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 by: dale - Tue, 11 Apr 2023 01:43 UTC

I think I recall that Agent limits lines to 80 characters.

That limits crossposting?

Can I make a Template with the groups I usually crosspost to that are
80 characters or less?

Drafts don't stick around.

Re: Agent?

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From: ahk...@chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman)
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Subject: Re: Agent?
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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Tue, 11 Apr 2023 03:42 UTC

dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:

>I think I recall that Agent limits lines to 80 characters.

>That limits crossposting?

>Can I make a Template with the groups I usually crosspost to that are
>80 characters or less?

>Drafts don't stick around.

Look at a very long header line in the article you just posted.

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account="U2FsdGVkX19mLgSdh1QrlwytGPjRrq0XChNQYhfsCW4="

The continuation lines just start with a whitespace character.

The newsreader will figure it out without intervention.

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 by: Ralph Fox - Tue, 11 Apr 2023 09:58 UTC

On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 21:43:34 -0400, dale wrote:

> I think I recall that Agent limits lines to 80 characters.

Really?

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> That limits crossposting?

But Agent does have a great setting for killing ECP from shotgun crossposters.

Folder >> Default Properties >> Receiving Messages >> Usenet Crossposting
If a message is posted to [ 4 ] or more newsgroups
Perform this action for all folders
[ Skip the header (do not retireve it) |v]

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-- Beowulf.

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 by: Sqwertz - Wed, 12 Apr 2023 13:43 UTC

On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 03:42:39 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote:

> dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
>
>>I think I recall that Agent limits lines to 80 characters.
>
>>That limits crossposting?
>
>>Can I make a Template with the groups I usually crosspost to that are
>>80 characters or less?
>
>>Drafts don't stick around.
>
> Look at a very long header line in the article you just posted.
>
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> host="787a4ab25f0a133c5765202b0f678345";
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> september.org"; posting-
> account="U2FsdGVkX19mLgSdh1QrlwytGPjRrq0XChNQYhfsCW4="
>
> The continuation lines just start with a whitespace character.
>
> The newsreader will figure it out without intervention.

That's actually one continuous line in the raw article's headers.
*Your* newsreader added the whitespace for legibility at your end.
And that line was added by the server, not the news reader/client.

I doubt Agent has an 80-character limit in outgoing header lines.
And the OP is probably a rampant, noisy cross-poster. So if Agent
*does* limit that line to 80 characters then that's 'A Good
Thing'. But it would not be NNTP compliant.

-sw

-sw

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Subject: Re: Agent?
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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Wed, 12 Apr 2023 15:45 UTC

Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.compost> wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 03:42:39 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>
>> dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
>>
>>>I think I recall that Agent limits lines to 80 characters.
>>
>>>That limits crossposting?
>>
>>>Can I make a Template with the groups I usually crosspost to that are
>>>80 characters or less?
>>
>>>Drafts don't stick around.
>>
>> Look at a very long header line in the article you just posted.
>>
>> Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-
>> host="787a4ab25f0a133c5765202b0f678345";
>> logging-data="2517897"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-
>> september.org"; posting-
>> account="U2FsdGVkX19mLgSdh1QrlwytGPjRrq0XChNQYhfsCW4="
>>
>> The continuation lines just start with a whitespace character.
>>
>> The newsreader will figure it out without intervention.
>
>That's actually one continuous line in the raw article's headers.
>*Your* newsreader added the whitespace for legibility at your end.
>And that line was added by the server, not the news reader/client.

I looked at the text. I see a continuation line beginning with a tab
character.

>. . .

