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* Jagged Alliance 3 and Xenonauts 2Metal Guru
+- Re: Jagged Alliance 3 and Xenonauts 2Spalls Hurgenson
+- Re: Jagged Alliance 3 and Xenonauts 2Zaghadka
+* Re: Jagged Alliance 3 and Xenonauts 2Ross Ridge
|`- Re: Jagged Alliance 3 and Xenonauts 2Metal Guru
`- Re: Jagged Alliance 3 and Xenonauts 2JAB

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From: MetalG...@IsItYou.com (Metal Guru)
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Subject: Jagged Alliance 3 and Xenonauts 2
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 20:58:44 -0400
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 by: Metal Guru - Wed, 19 Jul 2023 00:58 UTC

Anybody looking forward to these two games? JA2 is one of my all time
favorites and initial reviews of JA3 have been very positive so far.

I didn't much care for the first Xenonauts, I found it pretty dull and
quit after a few hours. I might give it another go while I wait for the
prices of both games to drop, though.

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From: spallshu...@gmail.com (Spalls Hurgenson)
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 by: Spalls Hurgenson - Wed, 19 Jul 2023 12:13 UTC

On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 20:58:44 -0400, Metal Guru <MetalGuru@IsItYou.com>
wrote:

>Anybody looking forward to these two games? JA2 is one of my all time
>favorites and initial reviews of JA3 have been very positive so far.
>
>I didn't much care for the first Xenonauts, I found it pretty dull and
>quit after a few hours. I might give it another go while I wait for the
>prices of both games to drop, though.

Not particularly, but I say that with a good deal of regret.

The "Jagged Alliance" games are a franchise I just never could get
into. I think that is largely because - when they were new - I was
burnt out playing so much X-Com, and this made me look more harshly on
the JA games than they deserved. The series felt like a clunkier, less
imaginative version of Microprose's titles. It's not a fair
assessment, but that's how I felt at the time, and I've never been
entirely able to overcome that initial impression.

"Xenonauts" /was/ a clunkier, less impressive version of "X-Com", and
it had the bad luck to be released around the same time as I was
replaying (or at least trying to replay) the UFO series, which were
also shallow retreads of X-Com. It looked exceptionally poor compared
to the newer X-Com games too which - for all their faults - added some
much-needed excitement and visual polish to the genre.

But in truth, the "Jagged Alliance" and "Xenonauts" franchises are
fine... if you really dig the old-school tactical RNG combat of the
originals and want more, more, more! of the stuff. Myself, while I can
appreciate the genre it never had all that much draw for me. I can
play them here and there, but it's not the sort of thing I get really
excited about. I may eventually give JA3 and X2 a look; I may even
like the games. But I'm not waiting on tenterhooks for their release.

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 by: Zaghadka - Wed, 19 Jul 2023 13:15 UTC

On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 20:58:44 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Metal Guru wrote:

>Anybody looking forward to these two games? JA2 is one of my all time
>favorites and initial reviews of JA3 have been very positive so far.
>
>I didn't much care for the first Xenonauts, I found it pretty dull and
>quit after a few hours. I might give it another go while I wait for the
>prices of both games to drop, though.

JA3 looks good. Looks like they kept the spirit of the series. Turn-based
tactics are a favorite of mine.

Still have to wade into Wasteland 3 first though.

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From: rri...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Ross Ridge)
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 by: Ross Ridge - Wed, 19 Jul 2023 14:55 UTC

Metal Guru <MetalGuru@IsItYou.com> wrote:
>Anybody looking forward to these two games? JA2 is one of my all time
>favorites and initial reviews of JA3 have been very positive so far.

I was really tempted to pre-order Jagged Alliance 3, but I still need
to get a video card for my new PC so I can play modern games and recent
unexpected expenses have put that off even further. Aside from that I
promised myself to try to make a dent in my video game backlog this summer
by playing older less demanding games that wouldn't heat my room as much.

>I didn't much care for the first Xenonauts, I found it pretty dull and
>quit after a few hours. I might give it another go while I wait for the
>prices of both games to drop, though.

I liked it better than the Firaxis XCOM games, though it's a bit dry.
I'll pick up Xenonauts 2 eventually, but not while its still in early
access. From the sounds of things there's still a fair bit about the
game that's unfinished.

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 by: Metal Guru - Wed, 19 Jul 2023 18:42 UTC

On 7/19/2023 10:55 AM, Ross Ridge wrote:
> Metal Guru <MetalGuru@IsItYou.com> wrote:
>> Anybody looking forward to these two games?
>
> I liked it better than the Firaxis XCOM games, though it's a bit dry.
> I'll pick up Xenonauts 2 eventually, but not while its still in early
> access. From the sounds of things there's still a fair bit about the
> game that's unfinished.

Yeah, I didn't realize it was still in early access.

These delays are wild though - Xenonauts 2 was announced more than 7
years ago, definitely not a good sign. They're approaching GTA6/TES6
levels of development time and are now saying at least 9 months to a
year before full release. And the game doesn't even look all that
different from the first one graphically and gameplay wise, either.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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From: now...@nochance.com (JAB)
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 by: JAB - Fri, 21 Jul 2023 09:13 UTC

On 19/07/2023 01:58, Metal Guru wrote:
> Anybody looking forward to these two games? JA2 is one of my all time
> favorites and initial reviews of JA3 have been very positive so far.
>
> I didn't much care for the first Xenonauts, I found it pretty dull and
> quit after a few hours. I might give it another go while I wait for the
> prices of both games to drop, though.
>

I have looked a Xenoauts but my impression was that it was basically
XCom with a smaller budget. As I still haven't finished that I thought
there's no point in buying Xenoauts as well.

JA 3, that interests me more, even though I've not played 1 or 2, just a
bit too pricey at the moment so it's gone onto the wishlist.

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