE)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: Wrong group.
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 19:49:15 +0200
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 by: Julien ÉLIE - Mon, 27 Jun 2022 17:49 UTC

Hi Miner,

> Incoming messages (from feed) appear in wrong group. Why this may
> happen?

I don't know... Without more context, examples, and how you see they
appear in the "wrong group", it will be difficult to help.

--
Julien ÉLIE

« England, that French colony that went wrong. » (Georges Clémenceau)

Re: Wrong group.

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From: inva...@invalid.invalid (Miner)
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Subject: Re: Wrong group.
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 19:51:41 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Miner - Mon, 27 Jun 2022 19:51 UTC

Julien ??LIE wrote:

> Hi Miner,
>
> > Incoming messages (from feed) appear in wrong group. Why this may
> > happen?
>
> I don't know... Without more context, examples, and how you
> see they appear in the "wrong group", it will be difficult to
> help.

Lets say there is the group "talk" and "events". Sometimes
messages for "talk" may suddenly appear in group "events" for
unknown reason.

This problem started since I "deleted the problematic group and
recreate it again". Do you remember such thread
(<t8n5uk$838$1@txtcon.i2p>)? I meant "talk" when I said
problematic group.

"talk" is high traffic group, but it was strange to observe there
only several messages per day.

--
Miner

Re: Wrong group.

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From: joh...@taugh.com (John Levine)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: Wrong group.
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 20:27:41 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: John Levine - Mon, 27 Jun 2022 20:27 UTC

According to Miner <invalid@invalid.invalid>:
>Lets say there is the group "talk" and "events". Sometimes
>messages for "talk" may suddenly appear in group "events" for
>unknown reason.

Yup, we get that.

>This problem started since I "deleted the problematic group and
>recreate it again". Do you remember such thread
>(<t8n5uk$838$1@txtcon.i2p>)? I meant "talk" when I said
>problematic group.

I can say with great confidence that something is broken.

Since you haven't offered any clues like what version of what software
you're using or what operating system it's running on, or how the
software is configured, how are we supposed to guess?

--
Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

Re: Wrong group.

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 by: Nigel Reed - Mon, 27 Jun 2022 23:34 UTC

On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 20:27:41 -0000 (UTC)
John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:

> Since you haven't offered any clues like what version of what software
> you're using or what operating system it's running on, or how the
> software is configured, how are we supposed to guess?

You mean you didn't bring your mind reading cap with you? :)

--
End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX
telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23

Re: Wrong group.

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From: inva...@invalid.invalid (Miner)
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Subject: Re: Wrong group.
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2022 04:54:56 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Miner - Tue, 28 Jun 2022 04:54 UTC

John Levine wrote:

> According to Miner <invalid@invalid.invalid>:
> >Lets say there is the group "talk" and "events". Sometimes
> >messages for "talk" may suddenly appear in group "events" for
> >unknown reason.
>
> Yup, we get that.
>
> >This problem started since I "deleted the problematic group and
> >recreate it again". Do you remember such thread
> >(<t8n5uk$838$1@txtcon.i2p>)? I meant "talk" when I said
> >problematic group.
>
> I can say with great confidence that something is broken.
>
> Since you haven't offered any clues like what version of what software
> you're using or what operating system it's running on, or how the
> software is configured, how are we supposed to guess?

inn 2.6.4 on Gnu/Linux.

--
Miner

Re: Wrong group.

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From: inva...@invalid.invalid (Miner)
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Subject: Re: Wrong group.
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 by: Miner - Tue, 28 Jun 2022 12:21 UTC

Miner wrote:

> Julien ??LIE wrote:
>
> > Hi Miner,
> >
> > > Incoming messages (from feed) appear in wrong group. Why this may
> > > happen?
> >
> > I don't know... Without more context, examples, and how you
> > see they appear in the "wrong group", it will be difficult to
> > help.
>
> Lets say there is the group "talk" and "events". Sometimes
> messages for "talk" may suddenly appear in group "events" for
> unknown reason.
>
> This problem started since I "deleted the problematic group and
> recreate it again". Do you remember such thread
> (<t8n5uk$838$1@txtcon.i2p>)? I meant "talk" when I said
> problematic group.
>
> "talk" is high traffic group, but it was strange to observe there
> only several messages per day.

It happened again.
innd: buffindexed: block(1, 255) not occupied (index)
innd: buffindexed: block(1, 255) not occupied (index)

--
Miner

Re: Wrong group.

