I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
use with moder versions of the mac OS?

In article <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
> complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
> use with moder versions of the mac OS?

which model ricoh, what error did it give and did you use the correct
driver, which should install automatically?

On Oct 5, 2021 at 5:51:56 PM PDT, "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
>> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
>> complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
>> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
>
> which model ricoh, what error did it give and did you use the correct
> driver, which should install automatically?

Ricoh Aficio SP C242SF.
"Scanner reported and error. An error occured while communicating with the
scanner."
Nothing related to Ricoh ever installed automatically when I bought it some
10+ years ago, but I've updated drivers as systems changed. Currently driver
2.03 PS driver and ICA 1.02 for the scanner.
Printer works find and always has. Scanner won't respond.

On Oct 5, 2021 at 5:49:28 PM PDT, "gtr" <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:

> I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
> complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
> use with moder versions of the mac OS?

I managed to figure it out to my satisfaction. Ricoh's driver for networked
use is limited to the printer, and I figure their hurry-up programmers didn't
do the scanner communications right. I've hooked up the USB line to the
printer and that works fine for for scanning and printing; so I'll go with
that.

Still curious to know if CUPS is of any value. I noted an error in the console
from a few months back.

On 2021-10-06 3:42 p.m., Gerry wrote:
> On Oct 5, 2021 at 5:49:28 PM PDT, "gtr" <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
>> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
>> complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
>> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
>
> I managed to figure it out to my satisfaction. Ricoh's driver for networked
> use is limited to the printer, and I figure their hurry-up programmers didn't
> do the scanner communications right. I've hooked up the USB line to the
> printer and that works fine for for scanning and printing; so I'll go with
> that.
>
> Still curious to know if CUPS is of any value. I noted an error in the console
> from a few months back.
>

CUPS stands for "Common Unix Printing System"...

....and has nothing do with scanning.

In message <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
> complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
> use with moder versions of the mac OS?

CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.

It has nothing to do with scanning AFAIK, that is usually handled by
TWAIN or something similar.

--
Mom: There was more than one lobster present at the birth of Jesus?
Daughter: Duh.

On Oct 6, 2021 at 4:34:38 PM PDT, "Alan Baker" <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
wrote:

> On 2021-10-06 3:42 p.m., Gerry wrote:
>> On Oct 5, 2021 at 5:49:28 PM PDT, "gtr" <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
>>> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
>>> complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
>>> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
>>
>> I managed to figure it out to my satisfaction. Ricoh's driver for networked
>> use is limited to the printer, and I figure their hurry-up programmers didn't
>> do the scanner communications right. I've hooked up the USB line to the
>> printer and that works fine for for scanning and printing; so I'll go with
>> that.
>>
>> Still curious to know if CUPS is of any value. I noted an error in the console
>> from a few months back.
>>
>
> CUPS stands for "Common Unix Printing System"...
>
> ...and has nothing do with scanning.

Right you are but that wasn't my question. My question: "Is CUPS of any use
with moder versions of the mac OS?"

On Oct 6, 2021 at 8:50:45 PM PDT, "Lewis" <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

> In message <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>> I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
>> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
>> complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
>> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
>
> CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.

I've been printing without using CUPS for years, so it is apparently used for
printing in special circumstances. What would those be? Printing directly from
the unix CLI alone?

> It has nothing to do with scanning AFAIK, that is usually handled by TWAIN or
> something similar.

Twain has been dead for many years so it has nothing to do with current
scanning processes.

On 2021-10-06 9:01 p.m., Gerry wrote:
> On Oct 6, 2021 at 4:34:38 PM PDT, "Alan Baker" <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2021-10-06 3:42 p.m., Gerry wrote:
>>> On Oct 5, 2021 at 5:49:28 PM PDT, "gtr" <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
>>>> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
>>>> complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
>>>> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
>>>
>>> I managed to figure it out to my satisfaction. Ricoh's driver for networked
>>> use is limited to the printer, and I figure their hurry-up programmers didn't
>>> do the scanner communications right. I've hooked up the USB line to the
>>> printer and that works fine for for scanning and printing; so I'll go with
>>> that.
>>>
>>> Still curious to know if CUPS is of any value. I noted an error in the console
>>> from a few months back.
>>>
>>
>> CUPS stands for "Common Unix Printing System"...
>>
>> ...and has nothing do with scanning.
>
> Right you are but that wasn't my question. My question: "Is CUPS of any use
> with moder versions of the mac OS?"
>

And my question to you would be:

Have you done any checking AT ALL into this on your own.

