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* Re: Apple Explains Why Users Should Give Up on Google Maps and WazeAndy Burnelli
`* Re: Apple Explains Why Users Should Give Up on Google Maps and Wazenospam
 +* Re: Apple Explains Why Users Should Give Up on Google Maps and WazeAndy Burnelli
 |+- Re: Apple Explains Why Users Should Give Up on Google Maps and Wazenospam
 |`* Re: Apple Explains Why Users Should Give Up on Google Maps and WazeSteve Carroll
 | `- Re: Apple Explains Why Users Should Give Up on Google Maps and WazeDiesel / Gremlin Kook
 `- Re: Apple Explains Why Users Should Give Up on Google Maps and WazeSTALKING_TARGET_47

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From: spa...@nospam.com (Andy Burnelli)
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Subject: Re: Apple Explains Why Users Should Give Up on Google Maps and Waze
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 by: Andy Burnelli - Sun, 26 Dec 2021 20:17 UTC

On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 14:59:33 -0500, nospam wrote:

> a google account or lack thereof has absolutely no effect on what can
> be done. zero. zip. nada.

And yet, the fact you _must_ tie every single one of your iOS app store apps
to an Apple account _does_ have a tremendous impact on what can be done.

> it is incredibly trivial to write an app that can track users, and a
> google id has zero relevance, not even to google.

How are they going to track users if we set our system wide on-the-phone
firewall (*which is privacy functionality _impossible_ on iOS*) to block it?

> here's a very simple example of what can be determined and is in no way
> complete:
> <https://www.howto-connect.com/wp-content/uploads/Google-Mobile-Apps-Ana
> lytics-Report.jpg>

What I find hilarious is how fantastically clueless this idiot Apple
apologist nospam is of how easy it is for Android to block those analytics.
<https://i.postimg.cc/KvCkLccr/firebase03.jpg>

Those are screenshots from my own phone testing that firebase can easily be
blocked if the user simply sets up his phone to block all app indexing.

The fact such privacy functionality is _impossible_ on iOS, is what nospam
seems to hate the most, as he's always claiming imaginary functionality for
iOS that never exists when you ask him to prove it with a single fact.
--
Steve might want to add to his extensive document of the huge differences in
privacy between iOS & Android that an Apple user has none of this available.

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 by: nospam - Sun, 26 Dec 2021 20:26 UTC

In article <sqail7$1okn$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<spam@nospam.com> wrote:

>
> > a google account or lack thereof has absolutely no effect on what can
> > be done. zero. zip. nada.
>
> And yet, the fact you _must_ tie every single one of your iOS app store apps
> to an Apple account _does_ have a tremendous impact on what can be done.

an apple id has zero effect.

> > it is incredibly trivial to write an app that can track users, and a
> > google id has zero relevance, not even to google.
>
> How are they going to track users if we set our system wide on-the-phone
> firewall

you don't know what to block, which means you can be tracked.

i explained some (but not all) of what needs to be done, which as
usual, you ignored because you don't understand any of it.

you're *way* over your head and sinking fast.

> (*which is privacy functionality _impossible_ on iOS*) to block it?

it's very possible.

why do you continue to demonstrate that you are incredibly clueless?

> > here's a very simple example of what can be determined and is in no way
> > complete:
> > <https://www.howto-connect.com/wp-content/uploads/Google-Mobile-Apps-Ana
> > lytics-Report.jpg>
>
> What I find hilarious is how fantastically clueless this idiot Apple
> apologist nospam is of how easy it is for Android to block those analytics.
> <https://i.postimg.cc/KvCkLccr/firebase03.jpg>

that doesn't do what you think it does.

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Subject: Re: Apple Explains Why Users Should Give Up on Google Maps and Waze
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 by: Andy Burnelli - Sun, 26 Dec 2021 23:14 UTC

On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 15:26:17 -0500, nospam wrote:

>> And yet, the fact you _must_ tie every single one of your iOS app store apps
>> to an Apple account _does_ have a tremendous impact on what can be done.
>
> an apple id has zero effect.

Why do you think Apple forces users to always log into the mother ship in
order to download & use even a single app from the Apple App store on any
specific Apple device (and yet Google can't)?

That kind of privacy from the mothership snooping is _impossible_ on iOS.

>> (*which is privacy functionality _impossible_ on iOS*) to block it?
>
> it's very possible.
>
> why do you continue to demonstrate that you are incredibly clueless?

And yet the fact is I provided plenty of URLs of free ad free useful privacy
& debugging app functionality on Android which is _impossible_ on iOS.

As always with you ignorant apologist bullshitters - you instantly failed
the simplest & easiest most direct test of a consummate bullshitter nospam.
*Just name one*

A simple three-word challenge of your entire belief system - and you fail.

