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 by: nospam - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 19:23 UTC

In article <k7bo27FjgotU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> >
> > Maybe you've haven't seen the many nospam posts declaring Apple alone
> > decides what's wanted and what's needed on an iPhone, not the
> > customer.
>
> You are disingenuous and lying as always. What has _actually_ been said
> is that Apple knows better than you what their customers want. And
> that's true. Apple has a better idea of what does and doesn't sell well
> with their own customers than any troll on Usenet.

it's not just apple either. every company does that, to varying degrees
of success. to not focus on what potential customers want so is
foolish.

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 by: nospam - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 19:23 UTC

In article <xn0nzc6s18wetia001@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

> How often do new colors get introduced after the initial offering of
> the new model? I don't know the answer to this question and it's not a
> trick question.

that depends on the product, but generally mid-cycle.

> I think the main reason people are scoffing at the yellow iPhone is
> because Apple has released a new color six(?) months after the new
> model was released without making any actual improvements to the phone
> functionally.

apple has been doing that for several years.

> Releasing a new color for the device after the initial
> offering is clearly a marketing ploy to lift sales figures.

it's not a ploy. there is a *huge* sales spike in the holiday quarter
(although this past year, that was supply-constrained). the spring
quarter is generally slower, so they add another colour to smooth out
the peaks. nothing unusual about that and not unique to apple.

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 by: badgolferman - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 19:30 UTC

nospam wrote:

>In article <k7bo27FjgotU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> >
>> > Maybe you've haven't seen the many nospam posts declaring Apple
>>alone > decides what's wanted and what's needed on an iPhone, not
>>the > customer.
>>
>> You are disingenuous and lying as always. What has actually been
>>said is that Apple knows better than you what their customers
>>want. And that's true. Apple has a better idea of what does and
>>doesn't sell well with their own customers than any troll on
>>Usenet.
>
>it's not just apple either. every company does that, to varying
>degrees of success. to not focus on what potential customers want so
>is foolish.

Are you saying Apple *knew* the customer wanted yellow iPhones, or are
Apple telling the customer *this* is what you want?

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 by: nospam - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 20:18 UTC

In article <xn0nzc9u090jla1000@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Are you saying Apple *knew* the customer wanted yellow iPhones, or are
> Apple telling the customer *this* is what you want?

neither.

they choose colours for various products based on all sorts of factors.
some colours end up being more popular than others, which feeds back
into what colours they might introduce in the future.

the imac is available in yellow and the iphone 5c was available in
yellow a decade ago. apparently they sold good enough to offer the
iphone in yellow.

those who don't like yellow can choose another colour.

if the yellow iphone doesn't sell well (there are no guarantees it will
be popular) then the next iphone probably won't be in yellow.

on the other hand, it might be very popular. nobody but apple knows the
exact breakdown of each colour.

it ain't just apple:
<https://m-cdn.phonearena.com/images/phones/38016-xlarge/HTC-8X-2ad.jpg>

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 by: badgolferman - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 20:22 UTC

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <xn0nzc9u090jla1000@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Are you saying Apple *knew* the customer wanted yellow iPhones, or are
>> Apple telling the customer *this* is what you want?
>
> neither.
>
> they choose colours for various products based on all sorts of factors.
> some colours end up being more popular than others, which feeds back
> into what colours they might introduce in the future.
>
> the imac is available in yellow and the iphone 5c was available in
> yellow a decade ago. apparently they sold good enough to offer the
> iphone in yellow.
>
> those who don't like yellow can choose another colour.
>
> if the yellow iphone doesn't sell well (there are no guarantees it will
> be popular) then the next iphone probably won't be in yellow.
>
> on the other hand, it might be very popular. nobody but apple knows the
> exact breakdown of each colour.
>
> it ain't just apple:
> <https://m-cdn.phonearena.com/images/phones/38016-xlarge/HTC-8X-2ad.jpg>
>

“colour” ?

I thought you were in America. We don’t spell it that way. Where are you
anyway?

