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* Re: Does anyone reading here use this product?David Brooks
`* Re: Does anyone reading here use this product?Desperate Dan
 +* Re: Does anyone reading here use this product?David Brooks
 |`- Re: Does anyone reading here STALK and SLIME this product?Shadow
 +- Re: Does anyone reading here use this product?Wolffan
 `* Re: Does anyone reading here use this product?YK
  `- Re: Does anyone reading here use this product?John Smith

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Re: Does anyone reading here use this product?

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 by: David Brooks - Tue, 23 Nov 2021 14:08 UTC

On 20/01/2019 00:16, YK wrote:
> On 1/19/19 3:11 PM, David B. wrote:
>> On 19/01/2019 19:12, Bob Campbell wrote:
>>> On 1/19/19 3:54 AM, David B. wrote:
>>>> What action would *YOU* take in response to this email I've recently
>>>> received?
>>>>
>>>> https://mailchi.mp/clamxav/critical-service-information-about-clamxav-3797961?e=32ee50ad93
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I DID pay for the service and use it on my old machine!
>>>
>>> I would read the very first ******** sentence, which TELLS *you* what
>>> to do.
>>
>> I clicked on the link!
>>
>> https://www.clamxav.com/autoupgrade/CLA170503-7949-21175
>>
>> Would *YOU* install this?
>>
>
> No

What about this?

SPECIAL OFFER NOW!

https://sites.fastspring.com/clamxav/order/customer

Is this genuine, or a scam?

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From: desdan...@gmail.com.invalid (Desperate Dan)
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Subject: Re: Does anyone reading here use this product?
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 by: Desperate Dan - Tue, 23 Nov 2021 14:48 UTC

On 23/11/2021 14:08, David Brooks wrote:
> On 20/01/2019 00:16, YK wrote:
>> On 1/19/19 3:11 PM, David B. wrote:
>>> On 19/01/2019 19:12, Bob Campbell wrote:
>>>> On 1/19/19 3:54 AM, David B. wrote:
>>>>> What action would *YOU* take in response to this email I've
>>>>> recently received?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://mailchi.mp/clamxav/critical-service-information-about-clamxav-3797961?e=32ee50ad93
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I DID pay for the service and use it on my old machine!
>>>>
>>>> I would read the very first ******** sentence, which TELLS *you*
>>>> what to do.
>>>
>>> I clicked on the link!
>>>
>>> https://www.clamxav.com/autoupgrade/CLA170503-7949-21175
>>>
>>> Would *YOU* install this?
>>>
>>
>> No
>
> What about this?
>
> SPECIAL OFFER NOW!
>
> https://sites.fastspring.com/clamxav/order/customer
>
> Is this genuine, or a scam?

Do you think it is? If so, why?

BTW you're responding to a post nearly 3 years old. The world has moved
on a lot in that time.

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 by: David Brooks - Tue, 23 Nov 2021 19:58 UTC

On 23/11/2021 14:48, Desperate Dan wrote:
> On 23/11/2021 14:08, David Brooks wrote:
>> On 20/01/2019 00:16, YK wrote:
>>> On 1/19/19 3:11 PM, David B. wrote:
>>>> On 19/01/2019 19:12, Bob Campbell wrote:
>>>>> On 1/19/19 3:54 AM, David B. wrote:
>>>>>> What action would *YOU* take in response to this email I've
>>>>>> recently received?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://mailchi.mp/clamxav/critical-service-information-about-clamxav-3797961?e=32ee50ad93
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I DID pay for the service and use it on my old machine!
>>>>>
>>>>> I would read the very first ******** sentence, which TELLS *you*
>>>>> what to do.
>>>>
>>>> I clicked on the link!
>>>>
>>>> https://www.clamxav.com/autoupgrade/CLA170503-7949-21175
>>>>
>>>> Would *YOU* install this?
>>>>
>>>
>>> No
>>
>> What about this?
>>
>> SPECIAL OFFER NOW!
>>
>> https://sites.fastspring.com/clamxav/order/customer
>>
>> Is this genuine, or a scam?
>
> Do you think it is? If so, why?

I do. See below.

> BTW you're responding to a post nearly 3 years old. The world has moved
> on a lot in that time.

Indeed, but Mac malware is increasing!

This is what another Apple user says:-

MID <cPf*azOzy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>

What I'm suggesting is that I'm not convinced AV as an industry is a healthy
one. 20 years ago when everyone was running Windows 98 it was full of holes
and AV was necessary. The threats were primarily viruses that had been
floating around for years. Nowadays OSes are much better at protecting
themselves against attacks, and the threats that remain are often zero-days,
which AV doesn't protect you against. In the main, vulnerabilities are
closed by keeping your system up to date, and by thinking twice when you get
a popup asking for permissions for something.

Meanwhile AV vendors have got slimier - showing ads, installing other
unrelated software, sending telemetry home, dubious takeovers of AV firms,
increasing scaremongering about all the nasties out there (that your OS
already protects you from). AV itself hooks into all kinds of low level
interfaces on your machine where it has a huge amount of power to be malware
if it wanted to, and in doing so it slows down your machine. While it may
not actually be malware, it can sometimes cause the same performance
impact as malware (no comments about Macs here, I've mostly observed this on
Windows).

Having successfully marketed to people in the 2000s that AV was a must, I'm
not convinced it is actually useful in this day and age. But I'm open to
opinions, which is why I'm curious as to whether it has ever actually found
anything.

Theo

==

I hope this helps.

