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On 2021-12-13 at 7:14:26 pm GMT, "Ant" <Ant> wrote:

> https://developer.apple.com/news/releases/ and
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

I guess we'll find out soon enough what version of 'stable' we now have on
each platform. :P

On 2021-12-14, Alan Ralph <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> wrote:
> On 2021-12-13 at 7:14:26 pm GMT, "Ant" <Ant> wrote:
>
>> https://developer.apple.com/news/releases/ and
>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
>
> I guess we'll find out soon enough what version of 'stable' we now have on
> each platform. :P

DURRHURR... Boring troll.

macOS 12 (Monterey) has been remarkably stable and relatively
problem-free compared to prior releases for most people. It's been a
terrific release overall.

Cue the "I found this one bug, therefore macOS 12 is hOrRiBlE and
tErRiBlE!1!" trolls in 3... 2... 1...

*YAWN*

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On 2021-12-14 at 06:53:23 MST, "Alan Ralph" <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> wrote:

> On 2021-12-13 at 7:14:26 pm GMT, "Ant" <Ant> wrote:
>
>> https://developer.apple.com/news/releases/ and
>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
>
> I guess we'll find out soon enough what version of 'stable' we now have on
> each platform. :P

I updated my 2018 mini to 11.6.2 yesterday, and today I had the first hard
freeze I've had in a very long time. Yes yes, I know: it was just a
coincidence.

On 2021-12-15 01:39:25 +0000, Neill Massello said:
> On 2021-12-14 at 06:53:23 MST, "Alan Ralph" <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 2021-12-13 at 7:14:26 pm GMT, "Ant" <Ant> wrote:
>>>
>>> https://developer.apple.com/news/releases/ and
>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
>>
>> I guess we'll find out soon enough what version of 'stable' we now have on
>> each platform. :P
>
> I updated my 2018 mini to 11.6.2 yesterday, and today I had the first hard
> freeze I've had in a very long time. Yes yes, I know: it was just a
> coincidence.

One of my external hard drives also froze yesterday and required a
reboot, but I'm still using High Sierra.

On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 10:18:55 AM UTC-7, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2021-12-14, Alan Ralph <use...@alanralph.co.uk> wrote:
> > On 2021-12-13 at 7:14:26 pm GMT, "Ant" <Ant> wrote:
> >
> >> https://developer.apple.com/news/releases/ and
> >> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
> >
> > I guess we'll find out soon enough what version of 'stable' we now have on
> > each platform. :P
> DURRHURR... Boring troll.
>
> macOS 12 (Monterey) has been remarkably stable and relatively
> problem-free compared to prior releases for most people. It's been a
> terrific release overall.
>
> Cue the "I found this one bug, therefore macOS 12 is hOrRiBlE and
> tErRiBlE!1!" trolls in 3... 2... 1...
>
> *YAWN*
>
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On 2021-12-14 19:05, Your Name wrote:
> On 2021-12-15 01:39:25 +0000, Neill Massello said:
>> On 2021-12-14 at 06:53:23 MST, "Alan Ralph" <usenet@alanralph.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>> On 2021-12-13 at 7:14:26 pm GMT, "Ant" <Ant> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://developer.apple.com/news/releases/ and
>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
>>>
>>> I guess we'll find out soon enough what version of 'stable' we now
>>> have on
>>> each platform. :P
>>
>> I updated my 2018 mini to 11.6.2 yesterday, and today I had the first
>> hard
>> freeze I've had in a very long time. Yes yes, I know: it was just a
>> coincidence.
>
> One of my external hard drives also froze yesterday and required a
> reboot, but I'm still using High Sierra.

I applied an upgrade yesterday and a tanker truck exploded in Haiti.

André

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Am 15.12.21 um 03:05 schrieb Your Name:
> On 2021-12-15 01:39:25 +0000, Neill Massello said:
>> On 2021-12-14 at 06:53:23 MST, "Alan Ralph" <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 2021-12-13 at 7:14:26 pm GMT, "Ant" <Ant> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://developer.apple.com/news/releases/ and
>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
>>>
>>> I guess we'll find out soon enough what version of 'stable' we now have on
>>> each platform. :P
>>
>> I updated my 2018 mini to 11.6.2 yesterday, and today I had the first hard
>> freeze I've had in a very long time. Yes yes, I know: it was just a
>> coincidence.
>
> One of my external hard drives also froze yesterday and required a
> reboot, but I'm still using High Sierra.

What do you want to tell us?