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 by: Jolly Roger - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 20:27 UTC

On 2023-03-14, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <xn0nzc9u090jla1000@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Are you saying Apple *knew* the customer wanted yellow iPhones, or
>>> are Apple telling the customer *this* is what you want?
>>
>> neither.
>>
>> they choose colours for various products based on all sorts of
>> factors. some colours end up being more popular than others, which
>> feeds back into what colours they might introduce in the future.
>>
>> the imac is available in yellow and the iphone 5c was available in
>> yellow a decade ago. apparently they sold good enough to offer the
>> iphone in yellow.
>>
>> those who don't like yellow can choose another colour.
>>
>> if the yellow iphone doesn't sell well (there are no guarantees it
>> will be popular) then the next iphone probably won't be in yellow.
>>
>> on the other hand, it might be very popular. nobody but apple knows
>> the exact breakdown of each colour.
>>
>> it ain't just apple:
>> <https://m-cdn.phonearena.com/images/phones/38016-xlarge/HTC-8X-2ad.jpg>
>
> “colour” ?
>
> I thought you were in America. We don’t spell it that way. Where are
> you anyway?

Irrelevant. You really have nothing constructive to add to the
conversation, do you? You completely ignore any reasonable discussion
about this. You're just here to troll.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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 by: nospam - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 20:52 UTC

In article <tuql19$g8f6$1@dont-email.me>, badgolferman
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

> ³colour² ?

that's the first you've noticed that?

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 by: Wilf - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 21:52 UTC

On 14/03/2023 at 20:22, badgolferman wrote:
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <xn0nzc9u090jla1000@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Are you saying Apple *knew* the customer wanted yellow iPhones, or are
>>> Apple telling the customer *this* is what you want?
>>
>> neither.
>>
>> they choose colours for various products based on all sorts of factors.
>> some colours end up being more popular than others, which feeds back
>> into what colours they might introduce in the future.
>>
>> the imac is available in yellow and the iphone 5c was available in
>> yellow a decade ago. apparently they sold good enough to offer the
>> iphone in yellow.
>>
>> those who don't like yellow can choose another colour.
>>
>> if the yellow iphone doesn't sell well (there are no guarantees it will
>> be popular) then the next iphone probably won't be in yellow.
>>
>> on the other hand, it might be very popular. nobody but apple knows the
>> exact breakdown of each colour.
>>
>> it ain't just apple:
>> <https://m-cdn.phonearena.com/images/phones/38016-xlarge/HTC-8X-2ad.jpg>
>>
>
> “colour” ?
>
> I thought you were in America. We don’t spell it that way. Where are you
> anyway?

Other countries exist and they sell iPhones there :)

--
Wilf

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 by: badgolferman - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 21:53 UTC

nospam wrote:

>In article <tuql19$g8f6$1@dont-email.me>, badgolferman
><REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ³colour² ?
>
>that's the first you've noticed that?

I thought you had just misspelled it once, but this time you misspelled
it many times...

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 by: Alan - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 22:20 UTC

On 2023-03-14 14:53, badgolferman wrote:
> nospam wrote:
>
>> In article <tuql19$g8f6$1@dont-email.me>, badgolferman
>> <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ³colour² ?
>>
>> that's the first you've noticed that?
>
> I thought you had just misspelled it once, but this time you misspelled
> it many times...

And this is the least bit important... ...how?

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 by: Alan - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 22:21 UTC

On 2023-03-14 12:30, badgolferman wrote:
> nospam wrote:
>
>> In article <k7bo27FjgotU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
>> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you've haven't seen the many nospam posts declaring Apple
>>> alone > decides what's wanted and what's needed on an iPhone, not
>>> the > customer.
>>>
>>> You are disingenuous and lying as always. What has actually been
>>> said is that Apple knows better than you what their customers
>>> want. And that's true. Apple has a better idea of what does and
>>> doesn't sell well with their own customers than any troll on
>>> Usenet.
>>
>> it's not just apple either. every company does that, to varying
>> degrees of success. to not focus on what potential customers want so
>> is foolish.
>
> Are you saying Apple *knew* the customer wanted yellow iPhones, or are
> Apple telling the customer *this* is what you want?

You seemed to be confused by whole concepts in the area of consumer
preferences and market research and functional versus asthetic preferences.

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 by: Alan - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 22:22 UTC

On 2023-03-14 13:52, nospam wrote:
> In article <tuql19$g8f6$1@dont-email.me>, badgolferman
> <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ³colour² ?
>
> that's the first you've noticed that?

It seems to me that you spell it correctly.

:-)

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 by: nospam - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 22:25 UTC

In article <xn0nzcdkq95o9ri000@reader443.eternal-september.org>,
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> >> ³colour² ?
> >
> >that's the first you've noticed that?
>
> I thought you had just misspelled it once, but this time you misspelled
> it many times...

because that's how i spell it.

what's odd is you only noticed it now.

