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 by: Alan Baker - Fri, 9 Jul 2021 21:25 UTC

"...Apple M1 chip"

<https://www.tomsguide.com/news/toms-guide-hero-awards-2021>

'The Apple M1 chip is the kind of breakthrough that redefines what a
computer can do. And this piece of Apple Silicon — which delivers
stellar performance along with record-breaking battery life — was years
in the making.

After creating the A Series for the iPhone and scaling it up for the
iPad, Apple’s team of engineers set its sights on the Mac, but the M1
chip couldn’t just match what Intel had to offer. It had to handily beat it.

“If somebody else could build a chip that was actually going to deliver
better performance inside that enclosure, what's the point? Why would we
switch?,” said Tim Milet, vice president of platform architecture at
Apple. “And so for my chip architects, that was the target.”'

Seems like, despite protestations by certain trolls, Tom's Guide seems
to think that this chip was designed by Apple...

....and that it is AWESOME:

'Meanwhile, the M1 also blows away most Windows laptops on performance,
both in so-called Universal apps that take full advantage of Apple
Silicon and older programs that run on Apple’s Rosetta 2 software to
make them compatible. That was a key ingredient to making Apple Silicon
viable on Macs.'

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 by: Sail Fisherman - Fri, 9 Jul 2021 22:47 UTC

On Fri, 9 Jul 2021 14:25:30 -0700, Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
scrit:
> "...Apple M1 chip"

All Apple designs are crap (they can't even fab their own chips).
Apple can't even design a modem. Everything Apple makes is stolen crap.
All Apple can do is use buy all its IP from ARM and TSMC and Qualcomm.

And besides Apple making only crap, what does your Apple crap have to do
with non Apple newsgroups?

Please return your Apple crap back to your own Apple crap newsgroup where
this advertising crap of the IP Apple buys from all the others belongs.

Everything Apple sells is crap.

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 by: Alan Baker - Fri, 9 Jul 2021 23:05 UTC

On 2021-07-09 3:47 p.m., Sail Fisherman wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Jul 2021 14:25:30 -0700, Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
> scrit:
>> "...Apple M1 chip"

Let's break this down...

>
> All Apple designs are crap

Tom's Guide disagrees.

> (they can't even fab their own chips).

What does not fabbing your own chips have to do with design? Nothing.

And lots of companies don't fab their own chips. Qualcomm doesn't fab
its won chips.

> Apple can't even design a modem.

"Can't", or doesn't see the need for?

> Everything Apple makes is stolen crap.
> All Apple can do is use buy all its IP from ARM and TSMC and Qualcomm.

They license an ISA from ARM and design all their own chips to run it.

TSMC is a fab company, so what IP do they even have that Apple would buy?

Qualcomm makes modems and Apple uses them? So?

And make up your mind:

Does Apple steal or buy?

>
> And besides Apple making only crap, what does your Apple crap have to do
> with non Apple newsgroups?
>
> Please return your Apple crap back to your own Apple crap newsgroup where
> this advertising crap of the IP Apple buys from all the others belongs.

You decided to reply in every group.

Why do you get to do that if you want me to refrain?

>
> Everything Apple sells is crap.

Tom's Guide disagrees.

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 by: John Doe - Fri, 9 Jul 2021 23:20 UTC

So what's it got to do with Windows...

--
Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> wrote:

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> "...Apple M1 chip"
>
> <https://www.tomsguide.com/news/toms-guide-hero-awards-2021>
>
> 'The Apple M1 chip is the kind of breakthrough that redefines what a
> computer can do. And this piece of Apple Silicon � " which delivers
> stellar performance along with record-breaking battery life � " was years
> in the making.
>
> After creating the A Series for the iPhone and scaling it up for the
> iPad, Apple� Ts team of engineers set its sights on the Mac, but the M1
> chip couldn� Tt just match what Intel had to offer. It had to handily beat it.
>
> � oIf somebody else could build a chip that was actually going to deliver
> better performance inside that enclosure, what's the point? Why would we
> switch?,� said Tim Milet, vice president of platform architecture at
> Apple. � oAnd so for my chip architects, that was the target.� '
>
> Seems like, despite protestations by certain trolls, Tom's Guide seems
> to think that this chip was designed by Apple...
>
> ...and that it is AWESOME:
>
> 'Meanwhile, the M1 also blows away most Windows laptops on performance,
> both in so-called Universal apps that take full advantage of Apple
> Silicon and older programs that run on Apple� Ts Rosetta 2 software to
> make them compatible. That was a key ingredient to making Apple Silicon
> viable on Macs.'
>
>

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 by: Sail Fisherman - Fri, 9 Jul 2021 23:26 UTC

On Fri, 9 Jul 2021 16:06:33 -0700, Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
scrit:
> Let's break this down...

Everything Apple sells is crap.

None of your Apple crap belongs on the Android newsgroup.
None of your Apple crap belongs on the Windows newsgroup.

Apple sells only crap.
Please keep the Apple crap on the Apple newsgroups.

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 by: paul - Fri, 9 Jul 2021 23:28 UTC

Alan Baker wrote on 10.07.2021 08:26
> I can see why you're afraid of honest debate.

Debate your Apple crap all you like on the Apple newsgroups.

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 by: Alan Baker - Fri, 9 Jul 2021 23:29 UTC

On 2021-07-09 4:28 p.m., paul wrote:
> Alan Baker wrote on 10.07.2021 08:26
>> I can see why you're afraid of honest debate.
>
> Debate your Apple crap all you like on the Apple newsgroups.
>

Arlen, you bring up Apple all the time...

....and you fear honest debate as well.

:-)

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