On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 13:06:58 +0100, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 29/03/2023 10:06, John Hill wrote:
>> On 28 Mar 2023 at 11:31:10 BST, "David Brooks" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 28/03/2023 10:09, John Hill wrote:
>>>> On 28 Mar 2023 at 09:53:02 BST, "David Brooks" <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 28/03/2023 09:42, John Hill wrote:
>>>>>> On 26 Mar 2023 at 08:23:19 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> X-posts eliminated
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wish you would'nt do that! It means stuff gets through my filters that would
>>>>>> otherwise be suppressed.
>>>>>
>>>>> What, exactly, are you trying to 'filter', John?
>>>>
>>>> If I said that publicly, people (trolls especially) might figure out how to
>>>> defeat the filters!
>>>
>>> What is the difference beween YOU and a so-called Troll?
>>
>> Basically, nothing.
>
> Just as I thought! :-)
>
>>> Are you, in some way, more important than other folk who wish to post in
>>> a Usenet group?
>>>
>>> (no disrespect intended!)
>>
>> None taken.
>
> I'm really pleased about that!
>
>>>> At least Joerg is only doing it inadvertently - though why, I can't imagine.
>>>
>>> Joerg is FULL of self-importance!
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately Usenapp can't filter on body content. Unlike MacSOUP, which
>>>> worked differently.
>>>
>>> Thank you for explaining that.
>>
>> I raise the question with Andre, and he explained the reason very clearly.
>
> Andre seems like a very fine fellow!
>
>> See also Joerg's post, which is also clear.
>>
>> It is curious, though, that whole messages were downloaded in the dial-up era
>> when bandwidth was very limited, whereas now we have broadband only headers
>> are downloaded. You'd think the trend would be the other way around!
>
> Everything is so very quick nowadays, so I don't understand why many of
> the folkhere are rather up-themselves.
> What difference does it make who posts whatever they wish about whatever
> they want? (Rhetorical question!)

They're geeks/programmers/network admins. Or in English, arrogant OCD cunts.

[snip]

>> I was watching the film "You've Got Mail" the other day and the dial-up
>> connect sound was very nostalgic.
>>
>> Would make an interesting ring-tone!
>
> I've got a very unusual ringtone.  It sounds like a telephone.

I have one like that too. Not many do so it's easy to tell when its my
phone.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"Orthodoxy means not thinking -- not needing to think. Orthodoxy is
unconsciousness" -- George Orwell

Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:

> [snip]
>
> >> I was watching the film "You've Got Mail" the other day and the dial-up
> >> connect sound was very nostalgic.
> >>
> >> Would make an interesting ring-tone!
> >
> > I've got a very unusual ringtone. It sounds like a telephone.
>
> I have one like that too. Not many do so it's easy to tell when its my
> phone.

Mine is 'CQ' in Morse code or, if known, the caller's nickname in Morse.

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On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 06:32:24 +0100, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

> Am 06.04.23 um 03:28 schrieb Commander Kinsey:
>> On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 14:27:47 +0100, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 26.03.23 um 14:18 schrieb Alan B:
>>>> Yes I do that but JL's post just had ucsm in the Newsgroups header so I was blissfully
>>>> unaware of the topic until he replied.
>>>
>>> Do you really have a plan?
>>> I did not add anything I just deleted all other NGs. That's what killed
>>> your filter. Your problem not mine.
>>
>> Oh look at all the children playing with their broken filters.
>
> Two weeks after the fact? Idiot.

Why would I respond instantaneously? Unlike you I have a life outside newsgroups. It gets replied to when I get round to it. What's the hurry? It wasn't a discussion about the current football game. Not time sensitive.

On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>
>> I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,
>> Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.
>
> Is this still true with modern Windows?

It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs). It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal. Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come back on until I press the power button.

