Rocksolid Light

Welcome to novaBBS (click a section below)

mail  files  register  newsreader  groups  login

Message-ID:  

One Bell System - it sometimes works.


computers / alt.privacy.anon-server / Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?

SubjectAuthor
* What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?Grant Taylor
+* Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?SEC3
|+- Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?Grant Taylor
|+- Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?Nomen Nescio
|`* Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?Anonymous
| `* Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?Civitas
|  +- Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?Nomen Nescio
|  `- Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?Nomen Nescio
`- Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?Nomen Nescio

1
What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?

<tu0hml$7sg$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=13746&group=alt.privacy.anon-server#13746

 copy link   Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feed1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net!tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net!.POSTED.alpha.home.tnetconsulting.net!not-for-mail
From: gtay...@tnetconsulting.net (Grant Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Subject: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2023 15:45:34 -0700
Organization: TNet Consulting
Message-ID: <tu0hml$7sg$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2023 22:45:41 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net; posting-host="alpha.home.tnetconsulting.net:198.18.18.251";
logging-data="8080"; mail-complaints-to="newsmaster@tnetconsulting.net"
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/78.13.0
X-Mozilla-News-Host: snews://tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net:563
Content-Language: en-US
 by: Grant Taylor - Sat, 4 Mar 2023 22:45 UTC

Hi,

What is the 2023 counterpart to 1995's PGP / GPG?

I know many people poopoo PGP / GPG today.

But what are the current alternatives for public key based encrypted and
/ or signed file / email exchange?

What would you recommend using for a greenfield project that would
naturally reach for PGP / GPG? Knowing that it needs to be
multi-platform and use some for of PKI.

--
Grant. . . .
unix || die

Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?

<QHQML.1447935$9sn9.125335@fx17.iad>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=13747&group=alt.privacy.anon-server#13747

 copy link   Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feed1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx17.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
MIME-Version: 1.0
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/102.8.0
Subject: Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
References: <tu0hml$7sg$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
Content-Language: en-US
From: adm...@sec3.net (SEC3)
In-Reply-To: <tu0hml$7sg$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Lines: 32
Message-ID: <QHQML.1447935$9sn9.125335@fx17.iad>
X-Complaints-To: abuse@blocknews.net
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2023 23:42:40 UTC
Organization: blocknews - www.blocknews.net
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2023 18:42:40 -0500
X-Received-Bytes: 1577
 by: SEC3 - Sat, 4 Mar 2023 23:42 UTC

On 2023-03-04 17:45, Grant Taylor wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What is the 2023 counterpart to 1995's PGP / GPG?
>
> I know many people poopoo PGP / GPG today.
>
> But what are the current alternatives for public key based encrypted and
> / or signed file / email exchange?
>
> What would you recommend using for a greenfield project that would
> naturally reach for PGP / GPG?  Knowing that it needs to be
> multi-platform and use some for of PKI.
>
>
>

Age is one of the new kids on the block. I like it. It lacks signing
support, though.

The code:
https://github.com/FiloSottile/age

An informative blog bost from Age's creator Filippo Valsorda:
https://words.filippo.io/dispatches/age-authentication/

--
SEC3

YAMN Help Tutorial - https://www.sec3.net/yamnhelp/

Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?

<tu0oqi$kbk$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=13749&group=alt.privacy.anon-server#13749

 copy link   Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feed1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net!tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net!.POSTED.alpha.home.tnetconsulting.net!not-for-mail
From: gtay...@tnetconsulting.net (Grant Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Subject: Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2023 17:47:07 -0700
Organization: TNet Consulting
Message-ID: <tu0oqi$kbk$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
References: <tu0hml$7sg$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
<QHQML.1447935$9sn9.125335@fx17.iad>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2023 00:47:14 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net; posting-host="alpha.home.tnetconsulting.net:198.18.18.251";
logging-data="20852"; mail-complaints-to="newsmaster@tnetconsulting.net"
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/78.13.0
In-Reply-To: <QHQML.1447935$9sn9.125335@fx17.iad>
Content-Language: en-US
 by: Grant Taylor - Sun, 5 Mar 2023 00:47 UTC

On 3/4/23 4:42 PM, SEC3 wrote:
> Age is one of the new kids on the block. I like it. It lacks signing
> support, though.

