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 by: Commander Kinsey - Sun, 16 Apr 2023 12:01 UTC

On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:29:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:23:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.13git40wmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>
>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>
>>>> I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,
>>>> Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.
>>>
>>> Is this still true with modern Windows?
>>
>> It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves
>> me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs).
>> It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've
>> logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I
>> turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal.
>> Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually
>> go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come
>> back on until I press the power button.
>
> macOS usually handles multiple monitors well, but when I use Screen Mirroring
> over AirPlay it gets all confused. Really should not. It should "just work"
> and it does not.

All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the sake of it.

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On 16/04/2023 13:02, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 19:48:53 +0100, David Brooks
> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> On 15/04/2023 19:37, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 23:13:28 +0100, David Brooks
>>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 05/04/2023 22:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:50:03 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28/03/2023 09:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
>>>>>>> <JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is there REALLY such a thing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This ought to be sufficient answer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So they can only surveil those with inadequate AV protection?  I
>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>> see how that would work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's lots to read about here, Commander! :-D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency
>>>>>
>>>>> 32000 spies.  Why the fuck does the American population put up with
>>>>> that?
>>>>
>>>> You may learn more about what they do, here:-
>>>>
>>>> https://www.nsa.gov/About/Cybersecurity-Collaboration-Center/
>>>>
>>>> You may read about our UK "spies" here if you wish:-
>>>>
>>>> https://www.mi5.gov.uk/who-we-are
>>>
>>> Where's a Guy Fawkes when you need one?
>>
>> I did consider joining MI5 when I retired early from the Royal Navy!
>>
>> Sadly, Brooks doesn't have quite the same ring about it as 'Bond'!
>
> Surely you can have a nom de er... whatever that phrase is.

To thyself be true!

> You were going to work for the government?  Traitor!

Instead, I very neary joined the POLICE!

Gosh!

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On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 13:40:31 +0100, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 16/04/2023 13:02, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 19:48:53 +0100, David Brooks
>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 15/04/2023 19:37, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 23:13:28 +0100, David Brooks
>>>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 05/04/2023 22:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:50:03 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 28/03/2023 09:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
>>>>>>>> <JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is there REALLY such a thing?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This ought to be sufficient answer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So they can only surveil those with inadequate AV protection? I
>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>> see how that would work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's lots to read about here, Commander! :-D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 32000 spies. Why the fuck does the American population put up with
>>>>>> that?
>>>>>
>>>>> You may learn more about what they do, here:-
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.nsa.gov/About/Cybersecurity-Collaboration-Center/
>>>>>
>>>>> You may read about our UK "spies" here if you wish:-
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.mi5.gov.uk/who-we-are
>>>>
>>>> Where's a Guy Fawkes when you need one?
>>>
>>> I did consider joining MI5 when I retired early from the Royal Navy!
>>>
>>> Sadly, Brooks doesn't have quite the same ring about it as 'Bond'!
>>
>> Surely you can have a nom de er... whatever that phrase is.
>
> To thyself be true!

Que?

>> You were going to work for the government? Traitor!
>
> Instead, I very neary joined the POLICE!
>
> Gosh!

The police wouldn't know right from wrong if it hit them in the face.

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On Apr 16, 2023 at 5:01:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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> On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:29:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:23:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.13git40wmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>
>>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,
>>>>> Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.
>>>>
>>>> Is this still true with modern Windows?
>>>
>>> It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves
>>> me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs).
>>> It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've
>>> logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I
>>> turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal.
>>> Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually
>>> go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come
>>> back on until I press the power button.
>>
>> macOS usually handles multiple monitors well, but when I use Screen Mirroring
>> over AirPlay it gets all confused. Really should not. It should "just work"
>> and it does not.
>
> All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed
> interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the
> sake of it.

There are times that is true. Sure.

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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 by: Commander Kinsey - Sun, 16 Apr 2023 18:31 UTC

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:34:39 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 16, 2023 at 5:01:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.13hs07f9mvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>
>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:29:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:23:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.13git40wmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,
>>>>>> Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this still true with modern Windows?
>>>>
>>>> It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves
>>>> me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs).
>>>> It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've
>>>> logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I
>>>> turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal.
>>>> Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually
>>>> go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come
>>>> back on until I press the power button.
>>>
>>> macOS usually handles multiple monitors well, but when I use Screen Mirroring
>>> over AirPlay it gets all confused. Really should not. It should "just work"
>>> and it does not.
>>
>> All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed
>> interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the
>> sake of it.
>
> There are times that is true. Sure.

Many many times.

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On Apr 16, 2023 at 11:31:25 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
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> On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:34:39 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Apr 16, 2023 at 5:01:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.13hs07f9mvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:29:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:23:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.13git40wmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,
>>>>>>> Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this still true with modern Windows?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves
>>>>> me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs).
>>>>> It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've
>>>>> logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I
>>>>> turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal.
>>>>> Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually
>>>>> go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come
>>>>> back on until I press the power button.
>>>>
>>>> macOS usually handles multiple monitors well, but when I use Screen Mirroring
>>>> over AirPlay it gets all confused. Really should not. It should "just work"
>>>> and it does not.
>>>
>>> All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed
>>> interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the
>>> sake of it.
>>
>> There are times that is true. Sure.
>
> Many many times.

It is a shame macOS seems to be heading the wrong direction with its UI.
Though also adding things... so not all bad, but I wish they had their strong
UI focus like they did in the past.

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