--
Regards,
David

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 by: Shadow - Tue, 23 Nov 2021 20:53 UTC

On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 19:58:02 +0000, David Brooks <DavidB@invalid.E-S>
wrote:

>Meanwhile AV vendors have got slimier - showing ads, installing other
>unrelated software, sending telemetry home, dubious takeovers of AV firms.

All of those bad points apply to Avast, yet the poster known
as Mrs Parrot (he has 98 other #FAKE_NYMS) quite often SPAMS for the
criminals that own it.
What does that say about his character?

PS Subject changed. This thread is so old it stinks as bad as
BD does on a "good" hangover day.

------------------------------------
BD: I want people to "get to know me better. I have nothing to
hide".
I'm always here to help, this page was put up at BD's request,
rather, he said "Do it *NOW*!":

<https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php>

99 confirmed #FAKE_NYMS, most used in cybercrimes!
Google "David Brooks Devon".
[]'s

--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
Google Fuchsia - 2021

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 by: Wolffan - Tue, 23 Nov 2021 22:32 UTC

On 2021 Nov 23, Desperate Dan wrote
(in article <sniv0c$gqd$1@gioia.aioe.org>):

> On 23/11/2021 14:08, David Brooks wrote:
> > On 20/01/2019 00:16, YK wrote:
> > > On 1/19/19 3:11 PM, David B. wrote:
> > > > On 19/01/2019 19:12, Bob Campbell wrote:
> > > > > On 1/19/19 3:54 AM, David B. wrote:
> > > > > > What action would *YOU* take in response to this email I've
> > > > > > recently received?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://mailchi.mp/clamxav/critical-service-information-about-clamxav-37
> > > > > > 97961?e=32ee50ad93
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I DID pay for the service and use it on my old machine!
> > > > >
> > > > > I would read the very first ******** sentence, which TELLS *you*
> > > > > what to do.
> > > >
> > > > I clicked on the link!
> > > >
> > > > https://www.clamxav.com/autoupgrade/CLA170503-7949-21175
> > > >
> > > > Would *YOU* install this?
> > >
> > > No
> >
> > What about this?
> >
> > SPECIAL OFFER NOW!
> >
> > https://sites.fastspring.com/clamxav/order/customer
> >
> > Is this genuine, or a scam?
>
> Do you think it is? If so, why?
>
> BTW you're responding to a post nearly 3 years old. The world has moved
> on a lot in that time.

He digs up necrothreads and zombifies them when he gets his prolapsed ass
kicked up around his shoulderblades. 3 years isn’t close to his record.

He’s scum. And not too smart.

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 by: YK - Tue, 23 Nov 2021 22:59 UTC

On 11/23/21 9:48 AM, Desperate Dan wrote:
> On 23/11/2021 14:08, David Brooks wrote:
>> On 20/01/2019 00:16, YK wrote:
>>> On 1/19/19 3:11 PM, David B. wrote:
>>>> On 19/01/2019 19:12, Bob Campbell wrote:
>>>>> On 1/19/19 3:54 AM, David B. wrote:
>>>>>> What action would *YOU* take in response to this email I've
>>>>>> recently received?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://mailchi.mp/clamxav/critical-service-information-about-clamxav-3797961?e=32ee50ad93
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I DID pay for the service and use it on my old machine!
>>>>>
>>>>> I would read the very first ******** sentence, which TELLS *you*
>>>>> what to do.
>>>>
>>>> I clicked on the link!
>>>>
>>>> https://www.clamxav.com/autoupgrade/CLA170503-7949-21175
>>>>
>>>> Would *YOU* install this?
>>>>
>>>
>>> No
>>
>> What about this?
>>
>> SPECIAL OFFER NOW!
>>
>> https://sites.fastspring.com/clamxav/order/customer
>>
>> Is this genuine, or a scam?
>
> Do you think it is? If so, why?
>
> BTW you're responding to a post nearly 3 years old. The world has moved
> on a lot in that time.

Because he can't seem to get past the ClamAV possibilities in his mind.
He is incapable of doing his own research and then trusting his gut
whether or not something is good, bad, or acceptable. He has been asking
the same damn question about ClamAV for going on 5 years. I think he is
a shill, promoting the product. He has been given the same information
and opinions about ClamAV during that time. Maybe he and his spouse are
on the outs and he has decided to communicate with us, to feed his needs.

BTW, I do not see his post as they are deleted immediately. I wish
people here would just ignore his ass so I would never have to see
anything from him. But some folks just like to argue and poke him.

YK

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 by: John Smith - Tue, 23 Nov 2021 23:38 UTC

On 23/11/2021 22:59, YK wrote:
> On 11/23/21 9:48 AM, Desperate Dan wrote:
<SNIP>
>> BTW you're responding to a post nearly 3 years old. The world has
>> moved on a lot in that time.
>
> Because he can't seem to get past the ClamAV possibilities in his mind.
> He is incapable of doing his own research and then trusting his gut
> whether or not something is good, bad, or acceptable. He has been asking
> the same damn question about ClamAV for going on 5 years. I think he is
> a shill, promoting the product. He has been given the same information
> and opinions about ClamAV during that time. Maybe he and his spouse are
> on the outs and he has decided to communicate with us, to feed his needs.
>
> BTW, I do not see his post as they are deleted immediately.  I wish
> people here would just ignore his ass so I would never have to see
> anything from him. But some folks just like to argue and poke him.

It's ClamXav he's been bothered about. Do YOU use it?

It looks really great! And free to try! https://www.clamxav.com/

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