:-/

I would really like to have signing support. But that's not as
necessary as encryption support.

> An informative blog bost from Age's creator Filippo Valsorda:
> https://words.filippo.io/dispatches/age-authentication/

Thank you for the information SEC3.

I'll do some reading.

--
Grant. . . .
unix || die

Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?

<2aaf10a79300091235350b9d05685c60@dizum.com>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=13750&group=alt.privacy.anon-server#13750

 copy link   Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
From: nob...@dizum.com (Nomen Nescio)
Subject: Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?
References: <tu0hml$7sg$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
<QHQML.1447935$9sn9.125335@fx17.iad>
Message-ID: <2aaf10a79300091235350b9d05685c60@dizum.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2023 02:18:09 +0100 (CET)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!sewer!news.dizum.net!not-for-mail
Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider
X-Abuse: abuse@dizum.com
Injection-Info: sewer.dizum.com - 2001::1/128
 by: Nomen Nescio - Sun, 5 Mar 2023 01:18 UTC

In article <QHQML.1447935$9sn9.125335@fx17.iad>
SEC3 <admin@sec3.net> wrote:
>
> On 2023-03-04 17:45, Grant Taylor wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > What is the 2023 counterpart to 1995's PGP / GPG?
> >
> > I know many people poopoo PGP / GPG todayD

Another pack of "experts" without a shred of proof.

DEL

>
> Age is one of the new kids on the block. I like it. It lacks signing
> support, though.

To think any "new" encryption is secure is ridiculous. Time is the
only judge of that.

> The code:
> https://github.com/FiloSottile/age
>
> --
> SEC3

Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?

<dc4f0325b47fa1493c4fb3e5c4727deb@remailer.paranoici.org>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=13751&group=alt.privacy.anon-server#13751

 copy link   Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!news.neodome.net!mail2news
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2023 02:39:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Injection-Info: neodome.net;
posting-account="mail2news";
key="pK8PKVEj4NpbUAAuLf6jWg/CMMkGkUb2g5JR7lvcYN4qmt7Ae8r3pSDCNp3Q8Z6Vv3v3fq
Ev8SFsYiDnuHsKajnFOi5rarvMwygxc0xkqQ56RkhYBz04PCWKJPsduXEfY/ujaD7G8BM6E6Idw
a/VDqrLvjnN6v3oyWUSa1Y3JB1J/uDLW5lPh2zf4UnXSQ8ZPdO8msR0W4N9EEEJwaFAexjpe0Bi
gEaEA0I6anzeD1YqpkIJGrMIOiphw/5LPlWEmghpwF2SrM9CtYu/C7Lp539GKuI5ndIgPX+aYLn
3JVxXXQW7WY4c6HS2trP5wt5LaJf7Tm1pxC2sXHy5pJKOqg==";
data="U2FsdGVkX19+w4DX1LmyEPgInMISnPBR/48tQhzvc27ITbfn5zWyiy5Lvo8Q8VGORMgtm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==";
mail-complaints-to="abuse@neodome.net"
Injection-Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2023 02:40:01 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <dc4f0325b47fa1493c4fb3e5c4727deb@remailer.paranoici.org>
References: <tu0hml$7sg$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net> <QHQML.1447935$9sn9.125335@fx17.iad>
From: nob...@remailer.paranoici.org (Anonymous)
Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above.
It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software.
Please report problems or inappropriate use to the
remailer administrator at <abuse@remailer.paranoici.org>.
Comments: This message was transferred to Usenet via mail2news gateway at
<mail2news@neodome.net>. Please send questions and concerns to
<admin@neodome.net>. Report inappropriate use to <abuse@neodome.net>.
 by: Anonymous - Sun, 5 Mar 2023 02:39 UTC

In article <QHQML.1447935$9sn9.125335@fx17.iad>
SEC3 <admin@sec3.net> wrote:
>
> On 2023-03-04 17:45, Grant Taylor wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > What is the 2023 counterpart to 1995's PGP / GPG?
> >
> > I know many people poopoo PGP / GPG today.
> >
> > But what are the current alternatives for public key based encrypted and
> > / or signed file / email exchange?
> >
> Age is one of the new kids on the block.

