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 by: snes1423 - Mon, 6 Nov 2023 02:21 UTC

Maybe Bolkonskij knows the answer to how much faster it is than system
7.1

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 by: Your Name - Mon, 6 Nov 2023 05:34 UTC

On 2023-11-06 02:21:49 +0000, snes1423 said:

> Maybe Bolkonskij knows the answer to how much faster it is than system
> 7.1

The IIci originally shipped with System 6.0.4, so it should run fine
and would be probably a bit faster than more gimmickry and bloat in
System 7.1.

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 by: Alessandro Cintoli - Mon, 6 Nov 2023 07:31 UTC

In article <ui9tti$c7dr$1@dont-email.me>, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
wrote:

> On 2023-11-06 02:21:49 +0000, snes1423 said:
>
> > Maybe Bolkonskij knows the answer to how much faster it is than system
> > 7.1
>
> The IIci originally shipped with System 6.0.4, so it should run fine
> and would be probably a bit faster than more gimmickry and bloat in
> System 7.1.

I actually used a IIci at work in 1992 with its original System 6.0.4.

It was blazing fast but it also had the high-end configuration with all
the hardware options built in.

I remember it very fondly because it was my first Mac.

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 by: Knezzen - Mon, 6 Nov 2023 13:28 UTC

In article <cintoli-0611230831560001@10.0.2.5>,
cintoli@gmail.com (Alessandro Cintoli) wrote:

> In article <ui9tti$c7dr$1@dont-email.me>, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On 2023-11-06 02:21:49 +0000, snes1423 said:
> >
> > > Maybe Bolkonskij knows the answer to how much faster it is than system
> > > 7.1
> >
> > The IIci originally shipped with System 6.0.4, so it should run fine
> > and would be probably a bit faster than more gimmickry and bloat in
> > System 7.1.
>
> I actually used a IIci at work in 1992 with its original System 6.0.4.
>
> It was blazing fast but it also had the high-end configuration with all
> the hardware options built in.
>
> I remember it very fondly because it was my first Mac.

It will surely run a bit faster, but there's a lot of software you're
unable to use. I feel like System 6 is quite crippled compared to say
7.1.

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 by: Alessandro Cintoli - Mon, 6 Nov 2023 20:54 UTC

In article <contact-9FDCC3.14280406112023@news.eternal-september.org>,
Knezzen <contact@unixfiles.org> wrote:

> > >
> > > The IIci originally shipped with System 6.0.4, so it should run fine
> > > and would be probably a bit faster than more gimmickry and bloat in
> > > System 7.1.
> >
> > I actually used a IIci at work in 1992 with its original System 6.0.4.
> >
> > It was blazing fast but it also had the high-end configuration with all
> > the hardware options built in.
> >
> > I remember it very fondly because it was my first Mac.
>
> It will surely run a bit faster, but there's a lot of software you're
> unable to use. I feel like System 6 is quite crippled compared to say
> 7.1.

Well, if you go to www.macintoshrepository.com you can find a wide range
of vintage software that will work with System 6.0.4. Indubitably,
upgrading to 7.1 (and up to 7.6.1 for that matter) should also help you
use some internet applications, like the one I am using now, Newswatcher
on a Mac OS 7.6.1 emulator, connected to my LAN.

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 by: Alessandro Cintoli - Mon, 6 Nov 2023 20:57 UTC

In article <cintoli-0611232154490001@10.0.2.5>, cintoli@gmail.com
(Alessandro Cintoli) wrote:

> In article <contact-9FDCC3.14280406112023@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Knezzen <contact@unixfiles.org> wrote:
>
>
> > > >
> > > > The IIci originally shipped with System 6.0.4, so it should run fine
> > > > and would be probably a bit faster than more gimmickry and bloat in
> > > > System 7.1.
> > >
> > > I actually used a IIci at work in 1992 with its original System 6.0.4.
> > >
> > > It was blazing fast but it also had the high-end configuration with all
> > > the hardware options built in.
> > >
> > > I remember it very fondly because it was my first Mac.
> >
> > It will surely run a bit faster, but there's a lot of software you're
> > unable to use. I feel like System 6 is quite crippled compared to say
> > 7.1.
>
Well, if you go to www.macintoshrepository.org, you can find a wide range
of vintage software that will work with System 6.0.4.

