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* If you're seeing ads, especially targeted ads - you're on iOS (not Android)Andy Burnelli
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|`* Re: If you're seeing ads, especially targeted ads - you're on iOSJoerg Lorenz
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|  `* Re: If you're seeing ads, especially targeted ads - you're on iOS (not Android)Andy Burnelli
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|    +* Re: If you're seeing ads, especially targeted ads - you're on iOS (not Android)nospam
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|       `* Re: If you're seeing ads, especially targeted ads - you're on iOSAlan
|        `* Re: If you're seeing ads, especially targeted ads - you're on iOS (not Android)nospam
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|         `* Re: If you're seeing ads, especially targeted ads - you're on iOS (not Android)Andy Burnelli
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|          `* Re: If you're seeing ads, especially targeted ads - you're on iOS (not Android)nospam
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|            `* Re: If you're seeing ads, especially targeted ads - you're on iOS (not Android)nospam
|             `* Re: If you're seeing ads, especially targeted ads - you're on iOS (not Android)Andy Burnelli
|              `* Re: If you're seeing ads, especially targeted ads - you're on iOS (not Android)nospam
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|                `* Re: If you're seeing ads, especially targeted ads - you're on iOS (not Android)nospam
|                 `* Re: If you're seeing ads, especially targeted ads - you're on iOS (not Android)Andy Burnelli
|                  `- Re: If you're seeing ads, especially targeted ads - you're on iOSAlan
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 by: Andy Burnelli - Fri, 10 Feb 2023 18:59 UTC

nospam wrote:

> but at least it's less than 'a billion ios steps' that he proposed.

The billion was a metaphor as it's only the _first_ step in preventing not
only ad personalizations but each and every ad in each and every app on
iOS.

After personalization, you have to turn off location based ads on iOS.
(Or are you iKooks claiming that location-based ads aren't personalized?)

Once you do that... come back to me and we'll work on the next in the list.

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 by: Alan - Fri, 10 Feb 2023 19:03 UTC

On 2023-02-10 10:59, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> nospam wrote:
>
>> but at least it's less than 'a billion ios steps' that he proposed.
>
> The billion was a metaphor as it's only the _first_ step in preventing not
> only ad personalizations but each and every ad in each and every app on
> iOS.

Facts only, please!

Supported facts.

>
> After personalization, you have to turn off location based ads on iOS.
> (Or are you iKooks claiming that location-based ads aren't personalized?)

Location-based apps are clearly NOT personalized.

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 by: News - Fri, 10 Feb 2023 19:15 UTC

On 2/10/2023 1:56 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-02-10 10:47, nospam wrote:
>> In article <ts62u7$144rq$1@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> As I said, on Android you can wipe out the AdID in a single step.
>>>> *Not a billion iOS steps, once for each installed app, nospam*
>>
>> not very many people have a billion apps, especially given that there's
>> less than 10 million apps.
>>
>>> "Turn personalized ads on or off
>>>
>>> Go to Settings  > Privacy & Security > Apple Advertising, then turn
>>> Personalized Ads on or off."
>>
>> that's two steps. :)
>
> Meh. I consider going to one place and turning off one control to be one
> step.
>
>>
>> but at least it's less than 'a billion ios steps' that he proposed.
>
> Agreed.

Which makes no difference. iOS is still an ad-littered hellscape.

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 by: Alan - Fri, 10 Feb 2023 19:18 UTC

On 2023-02-10 11:15, News wrote:
> On 2/10/2023 1:56 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-02-10 10:47, nospam wrote:
>>> In article <ts62u7$144rq$1@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said, on Android you can wipe out the AdID in a single step.
>>>>> *Not a billion iOS steps, once for each installed app, nospam*
>>>
>>> not very many people have a billion apps, especially given that there's
>>> less than 10 million apps.
>>>
>>>> "Turn personalized ads on or off
>>>>
>>>> Go to Settings  > Privacy & Security > Apple Advertising, then turn
>>>> Personalized Ads on or off."
>>>
>>> that's two steps. :)
>>
>> Meh. I consider going to one place and turning off one control to be
>> one step.
>>
>>>
>>> but at least it's less than 'a billion ios steps' that he proposed.
>>
>> Agreed.
>
>
>
> Which makes no difference. iOS is still an ad-littered hellscape.