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 by: Sqwertz - Sun, 23 Apr 2023 06:39 UTC

On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 15:45:00 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote:

> Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.compost> wrote:
>>On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 03:42:39 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>
>>> dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I think I recall that Agent limits lines to 80 characters.
>>>
>>>>That limits crossposting?
>>>
>>>>Can I make a Template with the groups I usually crosspost to that are
>>>>80 characters or less?
>>>
>>>>Drafts don't stick around.
>>>
>>> Look at a very long header line in the article you just posted.
>>>
>>> Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-
>>> host="787a4ab25f0a133c5765202b0f678345";
>>> logging-data="2517897"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-
>>> september.org"; posting-
>>> account="U2FsdGVkX19mLgSdh1QrlwytGPjRrq0XChNQYhfsCW4="
>>>
>>> The continuation lines just start with a whitespace character.
>>>
>>> The newsreader will figure it out without intervention.
>>
>>That's actually one continuous line in the raw article's headers.
>>*Your* newsreader added the whitespace for legibility at your end.
>>And that line was added by the server, not the news reader/client.
>
> I looked at the text. I see a continuation line beginning with a tab
> character.

No the line looks exactly like this: (without the ">").

> Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="787a4ab25f0a133c5765202b0f678345"; logging-data="2517897"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19mLgSdh1QrlwytGPjRrq0XChNQYhfsCW4="

But of course your newsreader probably just reformatted that,
too). There are no CR's or LF's in NNTP headers.
And it was added by the news server *after* Agent sent it.

-sw

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 by: Ralph Fox - Sun, 23 Apr 2023 09:30 UTC

On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 01:39:26 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> There are no CR's or LF's in NNTP headers.

The spec [1] says something different, that CRLF can be inserted before
a whitespace to allow a logical header line to exceed the 998/78
character limitations per physical line.

Adam's reply to the OP is about this.

[1] REF: <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5322#section-2.2.3>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
2.2.3. Long Header Fields

Each header field is logically a single line of characters comprising
the field name, the colon, and the field body. For convenience
however, and to deal with the 998/78 character limitations per line,
the field body portion of a header field can be split into a
multiple-line representation; this is called "folding". The general
rule is that wherever this specification allows for folding white
space (not simply WSP characters), a CRLF may be inserted before any
WSP.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

--
Regards
Ralph

"Ne sorga, snotor guma! Selre bið æghwæm, þæt he his freond wrece, þonne he fela murne."
-- Beowulf.

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 by: Sn!pe - Sun, 23 Apr 2023 10:09 UTC

Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.compost> wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 15:45:00 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>
> > Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.compost> wrote:
> >>On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 03:42:39 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> >>
> >>> dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>I think I recall that Agent limits lines to 80 characters.
> >>>
> >>>>That limits crossposting?
> >>>
> >>>>Can I make a Template with the groups I usually crosspost to that are
> >>>>80 characters or less?
> >>>
> >>>>Drafts don't stick around.
> >>>
> >>> Look at a very long header line in the article you just posted.
> >>>
> >>> Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-
> >>> host="787a4ab25f0a133c5765202b0f678345";
> >>> logging-data="2517897"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-
> >>> september.org"; posting-
> >>> account="U2FsdGVkX19mLgSdh1QrlwytGPjRrq0XChNQYhfsCW4="
> >>>
> >>> The continuation lines just start with a whitespace character.
> >>>
> >>> The newsreader will figure it out without intervention.
> >>
> >>That's actually one continuous line in the raw article's headers.
> >>*Your* newsreader added the whitespace for legibility at your end.
> >>And that line was added by the server, not the news reader/client.
> >
> > I looked at the text. I see a continuation line beginning with a tab
> > character.
>
> No the line looks exactly like this: (without the ">").
>
> > Injection-Info: dont-email.me;
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>
> But of course your newsreader probably just reformatted that,
> too). There are no CR's or LF's in NNTP headers.
>
> And it was added by the news server *after* Agent sent it.
>
> -sw

Please explain how folded headers are made without using CR or LF.

(see folded headers in this article or in this example shown on Howard
Knight's site: <http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=168224434100>)

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 by: Sqwertz - Sun, 30 Apr 2023 09:24 UTC

On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 21:30:18 +1200, Ralph Fox wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 01:39:26 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> There are no CR's or LF's in NNTP headers.
>
> The spec [1] says something different, that CRLF can be inserted before
> a whitespace to allow a logical header line to exceed the 998/78
> character limitations per physical line.

