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* Androidrek2 hispagatos
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+* Re: Androidissdr
|`* Re: AndroidEli the Bearded
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Android
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 13:53:03 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: rek2 hispagatos - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 13:53 UTC

Hello,
Any recomendation for Android usenet/nttp clients? for text only.
If possible that does not truck you.. I was looking on fdroid was not
able to find anything so far. :(

--
{gemini,https}://{,rek2.}hispagatos.org
https://hispagatos.space/@rek2

Re: Android

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 by: Michael BΓ€uerle - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 14:43 UTC

rek2 hispagatos wrote:
>
> Hello,
> Any recomendation for Android usenet/nttp clients? for text only.
> If possible that does not truck you.. I was looking on fdroid was not
> able to find anything so far. :(

You can search for:
- PhoNews
- Piao Hong
- Groundhog

But expect some unmaintained and/or broken piece of software.

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From: rek...@hispagatos.org.invalid (rek2 hispagatos)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Android
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 18:51:27 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: Hispagatos
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 by: rek2 hispagatos - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 18:51 UTC

On 2023-07-14, Michael BΓ€uerle <michael.baeuerle@stz-e.de> wrote:
> rek2 hispagatos wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> Any recomendation for Android usenet/nttp clients? for text only.
>> If possible that does not truck you.. I was looking on fdroid was not
>> able to find anything so far. :(
>
> You can search for:
> - PhoNews
> - Piao Hong
> - Groundhog
>
> But expect some unmaintained and/or broken piece of software.

Thanks, I will try to look for those, and go from there.

--
{gemini,https}://{,rek2.}hispagatos.org
https://hispagatos.space/@rek2

Re: Android

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 by: issdr - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 19:15 UTC

rek2 hispagatos wrote:

> Hello,
> Any recomendation for Android usenet/nttp clients? for text only.
> If possible that does not truck you.. I was looking on fdroid was not
> able to find anything so far. :(

slrn? do you have a shell account somewhere? or an always on device? (a
linux based nas, or a RPi). put a ssh client on your phone... i suggest
using screen when you connect, it circumvents several issues you might
have.

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From: *...@eli.users.panix.com (Eli the Bearded)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Android
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 19:58:52 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: Some absurd concept
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 by: Eli the Bearded - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 19:58 UTC

In news.software.readers, issdr <p_u_n_k_i_n_d@yahoo.it> wrote:
> rek2 hispagatos wrote:
> > Any recomendation for Android usenet/nttp clients? for text only.

Install Termux from Fdroid, compile and run newsreader of choice. Or
maybe it's already in the Termux package repos.

I compiled trn4 from source on my phone, and the hardest part was sh is
not in /bin/, so lots of build scripts needed fixing.

But, much as I love trn, it's old and has UTF-8 issues unless you work
really hard. I did it as proof-of-concept rather than to actually use
regularly.

OTOH, trn works really well for reading news in terminals that are
narrower than 80 columns or otherwise quirky. I find myself able to cope
with Usenet in 57x15 on a 3" diagonal screen where half the display
(hence that "15") is lost to the keyboard.

> slrn? do you have a shell account somewhere? or an always on device?
> (a linux based nas, or a RPi). put a ssh client on your phone... i
> suggest using screen when you connect, it circumvents several issues
> you might have.

That's basically my method. ssh from Termux to shell host with trn. But
I find tmux much better than screen.

Elijah
------
Termux has features to add special keys like ESC and CTRL

Re: Android

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 by: Ralph Fox - Fri, 14 Jul 2023 21:00 UTC

On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 13:53:03 -0000 (UTC), rek2 hispagatos wrote:

> Hello,
> Any recomendation for Android usenet/nttp clients? for text only.

I am using PiaoHong's NewsGroup Reader
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.newsgroup>

> I was looking on fdroid was not
> able to find anything so far. :(

Free Usenet/NNTP clients include:

* PiaoHong's NewsGroup Reader <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.newsgroup>
* PhoNews <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.cmg.android.phonews>
* Usenet Reader for Android DEMO <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ken.android.nntpreader>

Paid Usenet/NNTP clients include:

* Usenet NewsReader <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.NewsReader>
* NewsTap <https://apps.apple.com/nz/app/newstap-usenet-newsreader/id292410356>
* Usenet Reader for Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ken.android.nntpreader.pro>
* PhoNews Pro Newsgroup Client <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cmgapps.android.phonewspro>

F-Droid only carries open-source applications.
Was open-source also one of your conditions?

