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 by: Commander Kinsey - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 03:23 UTC

https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?

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On Mar 25, 2023 at 8:23:30 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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> https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
> It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?

I would say Windows with some sort of skin.

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 by: David Brooks - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 09:23 UTC

On 26/03/2023 04:23, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
> It's a screengrab from a TV program.  OS/2?  Something fictitious?

I'm fairly sure that it is Windows 3.1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_3.1x

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 by: 😎 Mighty Wannabe - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 09:26 UTC

On 3/25/2023 11:23 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
> It's a screengrab from a TV program.  OS/2?  Something fictitious?

OS/2 was created by IBM in a fight between IBM and Microsoft.

In the 1980s IBM created the IBM PC line of personal computers.
Microsoft was making the DOS for IBM's PC line of personal computers,
namely IBM DOS and Microsoft DOS. Eventually Microsoft made Windows 3.1
and 4.1, and IBM clone business was thriving. People flocked to the
cheap IBM clones instead of the expensive Apple for personal computing.
IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the
motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it. Because
of this, OS/2 had only a small niche market, and PC clones and Microsoft
Windows won the PC war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS/2

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 by: FromTheRafters - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 11:41 UTC

David Brooks laid this down on his screen :
> On 26/03/2023 04:23, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
>> It's a screengrab from a TV program.  OS/2?  Something fictitious?
>
> I'm fairly sure that it is Windows 3.1
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_3.1x

Looks a lot like this:

http://www.tech2u.com.au/training/tech2u/win98_1/disk.html

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 by: Big Al - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 13:13 UTC

On 3/26/23 05:26, this is what 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
> On 3/25/2023 11:23 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
>> It's a screengrab from a TV program.  OS/2?  Something fictitious?
>
> OS/2 was created by IBM in a fight between IBM and Microsoft.
>
> In the 1980s IBM created the IBM PC line of personal computers. Microsoft was making the DOS for IBM's PC line of
> personal computers, namely IBM DOS and Microsoft DOS. Eventually Microsoft made Windows 3.1 and 4.1, and IBM clone
> business was thriving. People flocked to the cheap IBM clones instead of the expensive Apple for personal computing. IBM
> made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who
> dared copy it. Because of this, OS/2 had only a small niche market, and PC clones and Microsoft Windows won the PC war.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS/2
>
>
>
I won a boxed OS/2 at some computer trade show back then. Yes, it was a fight between MS and IBM and I kinda liked the
OS/2. But yes, the cheap clones and pirate copies of Windows made the choice easy.
--
Al

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 by: Ken Blake - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 16:34 UTC

On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 03:34:46 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
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>On Mar 25, 2023 at 8:23:30 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
><op.12d81gbamvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>
>> https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
>> It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
>
>I would say Windows with some sort of skin.

My guess is an old version of Windows. 3.0? 3.1?

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 by: FromTheRafters - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 17:48 UTC

Ken Blake submitted this idea :
> On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 03:34:46 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 25, 2023 at 8:23:30 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.12d81gbamvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>
>>> https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
>>> It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
>>
>> I would say Windows with some sort of skin.
>
>
> My guess is an old version of Windows. 3.0? 3.1?

I don't remember them as having the 'oblique wafer' type of drive
properties graphic.

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On Mar 26, 2023 at 9:34:16 AM MST, "Ken Blake" wrote
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> On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 03:34:46 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
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>> On Mar 25, 2023 at 8:23:30 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.12d81gbamvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>
>>> https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
>>> It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
>>
>> I would say Windows with some sort of skin.
>
>
> My guess is an old version of Windows. 3.0? 3.1?

I think a newer version... skinned, of course.

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On Mar 26, 2023 at 10:56:22 AM MST, "Bosun Jimmy" wrote
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> David Brooks wrote:
>> On 26/03/2023 04:23, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
>>> It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
>>
>> I'm fairly sure that it is Windows 3.1
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_3.1x
>
>
> The screen-shot says, "File System: FAT 32."
>
> The FAT 32 file system started with Windows 95 OSR2 in 1996.
> Some years after Windows 3.1.

I am guessing Windows 98... but would have to look at screenshots of those
screens from different versions to be sure.

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 by: T - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 19:32 UTC

On 3/26/23 06:13, Big Al wrote:
> I kinda liked the OS/2

I was really fond of it too. I hated when
it went away.

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 by: 😎 Mighty Wannabe - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 19:59 UTC

On 3/26/2023 3:32 PM, T wrote:
> On 3/26/23 06:13, Big Al wrote:
>> I kinda liked the OS/2
>
> I was really fond of it too.  I hated when
> it went away.

A computer is useless if you cannot find software for it. I remember in
OS/2 days most of the users were employees in banking institutions.
Banks can afford to pay through the nose for some expensive word
processing software from IBM.