Here is a story of another new kid on the block.

�Post-Quantum� Cryptography Scheme Is Cracked on a Lptop.

https://www.quantamagazine.org/post-quantum-cryptography-scheme-is-
cracked-on-a-laptop-20220824/

Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?

<tu16nm$njq$2@news.cyber23.de>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=13754&group=alt.privacy.anon-server#13754

 copy link   Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.cyber23.de!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: civ...@ized.example (Civitas)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Subject: Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2023 22:47:34 -0600
Organization: Cyber23 news
Message-ID: <tu16nm$njq$2@news.cyber23.de>
References: <tu0hml$7sg$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
<QHQML.1447935$9sn9.125335@fx17.iad>
<dc4f0325b47fa1493c4fb3e5c4727deb@remailer.paranoici.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2023 04:44:38 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: news.cyber23.de;
logging-data="24186"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@cyber23.de"
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/102.8.0
Content-Language: en-US
In-Reply-To: <dc4f0325b47fa1493c4fb3e5c4727deb@remailer.paranoici.org>
 by: Civitas - Sun, 5 Mar 2023 04:47 UTC

On 3/4/23 20:39, Anonymous wrote:
> In article <QHQML.1447935$9sn9.125335@fx17.iad>
> SEC3 <admin@sec3.net> wrote:
>>
>> On 2023-03-04 17:45, Grant Taylor wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> What is the 2023 counterpart to 1995's PGP / GPG?
>>>
>>> I know many people poopoo PGP / GPG today.
>>>
>>> But what are the current alternatives for public key based encrypted and
>>> / or signed file / email exchange?
>>>
>> Age is one of the new kids on the block.
>
> Here is a story of another new kid on the block.
>
> ‘Post-Quantum’ Cryptography Scheme Is Cracked on a Lptop.
>
> https://www.quantamagazine.org/post-quantum-cryptography-scheme-is-
> cracked-on-a-laptop-20220824/

what is truly crazy is this

if you try to propose a provably secure encryption scheme

the gatekeepers will attack you

nist will ignore it

nist submission process is more complex than some cryptosystems

you will be blacklisted

you will be called a snake oil vendor

trolls who have never invented a cryptosystem will jump on to sci.crypt
to drown out your proposal with their 'expert' opinions

meanwhile they will keep rolling industry crypto that gets zero dayed or
borked

and they will say 'trust us'

nothing based on DLP or factoring is secure

nothing based on these problems has ever been secure

there is shortcut that NSA has always known

ask David Chaum

he can tell you industry standard crypto is transparent to the NSA

they got everyone using the same crypto

that is exactly the plan all along

everyone ignored Terry Ritter who warned against putting all eggs in one
basket

there is a little clique of gatekeepers who control public cryptography
industry and they are not your friends

Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?

<7a9c54819ef735a95d2e40cb31912c46@dizum.com>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=13756&group=alt.privacy.anon-server#13756

 copy link   Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
From: nob...@dizum.com (Nomen Nescio)
Subject: Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?
References: <tu0hml$7sg$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
<QHQML.1447935$9sn9.125335@fx17.iad>
<dc4f0325b47fa1493c4fb3e5c4727deb@remailer.paranoici.org>
<tu16nm$njq$2@news.cyber23.de>
Message-ID: <7a9c54819ef735a95d2e40cb31912c46@dizum.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2023 20:33:22 +0100 (CET)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.goja.nl.eu.org!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.uzoreto.com!alphared!sewer!news.dizum.net!not-for-mail
Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider
X-Abuse: abuse@dizum.com
Injection-Info: sewer.dizum.com - 2001::1/128
 by: Nomen Nescio - Sun, 5 Mar 2023 19:33 UTC