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From: mnalis-n...@voyager.hr (Matija Nalis)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: Wrong group.
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 by: Matija Nalis - Tue, 28 Jun 2022 14:04 UTC

On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 12:21:16 -0000 (UTC), Miner <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> It happened again.
> innd: buffindexed: block(1, 255) not occupied (index)
> innd: buffindexed: block(1, 255) not occupied (index)

It appears your buffindexed is corrupted. You should recreate it from scratch.

According to buffindexed.conf(5): "You MUST entirely recreate overview if you remove or relpace buffers".
Did you perhaps do that?

--
Opinions above are GNU-copylefted.

Re: Wrong group.

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 by: Miner - Tue, 28 Jun 2022 15:12 UTC

Matija Nalis wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 12:21:16 -0000 (UTC), Miner <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > It happened again.
> > innd: buffindexed: block(1, 255) not occupied (index)
> > innd: buffindexed: block(1, 255) not occupied (index)
>
> It appears your buffindexed is corrupted. You should recreate
> it from scratch.
>
> According to buffindexed.conf(5): "You MUST entirely recreate
> overview if you remove or relpace buffers".
> Did you perhaps do that?
Sure.

--
Miner

Re: Wrong group.

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 by: Miner - Tue, 28 Jun 2022 17:37 UTC

Miner wrote:

> Matija Nalis wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 12:21:16 -0000 (UTC), Miner <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > > It happened again.
> > > innd: buffindexed: block(1, 255) not occupied (index)
> > > innd: buffindexed: block(1, 255) not occupied (index)
> >
> > It appears your buffindexed is corrupted. You should recreate
> > it from scratch.
> >
> > According to buffindexed.conf(5): "You MUST entirely recreate
> > overview if you remove or relpace buffers".
> > Did you perhaps do that?
> Sure.

Today I had switched on ovdb overview method.

--
Miner

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From: iul...@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid (Julien ÉLIE)
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Subject: Re: Wrong group.
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 by: Julien ÉLIE - Sun, 3 Jul 2022 21:34 UTC

Hi Miner,

>>> It happened again.
>>> innd: buffindexed: block(1, 255) not occupied (index)
>>> innd: buffindexed: block(1, 255) not occupied (index)
>>
>> It appears your buffindexed is corrupted. You should recreate
>> it from scratch.
>
> Today I had switched on ovdb overview method.

I hope ovdb runs fine and you no longer encounter issues with your
overview. Unfortunately, buffindexed appears not to be reliable enough
(it suffers from some yet uncaught bugs).

--
Julien ÉLIE

« La médecine est un métier dangereux. Ceux qui ne meurent pas peuvent
vous faire un procès. » (Coluche)

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 by: Miner - Mon, 4 Jul 2022 07:01 UTC

Julien ??LIE wrote:

> Hi Miner,
>
> > > > It happened again.
> > > > innd: buffindexed: block(1, 255) not occupied (index)
> > > > innd: buffindexed: block(1, 255) not occupied (index)
> > >
> > > It appears your buffindexed is corrupted. You should recreate
> > > it from scratch.
> >
> > Today I had switched on ovdb overview method.
>
> I hope ovdb runs fine and you no longer encounter issues with
> your overview. Unfortunately, buffindexed appears not to be
> reliable enough (it suffers from some yet uncaught bugs).

With ovdb no errors found. As a bonus ovdb offers usage
statistics.

--
Miner

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 by: Julien ÉLIE - Sun, 25 Sep 2022 21:29 UTC

Hi Miner,

>>>>> It happened again.
>>>>> innd: buffindexed: block(1, 255) not occupied (index)
>>>>> innd: buffindexed: block(1, 255) not occupied (index)
>>>>
>>>> It appears your buffindexed is corrupted. You should recreate
>>>> it from scratch.
>>>
>>> Today I had switched on ovdb overview method.
>>
>> I hope ovdb runs fine and you no longer encounter issues with
>> your overview. Unfortunately, buffindexed appears not to be
>> reliable enough (it suffers from some yet uncaught bugs).
>
> With ovdb no errors found. As a bonus ovdb offers usage
> statistics.

I hope ovdb still gives you satisfaction.

FYI, I switched my overview to buffindexed 2 months ago, in the hope to
see that error but it hasn't happened yet on my server running Debian
stable. It will be difficult to fix if I cannot reproduce it :-/

It may be a platform-dependent bug or a peculiar configuration or
specific articles or... Anyway, I'll keep this overview storage method
a bit more, just in case.

--
Julien ÉLIE

« Et cette même nuit, c'est-à-dire trois semaines plus tard… » (Astérix)

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