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Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote
> Your Name wrote
>> Neill Massello wrote
>>> Alan Ralph <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> wrote
>>>> Ant <Ant> wrote

>>>>> https://developer.apple.com/news/releases/ and
>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

>>>> I guess we'll find out soon enough what version
>>>> of 'stable' we now have on each platform. :P

>>> I updated my 2018 mini to 11.6.2 yesterday, and
>>> today I had the first hard freeze I've had in a very
>>> long time. Yes yes, I know: it was just a coincidence.
>> One of my external hard drives also froze yesterday
>> and required a reboot, but I'm still using High Sierra.
> What do you want to tell us?

That was a joke, Joyce.

In misc.phone.mobile.iphone Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
> https://developer.apple.com/news/releases/ and https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

Oops. I meant to say Apple, not macOS. :/
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On 2021-12-15 01:22, Ant wrote:
> In misc.phone.mobile.iphone Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
>> https://developer.apple.com/news/releases/ and https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
>
> Oops. I meant to say Apple, not macOS. :/

A man was in the hospital emergency room. He had 25 plastic toy horses
up his rectum.

Doctors reported him to be stable.

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On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 13:18:07 -0500, Alan Browne wrote:

> A man was in the hospital emergency room. He had 25 plastic toy horses
> up his rectum.
>
> Doctors reported him to be stable.

*Apple has never even once sufficiently tested _any_ iOS release.*

Google proved that to be a fact - where even Apple couldn't deny the facts.

Since Apple has _never_ even once tested any iOS release sufficiently...
Why would anyone expect Apple to _start_ testing iOS in iOS 15.x?

*Why is iOS 14 so bad?*
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/why-is-ios-14-so-bad/>
"We're nearly nine months on since iOS 14 was released,
and the bugs are still piling up."

*Apple iOS 15 Warnings Issued For All iPhone Users*
<https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2021/09/29/apple-iphone-warning-ios-15-update-problems-bugs-upgrade-13-pro-max>
"As millions of iPhone owners begin to upgrade, serious problems
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 03:32:06 -0000 (UTC), Andy Burnelli wrote:

> Google proved that to be a fact - where even Apple couldn't deny the facts.

Since my belief systems are based on facts, I should list the canonical reference that proves huge swaths of iOS code couldn't possibly ever have been tested by Apple (a proven fact which even Apple couldn't deny).

*A very deep dive into iOS Exploit chains found in the wild
<https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2019/08/a-very-deep-dive-into-ios-exploit.html>

Anyone who believes iOS 15 is tested sufficiently by Apple is ignorant of the facts, since the facts show Apple has _never_ tested huge parts of any iOS release ever shipped.

FACTS
*An astounding list of security vulnerabilities found in Apple software*
<https://www.zerodayinitiative.com/blog/2017/5/15/the-may-2017-apple-security-update-review>

*What the market for zero-day exploits tells us about our phones*
<https://onezero.medium.com/is-android-getting-safer-than-ios-4a2ca6f359d3>

*No, Android is not less secure than is iOS*
<https://www.pcworld.com/article/216733/android_is_not_less_secure_than_ios.html>

*No, Your iPhone Is Not More Secure Than Android*
<https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2021/03/16/iphone-12-pro-max-and-iphone-13-not-more-secure-than-google-and-samsung-android-warns-cyber-billionaire/>

*Stop sending us Apple bugs, we have enough already*
<https://www.cyberscoop.com/ios-zero-day-zerodium-high-supply/>

*Your iPhone's Data Isn't as Private as Apple makes you think it is*
<https://www.idropnews.com/news/your-iphone-data-isnt-as-private-as-you-think-it-is/165666/>

*How Can What Apple did Be Good for Privacy?*
<https://www.idropnews.com/news/it-turns-out-apple-wasnt-previously-scanning-icloud-photos-for-csam-only-icloud-mail/166129/>

On 2021-12-14 at 5:18:51 pm GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2021-12-14, Alan Ralph <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 2021-12-13 at 7:14:26 pm GMT, "Ant" <Ant> wrote:
>>
>>> https://developer.apple.com/news/releases/ and
>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
>>
>> I guess we'll find out soon enough what version of 'stable' we now have on
>> each platform. :P
>
> DURRHURR... Boring troll.
>
> macOS 12 (Monterey) has been remarkably stable and relatively
> problem-free compared to prior releases for most people. It's been a
> terrific release overall.
>
> Cue the "I found this one bug, therefore macOS 12 is hOrRiBlE and
> tErRiBlE!1!" trolls in 3... 2... 1...
>
> *YAWN*

FWIW, I wasn't trolling above. I got hit by the memory leak linked to the new
pointer customisation options under Accessibility, and that has been fixed
now.

