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* LSSM Parsytec Supercluster progressDave McGuire
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From: mcgu...@lssmuseum.org (Dave McGuire)
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Subject: LSSM Parsytec Supercluster progress
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 21:19:57 -0400
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 by: Dave McGuire - Thu, 13 Jul 2023 01:19 UTC

After getting the 5V/250A power supply going, I did quite a lot of
net.archaeology to figure out ncm and get the C004s initialized.

I'm also able to exercise the whole toolchain from C source to
running a binary on one of the transputers, but only an individual one
in a TPM-4 board. After figuring out how to run ncm, I still need to
determine how to access the array that ncm created. Tonight I'll be
making another cable (to a BBK-S4) and will work on it some more tomorrow.

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, President/Curator
Large Scale Systems Museum
New Kensington, PA

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From: mcgu...@lssmuseum.org (Dave McGuire)
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Subject: Re: LSSM Parsytec Supercluster progress
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2023 20:59:11 -0400
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 by: Dave McGuire - Sun, 16 Jul 2023 00:59 UTC

On 7/12/23 21:19, Dave McGuire wrote:
>   After getting the 5V/250A power supply going, I did quite a lot of
> net.archaeology to figure out ncm and get the C004s initialized.
>
>   I'm also able to exercise the whole toolchain from C source to
> running a binary on one of the transputers, but only an individual one
> in a TPM-4 board.  After figuring out how to run ncm, I still need to
> determine how to access the array that ncm created.  Tonight I'll be
> making another cable (to a BBK-S4) and will work on it some more tomorrow.

Our activities with this fantastic machine haven't seemed to spark
much interest here, but I'll document them anyway. I've figured out, at
a basic level, some of the Parsytec-supplied tools used to create and
manage arrays within the Supercluster.

Within the Parix distribution, there's a program called mkdesc, which
takes a "shape" and dimensions (say, "8 4" or "32 1" for an 8x4 or 32x1
array) and some other stuff on the command line, and it generates a
description file which looks like this, for a 2x2 array:

$ mkdesc 2 2 parix.dsc ncm.dsc 2 2 OLDGC parsytec-fe 0 2
$ cat ncm.dsc
ROC 0 0 type: 7 ( Processor )
PROC 1 1 type: 7 ( Processor )
PROC 2 2 type: 7 ( Processor )
PROC 3 3 type: 7 ( Processor )
LINK 0 0, 0 0
LINK 0 1, 1 1
LINK 0 3, 2 3
LINK 1 0, 1 0
LINK 1 2, 3 2
LINK 1 3, 1 3
LINK 2 0, 3 0
LINK 2 1, 2 1
LINK 2 2, 2 2
LINK 3 1, 3 1
LINK 3 3, 3 3
$

Now I send that to the machine via saconfig like this:

$ iserver -sl 1 -sb saconfig.btl -s -m ncm.dsc

That creates a 2x2 array with these interconnects:

$ rspy -sl 1
# Part-rt Link0 Link1 Link2 Link3
0 T800-25 HOST ... 1-2 ...
1 T800-25 ... 2-1 0-2 4-3
2 T800-25 ... 1-1 3-2 ...
3 T800-25 4-0 ... 2-2 ...
4 T800-25 3-0 ... ... 1-3
$

The fifth processor (#0) is set up as the root, that's one of the
TPM-4 boards in the smaller card cage in the rack.

The saconfig program can also be used to generate a textual report of
the processor allocations and mappings:

$ iserver -sl 1 -sb saconfig.btl -f
Your user channel into SuperCluster: 1 (NCU channels 66, 67)
Your user channel into MultiCluster: 1 (NCU channel 66)

Free processors in System : total: 28
Cluster : 0 1 2
Free Processors : 0 12 16

Free special processor boards: 1100 1200 1300 1400

User allocation of processors:
User Id. : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Used Processors : 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0

P r o c e s s o r M a p p i n g

Your processors are mapped to the following System processors

0 -> 0 1 -> 1 2 -> 2 3 -> 3

Your processor number -> processor number in system

N C U c o n n e c t i o n t a b l e s :

N C U 0
0 <> 66

N C U 1
2 <> 64 5 <> 1 11 <> 3 12 <> 8 14 <> 6
$

I'm enjoying figuring all of this out, but I sure wish more
documentation had been preserved.

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, President/Curator
Large Scale Systems Museum
New Kensington, PA

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 by: Mike B. - Tue, 18 Jul 2023 09:21 UTC

Hi Dave

> I'm enjoying figuring all of this out, but I sure wish more

Great. Yes. Never get in touch with an Parsytec SuperCluster.

> documentation had been preserved.

Do you know the document ParsytecNetworkConfigurationManagerforMC2andSCV3.0.pdf?

The MC2/MC3 equipped with an NCU are very similar to a tiny SC. So maybe the MC2/MC3 parsytec docu may be also useful.

Kind regards
Mike

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From: mcgu...@lssmuseum.org (Dave McGuire)
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Subject: Re: LSSM Parsytec Supercluster progress
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 19:58:01 -0400
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 by: Dave McGuire - Tue, 18 Jul 2023 23:58 UTC

On 7/18/23 05:21, Mike B. wrote:
>> I'm enjoying figuring all of this out, but I sure wish more
>
> Great. Yes. Never get in touch with an Parsytec SuperCluster.

It's a really interesting machine in many ways. It has a graphics
board, a GDS (1, not 2), that I cannot find any information on, but
perhaps something will turn up.

>> documentation had been preserved.
>
> Do you know the document ParsytecNetworkConfigurationManagerforMC2andSCV3.0.pdf?
>
> The MC2/MC3 equipped with an NCU are very similar to a tiny SC. So maybe the MC2/MC3 parsytec docu may be also useful.

I just got a copy of that file today. I had most of the SC working a
couple of days ago, but this PDF is filling in a few gaps. Great stuff.
Now to find some real application (demo) software.

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, President/Curator
Large Scale Systems Museum
New Kensington, PA

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