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* The Transition to the P/390: A User’s ExperiencLouis Ohland
`* Re: The Transition to the P/390: A User’s ExpGrant Taylor
 `* Re: The Transition to the P/390: A User’s ExpLouis Ohland
  +* Re: The Transition to the P/390: A User’s ExpGrant Taylor
  |`- Re: The Transition to the P/390: A User’s ExperienWBSTClarke
  `* Re: The Transition to the P/390: A User’s ExperieDavid H Durgee
   `* Re: The Transition to the P/390: A User’s ExpKevin Bowling
    `- Re: The Transition to the P/390: A User’s ExpGrant Taylor

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 by: Louis Ohland - Thu, 11 Nov 2021 22:59 UTC

http://www.naspa.net/magazine/1996/March/T9603007.PDF

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 by: Grant Taylor - Fri, 12 Nov 2021 00:16 UTC

On 11/11/21 3:59 PM, Louis Ohland wrote:
> http://www.naspa.net/magazine/1996/March/T9603007.PDF

That was a very interesting read and quite applicable to my P/390-E.

Thank you for sharing Louis.

--
Grant. . . .
unix || die

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 by: Louis Ohland - Fri, 12 Nov 2021 01:17 UTC

Wish there was more on the P/370.

On 11/11/2021 18:16, Grant Taylor wrote:
> On 11/11/21 3:59 PM, Louis Ohland wrote:
>> http://www.naspa.net/magazine/1996/March/T9603007.PDF
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> That was a very interesting read and quite applicable to my P/390-E.
>
> Thank you for sharing Louis.
>
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>

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 by: Grant Taylor - Fri, 12 Nov 2021 05:51 UTC

On 11/11/21 6:17 PM, Louis Ohland wrote:
> Wish there was more on the P/370.

I see reference to it in the documentation, drivers, and programs
associated with the P/390(-E).

In some ways the P/370 ~> P/390 ~> P/390-E are different generations in
the same family.

--
Grant. . . .
unix || die

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 by: David H Durgee - Fri, 12 Nov 2021 13:06 UTC

I shipped my two P/370 systems along with associated equipment and
documentation to Kevin. I am preparing to send him another shipment
from what I missed earlier before we move. He might be able to provide
you with additional information about the P/370.

Dave

> Louis Ohland wrote:
> Wish there was more on the P/370.
>
> On 11/11/2021 18:16, Grant Taylor wrote:
>> On 11/11/21 3:59 PM, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>> http://www.naspa.net/magazine/1996/March/T9603007.PDF
>>
>> That was a very interesting read and quite applicable to my P/390-E.
>>
>> Thank you for sharing Louis.

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 by: Kevin Bowling - Sat, 13 Nov 2021 04:06 UTC

On 11/12/21 06:06, David H Durgee wrote:
> I shipped my two P/370 systems along with associated equipment and
> documentation to Kevin.  I am preparing to send him another shipment
> from what I missed earlier before we move.  He might be able to provide
> you with additional information about the P/370.
>
> Dave

Yes, from what I have gathered thus far from Tim Clarke and my own
research, the P/370 is functionally similar to the later P/390 with a
similar split of function between the CMOS core and emulated devices on
the PS/2 or RS/6k. The same software support package for OS/2 and AIX
can run it as far as I can tell but I haven't gotten that far yet.

> > Louis Ohland wrote:
>> Wish there was more on the P/370.
>>
>> On 11/11/2021 18:16, Grant Taylor wrote:
>>> On 11/11/21 3:59 PM, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>>> http://www.naspa.net/magazine/1996/March/T9603007.PDF
>>>
>>> That was a very interesting read and quite applicable to my P/390-E.
>>>
>>> Thank you for sharing Louis.

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 by: Grant Taylor - Sat, 13 Nov 2021 04:17 UTC

On 11/12/21 9:06 PM, Kevin Bowling wrote:
> The same software support package for OS/2 and AIX can run it as far as
> I can tell but I haven't gotten that far yet.

My newer P/390-E software states that it supports the older P/390 and P/370.

I would not be surprised if the older software doesn't support the newer
hardware.

--
Grant. . . .
unix || die

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 by: WBSTClarke - Tue, 16 Nov 2021 19:38 UTC

On Friday, 12 November 2021 at 05:51:04 UTC, Grant Taylor wrote:
> On 11/11/21 6:17 PM, Louis Ohland wrote:
> > Wish there was more on the P/370.
> I see reference to it in the documentation, drivers, and programs
> associated with the P/390(-E).
>
> In some ways the P/370 ~> P/390 ~> P/390-E are different generations in
> the same family.
> --
> Grant. . . .
> unix || die

The basic difference between the three generations are the memory addressing models. P/370 is 24-bit virtual addressing model, P/390 and P/390E are 31-bit (that's correct, NOT 32-bit) virtual addressing model. There are also various OS-dependent. "memory expansion" capabilities. The P/390(E) may be IPL-ed in an S/370 "mode".

The OS/2 or AIX device drivers essentially form the I/O subsystem for the program storage and execution component provided by the P/370 or P/390(E).

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