To own an Apple product is to own an already hacked device...

Why?
Because Apple has _never_ sufficiently tested their OS before release.
<https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2019/08/a-very-deep-dive-into-ios-exploit.html>
"The root causes I highlight here are not novel and are often overlooked.
*We'll see cases of iOS code which seems to have never worked*,
*iOS code that likely skipped QA or likely had little testing*
*or no code review before the iOS release was shipped to users*."

This was for _many_ iOS releases... that Apple didn't test even once.
The fact Apple doesn't sufficiently test iOS releases is clear to adults.

All iPhones are compromised the instant Apple installs an iOS release.
The proof is _overwhelming_ Apple doesn't even _test_ much of iOS code!

The proof is not only from Project Zero - it's everywhere.
*Even Apple can't refute the fact they never tested their iOS code.*

Here's just a few verbatim quotes from security researchers at Project Zero.
"The more important takeaway, however, is what the vulnerability was.
In 2014, Apple added an unfinished implementation of a new feature named
"vouchers" and part of this new code was a new syscall (technically, a
task port MIG method) which, from what I can tell, never worked. To be
clear, if there had been a test which called the syscall with the
expected arguments, it would have caused a kernel panic. If any Apple
developer had attempted to use this feature during those four years,
their phone would have immediately crashed."

"It's difficult to understand how this error could be introduced into a
core IPC library that shipped to end users. While errors are common in
software development, a serious one like this should have quickly been
found by a unit test, code review or even fuzzing. It's especially
unfortunate as this location would naturally be one of the first ones
an attacker would look, as I detail below."

Here's another:
"It's the kernel bug used here which is, unfortunately, easy to find and
exploit (if you don't believe me, feel free to seek a second opinion!).
An IOKit device driver with an external method which in the very first
statement performs an unbounded memmove with a length argument directly
controlled by the attacker"

The amazing thing is I've never met people as ignorant as these apologists,
who, given a spoon fed easy article to read, even then they can't see _any_
facts in that article if those facts tell the truth about Apple products.
--
All of you apologists own imaginary belief systems - much like Trumpists do.

On 2021-10-06 2:31 a.m., Robin Goodfellow wrote:
> To own an Apple product is to own an already hacked device...
>
> Why?
> Because Apple has _never_ sufficiently tested their OS before release.
> <https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2019/08/a-very-deep-dive-into-ios-exploit.html>
> "The root causes I highlight here are not novel and are often overlooked.
> *We'll see cases of iOS code which seems to have never worked*,
> *iOS code that likely skipped QA or likely had little testing*
> *or no code review before the iOS release was shipped to users*."
>
> This was for _many_ iOS releases... that Apple didn't test even once.
> The fact Apple doesn't sufficiently test iOS releases is clear to adults.

Why must you lie?

Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> wrote:

> Why must you lie?

Because it is a kiddie troll.

The real question is, why do people reply to it? It just wants attention,
like all kiddie trolls.

Ignore it and it will lose interest and go away.

In article <jNydnUWVio6RH8P8nZ2dnUU7-IPNnZ2d@supernews.com>, Bob
Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:

>
> Ignore it and it will lose interest and go away.

this one won't.

On 2021 Oct 07, nospam wrote
(in article<071020210244021308%nospam@nospam.invalid>):

> In article<jNydnUWVio6RH8P8nZ2dnUU7-IPNnZ2d@supernews.com>, Bob
> Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:
>
> >
> > Ignore it and it will lose interest and go away.
>
> this one won't.

killfile it and you won’t see it’s idiocy... unless an even greater idiot
than it replies to that idiocy. my current kf entry for arlen has 19 nyms, I
just add another when it tries another nym to get attention.

I may just add that idiot, Baker, to the kf, as he seems to be totally unable
to just stop feeding the troll.

On 07/10/2021 11:13, Wolffan wrote:
> On 2021 Oct 07, nospam wrote
> (in article<071020210244021308%nospam@nospam.invalid>):
>
>> In article<jNydnUWVio6RH8P8nZ2dnUU7-IPNnZ2d@supernews.com>, Bob
>> Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ignore it and it will lose interest and go away.
>>
>> this one won't.
>
> killfile it and you won’t see it’s idiocy... unless an even greater idiot
> than it replies to that idiocy. my current kf entry for arlen has 19 nyms, I
> just add another when it tries another nym to get attention.