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 by: nospam - Sun, 26 Dec 2021 23:55 UTC

In article <sqat0p$1u6i$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
<spam@nospam.com> wrote:

> >
> > why do you continue to demonstrate that you are incredibly clueless?
>
> And yet the fact is I provided plenty of things I do not understand

ftfy

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 by: Steve Carroll - Wed, 29 Dec 2021 00:02 UTC

On Sunday, December 26, 2021 at 4:14:39 PM UTC-7, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 15:26:17 -0500, nospam wrote:
>
> >> And yet, the fact you _must_ tie every single one of your iOS app store apps
> >> to an Apple account _does_ have a tremendous impact on what can be done.
> >
> > an apple id has zero effect.
> Why do you think Apple forces users to always log into the mother ship in
> order to download & use even a single app from the Apple App store on any
> specific Apple device (and yet Google can't)?
>
> That kind of privacy from the mothership snooping is _impossible_ on iOS.
> >> (*which is privacy functionality _impossible_ on iOS*) to block it?
> >
> > it's very possible.
> >
> > why do you continue to demonstrate that you are incredibly clueless?
> And yet the fact is I provided plenty of URLs of free ad free useful privacy
> & debugging app functionality on Android which is _impossible_ on iOS.
>
> As always with you ignorant apologist bullshitters - you instantly failed
> the simplest & easiest most direct test of a consummate bullshitter nospam.
> *Just name one*
>
> A simple three-word challenge of your entire belief system - and you fail.

You wishing for something does not make it true.

For the record, spending effort perhaps educating yourself isn't a waste.
Believing you know all and working to 'prove' others that it is true?
*That* is a waste. But Snit / Snot feels the need to mock the cult-like
herd of convenient friends. So be it.

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 by: STALKING_TARGET_47 - Wed, 29 Dec 2021 13:57 UTC

On Sunday, December 26, 2021 at 1:26:21 PM UTC-7, nospam wrote:
> In article <sqail7$1okn$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Andy Burnelli
> <sp...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > > a google account or lack thereof has absolutely no effect on what can
> > > be done. zero. zip. nada.
> >
> > And yet, the fact you _must_ tie every single one of your iOS app store apps
> > to an Apple account _does_ have a tremendous impact on what can be done.
> an apple id has zero effect.
> > > it is incredibly trivial to write an app that can track users, and a
> > > google id has zero relevance, not even to google.
> >
> > How are they going to track users if we set our system wide on-the-phone
> > firewall
> you don't know what to block, which means you can be tracked.
>
> i explained some (but not all) of what needs to be done, which as
> usual, you ignored because you don't understand any of it.
>
> you're *way* over your head and sinking fast.
> > (*which is privacy functionality _impossible_ on iOS*) to block it?
> it's very possible.
>
> why do you continue to demonstrate that you are incredibly clueless?
> > > here's a very simple example of what can be determined and is in no way
> > > complete:
> > > <https://www.howto-connect.com/wp-content/uploads/Google-Mobile-Apps-Ana
> > > lytics-Report.jpg>
> >
> > What I find hilarious is how fantastically clueless this idiot Apple
> > apologist nospam is of how easy it is for Android to block those analytics.
> > <https://i.postimg.cc/KvCkLccr/firebase03.jpg>
> that doesn't do what you think it does.

Do you have a high school diploma? I usually go argument by argument unless
someone has a habit of especially drastic trolling. With David, I already
understand what his method is, all he craves is attention and, regrettably,
he will do _anything_ to get it. His number one routine is to play 'victim'
but reality shows it's all of the group who are his marks. In David's case,
I, and a whole list of "hackers", had pointed to things David said and did,
he ignored the evidence. What David could not deny was people complaining
about them, which is how he ended up with his list, as anyone can see.

And you do, of course realize that it isn't impossible for David to be
doing this, or to have his uploaded consciousness doing it for him. Given
how repeatedly it is clear that David's signature is some distortion of
a quote Snit wrote which had been a thrashing on David for something he
did which was insane/false/etc... its truly a common expression of David's
deep rooted unease for having been so routinely destroyed. David is trying
again to smear Trend Micro.

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On Tuesday, December 28, 2021 at 5:02:53 PM UTC-7, Diesel / Gremlin Kook wrote:
> On Sunday, December 26, 2021 at 4:14:39 PM UTC-7, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> > On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 15:26:17 -0500, nospam wrote:
> >
> > >> And yet, the fact you _must_ tie every single one of your iOS app store apps
> > >> to an Apple account _does_ have a tremendous impact on what can be done.
> > >
> > > an apple id has zero effect.
> > Why do you think Apple forces users to always log into the mother ship in
> > order to download & use even a single app from the Apple App store on any
> > specific Apple device (and yet Google can't)?
> >
> > That kind of privacy from the mothership snooping is _impossible_ on iOS.
> > >> (*which is privacy functionality _impossible_ on iOS*) to block it?
> > >
> > > it's very possible.
> > >
> > > why do you continue to demonstrate that you are incredibly clueless?
> > And yet the fact is I provided plenty of URLs of free ad free useful privacy
> > & debugging app functionality on Android which is _impossible_ on iOS.
> >
> > As always with you ignorant apologist bullshitters - you instantly failed
> > the simplest & easiest most direct test of a consummate bullshitter nospam.
> > *Just name one*
> >
> > A simple three-word challenge of your entire belief system - and you fail.
> You wishing for something does not make it true.
>
> For the record, spending effort perhaps educating yourself isn't a waste.
> Believing you know all and working to 'prove' others that it is true?
> *That* is a waste. But Snit / Snot feels the need to mock the cult-like
> herd of convenient friends. So be it.
>
>
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> Narcissistic Bigot Steve Carroll

Until William 'The Shill' Poaster offers up his 'expert' Malwarebytes quick
fix for testing, there is no competition, just insane contentions. Real
discussion will be overwhelmed once the trolls overpopulate. That, and
there will repeatedly be a temper tantrum or more in an unmoderated ng.
The specifics of the bullshit aside, we've all seen who uncontrollably
gets enraged when he doesn't get his way. This is something beyond you.

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