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* Problem with RiscOS v5.28 upgradeR W Twort
+- Re: Problem with RiscOS v5.28 upgradeStuart
`* Re: Problem with RiscOS v5.28 upgradeTheo
 `* Re: Problem with RiscOS v5.28 upgradeDavid Pitt
  +* Re: Problem with RiscOS v5.28 upgradeR W Twort
  |`- Re: Problem with RiscOS v5.28 upgradeChris Evans (CJE/4D)
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From: rwt...@birailz.plus.com (R W Twort)
Subject: Problem with RiscOS v5.28 upgrade
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 by: R W Twort - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 15:17 UTC

Hi,
I've finally got around to up-dating my Iyonix, following the instructions
I have updated !SparkFS from v1.43 to v1.46, updated the Harddisc using
the InSituBootUpdate option, then rebooted and everything appears to be OK.

Then i've reflashed the ROM with !ROM528 so far so good, i've then
rebooted the machine, now I get a warning message [Message from Desktop]
saying [Machine startup has not completed successfully: 'sysctl: unknown
oid 'net.inet.tcp.rfc1644"] with three options [Floppy boot], [Cancel],
and [Retry].
floppy boot isn't an option, retry just repeats the process, clicking on
cancell allows Boot to complete, which gives me a workable machine, but
then this now happens everytime I boot Up.
Has anyone come across this before, is there a solution, how can I stop
this message popping up whenever the machine is re-booted.?

--
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Re: Problem with RiscOS v5.28 upgrade

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 by: Stuart - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 16:05 UTC

In article <594d80f66drwt@birailz.plus.com>,
R W Twort <rwt@birailz.plus.com> wrote:
> Has anyone come across this before, is there a solution, how can I stop
> this message popping up whenever the machine is re-booted.?

Oh dear. I was just about to upgrade my Iyonix from 5.22 to 5.28 and had
asked for some instructions (awaiting reply) in comp.sys.acorn.hardware. I
think I'll hold fire for the moment, although I was only thinking of a
Softload to start with.

--
Stuart Winsor

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 by: Theo - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 16:13 UTC

R W Twort <rwt@birailz.plus.com> wrote:
> Then i've reflashed the ROM with !ROM528 so far so good, i've then
> rebooted the machine, now I get a warning message [Message from Desktop]
> saying [Machine startup has not completed successfully: 'sysctl: unknown
> oid 'net.inet.tcp.rfc1644"] with three options [Floppy boot], [Cancel],
> and [Retry].

The rfc1644 option (which was a security risk) has been removed from the
Internet stack. Somewhere in !Boot.Choices you're likely to have Obey file
that does something like 'sysctl net.inet.tcp.rfc1644=1' - you should
comment out this line.

I'd use a tool like Steve Fryatt's 'Locate' to search through your !Boot
looking for files containing the string 'rfc1644' and you'll find it.

THeo

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 by: David Pitt - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 16:41 UTC

Theo, on 17 Jul, wrote:

> R W Twort <rwt@birailz.plus.com> wrote:
> > Then i've reflashed the ROM with !ROM528 so far so good, i've then
> > rebooted the machine, now I get a warning message [Message from Desktop]
> > saying [Machine startup has not completed successfully: 'sysctl: unknown
> > oid 'net.inet.tcp.rfc1644"] with three options [Floppy boot], [Cancel],
> > and [Retry].
>
> The rfc1644 option (which was a security risk) has been removed from the
> Internet stack. Somewhere in !Boot.Choices you're likely to have Obey
> file that does something like 'sysctl net.inet.tcp.rfc1644=1' - you should
> comment out this line.
>
> I'd use a tool like Steve Fryatt's 'Locate' to search through your !Boot
> looking for files containing the string 'rfc1644' and you'll find it.

From an Iyonix backup, this file :-

!Boot.Choices.Internet.User

contains these, now obsolete, two lines:-

sysctl -ew net.inet.tcp.rfc1644=0 { > null: }
*sysctl -ew net.inet.tcp.mssdflt=1500

As already said, comment them out or delete them.

A little light reading :-

https://www.riscosopen.org/wiki/documentation/show/RISC%20OS%20Upgrade

The RISC OS Open forum is now the "go to" place for support.

https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/

HTH.