On 2021-10-06 9:03 p.m., Gerry wrote:
> On Oct 6, 2021 at 8:50:45 PM PDT, "Lewis" <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>> In message <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>> I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
>>> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
>>> complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
>>> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
>>
>> CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.
>
> I've been printing without using CUPS for years,

Not on Mac OS you haven't.

> so it is apparently used for
> printing in special circumstances. What would those be? Printing directly from
> the unix CLI alone?
>
>> It has nothing to do with scanning AFAIK, that is usually handled by TWAIN or
>> something similar.
>
> Twain has been dead for many years so it has nothing to do with current
> scanning processes.

Given that you don't understand what CUPS has been doing for you, you'll
understand if I doubt your expertise to declare that.

In message <sjlrj1$nuo$1@dont-email.me> Gerry <address@domain.com> wrote:
> On Oct 6, 2021 at 8:50:45 PM PDT, "Lewis" <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

>> In message <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>> I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
>>> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
>>> complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
>>> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
>>
>> CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.

> I've been printing without using CUPS for years,

Not on macOS (née OS X) you haven't. You may not have realized it, but
the printing subsystem on MacOS is CUPS. It is also used in various
flavors of Linux.

>> It has nothing to do with scanning AFAIK, that is usually handled by TWAIN or
>> something similar.

> Twain has been dead for many years so it has nothing to do with current
> scanning processes.

Thus "or something similar".

--
Get in there you big furry oaf! I don't care what you smell!

On 2021-10-06 05:35:41 +0000, Gerry said:

> On Oct 5, 2021 at 5:51:56 PM PDT, "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In article <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
>>> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
>>> complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
>>> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
>>
>> which model ricoh, what error did it give and did you use the correct
>> driver, which should install automatically?
>
> Ricoh Aficio SP C242SF.
> "Scanner reported and error. An error occured while communicating with the
> scanner."
> Nothing related to Ricoh ever installed automatically when I bought it some
> 10+ years ago, but I've updated drivers as systems changed. Currently driver
> 2.03 PS driver and ICA 1.02 for the scanner.
> Printer works find and always has. Scanner won't respond.

I know you've found a solution now, but this sounds the same to the
problem many of us HP users had a little while back - same problem and
error message.

In that case the problem wasn't with the devices nor the driver
software itself. It was reportedly caused by Apple (possibly at HP's
request) expiring the valdiation certificates for the old versions of
the drivers. Suddenly everything just stopped working. Installing
updated drivers helped some people either fully or partially (printing,
but still no scanning). For those of us with mainly older "outdated"
devices that HP couldn't be bothered updating drivers for, we had to
wait for Apple / HP to fix the problem at their end and re-establish
the validation. From memory it took a few days, but just as suddenly
started working again.

On Oct 6, 2021 at 9:27:06 PM PDT, "Alan Baker" <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
wrote:

> On 2021-10-06 9:01 p.m., Gerry wrote:
>> On Oct 6, 2021 at 4:34:38 PM PDT, "Alan Baker" <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2021-10-06 3:42 p.m., Gerry wrote:
>>>> On Oct 5, 2021 at 5:49:28 PM PDT, "gtr" <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
>>>>> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
>>>>> complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
>>>>> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
>>>>
>>>> I managed to figure it out to my satisfaction. Ricoh's driver for networked
>>>> use is limited to the printer, and I figure their hurry-up programmers didn't
>>>> do the scanner communications right. I've hooked up the USB line to the
>>>> printer and that works fine for for scanning and printing; so I'll go with
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> Still curious to know if CUPS is of any value. I noted an error in the console
>>>> from a few months back.
>>>>
>>>
>>> CUPS stands for "Common Unix Printing System"...
>>>
>>> ...and has nothing do with scanning.
>>
>> Right you are but that wasn't my question. My question: "Is CUPS of any use
>> with moder versions of the mac OS?"
>>
>
> And my question to you would be:
>
> Have you done any checking AT ALL into this on your own.

I'm doing that now, but I appreciate the idea that I should ask someone else
before asking you.