<yawn>

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 by: nospam - Fri, 10 Feb 2023 19:25 UTC

In article <ts645b$1hvjd$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
<nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

>
> > but at least it's less than 'a billion ios steps' that he proposed.
>
> The billion was a metaphor as it's only the _first_ step in preventing not
> only ad personalizations but each and every ad in each and every app on
> iOS.

it's not any step.

maybe if you actually understood how things work, you'd realize how
nonsensical what you are spewing actually is.

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Fri, 10 Feb 2023 19:47 UTC

nospam wrote:

> it's not any step.

I agree with you that iOS can't do what Android does, nospam.
It's a billion steps in iOS and you _still_ can't do what Android does.

> maybe if you actually understood how things work, you'd realize how
> nonsensical what you are spewing actually is.

It's clear you are who knows _nothing_ since you have to explicitly turn
off location based ads in iOS and you are completely unaware of that fact.

Even if you were aware of that fact, I'd bring up the next step because,
with iOS, you can't get the kind of privacy and ad blocking Android has.

*If you're seeing ads, then you're on iOS.* (Not Android.)

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 by: nospam - Fri, 10 Feb 2023 19:48 UTC

In article <ts66ve$1i924$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
<nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

> I agree with you that iOS can't do what Android does,

nobody said that, liar.

> It's a billion steps in iOS and you _still_ can't do what Android does.

no, it's essentially the same.

the actual apps might be from different developers, something which
greatly confuses you.

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Fri, 10 Feb 2023 19:55 UTC

nospam wrote:

>> I agree with you that iOS can't do what Android does,
>
> nobody said that, liar.

Don't call me a liar because *_you_ don't know how iOS works*, nospam.

HINT: You have no clue you can't get tor project privacy out of webkit.
HINT: You have no clue these two apps aren't even close to similar.
HINT: You have no clue iOS doesn't have a system-wide on-device firewall.
etc.
The assessment remains factually valid and well substantiated, nospam:
*If you're seeing ads on a smartphone, then you're on iOS* (Not Android.)

>> It's a billion steps in iOS and you _still_ can't do what Android does.
>
> no, it's essentially the same.
>
> the actual apps might be from different developers, something which
> greatly confuses you.

No. It's _you_ who is ignorant, nospam.
Not me.

Otherwise you wouldn't need to lie so much about iOS functionality.

How many times, for example, have you lied about iOS GPS spoofers, nospam?
How many times have you lied about system-wide iOS firewalls, nospam?
How many times did you lie on blocking wi-fi & cellular on a per app basis?
etc.

What all you deceitful iKooks do, all day, every day... is lie.
*You have no other defense to the truth than your lies.*

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 by: nospam - Fri, 10 Feb 2023 20:07 UTC

In article <ts67eg$1iafs$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
<nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

>
> Don't call me a liar

stop lying and people won't call you a liar.

very simple.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Fri, 10 Feb 2023 20:11 UTC

On 2023-02-10, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
> On 2/10/2023 1:56 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-02-10 10:47, nospam wrote:
>>> In article <ts62u7$144rq$1@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> As I said, on Android you can wipe out the AdID in a single step.
>>>>> *Not a billion iOS steps, once for each installed app, nospam*
>>>
>>> not very many people have a billion apps, especially given that
>>> there's less than 10 million apps.
>>>
>>>> "Turn personalized ads on or off
>>>>
>>>> Go to Settings  > Privacy & Security > Apple Advertising, then turn
>>>> Personalized Ads on or off."
>>>
>>> that's two steps. :)
>>
>> Meh. I consider going to one place and turning off one control to be
>> one step.
>>
>>> but at least it's less than 'a billion ios steps' that he proposed.
>>
>> Agreed.
>
> Which makes no difference. iOS is still an ad-littered hellscape.