In article <tu16nm$njq$2@news.cyber23.de>
Civitas <civil@ized.example> wrote:
>
> On 3/4/23 20:39, Anonymous wrote:
> > In article <QHQML.1447935$9sn9.125335@fx17.iad>
> > SEC3 <admin@sec3.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2023-03-04 17:45, Grant Taylor wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> What is the 2023 counterpart to 1995's PGP / GPG?
> >>>
> >>> I know many people poopoo PGP / GPG today.
> >>>
> >>> But what are the current alternatives for public key based encrypted and
> >>> / or signed file / email exchange?
> >>>
> >> Age is one of the new kids on the block.
> >
> > Here is a story of another new kid on the block.
> >
> > �Post-Quantum� Cryptography Scheme Is Cracked on a Lptop.
> >
> > https://www.quantamagazine.org/post-quantum-cryptography-scheme-is-
> > cracked-on-a-laptop-20220824/
>
> what is truly crazy is this
>
> if you try to propose a provably secure encryption scheme
>
> the gatekeepers will attack you
>
> nist will ignore it
>
> nist submission process is more complex than some cryptosystems
>
> you will be blacklisted
>
> you will be called a snake oil vendor
>
> trolls who have never invented a cryptosystem will jump on to sci.crypt
> to drown out your proposal with their 'expert' opinions
>
> meanwhile they will keep rolling industry crypto that gets zero dayed or
> borked
>
> and they will say 'trust us'
>
> nothing based on DLP or factoring is secure
>
> nothing based on these problems has ever been secure
>
> there is shortcut that NSA has always known
>
> ask David Chaum
>
> he can tell you industry standard crypto is transparent to the NSA
>
> they got everyone using the same crypto
>
> that is exactly the plan all along
>
> everyone ignored Terry Ritter who warned against putting all eggs in one
> basket
>
> there is a little clique of gatekeepers who control public cryptography
> industry and they are not your friends

Sci.Crypt has been effectively destroyed by spammers (gov't hackers?)
for some time.

If you want to read a really interesting posts, and follow its
enlightening links, go here.

http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=<tt8ut8%243a0hn%241%40paganini.bofh.team>

It is still in the sci.crypt group.
From: CRYP7010G3R <cryptologer@defcon.social>
Newsgroups: sci.crypt
Subject: Re: Hello, sci.crypt cryptonauts! What happened to this NG?
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 18:06:24 -0600
Message-ID: <tt8ut8$3a0hn$1@paganini.bofh.team>

>> Most of the spam is coming from corporate binary access providers.
>> They work hand in glove with the intelligence organs to maintain 24/7
>> surveillance, annoyance and disruption of all independent
>> communication networks. Where the organs can't maintain total
>> information control they maintain total disruption and disinformation
>> to keep normal people repulsed from the target medium. They have used
>> black hat hacker groups for such purposes as a matter of routine. Once
>> a black hat gets busted and pinched up with charges, they usually
>> offer a deal of permanent employment in the intelligence internet
>> activities, or very lengthy prison terms for those who won't cut the
>> deal. Almost everyone takes the deal, does a short stint in the clink,
>> then comes out to work as a semi-freelance informant or troll for the
>> state intelligence organs.

The Gentleperson's Guide To Forum Spies : COINTELPRO Techniques for
dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum

https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

THE WORST SNOWDEN REVELATION OF THEM ALL: DIGITAL COINTELPRO

https://popularresistance.org/the-worst-snowden-revelation-of-them-
all-digital-cointelpro/

Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?

<9f06d13eb9b80300d522f4a798f438b3@dizum.com>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=13757&group=alt.privacy.anon-server#13757

 copy link   Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
From: nob...@dizum.com (Nomen Nescio)
Subject: Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?
References: <tu0hml$7sg$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
<QHQML.1447935$9sn9.125335@fx17.iad>
<dc4f0325b47fa1493c4fb3e5c4727deb@remailer.paranoici.org>
<tu16nm$njq$2@news.cyber23.de>
Message-ID: <9f06d13eb9b80300d522f4a798f438b3@dizum.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2023 21:19:27 +0100 (CET)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.goja.nl.eu.org!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.uzoreto.com!alphared!sewer!news.dizum.net!not-for-mail
Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider
X-Abuse: abuse@dizum.com
Injection-Info: sewer.dizum.com - 2001::1/128
 by: Nomen Nescio - Sun, 5 Mar 2023 20:19 UTC

