In article <tub2io$ikop$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
<nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

>
> Unfortunately nospam doesn't get it that nobody cares about the SSID.

then there's no need to hide the ssid, by your own admission.

> Stupid people abound.

yes, i can see that.

> Takes a day or few for a Google public location database to be updated.
> But there are many of these location databases so each one may differ.

the two main ones are apple and google.

with the demise of windows phone, microsoft's database is not
particularly important, if it even exists anymore.

there are others, for different purposes.

>
> Agree that "an app" that consults the public database would be needed.

that's not how it works.

nospam wrote:

>> Takes a day or few for a Google public location database to be updated.
>> But there are many of these location databases so each one may differ.
>
> the two main ones are apple and google.

How do you query the Apple database without using Apple Maps, nospam?

>> Agree that "an app" that consults the public database would be needed.
>
> that's not how it works.

Funny, you just said that it worked that way and now you say it doesn't.

"use a weather app or similar that only checks for approximate location
(.e., does not try to use the gps). be sure cellular, bluetooth and gps
are disabled. there is no need to associate with the wifi network. it
just has to be within range."

How is "a weather app" suddenly _not_ "an app" nospam?

In article <tub5u9$ivql$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
<nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

>
> >> Agree that "an app" that consults the public database would be needed.
> >
> > that's not how it works.
>
> Funny, you just said that it worked that way and now you say it doesn't.

i didn't say any such thing.

On 2023-03-08 10:27, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Alan Browne wrote:
>
>> 10+ years ago I used hidden SSID's until I realized it's not useful.
>
> For those who aren't aware of the genesis of Alan Browne's statement that
> he used to hide his SSID's (for _security_ purposes), but no longer does...
> You can find a million web articles saying the same thing... a. People
> long ago thought hiding the SSID was useful for _security_...
> b. But what happened in the interim was better tools for discovery came out
> c. Such that it's no longer advised to hide the SSID for _security_.
>
> Worse, given most people are stupid so they don't even know what happens
> next, if you do hide your SSID, instantly you have to do more stuff for
> privacy (I'm not even going to get into that as most people are stupid).

You're just an asshole.