I can do almost everything I want to do with my Windows OS. I use free
software from the internet, or pirated software from BitTorrent. I find
it challenging and enjoyable to dodge viruses and malware from pirated
software. After decades of practice I am very good at that. My
experience was built on having to re-install Windows literally hundreds
of times since Windows 95 days to purge nasty and persistent malware.

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 by: T - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 21:21 UTC

On 3/26/23 12:59, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
> On 3/26/2023 3:32 PM, T wrote:
>> On 3/26/23 06:13, Big Al wrote:
>>> I kinda liked the OS/2
>>
>> I was really fond of it too.  I hated when
>> it went away.
>
> A computer is useless if you cannot find software for it. I remember in
> OS/2 days most of the users were employees in banking institutions.
> Banks can afford to pay through the nose for some expensive word
> processing software from IBM.
>
> I can do almost everything I want to do with my Windows OS. I use free
> software from the internet, or pirated software from BitTorrent. I find
> it challenging and enjoyable to dodge viruses and malware from pirated
> software. After decades of practice I am very good at that. My
> experience was built on having to re-install Windows literally hundreds
> of times since Windows 95 days to purge nasty and persistent malware.
>
>
The one thing loved about OS2 was that it could
run Windows software more stable and faster than
on Windows. And it was true multitasking.
I still use Word Pro and Approach (Smart Suite)
under Wine, which is a challenge at times.
IBM now gives it away for free now. I also use
Free Office and Libre Office. I have never need
M$ Office and as I refuse to pay their monopoly
price for it. And the fact that htey used
unethical practices to run their competitors
out of business.
I do not pirate. It is that "thou shalt not steal"
thing that Christians are commanded to follow. I do
no mind paying for software as long as it works
right and is reasonably priced. I renew my
Master PDF Editor every year without fail.
I do get my anti viruses (ESET) free as an NFR
(Not For Resale) as I resell it.
I run Fedora no-a-days with a lot of qemu-kvm virtual machines. Twelve
at last count. A few of them are
for testing ISOs and USB flash drives

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 by: 😎 Mighty Wannabe - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 22:05 UTC

On 3/26/2023 5:21 PM, T wrote:
> On 3/26/23 12:59, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
>> On 3/26/2023 3:32 PM, T wrote:
>>> On 3/26/23 06:13, Big Al wrote:
>>>> I kinda liked the OS/2
>>>
>>> I was really fond of it too.  I hated when
>>> it went away.
>>
>> A computer is useless if you cannot find software for it. I remember
>> in OS/2 days most of the users were employees in banking
>> institutions. Banks can afford to pay through the nose for some
>> expensive word processing software from IBM.
>>
>> I can do almost everything I want to do with my Windows OS. I use
>> free software from the internet, or pirated software from BitTorrent.
>> I find it challenging and enjoyable to dodge viruses and malware from
>> pirated software. After decades of practice I am very good at that.
>> My experience was built on having to re-install Windows literally
>> hundreds of times since Windows 95 days to purge nasty and persistent
>> malware.
>>
>>
>
> The one thing loved about OS2 was that it could
> run Windows software more stable and faster than
> on Windows.  And it was true multitasking.
>
> I still use Word Pro and Approach (Smart Suite)
> under Wine, which is a challenge at times.
> IBM now gives it away for free now.  I also use
> Free Office and Libre Office.  I have never need
> M$ Office and as I refuse to pay their monopoly
> price for it.  And the fact that htey used
> unethical practices to run their competitors
> out of business.
>
> I do not pirate.  It is that "thou shalt not steal"
> thing that Christians are commanded to follow.  I do
> no mind paying for software as long as it works
> right and is reasonably priced. I renew my
> Master PDF Editor every year without fail.
> I do get my anti viruses (ESET) free as an NFR
> (Not For Resale) as I resell it.
>
> I run Fedora no-a-days with a lot of qemu-kvm virtual machines. Twelve
> at last count.  A few of them are
> for testing ISOs and USB flash drives
>

Someone has to pay, otherwise there will not be any software for the
leechers to leech. You should keep paying, so we can leech. Thank you.

Human beings are inherently evil. That's why Adam and Eve sinned. I
blame the Abrahamic God for my urge to leech.

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 by: David Brooks - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 22:12 UTC

On 01/01/1970 01:00, Bosun Jimmy wrote:
> David Brooks wrote:
>> On 26/03/2023 04:23, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
>>> It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
>>
>> I'm fairly sure that it is Windows 3.1
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_3.1x
>
>
> The screen-shot says, "File System: FAT 32."
>
> The FAT 32 file system started with Windows 95 OSR2 in 1996.
> Some years after Windows 3.1.