But that's NOT how the header he was referencing was formatted.
And you knew that, too.

-sw

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 by: Ralph Fox - Sun, 30 Apr 2023 18:47 UTC

On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 04:24:23 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 21:30:18 +1200, Ralph Fox wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 01:39:26 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> There are no CR's or LF's in NNTP headers.
>>
>> The spec [1] says something different, that CRLF can be inserted before
>> a whitespace to allow a logical header line to exceed the 998/78
>> character limitations per physical line.
>
> But that's NOT how the header he was referencing was formatted.
> And you knew that, too.

The physical header Adam was referring to WAS formatted as Adam described.
With a CRLF followed by a tab character.
Screen-shot: <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=26_xm23wc4fq79h__folded-header-line.gif>

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Kind regards
Ralph

"𝘍𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘴 𝘥𝘰 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘦𝘹𝘪𝘴𝘵 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘨𝘯𝘰𝘳𝘦𝘥" -- 𝖠𝗅𝖽𝗈𝗎𝗌 𝖧𝗎𝗑𝗅𝖾𝗒

Re: Agent?

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Subject: Re: Agent?
Date: Sun, 7 May 2023 20:47:38 -0000 (UTC)
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>
>=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=n Sun, 23 Apr 2=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=23 21:3=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=:18 +12=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?==?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=, Ralph F=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=x wr=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=te:
>
>> =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=n Sun, 23 Apr 2=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=23 =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=1:39:26 -=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=5=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?==?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=, Sqwertz wr=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=te:
>>
>>> There are n=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= CR's =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=r LF's in NNTP headers.
>>
>> The spec [1] says s=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=mething different, that CRLF can be inserted bef=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=re
>> a whitespace t=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= all=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=w a l=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=gical header line t=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= exceed the 998/78
>> character limitati=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=ns per physical line.
>
>But that's N=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=T h=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=w the header he was referencing was f=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=rmatted.
>And y=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=u knew that, t=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?==?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=.
>
>-sw

If CR and LF aren't all=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=wed in headers then why d=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= servers and news readers all=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=w it?

Perhaps after 28 years, s=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=me=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=ne sh=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=uld audit s=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=me =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=f this =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=ld br=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=ken usenet s=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=ftware stuff bef=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=re s=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=me=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=ne catches =?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=n that there are backd=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?==?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=rs and vulns everywhere and decides t=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?= use it f=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=r m=?UTF-8?B?4p2E?=re than LULZ.

Re: Agent?

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From: legalize...@mail.xmission.com (Richard)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Agent?
Date: Mon, 8 May 2023 20:08:56 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Richard - Mon, 8 May 2023 20:08 UTC
Attachments: nntp-headers.log (text/plain)

[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]

Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.compost> spake the secret code
<19slgf5n22f92$.dlg@sqwertz.com> thusly:

>On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 03:42:39 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>
>> dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
>>
>>>I think I recall that Agent limits lines to 80 characters.
>>
>>>That limits crossposting?
>>
>>>Can I make a Template with the groups I usually crosspost to that are
>>>80 characters or less?
>>
>>>Drafts don't stick around.
>>
>> Look at a very long header line in the article you just posted.
>>
>> Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-
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>> logging-data="2517897"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-
>> september.org"; posting-
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>>
>> The continuation lines just start with a whitespace character.
>>
>> The newsreader will figure it out without intervention.
>
>That's actually one continuous line in the raw article's headers.
>*Your* newsreader added the whitespace for legibility at your end.

Nope. See attached log.

It's one continuous *logical* line implemented as multiple *physical*
lines.