In message <spf712$nn9$1@dont-email.me> Alan Ralph <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> wrote:
> On 2021-12-14 at 5:18:51 pm GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

>> On 2021-12-14, Alan Ralph <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 2021-12-13 at 7:14:26 pm GMT, "Ant" <Ant> wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://developer.apple.com/news/releases/ and
>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
>>>
>>> I guess we'll find out soon enough what version of 'stable' we now have on
>>> each platform. :P
>>
>> DURRHURR... Boring troll.
>>
>> macOS 12 (Monterey) has been remarkably stable and relatively
>> problem-free compared to prior releases for most people. It's been a
>> terrific release overall.
>>
>> Cue the "I found this one bug, therefore macOS 12 is hOrRiBlE and
>> tErRiBlE!1!" trolls in 3... 2... 1...
>>
>> *YAWN*

> FWIW, I wasn't trolling above. I got hit by the memory leak linked to the new
> pointer customisation options under Accessibility, and that has been fixed
> now.

First of all, the pointer customization in accessibility is not new.
Second of all, I always have that turned on, and the so-called memory
leak was not noticeable. I heard it was most a problem for Chrome (or was
it Firefox? Doesn't matter, I no longer use either of those browsers)
users. Anyway, it as not an issue on my 2015 MBP running Monterey or my
M1 mini running Monterey.

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On 2021-12-16 at 12:13:20 pm GMT, "Lewis" <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:

> In message <spf712$nn9$1@dont-email.me> Alan Ralph <usenet@alanralph.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> On 2021-12-14 at 5:18:51 pm GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>> On 2021-12-14, Alan Ralph <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> On 2021-12-13 at 7:14:26 pm GMT, "Ant" <Ant> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> https://developer.apple.com/news/releases/ and
>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
>>>>
>>>> I guess we'll find out soon enough what version of 'stable' we now have on
>>>> each platform. :P
>>>
>>> DURRHURR... Boring troll.
>>>
>>> macOS 12 (Monterey) has been remarkably stable and relatively
>>> problem-free compared to prior releases for most people. It's been a
>>> terrific release overall.
>>>
>>> Cue the "I found this one bug, therefore macOS 12 is hOrRiBlE and
>>> tErRiBlE!1!" trolls in 3... 2... 1...
>>>
>>> *YAWN*
>
>> FWIW, I wasn't trolling above. I got hit by the memory leak linked to the new
>> pointer customisation options under Accessibility, and that has been fixed
>> now.
>
> First of all, the pointer customization in accessibility is not new.
> Second of all, I always have that turned on, and the so-called memory
> leak was not noticeable. I heard it was most a problem for Chrome (or was
> it Firefox? Doesn't matter, I no longer use either of those browsers)
> users. Anyway, it as not an issue on my 2015 MBP running Monterey or my
> M1 mini running Monterey.

The ability to change the colour of the pointer was a new addition in
Monterey, and on 12.0.1 I was getting excessive memory usage in multiple apps
until I reverted to the default colour and size.

If you weren't affected, great for you, but I was and it was a bummer for me.

On 2021-12-16, Alan Ralph <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> wrote:
> On 2021-12-14 at 5:18:51 pm GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2021-12-14, Alan Ralph <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 2021-12-13 at 7:14:26 pm GMT, "Ant" <Ant> wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://developer.apple.com/news/releases/ and
>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
>>>
>>> I guess we'll find out soon enough what version of 'stable' we now
>>> have on each platform. :P
>>
>> DURRHURR... Boring troll.
>>
>> macOS 12 (Monterey) has been remarkably stable and relatively
>> problem-free compared to prior releases for most people. It's been a
>> terrific release overall.
>>
>> Cue the "I found this one bug, therefore macOS 12 is hOrRiBlE and
>> tErRiBlE!1!" trolls in 3... 2... 1...
>>
>> *YAWN*
>
> FWIW, I wasn't trolling above.

I mean... clearly you were trolling. You didn't mention any specific
problems. You just trolled. It's okay to admit it. Something pissed you
off and you trolled a post about updates. It is what it is.

> I got hit by the memory leak linked to the new pointer customisation
> options under Accessibility, and that has been fixed now.

That's nice to hear. I've never felt the need to colorize my cursor. A
quick shake is all that is needed to find it on a busy screen. But I'm
glad the option is there for others who want it.

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