You are correct ..... but your 'clock' is wrong!

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In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
> https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
> It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?

Which TV show, season, and episode? Maybe not a real OS, but a customized one.
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 02:31:51 +0100, Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:

> In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>> https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
>> It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
>
> Which TV show, season, and episode?

Stargate SG-1, season 6, episode 5.

> Maybe not a real OS, but a customized one.

Why would they go to all that trouble for it to be shown for about 5 seconds?

It's also badly done, the boot drive is empty, yet the OS is running?

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On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 14:13:38 +0100, Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:

> On 3/26/23 05:26, this is what 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:
>> On 3/25/2023 11:23 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
>>> It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
>>
>> OS/2 was created by IBM in a fight between IBM and Microsoft.
>>
>> In the 1980s IBM created the IBM PC line of personal computers. Microsoft was making the DOS for IBM's PC line of
>> personal computers, namely IBM DOS and Microsoft DOS. Eventually Microsoft made Windows 3.1 and 4.1, and IBM clone
>> business was thriving. People flocked to the cheap IBM clones instead of the expensive Apple for personal computing. IBM
>> made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who
>> dared copy it. Because of this, OS/2 had only a small niche market, and PC clones and Microsoft Windows won the PC war.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS/2
>>
> I won a boxed OS/2 at some computer trade show back then. Yes, it was a fight between MS and IBM and I kinda liked the
> OS/2. But yes, the cheap clones and pirate copies of Windows made the choice easy.

47% of Windows round the world is pirate now. 8 of them are mine.

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On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote:

> On 3/25/2023 11:23 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> https://i.imgur.com/HZlXAyx.jpg
>> It's a screengrab from a TV program. OS/2? Something fictitious?
>
> OS/2 was created by IBM in a fight between IBM and Microsoft.
>
> In the 1980s IBM created the IBM PC line of personal computers.
> Microsoft was making the DOS for IBM's PC line of personal computers,
> namely IBM DOS and Microsoft DOS. Eventually Microsoft made Windows 3.1
> and 4.1, and IBM clone business was thriving. People flocked to the
> cheap IBM clones instead of the expensive Apple for personal computing..
> IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the
> motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it. Because
> of this, OS/2 had only a small niche market, and PC clones and Microsoft
> Windows won the PC war.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS/2

What exactly did they threaten to sue about? Copying the hardware or the software? So how come everyone wasn't sued? We're all using IBM clones aren't we?

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Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote:
>
>> IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the
>> motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it.
>
> What exactly did they threaten to sue about?  Copying the hardware or
> the software?

🙄 :rolls_eyes:

Sue about copying IBM's proprietary "micro-channel" technology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture

> So how come everyone wasn't sued? We're all using IBM clones aren't we?

The clones did not use Micro Channel. The clones advanced from ISA to PCI.
Micro Channel had only a small niche market, and PCI won the day.

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On 27/03/2023 07:58, James McDougal wrote:
> Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote:
>>
>>> IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the
>>> motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it.
>>
>> What exactly did they threaten to sue about?  Copying the hardware or
>> the software?
>
> 🙄 :rolls_eyes:
>
> Sue about copying IBM's proprietary "micro-channel" technology.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture
>
>
>> So how come everyone wasn't sued? We're all using IBM clones aren't we?
>
> The clones did not use Micro Channel. The clones advanced from ISA to PCI.
> Micro Channel had only a small niche market, and PCI won the day.

You obviously know about computers! Thank you for your answer. 🙂

Can you answer the question which I asked previously?
Message-ID: <T56RL.1060071$gGD7.255827@fx11.iad>

https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-detect-and-get-rid-of-malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics

Is there REALLY such a thing?

TIA

--
David

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On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 07:58:47 +0100, James McDougal <JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:

> Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote:
>>
>>> IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the
>>> motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it.
>>
>> What exactly did they threaten to sue about? Copying the hardware or
>> the software?
>
> 🙄 :rolls_eyes:
>
> Sue about copying IBM's proprietary "micro-channel" technology.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture

The sentence was "IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology".

Since OS/2 AFAIK is a software OS, I couldn't see hardware being within it.

>> So how come everyone wasn't sued? We're all using IBM clones aren't we?
>
> The clones did not use Micro Channel. The clones advanced from ISA to PCI.
> Micro Channel had only a small niche market, and PCI won the day.

Pity that other proprietary company doesn't go the same way - Apple.

IBM are still screwing everyone around. World Community Grid has had a lot of trouble converting from IBM servers to generic ones.