I count 2 physical lines making up the Injection-Info header.
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 by: Sqwertz - Thu, 11 May 2023 23:56 UTC

On Mon, 01 May 2023 06:47:20 +1200, Ralph Fox wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 04:24:23 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 21:30:18 +1200, Ralph Fox wrote:
>>> On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 01:39:26 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>>> There are no CR's or LF's in NNTP headers.
>>>
>>> The spec [1] says something different, that CRLF can be inserted before
>>> a whitespace to allow a logical header line to exceed the 998/78
>>> character limitations per physical line.
>>
>> But that's NOT how the header he was referencing was formatted.
>> And you knew that, too.
>
> The physical header Adam was referring to WAS formatted as Adam described.
> With a CRLF followed by a tab character.
> Screen-shot: <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=26_xm23wc4fq79h__folded-header-line.gif>

No, it's not. The raw data from my news server does not include a
CR-LF-TAB. And I seriously doubt your news server or an
intermediary reformatted it. Or that my news server reformatted
it just to make a fool of me. (On second thought, hmmm...)

-sw

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 by: Sqwertz - Fri, 12 May 2023 00:00 UTC

See?

And what was the purpose of this contradictory hoopla?

-sw

On Mon, 8 May 2023 20:08:56 -0000 (UTC), in news.software.readers
you wrote:

> Path: not-for-mail
> From: Richard <legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com>
> Newsgroups: news.software.readers
> Subject: Re: Agent?
> Date: Mon, 8 May 2023 20:08:56 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Ralph Fox - Sat, 13 May 2023 08:15 UTC

On Thu, 11 May 2023 18:56:20 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 01 May 2023 06:47:20 +1200, Ralph Fox wrote:
>>
>> The physical header Adam was referring to WAS formatted as Adam described.
>> With a CRLF followed by a tab character.
>> Screen-shot: <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=26_xm23wc4fq79h__folded-header-line.gif>
>
> No, it's not. The raw data from my news server does not include a
> CR-LF-TAB. And I seriously doubt your news server or an
> intermediary reformatted it. Or that my news server reformatted
> it just to make a fool of me. (On second thought, hmmm...)

Here is the log from PuTTY connected to news.neodome.net port 119.
I do not use neodome normally.
But I could reproduce this with neodome and no login. So you can too.

| =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= PuTTY log 2023.05.13 19:55:59 =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=
| 200 news.neodome.net InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.6.3 ready (posting ok)
| GROUP news.software.readers
| 211 889 1536 2425 news.software.readers
| ARTICLE <vie93i9c0r63bv36e89g79o5o588mi98b1@4ax.com>
| 220 0 <vie93i9c0r63bv36e89g79o5o588mi98b1@4ax.com> article
| Path: news.neodome.net!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
| From: dale <dale@dalekelly.org>
| Newsgroups: news.software.readers
| Subject: Agent?
| Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 21:43:34 -0400
| Organization: https://www.dalekelly.org
| Lines: 9
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| logging-data="2517897"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19mLgSdh1QrlwytGPjRrq0XChNQYhfsCW4="
| User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
| Cancel-Lock: sha1:SgxCtKWqwCvbx/pmQybsATBRi4w=
| Xref: news.neodome.net news.software.readers:2362
|
| I think I recall that Agent limits lines to 80 characters.
|
| That limits crossposting?
|
| Can I make a Template with the groups I usually crosspost to that are
| 80 characters or less?
|
| Drafts don't stick around.
|
| .
| QUIT
| 205 Bye!

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Kind regards
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From: legalize...@mail.xmission.com (Richard)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Agent?
Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 16:26:29 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Richard - Wed, 17 May 2023 16:26 UTC

[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]

Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.compost> spake the secret code
<23pxu201fzj7$.dlg@sqwertz.com> thusly:

>See?
>
>And what was the purpose of this contradictory hoopla?

You stated that there was no CRLF continuation line in the header, but
there was. The raw log dump was removing the possibility that it was
being reflowed/reformatted by my news reader.

As has been pointed out by others in this thread, the article contains
a continuation line (CRLF followed by whitespace) on many servers. I
suppose it's possible that one server could remove the fold and store
it as one single physical line, although I don't see why this would be
of any benefit as there are still physical line length limits
specified in the RFC for usenet messages (which is why continuation
lines are allowed in the first place).