On Oct 6, 2021 at 9:28:21 PM PDT, "Alan Baker" <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
wrote:

> On 2021-10-06 9:03 p.m., Gerry wrote:
>> On Oct 6, 2021 at 8:50:45 PM PDT, "Lewis" <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>>
>>> In message <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>>> I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
>>>> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
>>>> complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
>>>> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
>>>
>>> CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.
>>
>> I've been printing without using CUPS for years,
>
> Not on Mac OS you haven't.

Yes I have: I disabled it personally and directly in the terminal.

>> so it is apparently used for
>> printing in special circumstances. What would those be? Printing directly from
>> the unix CLI alone?
>>
>>> It has nothing to do with scanning AFAIK, that is usually handled by TWAIN or
>>> something similar.
>>
>> Twain has been dead for many years so it has nothing to do with current
>> scanning processes.
>
> Given that you don't understand what CUPS has been doing for you, you'll
> understand if I doubt your expertise to declare that.

Thank you for your complete lack of input.

On Oct 6, 2021 at 9:52:02 PM PDT, "Lewis" <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

> In message <sjlrj1$nuo$1@dont-email.me> Gerry <address@domain.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 6, 2021 at 8:50:45 PM PDT, "Lewis" <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>>> In message <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>>> I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
>>>> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
>>>> complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
>>>> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
>>>
>>> CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.
>
>> I've been printing without using CUPS for years,
>
> Not on macOS (née OS X) you haven't. You may not have realized it, but
> the printing subsystem on MacOS is CUPS. It is also used in various
> flavors of Linux.
>
>>> It has nothing to do with scanning AFAIK, that is usually handled by TWAIN or
>>> something similar.
>
>> Twain has been dead for many years so it has nothing to do with current
>> scanning processes.
>
> Thus "or something similar".

What's similar?

On Oct 6, 2021 at 9:28:21 PM PDT, "Alan Baker" <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
wrote:

> On 2021-10-06 9:03 p.m., Gerry wrote:
>> On Oct 6, 2021 at 8:50:45 PM PDT, "Lewis" <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>>
>>> In message <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>>> I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
>>>> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
>>>> complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
>>>> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
>>>
>>> CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.
>>
>> I've been printing without using CUPS for years,
>
> Not on Mac OS you haven't.

From somewhere on the net I was supposed to look before asking anything here:

"So my advice would be to disable CUPS if you are not printing anything on a
public network. One way to do this is by killing the CUPS Daemon from the
terminal. Just type in ps ax | grep cupsd and then sudo kill -9 PID# (where
PID# is the first number in the output of the ps command) and it's dead Jim!"

There other other disables, one of which I used.

>
>> so it is apparently used for
>> printing in special circumstances. What would those be? Printing directly from
>> the unix CLI alone?
>>
>>> It has nothing to do with scanning AFAIK, that is usually handled by TWAIN or
>>> something similar.
>>
>> Twain has been dead for many years so it has nothing to do with current
>> scanning processes.
>
> Given that you don't understand what CUPS has been doing for you, you'll
> understand if I doubt your expertise to declare that.

On 2021-10-06 10:53 p.m., Gerry wrote:
> On Oct 6, 2021 at 9:27:06 PM PDT, "Alan Baker" <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2021-10-06 9:01 p.m., Gerry wrote:
>>> On Oct 6, 2021 at 4:34:38 PM PDT, "Alan Baker" <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2021-10-06 3:42 p.m., Gerry wrote:
>>>>> On Oct 5, 2021 at 5:49:28 PM PDT, "gtr" <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
>>>>>> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
>>>>>> complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
>>>>>> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
>>>>>
>>>>> I managed to figure it out to my satisfaction. Ricoh's driver for networked
>>>>> use is limited to the printer, and I figure their hurry-up programmers didn't
>>>>> do the scanner communications right. I've hooked up the USB line to the
>>>>> printer and that works fine for for scanning and printing; so I'll go with
>>>>> that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still curious to know if CUPS is of any value. I noted an error in the console
>>>>> from a few months back.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> CUPS stands for "Common Unix Printing System"...
>>>>
>>>> ...and has nothing do with scanning.
>>>
>>> Right you are but that wasn't my question. My question: "Is CUPS of any use
>>> with moder versions of the mac OS?"
>>>
>>
>> And my question to you would be:
>>
>> Have you done any checking AT ALL into this on your own.
>
> I'm doing that now, but I appreciate the idea that I should ask someone else
> before asking you.
>

Do your homework FIRST.