Except it isn't, which is observable by every single person who uses
one. Your little lies are weak.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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 by: News - Fri, 10 Feb 2023 20:15 UTC

On 2/10/2023 3:11 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2023-02-10, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
>> On 2/10/2023 1:56 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2023-02-10 10:47, nospam wrote:
>>>> In article <ts62u7$144rq$1@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> As I said, on Android you can wipe out the AdID in a single step.
>>>>>> *Not a billion iOS steps, once for each installed app, nospam*
>>>>
>>>> not very many people have a billion apps, especially given that
>>>> there's less than 10 million apps.
>>>>
>>>>> "Turn personalized ads on or off
>>>>>
>>>>> Go to Settings  > Privacy & Security > Apple Advertising, then turn
>>>>> Personalized Ads on or off."
>>>>
>>>> that's two steps. :)
>>>
>>> Meh. I consider going to one place and turning off one control to be
>>> one step.
>>>
>>>> but at least it's less than 'a billion ios steps' that he proposed.
>>>
>>> Agreed.
>>
>> Which makes no difference. iOS is still an ad-littered hellscape.
>
> Except it isn't, which is observable by every single person who uses
> one. Your little lies are weak.
>

In which case it ought to be easy for you to point to one million
individuals within the claim 'every single person'. We'll wait.

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Fri, 10 Feb 2023 21:08 UTC

nospam wrote:

> very simple.

Don't call me a liar because *_you_ don't know how iOS works*, nospam.

You are a deceitful person who lies every time you can't respond to facts.
Which is almost all the time, unfortunately.

If you wish to refute this summary, then refute that using facts, nospam.
*If you're seeing ads* on a smartphone, then *you're on iOS*

Refute that, nospam, but use _facts_ to refute that (which you can't).
Instead of resorting to lies which only prove my point of what you are.
--
Why should iKooks look anything up when it's easier for them to just lie.

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 by: nospam - Fri, 10 Feb 2023 21:21 UTC

In article <ts6bng$1iosn$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
<nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

> Don't call me a liar because *_you_ don't know how iOS works*

that's not why they're calling you a liar.

they're calling you a liar because you lie a lot.

> I am a deceitful person who lies every time I can't respond to facts.
> Which is almost all the time, unfortunately.

ftfy

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Sat, 11 Feb 2023 11:46 UTC

nospam wrote:

> they're calling you a liar because you lie a lot.

And yet, you've never found a single fact from me to ever be wrong.
You can't.

I'm not like you nospam.

I'm nothing like you, in fact.
You have no shame. No pride. No honor. No morals. No respect for yourself.

You have no respect for any human being, nospam.

You would feel no remorse stabbing your own mother in the back nospam.
That's the kind of deceitful despicable piece of shit you truly are.

Re: If you're seeing ads, especially targeted ads - you're on iOS (not Android)

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 by: Alan - Sat, 11 Feb 2023 16:28 UTC

On 2023-02-11 03:46, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> nospam wrote:
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>> they're calling you a liar because you lie a lot.
>
> And yet, you've never found a single fact from me to ever be wrong.

Well that's a lie.

Re: If you're seeing ads, especially targeted ads - you're on iOS (not Android)

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 by: Thomas E. - Tue, 28 Mar 2023 21:28 UTC

On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 6:36:50 PM UTC-5, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> If you're seeing ads, and especially if you're seeing TARGETED ads,
> you're on iOS (because Android doesn't show ads on it anymore).
>
> If you're seeing ads, especially targeted ads - you're on iOS (not Android).
> Ask me how I know this.

Crap! Android by default tracks you like bloodhound.

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