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* Re: green bubbleAndy Burnelli
`* Re: green bubblebadgolferman
 +- Re: green bubbleAndy Burnelli
 +- Re: green bubbleJolly Roger
 `- Re: green bubble*Hemidactylus*

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Re: green bubble

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From: nos...@nospam.net (Andy Burnelli)
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Subject: Re: green bubble
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 17:19:00 +0000
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 by: Andy Burnelli - Thu, 23 Feb 2023 17:19 UTC

badgolferman wrote:

>>I have one Gen Z child and one Millenial. The Gen Z switched to
>>iPhone since his colleagues and his students primarily use iPhones,
>>and as you mentioned, group chats between iPhone and Android users
>>are a pain. The Millenial is still on Android.
>
> Same thing here. I have a 28-year-old who has an Android and doesn't
> care a bit about group chats, and a 19-year-old social butterfly who
> has told me about the pressure involved in keeping the iPhone blue
> bubble among his peers.

Same thing here, where the boys in my extended family tend to be
technically astute and hence they prefer Android, while the girls had
wanted iPhones ever since they were impressionable high school kids.

*There's no doubt that MARKETING considers iMessage to be a glue trap*

Since I study why people act like they do (just as I study both German and
Russian society so understand their peculiarities), I wonder why.

*Certainly Apple _understands_ this peculiarity & MARKETING caters to it*

The adult question is what kind of strangely peculiar need are these kids
_solving_ when they care so much about what bubble color they show up as.

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From: REMOVETH...@gmail.com (badgolferman)
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: green bubble
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 by: badgolferman - Thu, 23 Feb 2023 18:20 UTC

Andy Burnelli wrote:

>badgolferman wrote:
>
>>>I have one Gen Z child and one Millenial. The Gen Z switched to
>>>iPhone since his colleagues and his students primarily use
>>>iPhones, and as you mentioned, group chats between iPhone and
>>>Android users are a pain. The Millenial is still on Android.
>>
>>Same thing here. I have a 28-year-old who has an Android and
>>doesn't care a bit about group chats, and a 19-year-old social
>>butterfly who has told me about the pressure involved in keeping
>>the iPhone blue bubble among his peers.
>
>Same thing here, where the boys in my extended family tend to be
>technically astute and hence they prefer Android, while the girls had
>wanted iPhones ever since they were impressionable high school kids.
>
>*There's no doubt that MARKETING considers iMessage to be a glue trap*
>
>Since I study why people act like they do (just as I study both
>German and Russian society so understand their peculiarities), I
>wonder why.
>
>*Certainly Apple understands this peculiarity & MARKETING caters to
>it*
>
>The adult question is what kind of strangely peculiar need are these
>kids solving when they care so much about what bubble color they show
>up as.

People are tribal animals. They want to be around those like
themselves. I moved into a small town of 11,000 people. I'm forever
known as a "Come Here" or "Move In" even though my kids all went to
school here, we attended church in this town for a long time, we've
been involved in community service, etc.

When it comes to iMessages it's kind of the same thing. You must act
and look like us to gain acceptance. In that respect Apple is not as
inclusive as it claims to be. They are discriminating against people
who "aren't from around here".

Also iMessages does some fancy animations and uses special emojis that
some people care about.

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Subject: Re: green bubble
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 by: Andy Burnelli - Thu, 23 Feb 2023 18:35 UTC

badgolferman wrote:

>>The adult question is what kind of strangely peculiar need are these
>>kids solving when they care so much about what bubble color they show
>>up as.
>
> People are tribal animals. They want to be around those like
> themselves.

Hi badgolferman,

Thank you for responding as it's hard to get any adult observation out of
this newsgroup just as it would be for any Jim Jones' religious gathering.

I think what you observed has merit for those kids who want to fit in.
And certainly the iPhone is the more "stylish" type of phone, for sure.

> I moved into a small town of 11,000 people. I'm forever
> known as a "Come Here" or "Move In" even though my kids all went to
> school here, we attended church in this town for a long time, we've
> been involved in community service, etc.

I think there's something to that attitude which is that you're either in
the group, or not in the group - there is nothing in between for kids.

> When it comes to iMessages it's kind of the same thing. You must act
> and look like us to gain acceptance. In that respect Apple is not as
> inclusive as it claims to be. They are discriminating against people
> who "aren't from around here".

Well, when you say it that way, you won't find me disagreeing with someone
who hears what Apple says, but who _sees_ what Apple does is different.

As an example, I noticed people like Alan Browne are absolutely convinced
that Apple removed the charger to be nice to the environment, and yet you
see differently (as do I, and even Steve realizes Apple lied about that).
> Also iMessages does some fancy animations and uses special emojis that
> some people care about.

When you first said that a couple of messages ago, I took it only as a
joke, but now I see you meant it and I do not disagree with that concept.

While Android messaging can handle any emoji your heart can desire (AFAIK),
I can understand why a less technically competent kid wouldn't know this.

And of course, I can see how two kids in puppy love would want to exchange
the cool emojis that Apple promotes, particularly the ethnically diverse.

Thank you for being an adult in your conversation, where there is nuance in
detail when discussing why other people choose the things that they choose.
--
Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
which, in this case, is to discuss why anyone cares about bubble colors.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Thu, 23 Feb 2023 20:33 UTC

On 2023-02-23, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> When it comes to iMessages it's kind of the same thing. You must act
> and look like us to gain acceptance. In that respect Apple is not as
> inclusive as it claims to be. They are discriminating against people
> who "aren't from around here".

You dip shits want to be oppressed *so* badly...

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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Sat, 25 Feb 2023 10:24 UTC

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Andy Burnelli wrote:
>
>> badgolferman wrote:
>>
>>>> I have one Gen Z child and one Millenial. The Gen Z switched to
>>>> iPhone since his colleagues and his students primarily use
>>>> iPhones, and as you mentioned, group chats between iPhone and
>>>> Android users are a pain. The Millenial is still on Android.
>>>
>>> Same thing here. I have a 28-year-old who has an Android and
>>> doesn't care a bit about group chats, and a 19-year-old social
>>> butterfly who has told me about the pressure involved in keeping
>>> the iPhone blue bubble among his peers.
>>
>> Same thing here, where the boys in my extended family tend to be
>> technically astute and hence they prefer Android, while the girls had
>> wanted iPhones ever since they were impressionable high school kids.
>>
>> *There's no doubt that MARKETING considers iMessage to be a glue trap*
>>
>> Since I study why people act like they do (just as I study both
>> German and Russian society so understand their peculiarities), I
>> wonder why.
>>
>> *Certainly Apple understands this peculiarity & MARKETING caters to
>> it*
>>
>> The adult question is what kind of strangely peculiar need are these
>> kids solving when they care so much about what bubble color they show
>> up as.
>
>
> People are tribal animals. They want to be around those like
> themselves. I moved into a small town of 11,000 people. I'm forever
> known as a "Come Here" or "Move In" even though my kids all went to
> school here, we attended church in this town for a long time, we've
> been involved in community service, etc.
>
> When it comes to iMessages it's kind of the same thing. You must act
> and look like us to gain acceptance. In that respect Apple is not as
> inclusive as it claims to be. They are discriminating against people
> who "aren't from around here".
>
> Also iMessages does some fancy animations and uses special emojis that
> some people care about.
>
Green bubbles are beneath me. I hates them.

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