In my Folder List, only the newsgroups are shown. I don't show New,
Unread or Total.

I noticed today, that beside the newsgroup alt.os.linux.mint, this
appeared: (!)

It looks like this: alt.os.linux.mint (!)

I have searched the Claws Mail user manual, and (!) is not in there.

Anyone have any idea what it means?

Johnny wrote;

>In my Folder List, only the newsgroups are shown. I don't show New,
>Unread or Total.
>
>I noticed today, that beside the newsgroup alt.os.linux.mint, this
>appeared: (!)
>
>It looks like this: alt.os.linux.mint (!)
>
>I have searched the Claws Mail user manual, and (!) is not in there.
>
>Anyone have any idea what it means?
>
No.

I don't regularly use Claws. When I recently set it up, even tho' I
wasn't intending to use it for mail, I set up a 'dummy' email account
and Mailbox because it was necessary to do so to proceed further to
allow me to setup the news account. It isn't necessary to do that in
Tb because one can 'bail' from the initial 'requirement' to start w/ a
mail account.

My dummy Mailbox shows in the Folder view. The account has bogus
settings; I can't look at them right now w/ this compose window open.
But, the point is that the msg/s I sent to the newsgroup are found in
the Mailbox/ Sent folder.

The values of new, unread, and total for this ng are shown in the
bottom (extra) 'line' of what is called the 'thread pane' in Tb -- in
which Claws calls the same layout 'standard' (panes) folder left,
thread upper R, message lower R.

So, while I don't know the (!) answer, everything else is 'there' in
mine but not in the folder pane. I think your Sent problem is related
to perhaps not setting up some kind of Mailbox; or maybe you are also
using your Claws for mail which I don't. Oh, wait, you didn't say you
had a sent problem (missing) just new unread total.

--
Mike Easter

On 29.04.2021 at 18:57, Mike Easter scribbled:

> I don't regularly use Claws. When I recently set it up, even tho' I
> wasn't intending to use it for mail, I set up a 'dummy' email account
> and Mailbox because it was necessary to do so to proceed further to
> allow me to setup the news account.

Not over here at my end, it wasn't. I don't have any mail account
set up in my Claws Mail — dummy or otherwise.

--
With respect,
= Aragorn

Aragorn wrote:
> Not over here at my end, it wasn't. I don't have any mail account
> set up in my Claws Mail — dummy or otherwise.

Where are your ng Sent msg/s?

--
Mike Easter

On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 16:32:25 -0500
Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote:

> In my Folder List, only the newsgroups are shown. I don't show New,
> Unread or Total.
>
> I noticed today, that beside the newsgroup alt.os.linux.mint, this
> appeared: (!)
>
> It looks like this: alt.os.linux.mint (!)
>
> I have searched the Claws Mail user manual, and (!) is not in there.
>
> Anyone have any idea what it means?
>

I still don't know what (!) means, but I did find a way to get rid of
it.

I thought maybe it was showing the most used newsgroup, but that wasn't
it, because I have visited other newsgroups more.

I shutdown Claws, opened File Manager, went to
/.claws-mail/newscache/alt.os.linux.mint and deleted all messages.
When I restarted Claws Mail, it was gone.

On 29.04.2021 at 19:35, Mike Easter scribbled:

> Aragorn wrote:
>
> > Not over here at my end, it wasn't. I don't have any mail account
> > set up in my Claws Mail — dummy or otherwise.
>
> Where are your ng Sent msg/s?

They are stored in the Sent folder of the Mailbox section.

--
With respect,
= Aragorn

Aragorn wrote:
> Mike Easter scribbled:
>> Aragorn wrote:
>>
>>> Not over here at my end, it wasn't. I don't have any mail account
>>> set up in my Claws Mail — dummy or otherwise.
>>
>> Where are your ng Sent msg/s?
>
> They are stored in the Sent folder of the Mailbox section.
>
Ah. OK. Mine too. In Tb that is 'Local Folders'

--
Mike Easter

On 30.04.2021 at 11:15, Mike Easter scribbled:

> Aragorn wrote:
>
> > Mike Easter scribbled:
> >> Aragorn wrote:
> >>
> >>> Not over here at my end, it wasn't. I don't have any mail account
> >>> set up in my Claws Mail — dummy or otherwise.
> >>
> >> Where are your ng Sent msg/s?
> >
> > They are stored in the Sent folder of the Mailbox section.
> >
> Ah. OK. Mine too. In Tb that is 'Local Folders'
I still miss KNode. It's a shame no one ever ported it beyond qt3 —
the qt4 port still partly relied on the qt3 libs, but when KDE 4 was
replaced by Plasma 5, the support for stuff still relying on qt3 was
discontinued.

For a while I was using Pan — when I was still running PCLinuxOS — which
has excellent filtering capabilities, but ever since I switched to
Manjaro, I've never been able to get it to work. It would crash upon
downloading new messages when setting up the newsgroups for the first
time. I've also tried building Pan from sources using the Arch PKGBUILD,
but it made no difference — it behaved in the same manner.

For that matter, Claws Mail also periodically dies inexplicably, and it
has been doing that ever since I started using it, so I suspect that
the problem may lie elsewhere — possibly in gtk3. But at least it's
usable.