The suggested physical line length limitation is there to allow
processing software to use fixed-length buffers for a line and not
have to dynamically resize the buffers during processing.
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 by: Sqwertz - Thu, 25 May 2023 10:47 UTC

On Sat, 13 May 2023 20:15:44 +1200, Ralph Fox wrote:

> On Thu, 11 May 2023 18:56:20 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Mon, 01 May 2023 06:47:20 +1200, Ralph Fox wrote:
>>>
>>> The physical header Adam was referring to WAS formatted as Adam described.
>>> With a CRLF followed by a tab character.
>>> Screen-shot: <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=26_xm23wc4fq79h__folded-header-line.gif>
>>
>> No, it's not. The raw data from my news server does not include a
>> CR-LF-TAB. And I seriously doubt your news server or an
>> intermediary reformatted it. Or that my news server reformatted
>> it just to make a fool of me. (On second thought, hmmm...)
>
> Here is the log from PuTTY connected to news.neodome.net port 119.
> I do not use neodome normally.
> But I could reproduce this with neodome and no login. So you can too.
>
>| =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= PuTTY log 2023.05.13 19:55:59 =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=
>| 200 news.neodome.net InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.6.3 ready (posting ok)
>| GROUP news.software.readers
>| 211 889 1536 2425 news.software.readers
>| ARTICLE <vie93i9c0r63bv36e89g79o5o588mi98b1@4ax.com>
>| 220 0 <vie93i9c0r63bv36e89g79o5o588mi98b1@4ax.com> article
>| Path: news.neodome.net!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
>| From: dale <dale@dalekelly.org>
>| Newsgroups: news.software.readers
>| Subject: Agent?
>| Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 21:43:34 -0400
>| Organization: https://www.dalekelly.org
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>| logging-data="2517897"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19mLgSdh1QrlwytGPjRrq0XChNQYhfsCW4="
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>| Xref: news.neodome.net news.software.readers:2362
>|
>| I think I recall that Agent limits lines to 80 characters.
>|
>| That limits crossposting?
>|
>| Can I make a Template with the groups I usually crosspost to that are
>| 80 characters or less?
>|
>| Drafts don't stick around.
>|
>| .
>| QUIT
>| 205 Bye!

I'm not going to bother with trying to remember how to telnet into
my newsserver with USER/PASS (or something like that), but Dialog
shows the raw headers without any whitespace as from
blocknews.net. I remember doing it twice with an obnoxious log
level. Bbut I don't remember why the fuck we're having this petty
argument or if it has anything do with the OP - Covey Quadrant #9.

You can have the last word now.

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 by: Sqwertz - Thu, 25 May 2023 10:53 UTC

On Wed, 17 May 2023 16:26:29 -0000 (UTC), Richard wrote:

> [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
>
> Sqwertz <sqwertzme@gmail.compost> spake the secret code
> <23pxu201fzj7$.dlg@sqwertz.com> thusly:
>
>>See?
>>
>>And what was the purpose of this contradictory hoopla?
>
> You stated that there was no CRLF continuation line in the header, but
> there was. The raw log dump was removing the possibility that it was
> being reflowed/reformatted by my news reader.
>
> As has been pointed out by others in this thread, the article contains
> a continuation line (CRLF followed by whitespace) on many servers. I
> suppose it's possible that one server could remove the fold and store
> it as one single physical line, although I don't see why this would be
> of any benefit as there are still physical line length limits
> specified in the RFC for usenet messages (which is why continuation
> lines are allowed in the first place).
>
> The suggested physical line length limitation is there to allow
> processing software to use fixed-length buffers for a line and not
> have to dynamically resize the buffers during processing.

Uh, the 'contradictory hoopla' was your uber-annoying mail
headers.

Never mind.

What a waste of time. Beam me out of here, Scotty!

-sw

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