--
Kind regards
Ralph
🦊

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Eli the Bearded wrote:

>> slrn? do you have a shell account somewhere? or an always on device?
>> (a linux based nas, or a RPi). put a ssh client on your phone... i
>> suggest using screen when you connect, it circumvents several issues
>> you might have.
>
> That's basically my method. ssh from Termux to shell host with trn. But
> I find tmux much better than screen.

i'll give tmux a shot, thanks.

actually i connect from ios, don't know much about ssh clients on
android. i saw JuiceSSH, seems nice, and it features mosh compatibility,
and mosh is way cool

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 by: Eli the Bearded - Sat, 15 Jul 2023 03:49 UTC

In news.software.readers, issdr <p_u_n_k_i_n_d@yahoo.it> wrote:
> Eli the Bearded wrote:
> > That's basically my method. ssh from Termux to shell host with trn. But
> > I find tmux much better than screen.
> i'll give tmux a shot, thanks.
> actually i connect from ios, don't know much about ssh clients on
> android.

Termux is a complete Linux shell. Busybox or bash. Compilers like gcc,
flex, bison, interpreters like python, ruby, perl. You can run ssh just
fine from Termux.

You can run tmux on Termux, ssh to somewhere else in one of the
terminals, and then run tmux again at the far end. (But you may not
want to run it locally. Termux can run multiple sessions on it's own.)

I gather people with Android tablets run X11 from Termux. I have not
tried that.

Elijah
------
runs lynx and vi locally via Termux on a cellphone

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 by: issdr - Sat, 15 Jul 2023 08:20 UTC

Eli the Bearded wrote:

> I gather people with Android tablets run X11 from Termux. I have not
> tried that.

sounds amazing, but no way i can get anything even close without
jailbraking... it doesn't seem to support mosh though, but maybe that's
no biggie when you can compile/run so much locally.

how does it handle going on the bg while on a ssh session? my former
apps on iphone would all lose connection.

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 by: Eli the Bearded - Sun, 16 Jul 2023 18:24 UTC

In news.software.readers, issdr <p_u_n_k_i_n_d@yahoo.it> wrote:
> Eli the Bearded wrote:
> > I gather people with Android tablets run X11 from Termux. I have not
> > tried that.
> how does it handle going on the bg while on a ssh session? my former
> apps on iphone would all lose connection.

This varies device to device with how much control over background usage
is allowed. The aptly named "Don't Kill My App" website at dontkillmyapp.com
has device by device ratings and directions for disabling background app
killing.

My current device is a two thumbs down one, with terrible out-of-the-box
settings (very aggressive app killing) but easy access to change those
settings (which I have done).

So know ssh sessions are at the whims of network connectivity instead of
app foreground / background actions. Switching from cellular to wifi or
back will drop the connections, since the phone doesn't keep both going
at once.

comp.mobile.android or XDA forums (forum.xda-developers.com) is probably
better for more detailed answers.

Elijah
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Eli the Bearded wrote:

> So know ssh sessions are at the whims of network connectivity instead of
> app foreground / background actions. Switching from cellular to wifi or
> back will drop the connections, since the phone doesn't keep both going
> at once.

oh boy, i know that. that's where mosh enters: i seemlessly pass from
wi-fi to 5g and back without losing connection. that works on pcs too:
my linux terminal is instantly resumed with its ssh connection on when
exiting windows' sleep state

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On 2023-07-17, issdr <p_u_n_k_i_n_d@yahoo.it> wrote:

> oh boy, i know that. that's where mosh enters: i seemlessly pass from
> wi-fi to 5g and back without losing connection. that works on pcs too:

I often have unstable net connection and mosh is a lifesaver. Before
mosh I used autossh; it would reconnect but take longer and not give
the visual feedback.

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