I'm not using a lot of gtk-based applications here — only Claws Mail
and Chromium, really, and occasionally Gimp — so it's a bit difficult to
pinpoint where the fatal flaw sits. I rarely ever get any crashes in
qt-based applications. In fact, it's been so long ago since I've last
had a qt-based application crash on me that I don't even remember which
one it was.

--
With respect,
= Aragorn

On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 21:18:41 +0200
Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> wrote:

> On 30.04.2021 at 11:15, Mike Easter scribbled:
>
> > Aragorn wrote:
> >
> > > Mike Easter scribbled:
> > >> Aragorn wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Not over here at my end, it wasn't. I don't have any mail
> > >>> account set up in my Claws Mail — dummy or otherwise.
> > >>
> > >> Where are your ng Sent msg/s?
> > >
> > > They are stored in the Sent folder of the Mailbox section.
> > >
> > Ah. OK. Mine too. In Tb that is 'Local Folders'
>
> I still miss KNode. It's a shame no one ever ported it beyond qt3 —
> the qt4 port still partly relied on the qt3 libs, but when KDE 4 was
> replaced by Plasma 5, the support for stuff still relying on qt3 was
> discontinued.
>
> For a while I was using Pan — when I was still running PCLinuxOS —
> which has excellent filtering capabilities, but ever since I switched
> to Manjaro, I've never been able to get it to work. It would crash
> upon downloading new messages when setting up the newsgroups for the
> first time. I've also tried building Pan from sources using the Arch
> PKGBUILD, but it made no difference — it behaved in the same manner.
>
> For that matter, Claws Mail also periodically dies inexplicably, and
> it has been doing that ever since I started using it, so I suspect
> that the problem may lie elsewhere — possibly in gtk3. But at least
> it's usable.
>
> I'm not using a lot of gtk-based applications here — only Claws Mail
> and Chromium, really, and occasionally Gimp — so it's a bit difficult
> to pinpoint where the fatal flaw sits. I rarely ever get any crashes
> in qt-based applications. In fact, it's been so long ago since I've
> last had a qt-based application crash on me that I don't even
> remember which one it was.
>

I got this message when starting Claws Mail in a terminal:

(claws-mail:13009): Gtk-WARNING **: 10:16:35.864: Unable to locate
theme engine in module_path: "hcengine", selecting folder
'#news/News/alt.os.linux.mint'

I searched for the warning, and found that installing gtk2-engines would
solve the problem, and it did. I also installed gtk2-engines-Xfce,
since I'm using Xfce.

The warning is gone, and claws hasn't crashed all day. I hope that
solved the problem.

On Wed, 5 May 2021 16:23:08 -0500
Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 21:18:41 +0200
> Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> wrote:
>
> > On 30.04.2021 at 11:15, Mike Easter scribbled:
> >
> > > Aragorn wrote:
> > >
> > > > Mike Easter scribbled:
> > > >> Aragorn wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Not over here at my end, it wasn't. I don't have any mail
> > > >>> account set up in my Claws Mail — dummy or otherwise.
> > > >>
> > > >> Where are your ng Sent msg/s?
> > > >
> > > > They are stored in the Sent folder of the Mailbox section.
> > > >
> > > Ah. OK. Mine too. In Tb that is 'Local Folders'
> >
> > I still miss KNode. It's a shame no one ever ported it beyond qt3 —
> > the qt4 port still partly relied on the qt3 libs, but when KDE 4 was
> > replaced by Plasma 5, the support for stuff still relying on qt3 was
> > discontinued.
> >
> > For a while I was using Pan — when I was still running PCLinuxOS —
> > which has excellent filtering capabilities, but ever since I
> > switched to Manjaro, I've never been able to get it to work. It
> > would crash upon downloading new messages when setting up the
> > newsgroups for the first time. I've also tried building Pan from
> > sources using the Arch PKGBUILD, but it made no difference — it
> > behaved in the same manner.
> >
> > For that matter, Claws Mail also periodically dies inexplicably, and
> > it has been doing that ever since I started using it, so I suspect
> > that the problem may lie elsewhere — possibly in gtk3. But at least
> > it's usable.
> >
> > I'm not using a lot of gtk-based applications here — only Claws Mail
> > and Chromium, really, and occasionally Gimp — so it's a bit
> > difficult to pinpoint where the fatal flaw sits. I rarely ever get
> > any crashes in qt-based applications. In fact, it's been so long
> > ago since I've last had a qt-based application crash on me that I
> > don't even remember which one it was.
> >
>
> I got this message when starting Claws Mail in a terminal:
>
> (claws-mail:13009): Gtk-WARNING **: 10:16:35.864: Unable to locate
> theme engine in module_path: "hcengine", selecting folder
> '#news/News/alt.os.linux.mint'
>
> I searched for the warning, and found that installing gtk2-engines
> would solve the problem, and it did. I also installed
> gtk2-engines-Xfce, since I'm using Xfce.
>
> The warning is gone, and claws hasn't crashed all day. I hope that
> solved the problem.
>

Well that didn't work, Claws crashed again, so I reinstalled the
operating system, and this time I installed gtk2-engines before I
installed Claws Mail.

It hasn't had a segmentation fault in 21 days.