On 2021-10-06 10:55 p.m., Gerry wrote:
> On Oct 6, 2021 at 9:28:21 PM PDT, "Alan Baker" <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2021-10-06 9:03 p.m., Gerry wrote:
>>> On Oct 6, 2021 at 8:50:45 PM PDT, "Lewis" <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In message <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>>>> I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
>>>>> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
>>>>> complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
>>>>> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
>>>>
>>>> CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.
>>>
>>> I've been printing without using CUPS for years,
>>
>> Not on Mac OS you haven't.
>
> Yes I have: I disabled it personally and directly in the terminal.

Bullshit.

>
>>> so it is apparently used for
>>> printing in special circumstances. What would those be? Printing directly from
>>> the unix CLI alone?
>>>
>>>> It has nothing to do with scanning AFAIK, that is usually handled by TWAIN or
>>>> something similar.
>>>
>>> Twain has been dead for many years so it has nothing to do with current
>>> scanning processes.
>>
>> Given that you don't understand what CUPS has been doing for you, you'll
>> understand if I doubt your expertise to declare that.
>
> Thank you for your complete lack of input.
>

Thank YOU for your complete lack of honesty.

In article <sjm27v$kql$1@dont-email.me>, Gerry <address@domain.com>
wrote:

> >>>
> >>> CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.
> >>
> >> I've been printing without using CUPS for years,
> >
> > Not on Mac OS you haven't.
>
> From somewhere on the net I was supposed to look before asking anything here:
>
> "So my advice would be to disable CUPS if you are not printing anything on a
> public network. One way to do this is by killing the CUPS Daemon from the
> terminal. Just type in ps ax | grep cupsd and then sudo kill -9 PID# (where
> PID# is the first number in the output of the ps command) and it's dead Jim!"

that quote is from here:
<http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20031124044732910>

which is *eighteen* years old and stupid advice.

On 2021-10-06 10:57 p.m., Gerry wrote:
> On Oct 6, 2021 at 9:28:21 PM PDT, "Alan Baker" <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2021-10-06 9:03 p.m., Gerry wrote:
>>> On Oct 6, 2021 at 8:50:45 PM PDT, "Lewis" <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In message <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>>>> I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
>>>>> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
>>>>> complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
>>>>> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
>>>>
>>>> CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.
>>>
>>> I've been printing without using CUPS for years,
>>
>> Not on Mac OS you haven't.
>
> From somewhere on the net I was supposed to look before asking anything here:
>
> "So my advice would be to disable CUPS if you are not printing anything on a
> public network. One way to do this is by killing the CUPS Daemon from the
> terminal. Just type in ps ax | grep cupsd and then sudo kill -9 PID# (where
> PID# is the first number in the output of the ps command) and it's dead Jim!"
>
> There other other disables, one of which I used.

So you took advice from 2003?

Tell you what:

Use the terminal command "cupsctl" and see what it says.

agbaker$ cupsctl
_debug_logging=0
_remote_admin=0
_remote_any=0
_share_printers=0
_user_cancel_any=0
BrowseLocalProtocols=dnssd
DefaultAuthType=Basic
JobPrivateAccess=default
JobPrivateValues=default
PageLogFormat=
SubscriptionPrivateAccess=default
SubscriptionPrivateValues=default
WebInterface=No

And CUPS is used for printers connected by USB, too.

In message <sjm23l$k71$1@dont-email.me> Gerry <address@domain.com> wrote:
> On Oct 6, 2021 at 9:28:21 PM PDT, "Alan Baker" <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
> wrote:

>> On 2021-10-06 9:03 p.m., Gerry wrote:
>>> On Oct 6, 2021 at 8:50:45 PM PDT, "Lewis" <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In message <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>>>>> I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
>>>>> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
>>>>> complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
>>>>> use with moder versions of the mac OS?
>>>>
>>>> CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.
>>>
>>> I've been printing without using CUPS for years,
>>
>> Not on Mac OS you haven't.

> Yes I have: I disabled it personally and directly in the terminal.

No, you haven't. CUPS is how all printing on mac works. It even
replaces the lp command line utility, same as on Fedora and other flavors
of linux.

>> Given that you don't understand what CUPS has been doing for you, you'll
>> understand if I doubt your expertise to declare that.

> Thank you for your complete lack of input.