Indubitably, upgrading to 7.1 (and up to 7.6.1 for that matter) should
also help you
use some internet applications, like the one I am using now, Newswatcher
on a Mac OS 7.6.1 emulator, connected to my LAN. But I am afraid that the
overall speed and performance will suffer.

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 by: Your Name - Mon, 6 Nov 2023 23:38 UTC

On 2023-11-06 20:57:15 +0000, Alessandro Cintoli said:

> In article <cintoli-0611232154490001@10.0.2.5>, cintoli@gmail.com
> (Alessandro Cintoli) wrote:
>
>> In article <contact-9FDCC3.14280406112023@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> Knezzen <contact@unixfiles.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The IIci originally shipped with System 6.0.4, so it should run fine
>>>>> and would be probably a bit faster than more gimmickry and bloat in
>>>>> System 7.1.
>>>>
>>>> I actually used a IIci at work in 1992 with its original System 6.0.4.
>>>>
>>>> It was blazing fast but it also had the high-end configuration with all
>>>> the hardware options built in.
>>>>
>>>> I remember it very fondly because it was my first Mac.
>>>
>>> It will surely run a bit faster, but there's a lot of software you're
>>> unable to use. I feel like System 6 is quite crippled compared to say
>>> 7.1.
>>
> Well, if you go to www.macintoshrepository.org, you can find a wide range
> of vintage software that will work with System 6.0.4.

MacintoshGarden.org is a much better source for old software.

The lazy ass at MacintoshRepository.org set-up the website by leeched
*everything* (software archives, screenshots, descriptions, etc.) from
MacintoshGarden.org without asking or acknowledging it. He continues to
leech stuff as well.

> Indubitably, upgrading to 7.1 (and up to 7.6.1 for that matter) should
> also help you use some internet applications, like the one I am using
> now, Newswatcher on a Mac OS 7.6.1 emulator, connected to my LAN. But I
> am afraid that the overall speed and performance will suffer.

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 by: Alessandro Cintoli - Tue, 7 Nov 2023 00:57 UTC

In article <uibted$m0uq$1@dont-email.me>, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
wrote:

>
> MacintoshGarden.org is a much better source for old software.
>
> The lazy ass at MacintoshRepository.org set-up the website by leeched
> *everything* (software archives, screenshots, descriptions, etc.) from
> MacintoshGarden.org without asking or acknowledging it. He continues to
> leech stuff as well.

Thank you for pointing this out.

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 by: snes1423 - Wed, 8 Nov 2023 01:09 UTC

that and they got a paywall thats advertly painfull compared to getting
the same stuff that is on the garden for free

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 by: snes1423 - Wed, 8 Nov 2023 01:11 UTC

while sure i can see system 7.1 but if i were to make a computer/gaming
setup i would focus on a specific year like 1985 for the nes/macintosh
512k or 1991 for the Super Famicom/Quadra 650?

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 by: Sebastian P. - Wed, 15 Nov 2023 15:49 UTC

In article <cintoli-0711230157270001@10.0.2.5>,
cintoli@gmail.com (Alessandro Cintoli) wrote:

> In article <uibted$m0uq$1@dont-email.me>, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > MacintoshGarden.org is a much better source for old software.
> >
> > The lazy ass at MacintoshRepository.org set-up the website by leeched
> > *everything* (software archives, screenshots, descriptions, etc.) from
> > MacintoshGarden.org without asking or acknowledging it. He continues to
> > leech stuff as well.
>
> Thank you for pointing this out.

Yep, we should all spread the word. Lots of the screenshots,
descriptions, imaged disks and scanned manuals I've created to share for
free (!) on the Macintosh Garden now ended up on this guys page being
sold as part of his download flatrate. Not cool.

As for the original question, System 6 IS very fast on a IIci. I run
6.0.8 next to 7.1 on it and it is noticeably faster to respond and in
booting than System 7. That said, I agree with Knezzen about the
practical advantage of 7. Everything that has to do with networking is
so much more developed on System 7, there's much more software and
options. (and yes, naturally, more "bloat" but compare that to Mac OS 8
or even 9 ...)

System 6 is speedy and I love it for the ability to disable Multifinder
and run it with the old-style Finder. That makes it very compatible even
with old mid 80's Macintosh software. I've been working my way through
some 80's shareware collections and it's been fun discovering stuff from
"the wild days". Reading old e-Zines, trying out some crazy old
shareware, watching MacPaint images ... all while enjoying a cold beer
is awesome for relaxing and some nostalgia. :-)

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