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On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 08:29:00 +0100, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 27/03/2023 07:58, James McDougal wrote:
>> Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote:
>>>
>>>> IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the
>>>> motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it.
>>>
>>> What exactly did they threaten to sue about? Copying the hardware or
>>> the software?
>>
>> 🙄 :rolls_eyes:
>>
>> Sue about copying IBM's proprietary "micro-channel" technology.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture
>>
>>
>>> So how come everyone wasn't sued? We're all using IBM clones aren't we?
>>
>> The clones did not use Micro Channel. The clones advanced from ISA to PCI.
>> Micro Channel had only a small niche market, and PCI won the day.
>
> You obviously know about computers! Thank you for your answer. 🙂
>
> Can you answer the question which I asked previously?
> Message-ID: <T56RL.1060071$gGD7.255827@fx11.iad>
>
> https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-detect-and-get-rid-of-malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
>
> Is there REALLY such a thing?

I've never observed it, it is possible. My BIOS has protection against it, so thre must be threats out there. The first answer in Quora is correct:

****
Removal is the "easier" part: You either flash back original software into the firmware, exchange the firmware or you can't.
Detection:
1. Symptoms (it behaves differently from original software)
2. Byte by Byte firmware comparison with original one.
****

I would simply flash it with the same as already should be on it. If it's a PC motherboard BIOS, this can be done within Windows, you used to have to load it on using a USB stick within the BIOS. I assume Macs are similar? I've never actually been in a Mac's BIOS settings - can you press a key at power on to get to basic settings before the OS like on a PC? I know there are some keys which do special things before the OS loads when the OS is needing fixed.

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On 27/03/2023 09:40, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 08:29:00 +0100, David Brooks
> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> On 27/03/2023 07:58, James McDougal wrote:
>>> Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 10:26:34 +0100, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the
>>>>> motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it.
>>>>
>>>> What exactly did they threaten to sue about?  Copying the hardware or
>>>> the software?
>>>
>>>    🙄 :rolls_eyes:
>>>
>>> Sue about copying IBM's proprietary "micro-channel" technology.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture
>>>
>>>
>>>> So how come everyone wasn't sued?  We're all using IBM clones aren't
>>>> we?
>>>
>>> The clones did not use Micro Channel. The clones advanced from ISA to
>>> PCI.
>>> Micro Channel had only a small niche market, and PCI won the day.
>>
>> You obviously know about computers! Thank you for your answer. 🙂
>>
>> Can you answer the question which I asked previously?
>> Message-ID: <T56RL.1060071$gGD7.255827@fx11.iad>
>>
>> https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-detect-and-get-rid-of-malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
>>
>> Is there REALLY such a thing?
>
> I've never observed it, it is possible.  My BIOS has protection against
> it, so thre must be threats out there.  The first answer in Quora is
> correct:
>
> ****
> Removal is the "easier" part: You either flash back original software
> into the firmware, exchange the firmware or you can't.
> Detection:
> 1. Symptoms (it behaves differently from original software)
> 2. Byte by Byte firmware comparison with original one.
> ****
>
> I would simply flash it with the same as already should be on it.  If
> it's a PC motherboard BIOS, this can be done within Windows, you used to
> have to load it on using a USB stick within the BIOS.  I assume Macs are
> similar?  I've never actually been in a Mac's BIOS settings - can you
> press a key at power on to get to basic settings before the OS like on a
> PC?  I know there are some keys which do special things before the OS
> loads when the OS is needing fixed.

As far as I'm aware there is *NO* equivalent to BIOS settings on a Mac.
But I'm willing to learn!

I found this, which you may wish to explore:-

https://macpaw.com/how-to/mac-bios-mode#:~:text

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On 3/27/2023 4:36 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
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> <JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
>
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>>>
>>>> IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the
>>>> motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it.
>>>
>>> What exactly did they threaten to sue about?  Copying the hardware or
>>> the software?
>>
>>   🙄 :rolls_eyes:
>>
>> Sue about copying IBM's proprietary "micro-channel" technology.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Channel_architecture
>
> The sentence was "IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel"
> technology".
>
> Since OS/2 AFAIK is a software OS, I couldn't see hardware being
> within it.
>

"IBM made the OS/2, and within it the "micro-channel" technology in the
motherboard, and vowed to sue any clone maker who dared copy it."

You stopped reading, so you missed "in the motherboard". Motherboard is
hardware.

Maybe I should have used "with it" instead of "within it".

>>> So how come everyone wasn't sued?  We're all using IBM clones aren't
>>> we?
>>
>> The clones did not use Micro Channel. The clones advanced from ISA to
>> PCI.
>> Micro Channel had only a small niche market, and PCI won the day.
>
> Pity that other proprietary company doesn't go the same way - Apple.
>
> IBM are still screwing everyone around.  World Community Grid has had
> a lot of trouble converting from IBM servers to generic ones.

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