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 by: Alan Browne - Tue, 14 Mar 2023 23:47 UTC

On 2023-03-14 18:20, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-03-14 14:53, badgolferman wrote:
>> nospam wrote:
>>
>>> In article <tuql19$g8f6$1@dont-email.me>, badgolferman
>>> <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ³colour² ?
>>>
>>> that's the first you've noticed that?
>>
>> I thought you had just misspelled it once, but this time you misspelled
>> it many times...
>
> And this is the least bit important... ...how?

He was running out of tangents ...

--
“Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
danger to American democracy.”
- J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
- Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
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 by: dan - Wed, 15 Mar 2023 00:18 UTC

On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 17:34:36 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote:

> How often do new colors get introduced after the initial offering of
> the new model? I don't know the answer to this question and it's not a
> trick question.

Whenever an iPhone has flagging sales, Apple releases a new bold color.
Only Apple knows why that's a very successful iPhone sales boost strategy.

> I think the main reason people are scoffing at the yellow iPhone is
> because Apple has released a new color six(?) months after the new
> model was released without making any actual improvements to the phone
> functionally.

It's nothing more than coat of paint which Apple knows will reinvigorate
iPhone sales until the USB-C iPhone is released to even greater fanfare.

> Releasing a new color for the device after the initial
> offering is clearly a marketing ploy to lift sales figures.

It must have something to do with the type of customer Apple appeals to.

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 by: Alan - Wed, 15 Mar 2023 00:21 UTC

On 2023-03-14 17:18, dan wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 17:34:36 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote:
>
>> How often do new colors get introduced after the initial offering of
>> the new model? I don't know the answer to this question and it's not a
>> trick question.
>
> Whenever an iPhone has flagging sales, Apple releases a new bold color.
> Only Apple knows why that's a very successful iPhone sales boost strategy.
>
>> I think the main reason people are scoffing at the yellow iPhone is
>> because Apple has released a new color six(?) months after the new
>> model was released without making any actual improvements to the phone
>> functionally.
>
> It's nothing more than coat of paint which Apple knows will reinvigorate
> iPhone sales until the USB-C iPhone is released to even greater fanfare.
>
>> Releasing a new color for the device after the initial
>> offering is clearly a marketing ploy to lift sales figures.
>
> It must have something to do with the type of customer Apple appeals to.

Sneering is such a great pose.

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 by: mike - Wed, 15 Mar 2023 00:42 UTC

On 15-03-2023 00:53 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> it's not a ploy. there is a *huge* sales spike in the holiday quarter
> (although this past year, that was supply-constrained). the spring
> quarter is generally slower, so they add another colour to smooth out
> the peaks. nothing unusual about that and not unique to apple.

In other words that yellow iPhone is not only needed but also it's wanted.

It's that pesky crazy hardware like sd cards which nobody needs nor wants.

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 by: Alan - Wed, 15 Mar 2023 00:44 UTC

On 2023-03-14 17:42, mike wrote:
> On 15-03-2023 00:53 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> it's not a ploy. there is a *huge* sales spike in the holiday quarter
>> (although this past year, that was supply-constrained). the spring
>> quarter is generally slower, so they add another colour to smooth out
>> the peaks. nothing unusual about that and not unique to apple.
>
> In other words that yellow iPhone is not only needed but also it's wanted.
>
> It's that pesky crazy hardware like sd cards which nobody needs nor wants.

You're discovering the difference between aesthetics and utility choices
in consumer products.

Congratulations!

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 by: mike - Wed, 15 Mar 2023 00:49 UTC

On 14-03-2023 13:09 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> You are disingenuous and lying as always. What has _actually_ been said
> is that Apple knows better than you what their customers want. And
> that's true. Apple has a better idea of what does and doesn't sell well
> with their own customers than any troll on Usenet.

You are completely right that nobody needs USB-C nor does anyone want USB-C
because what they really need is lightning & that's what they really want.

Same with those cumbersome sd cards which nobody needs and nobody wants.
Same with those loud FM radios which nobody needs and nobody wants.
The list goes on, as with those 3.5mm connections nobody needs nor wants.

What everyone needs is a yellow iPhone instead of useful things like those.

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 by: Nil - Wed, 15 Mar 2023 00:58 UTC

On 14 Mar 2023, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in
misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system:

>> It's about religious fanatics on only Apple ng's who act the way they
>> do.
>
> Lies and weak trolls are all you have, shithead. It's sad.