He's a long way to go before he catches up with ol' yellastain ;)

On 2021 Oct 07, Richard Soul wrote
(in article <sjmm42$6b7$1@gioia.aioe.org>):

> On 07/10/2021 11:13, Wolffan wrote:
> > On 2021 Oct 07, nospam wrote
> > (in article<071020210244021308%nospam@nospam.invalid>):
> >
> > > In article<jNydnUWVio6RH8P8nZ2dnUU7-IPNnZ2d@supernews.com>, Bob
> > > Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Ignore it and it will lose interest and go away.
> > >
> > > this one won't.
> >
> > killfile it and you won’t see it’s idiocy... unless an even greater
> > idiot
> > than it replies to that idiocy. my current kf entry for arlen has 19 nyms, I
> > just add another when it tries another nym to get attention.
>
> He's a long way to go before he catches up with ol' yellastain ;)

Our David is Special™. Very Special™. He’s in a category of stupid all
his own. Frankly, I’m surprised that he can walk and breathe at the same
time.

In message <0001HW.270F1A4A01C977F4700000E1238F@news.supernews.com> Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
> On 2021 Oct 07, Richard Soul wrote
> (in article <sjmm42$6b7$1@gioia.aioe.org>):

>> On 07/10/2021 11:13, Wolffan wrote:
>> > On 2021 Oct 07, nospam wrote
>> > (in article<071020210244021308%nospam@nospam.invalid>):
>> >
>> > > In article<jNydnUWVio6RH8P8nZ2dnUU7-IPNnZ2d@supernews.com>, Bob
>> > > Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Ignore it and it will lose interest and go away.
>> > >
>> > > this one won't.
>> >
>> > killfile it and you won’t see it’s idiocy... unless an even greater
>> > idiot
>> > than it replies to that idiocy. my current kf entry for arlen has 19 nyms, I
>> > just add another when it tries another nym to get attention.
>>
>> He's a long way to go before he catches up with ol' yellastain ;)

> Our David is Special™. Very Special™. He’s in a category of stupid all
> his own. Frankly, I’m surprised that he can walk and breathe at the same
> time.

David is a sociopath. I expect to see him on the news for some hideous
series of particularly gruesome crimes.

--
He glanced cautiously at the dancing shapes, which made weird and
worrying shapes on the far wall - strange biped animals, eldritch
underground things... Carrot sighed. 'Stop making shadow
pictures, Detritus.'

On 2021 Oct 07, Lewis wrote
(in article <slrnslttm4.2ci8.g.kreme@m1mini.local>):

> In message<0001HW.270F1A4A01C977F4700000E1238F@news.supernews.com> Wolffan
> <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
> > On 2021 Oct 07, Richard Soul wrote
> > (in article<sjmm42$6b7$1@gioia.aioe.org>):
>
> > > On 07/10/2021 11:13, Wolffan wrote:
> > > > On 2021 Oct 07, nospam wrote
> > > > (in article<071020210244021308%nospam@nospam.invalid>):
> > > >
> > > > > In article<jNydnUWVio6RH8P8nZ2dnUU7-IPNnZ2d@supernews.com>, Bob
> > > > > Campbell <none@none.none> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ignore it and it will lose interest and go away.
> > > > >
> > > > > this one won't.
> > > >
> > > > killfile it and you won’t see it’s idiocy... unless an even greater
> > > > idiot
> > > > than it replies to that idiocy. my current kf entry for arlen has 19
> > > > nyms, I
> > > > just add another when it tries another nym to get attention.
> > >
> > > He's a long way to go before he catches up with ol' yellastain ;)
>
> > Our David is Special™. Very Special™. He’s in a category of stupid all
> > his own. Frankly, I’m surprised that he can walk and breathe at the same
> > time.
>
> David is a sociopath. I expect to see him on the news for some hideous
> series of particularly gruesome crimes.

I figure that he’s so stupid that he’d try, and fail, and get bundled off
to the local pokey until the Powers That Be worked out that he’s nuts as
well as stupid, and dropped him in a looney bin.