You asked about CUPS, you were given answers, and then you demonstrated
that not only did you not care about the answer, you were completely
uninformed and protecting your willful ignorance

--
The universe doesn't much care if you tread on a butterfly. There are
plenty more butterflies. Gods might note the fall of a sparrow
but they don't make any effort to catch them. --Lords and Ladies

In message <sjm27v$kql$1@dont-email.me> Gerry <address@domain.com> wrote:
> "So my advice would be to disable CUPS if you are not printing anything on a
> public network. One way to do this is by killing the CUPS Daemon from the
> terminal. Just type in ps ax | grep cupsd and then sudo kill -9 PID# (where
> PID# is the first number in the output of the ps command) and it's dead Jim!"

And as soon as you print, the service restarts. I believe this even
includes if you "print" to PDF, but I am not sure about that.

--
“Man, that’s a real shame when folks be throwin’ away a perfectly good white
boy like that.

On 2021-10-05 20:49, gtr wrote:
> I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
> complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
> use with moder versions of the mac OS?

I am not sure CUPS does "scanning". Its purpose is to take printabel
output and either send it to printer or use a "plug in" to convert the
printable stuff into the format needed for that specific printer.

For instance, I have CUPS on my server with a plug in that converts the
postscript to Digital,s SIXEL bitmaps to print onto a dot matrix label
printer.

Perhaps newer versions handle incoming data, but to me CUPS has always
been mostly from server to printer in terms of data flow outside of
protocol (there is some back and forth for protocol and postcript commands).

As an example, my newer Canon printer is set to postscript only, and I
just put in a .PPD file on moth server and desktop and voila. For
scanning, the Canon "printer" uses totally separate protocols, such as
SMB or email to send documents back to a computer and doesn't use any
printing protocols.

On 2021 Oct 07, Gerry wrote
(in article <sjm23l$k71$1@dont-email.me>):

> On Oct 6, 2021 at 9:28:21 PM PDT, "Alan Baker"<notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
> wrote:
>
> > On 2021-10-06 9:03 p.m., Gerry wrote:
> > > On Oct 6, 2021 at 8:50:45 PM PDT, "Lewis"<g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > In message<sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me> gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
> > > > > I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It
> > > > > keeps
> > > > > returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
> > > > > complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of
> > > > > any
> > > > > use with moder versions of the mac OS?
> > > >
> > > > CUPS is how Unix prints, so yes it is used for PRINTING in macOS.
> > >
> > > I've been printing without using CUPS for years,
> >
> > Not on Mac OS you haven't.
>
> Yes I have: I disabled it personally and directly in the terminal.

Son, CUPS is how you print on a Mac. (And some other UNIX systems.) If you
kill ir, it will restart the next time you run a print job.. If you do
something to kill it so that it can’t restart you won’t be able to print.

CUPS on my Mac lists every print job, including print-to-PDF, going back to
Dec 2019, that being the last time that I updated it. I see that there’s a
new update. I see that there’s a ’new’ update, as of April 2020. I may
download and install it.

AFAIK you could kill CUPS and have it stay dead up to about Tiger or Panther,
but after that it would rise from the dead, and it wouldn’t take three
days, either.

If you have been printing on a Mac since Panther or Tiger, I can’t remember
which one and can’t be arsed to look it up, you’ve been printing using
CUPS. Period. Saying different merely makes you look stupid.
>
>
> > > so it is apparently used for
> > > printing in special circumstances. What would those be? Printing directly
> > > from
> > > the unix CLI alone?
> > >
> > > > It has nothing to do with scanning AFAIK, that is usually handled by
> > > > TWAIN or
> > > > something similar.
> > >
> > > Twain has been dead for many years so it has nothing to do with current
> > > scanning processes.
> >
> > Given that you don't understand what CUPS has been doing for you, you'll
> > understand if I doubt your expertise to declare that.
>
> Thank you for your complete lack of input.

You’re not just wrong, you’re loud wrong.

On 2021 Oct 05, gtr wrote
(in article <sjirqn$upk$1@dont-email.me>):

> I'm trying to make a Ricoh printer's scanner respond under OS11.6. It keeps
> returning an error. While rooting through related issues I CUPS
> complaints--likely wholly unrelated. But it makes me wonder, is CUPS of any
> use with moder versions of the mac OS?

CUPS has nothing to do with scanning.