The whole needs and wants thing is a farce perpetrated by nospam who says
what you need and what you want is bright colors but not anything useful.

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 by: nospam - Wed, 15 Mar 2023 01:05 UTC

In article <tur57n$j52k$1@dont-email.me>, Nil
<rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:

> The whole needs and wants thing is a farce perpetrated by nospam who says
> what you need and what you want is bright colors but not anything useful.

nobody said that, liar.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Wed, 15 Mar 2023 01:39 UTC

On 2023-03-15, mike <this@address.is.invalid> wrote:
> On 14-03-2023 13:09 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> You are disingenuous and lying as always. What has _actually_ been
>> said is that Apple knows better than you what their customers want.
>> And that's true. Apple has a better idea of what does and doesn't
>> sell well with their own customers than any troll on Usenet.
>
> nobody needs USB-C

This has nothing to do with USB-C. God you are desperate. LOL... : D

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 by: Alan Browne - Wed, 15 Mar 2023 14:16 UTC

On 2023-03-14 20:49, mike wrote:
> On 14-03-2023 13:09 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> You are disingenuous and lying as always. What has _actually_ been said
>> is that Apple knows better than you what their customers want. And
>> that's true. Apple has a better idea of what does and doesn't sell well
>> with their own customers than any troll on Usenet.
>
> You are completely right that nobody needs USB-C nor does anyone want USB-C
> because what they really need is lightning & that's what they really want.
>
> Same with those cumbersome sd cards which nobody needs and nobody wants.

What percentage of people with Android phones that have SD cards
actually use that feature?

> Same with those loud FM radios which nobody needs and nobody wants.

Is this even an issue? I hate FM - sound quality may be way above AM,
but it's still audio constrained.

> The list goes on, as with those 3.5mm connections nobody needs nor wants.

Yeah, technology from the 19th century is really needed these days.

>
> What everyone needs is a yellow iPhone instead of useful things like those.

This attention to the yellow iPhone has certainly triggered a lot of
people who I suspect have deeper issues that need attention...

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- Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
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 by: Alan Browne - Wed, 15 Mar 2023 14:20 UTC

On 2023-03-14 20:58, Nil wrote:
> On 14 Mar 2023, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in
> misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system:
>
>>> It's about religious fanatics on only Apple ng's who act the way they
>>> do.
>>
>> Lies and weak trolls are all you have, shithead. It's sad.
>
> The whole needs and wants thing is a farce perpetrated by nospam who says
> what you need and what you want is bright colors but not anything useful.

Distortion of what he said, which was (essentially): Apple decide what
they believe there is a market for (or that they can create) and go for
it. Further, of course, they advertise that. As they should.

It's called "running a business".

"Apple is ungodly well managed."
-Charlie Munger.

That this "yellow" thing has triggered the Apple haters is quite an
indictment of ... Apple haters.

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 by: nospam - Wed, 15 Mar 2023 15:02 UTC

In article <urkQL.1048850$gGD7.140485@fx11.iad>, Alan Browne
<bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

> > Same with those cumbersome sd cards which nobody needs and nobody wants.
>
> What percentage of people with Android phones that have SD cards
> actually use that feature?

it's actually very low.

adding a feature that few people use only to add to a checklist is
stupid.

plus of those who do use cards, they almost always use only one card
that they never remove (and can't because it's adopted). worse, since
sd cards are slower than main memory, they are *reducing* the overall
performance of their phone. some might call it 'throttling'.

> > Same with those loud FM radios which nobody needs and nobody wants.
>
> Is this even an issue?

no.

again, adding a feature that few people use only to add to a checklist
is stupid.

it also requires wired headphones, making it impractical in most
situations.

those who do want to listen to radio stations can use an app to stream
nearly any radio station anywhere on the planet, and not just nearby fm
stations, but also am radio, police, etc., and without needing wired
headphones.

> I hate FM - sound quality may be way above AM,
> but it's still audio constrained.

*way* too many ads and mindless chatter from djs. it's noise.

these days, people stream content (e.g., spotify, apple music) and/or
listen to whatever is stored on their device, where they can choose
exactly what *they* want to listen to and without being bombarded by
unwanted noise every few minutes.

> > What everyone needs is a yellow iPhone instead of useful things like those.
>
> This attention to the yellow iPhone has certainly triggered a lot of
> people who I suspect have deeper issues that need attention...

it sure has.

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