On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:23:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.13git40wmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:

> On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>
>>> I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,
>>> Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.
>>
>> Is this still true with modern Windows?
>
> It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves
> me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs).
> It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've
> logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I
> turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal.
> Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually
> go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come
> back on until I press the power button.

macOS usually handles multiple monitors well, but when I use Screen Mirroring
over AirPlay it gets all confused. Really should not. It should "just work"
and it does not.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 23:13:28 +0100, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 05/04/2023 22:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:50:03 +0100, David Brooks
>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 28/03/2023 09:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
>>>> <JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there REALLY such a thing?
>>>>>
>>>>> This ought to be sufficient answer.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
>>>>
>>>> So they can only surveil those with inadequate AV protection? I can't
>>>> see how that would work.
>>>
>>>
>>> There's lots to read about here, Commander! :-D
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency
>>
>> 32000 spies. Why the fuck does the American population put up with that?
>
> You may learn more about what they do, here:-
>
> https://www.nsa.gov/About/Cybersecurity-Collaboration-Center/
>
> You may read about our UK "spies" here if you wish:-
>
> https://www.mi5.gov.uk/who-we-are

Where's a Guy Fawkes when you need one?

On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 18:25:12 +0100, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:
>
>> [snip]
>>
>> >> I was watching the film "You've Got Mail" the other day and the dial-up
>> >> connect sound was very nostalgic.
>> >>
>> >> Would make an interesting ring-tone!
>> >
>> > I've got a very unusual ringtone. It sounds like a telephone.
>>
>> I have one like that too. Not many do so it's easy to tell when its my
>> phone.
>
> Mine is 'CQ' in Morse code or, if known, the caller's nickname in Morse.

Can you understand Morse on hearing it? I didn't think many folk could.

On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 15:47:24 +0100, Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> wrote:

> [snip]
>
>>> I was watching the film "You've Got Mail" the other day and the dial-up
>>> connect sound was very nostalgic.
>>>
>>> Would make an interesting ring-tone!
>>
>> I've got a very unusual ringtone. It sounds like a telephone.
>
> I have one like that too. Not many do so it's easy to tell when its my
> phone.

When my dad heard mine he didn't recognise it as a phone, mind you it's an American bell, I couldn't find a recording of a proper British one. American phones sound underwater. There's two frequencies at once, not in tune with each other, it sounds depressed.

On 15/04/2023 19:37, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 23:13:28 +0100, David Brooks
> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> On 05/04/2023 22:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:50:03 +0100, David Brooks
>>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 28/03/2023 09:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
>>>>> <JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there REALLY such a thing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This ought to be sufficient answer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> So they can only surveil those with inadequate AV protection?  I can't
>>>>> see how that would work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There's lots to read about here, Commander! :-D
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency
>>>
>>> 32000 spies.  Why the fuck does the American population put up with
>>> that?
>>
>> You may learn more about what they do, here:-
>>
>> https://www.nsa.gov/About/Cybersecurity-Collaboration-Center/
>>
>> You may read about our UK "spies" here if you wish:-
>>
>> https://www.mi5.gov.uk/who-we-are
>
> Where's a Guy Fawkes when you need one?

I did consider joining MI5 when I retired early from the Royal Navy!

Sadly, Brooks doesn't have quite the same ring about it as 'Bond'!

On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 19:48:53 +0100, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 15/04/2023 19:37, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 23:13:28 +0100, David Brooks
>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/04/2023 22:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:50:03 +0100, David Brooks
>>>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 28/03/2023 09:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
>>>>>> <JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there REALLY such a thing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This ought to be sufficient answer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So they can only surveil those with inadequate AV protection? I can't
>>>>>> see how that would work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There's lots to read about here, Commander! :-D
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency
>>>>
>>>> 32000 spies. Why the fuck does the American population put up with
>>>> that?
>>>
>>> You may learn more about what they do, here:-
>>>
>>> https://www.nsa.gov/About/Cybersecurity-Collaboration-Center/
>>>
>>> You may read about our UK "spies" here if you wish:-
>>>
>>> https://www.mi5.gov.uk/who-we-are
>>
>> Where's a Guy Fawkes when you need one?
>
> I did consider joining MI5 when I retired early from the Royal Navy!
>
> Sadly, Brooks doesn't have quite the same ring about it as 'Bond'!

Surely you can have a nom de er... whatever that phrase is.

You were going to work for the government? Traitor!