In article <tu16nm$njq$2@news.cyber23.de>
Civitas <civil@ized.example> wrote:
>
> On 3/4/23 20:39, Anonymous wrote:
> > In article <QHQML.1447935$9sn9.125335@fx17.iad>
> > SEC3 <admin@sec3.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2023-03-04 17:45, Grant Taylor wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> What is the 2023 counterpart to 1995's PGP / GPG?
> >>>
> >>> I know many people poopoo PGP / GPG today.
> >>>
> >>> But what are the current alternatives for public key based encrypted and
> >>> / or signed file / email exchange?
> >>>
> >> Age is one of the new kids on the block.
> >
> > Here is a story of another new kid on the block.
> >
> > �Post-Quantum� Cryptography Scheme Is Cracked on a Lptop.
> >
> > https://www.quantamagazine.org/post-quantum-cryptography-scheme-is-
> > cracked-on-a-laptop-20220824/
>
> what is truly crazy is this
>
> if you try to propose a provably secure encryption scheme
>
> the gatekeepers will attack you
>
> nist will ignore it
>
> nist submission process is more complex than some cryptosystems
>
> you will be blacklisted
>
> you will be called a snake oil vendor
>
> trolls who have never invented a cryptosystem will jump on to sci.crypt
> to drown out your proposal with their 'expert' opinions
>
> meanwhile they will keep rolling industry crypto that gets zero dayed or
> borked
>
> and they will say 'trust us'
>
> nothing based on DLP or factoring is secure
>
> nothing based on these problems has ever been secure
>
> there is shortcut that NSA has always known
>
> ask David Chaum
>
> he can tell you industry standard crypto is transparent to the NSA
>
> they got everyone using the same crypto
>
> that is exactly the plan all along
>
> everyone ignored Terry Ritter who warned against putting all eggs in one
> basket
>
> there is a little clique of gatekeepers who control public cryptography
> industry and they are not your friends

We have no online security or privacy.

http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=<tt8ut8%243a0hn%241%40paganini.bofh.team>

(The above post is still current in the sci.crypt group.)

>> Most of the spam is coming from corporate binary access providers.
>> They work hand in glove with the intelligence organs to maintain 24/7
>> surveillance, annoyance and disruption of all independent
>> communication networks. Where the organs can't maintain total
>> information control they maintain total disruption and disinformation
>> to keep normal people repulsed from the target medium. They have used
>> black hat hacker groups for such purposes as a matter of routine. Once
>> a black hat gets busted and pinched up with charges, they usually
>> offer a deal of permanent employment in the intelligence internet
>> activities, or very lengthy prison terms for those who won't cut the
>> deal. Almost everyone takes the deal, does a short stint in the clink,
>> then comes out to work as a semi-freelance informant or troll for the
>> state intelligence organs.

The Gentleperson's Guide To Forum Spies : COINTELPRO Techniques for
dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum
https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
====
THE WORST SNOWDEN REVELATION OF THEM ALL: DIGITAL COINTELPRO
https://popularresistance.org/the-worst-snowden-revelation-of-them-
all-digital-cointelpro/
=====
How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and
Destroy Reputations
https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

"One of the many pressing stories that remains to be told from the
Snowden archive is how western intelligence agencies are attempting
to manipulate and control online discourse with extreme tactics of
deception and reputation-destruction."

Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?

<1470fbda8fe2d4e87d6fd5fe97118fc0@dizum.com>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=13762&group=alt.privacy.anon-server#13762

 copy link   Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
From: nob...@dizum.com (Nomen Nescio)
References: <tu0hml$7sg$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
Subject: Re: What is the contemporary solution for what PGP / GPG does?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID: <1470fbda8fe2d4e87d6fd5fe97118fc0@dizum.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 19:09:14 +0100 (CET)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!sewer!news.dizum.net!not-for-mail
Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider
X-Abuse: abuse@dizum.com
Injection-Info: sewer.dizum.com - 2001::1/128
 by: Nomen Nescio - Tue, 7 Mar 2023 18:09 UTC

> What is the 2023 counterpart to 1995's PGP / GPG?
>

https://gnupg.org

1
server_pubkey.txt

rocksolid light 0.9.7
clearnet tor