--
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From: rwt...@birailz.plus.com (R W Twort)
Subject: Re: Problem with RiscOS v5.28 upgrade
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 by: R W Twort - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 21:31 UTC

In article <mpro.qweecc005jsm403ql.news2@pittdj.co.uk>,
David Pitt <news2@pittdj.co.uk> wrote:
> Theo, on 17 Jul, wrote:

> > R W Twort <rwt@birailz.plus.com> wrote:
> > > Then i've reflashed the ROM with !ROM528 so far so good, i've then
> > > rebooted the machine, now I get a warning message [Message from Desktop]
> > > saying [Machine startup has not completed successfully: 'sysctl: unknown
> > > oid 'net.inet.tcp.rfc1644"] with three options [Floppy boot], [Cancel],
> > > and [Retry].
> >
> > The rfc1644 option (which was a security risk) has been removed from the
> > Internet stack. Somewhere in !Boot.Choices you're likely to have Obey
> > file that does something like 'sysctl net.inet.tcp.rfc1644=1' - you should
> > comment out this line.
> >
> > I'd use a tool like Steve Fryatt's 'Locate' to search through your !Boot
> > looking for files containing the string 'rfc1644' and you'll find it.

> From an Iyonix backup, this file :-

> !Boot.Choices.Internet.User

> contains these, now obsolete, two lines:-

> sysctl -ew net.inet.tcp.rfc1644=0 { > null: }
> *sysctl -ew net.inet.tcp.mssdflt=1500

> As already said, comment them out or delete them.

> A little light reading :-

> https://www.riscosopen.org/wiki/documentation/show/RISC%20OS%20Upgrade

> The RISC OS Open forum is now the "go to" place for support.

> https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/

> HTH.

Thankyou Theo, and David for pointing me in the right direction, problem
solved, it was indeed a line in the !Boot.Choices.Inter.User file, in
this case just the one line.
Commenting out the line "sysctl -ew net.inet.tcp.rfc1644=0" did the trick
I no longer get that warning message when re-booting the machine.

Many thanks for your help.

--
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____________________________________________________

Smash forehead against keyboard to continue...

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 by: Stuart - Tue, 20 Jul 2021 10:13 UTC

In article <mpro.qweecc005jsm403ql.news2@pittdj.co.uk>,
David Pitt <news2@pittdj.co.uk> wrote:

> From an Iyonix backup, this file :-

> !Boot.Choices.Internet.User

> contains these, now obsolete, two lines:-

> sysctl -ew net.inet.tcp.rfc1644=0 { > null: }
> *sysctl -ew net.inet.tcp.mssdflt=1500

> As already said, comment them out or delete them.

I am very glad I saw these postings otherwise it would have got me worried.

I went straight from 5.24 softload to 5.28 softload and all seems to be
working nicely.

I was considering flashing and bought a UPS to ensure there was no
catastrophic loss of power during the process. However, I note on ROOL
site that they recommend the softload as too many flashes can kill the
flash ROM and it does mean that I can always get the machine up if the
softloading ever goes amiss.

--
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 by: Chris Evans (CJE/4D) - Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:53 UTC

In article <594da32369rwt@birailz.plus.com>, R W Twort
<URL:mailto:rwt@birailz.plus.com> wrote:
> In article <mpro.qweecc005jsm403ql.news2@pittdj.co.uk>,
> David Pitt <news2@pittdj.co.uk> wrote:
> > Theo, on 17 Jul, wrote:
>
> > > R W Twort <rwt@birailz.plus.com> wrote:
> > > > Then i've reflashed the ROM with !ROM528 so far so good, i've then
> > > > rebooted the machine, now I get a warning message [Message from Desktop]
> > > > saying [Machine startup has not completed successfully: 'sysctl: unknown
> > > > oid 'net.inet.tcp.rfc1644"] with three options [Floppy boot], [Cancel],
> > > > and [Retry].
> > >
> > > The rfc1644 option (which was a security risk) has been removed from the
> > > Internet stack. Somewhere in !Boot.Choices you're likely to have Obey
> > > file that does something like 'sysctl net.inet.tcp.rfc1644=1' - you should
> > > comment out this line.
> > >
> > > I'd use a tool like Steve Fryatt's 'Locate' to search through your !Boot
> > > looking for files containing the string 'rfc1644' and you'll find it.
>
> > From an Iyonix backup, this file :-
>
> > !Boot.Choices.Internet.User
>
> > contains these, now obsolete, two lines:-
>
> > sysctl -ew net.inet.tcp.rfc1644=0 { > null: }
> > *sysctl -ew net.inet.tcp.mssdflt=1500
>
> > As already said, comment them out or delete them.
>
> > A little light reading :-
>
> > https://www.riscosopen.org/wiki/documentation/show/RISC%20OS%20Upgrade
>
> > The RISC OS Open forum is now the "go to" place for support.
>
> > https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/
>
> > HTH.
>
> Thankyou Theo, and David for pointing me in the right direction, problem
> solved, it was indeed a line in the !Boot.Choices.Inter.User file, in
> this case just the one line.
> Commenting out the line "sysctl -ew net.inet.tcp.rfc1644=0" did the trick

IIRC this line was required to let the Ant Suite/Fresco access Barclays Banking
So probably not needed now:-)

> I no longer get that warning message when re-booting the machine.

Chris Evans

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