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 20:06:07 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 16, 2023 at 11:31:25 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.13ia2npemvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>
>> On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:34:39 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 16, 2023 at 5:01:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.13hs07f9mvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:29:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:23:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.13git40wmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>> <op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,
>>>>>>>> Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is this still true with modern Windows?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves
>>>>>> me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs).
>>>>>> It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've
>>>>>> logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I
>>>>>> turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal.
>>>>>> Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually
>>>>>> go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come
>>>>>> back on until I press the power button.
>>>>>
>>>>> macOS usually handles multiple monitors well, but when I use Screen Mirroring
>>>>> over AirPlay it gets all confused. Really should not. It should "just work"
>>>>> and it does not.
>>>>
>>>> All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed
>>>> interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the
>>>> sake of it.
>>>
>>> There are times that is true. Sure.
>>
>> Many many times.
>
> It is a shame macOS seems to be heading the wrong direction with its UI.
> Though also adding things... so not all bad, but I wish they had their strong
> UI focus like they did in the past.

I see the same with Windows. Millions of people are downloading freeware to change the interface to an earlier version. I've got one called startallback.

On Apr 16, 2023 at 12:37:51 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.13id5dcpmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:

>>>>> All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed
>>>>> interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the
>>>>> sake of it.
>>>>
>>>> There are times that is true. Sure.
>>>
>>> Many many times.
>>
>> It is a shame macOS seems to be heading the wrong direction with its UI.
>> Though also adding things... so not all bad, but I wish they had their strong
>> UI focus like they did in the past.
>
> I see the same with Windows. Millions of people are downloading freeware to
> change the interface to an earlier version. I've got one called startallback.

I have used similar apps. Yeah... when they went to tiles they went insane.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 21:35:38 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 16, 2023 at 12:37:51 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.13id5dcpmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>
>>>>>> All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed
>>>>>> interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the
>>>>>> sake of it.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are times that is true. Sure.
>>>>
>>>> Many many times.
>>>
>>> It is a shame macOS seems to be heading the wrong direction with its UI.
>>> Though also adding things... so not all bad, but I wish they had their strong
>>> UI focus like they did in the past.
>>
>> I see the same with Windows. Millions of people are downloading freeware to
>> change the interface to an earlier version. I've got one called startallback.
>
> I have used similar apps. Yeah... when they went to tiles they went insane.

That was easy to turn off, the proper interface remained. What's worse is when they removed most functionality from the start menu. You won't understand as you probably launch from your dock, but I use the desktop for temporary placement of stuff, the taskbar for running programs, and the start menu to start programs. I don't understand people who run programs and start programs form the same place, it's very untidy and you can't clearly see what's what. They took stuff off the start menu like the most recently used system. That's the way I open almost every program.

On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:29:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:23:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.13git40wmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>
>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>
>>>> I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,
>>>> Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.
>>>
>>> Is this still true with modern Windows?
>>
>> It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves
>> me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs).
>> It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've
>> logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I
>> turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal.
>> Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually
>> go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come
>> back on until I press the power button.
>
> macOS usually handles multiple monitors well, but when I use Screen Mirroring
> over AirPlay it gets all confused. Really should not. It should "just work"
> and it does not.

All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the sake of it.

On 16/04/2023 13:02, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 19:48:53 +0100, David Brooks
> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> On 15/04/2023 19:37, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>> On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 23:13:28 +0100, David Brooks
>>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 05/04/2023 22:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:50:03 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28/03/2023 09:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
>>>>>>> <JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is there REALLY such a thing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This ought to be sufficient answer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So they can only surveil those with inadequate AV protection?  I
>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>> see how that would work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's lots to read about here, Commander! :-D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency
>>>>>
>>>>> 32000 spies.  Why the fuck does the American population put up with
>>>>> that?
>>>>
>>>> You may learn more about what they do, here:-
>>>>
>>>> https://www.nsa.gov/About/Cybersecurity-Collaboration-Center/
>>>>
>>>> You may read about our UK "spies" here if you wish:-
>>>>
>>>> https://www.mi5.gov.uk/who-we-are
>>>
>>> Where's a Guy Fawkes when you need one?
>>
>> I did consider joining MI5 when I retired early from the Royal Navy!
>>
>> Sadly, Brooks doesn't have quite the same ring about it as 'Bond'!
>
> Surely you can have a nom de er... whatever that phrase is.

To thyself be true!

> You were going to work for the government?  Traitor!

Instead, I very neary joined the POLICE!

Gosh!

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 13:40:31 +0100, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 16/04/2023 13:02, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 19:48:53 +0100, David Brooks
>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 15/04/2023 19:37, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 23:13:28 +0100, David Brooks
>>>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 05/04/2023 22:07, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:50:03 +0100, David Brooks
>>>>>> <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 28/03/2023 09:18, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 05:58:47 +0100, James McDougal
>>>>>>>> <JMD@address.is.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> malware-which-resides-in-my-computers-firmware-and-internal-electronics
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is there REALLY such a thing?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This ought to be sufficient answer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_SWAP.jpg
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_DEITYBOUNCE.jpg
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NSA_IRATEMONK.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So they can only surveil those with inadequate AV protection? I
>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>> see how that would work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's lots to read about here, Commander! :-D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 32000 spies. Why the fuck does the American population put up with
>>>>>> that?
>>>>>
>>>>> You may learn more about what they do, here:-
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.nsa.gov/About/Cybersecurity-Collaboration-Center/
>>>>>
>>>>> You may read about our UK "spies" here if you wish:-
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.mi5.gov.uk/who-we-are
>>>>
>>>> Where's a Guy Fawkes when you need one?
>>>
>>> I did consider joining MI5 when I retired early from the Royal Navy!
>>>
>>> Sadly, Brooks doesn't have quite the same ring about it as 'Bond'!
>>
>> Surely you can have a nom de er... whatever that phrase is.
>
> To thyself be true!

Que?

>> You were going to work for the government? Traitor!
>
> Instead, I very neary joined the POLICE!
>
> Gosh!

The police wouldn't know right from wrong if it hit them in the face.

On Apr 16, 2023 at 5:01:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.13hs07f9mvhs6z@ryzen.home>:

> On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:29:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:23:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.13git40wmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>
>>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,
>>>>> Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.
>>>>
>>>> Is this still true with modern Windows?
>>>
>>> It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves
>>> me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs).
>>> It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've
>>> logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I
>>> turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal.
>>> Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually
>>> go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come
>>> back on until I press the power button.
>>
>> macOS usually handles multiple monitors well, but when I use Screen Mirroring
>> over AirPlay it gets all confused. Really should not. It should "just work"
>> and it does not.
>
> All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed
> interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the
> sake of it.

There are times that is true. Sure.

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On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:34:39 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 16, 2023 at 5:01:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.13hs07f9mvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>
>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:29:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:23:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.13git40wmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,
>>>>>> Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this still true with modern Windows?
>>>>
>>>> It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves
>>>> me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs).
>>>> It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've
>>>> logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I
>>>> turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal.
>>>> Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually
>>>> go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come
>>>> back on until I press the power button.
>>>
>>> macOS usually handles multiple monitors well, but when I use Screen Mirroring
>>> over AirPlay it gets all confused. Really should not. It should "just work"
>>> and it does not.
>>
>> All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed
>> interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the
>> sake of it.
>
> There are times that is true. Sure.

Many many times.

On Apr 16, 2023 at 11:31:25 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.13ia2npemvhs6z@ryzen.home>:

> On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:34:39 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Apr 16, 2023 at 5:01:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.13hs07f9mvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 20:29:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:23:54 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.13git40wmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 01:41:54 +0100, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2023 at 4:47:21 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.12ycc7tvmvhs6z@ryzen.home>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a similar problem with monitors. If one powers up before the other,
>>>>>>> Windows decides they're in a different position on the virtual desktop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this still true with modern Windows?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's fine with normal monitors, but I have one on a USB to VGA adapter (saves
>>>>> me putting on a second graphics card, as the primary one only has 4 outputs).
>>>>> It's powered by software and doesn't kick in for a few seconds after I've
>>>>> logged in. Another is a cheap 40" HD TV. It doesn't go into standby when I
>>>>> turn off/sleep/lock the computer, because TVs expect an HDMI CEC signal.
>>>>> Monitors just go off when there's no signal. The TV does sometimes eventually
>>>>> go off with no signal (but takes an hour and often forgets), and doesn't come
>>>>> back on until I press the power button.
>>>>
>>>> macOS usually handles multiple monitors well, but when I use Screen Mirroring
>>>> over AirPlay it gets all confused. Really should not. It should "just work"
>>>> and it does not.
>>>
>>> All programmers are fuckwits. It's not just mistakes, it's stupidly designed
>>> interfaces. Then removing things which worked, in the name of redesign for the
>>> sake of it.
>>
>> There are times that is true. Sure.
>
> Many many times.

It is a shame macOS seems to be heading the wrong direction with its UI.
Though also adding things... so not all bad, but I wish they had their strong
UI focus like they did in the past.

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