badgolferman wrote:

> There really is no good reason to
> remove it other than to become more "Android-like" and to save $0.05
> per phone.

Hi badgolferman,

Apple _never_ has your best interest in mind when Apple decontents iPhones.

Bearing in mind that "if it's true" that Apple is (yet again) decontenting
the iPhone as you suggest, I can discuss nuance of detail differently with
you than with the iKooks, where I doubt Apple cares to ever be "Android
like" in any way, per se.

*It's part of Apple's core strategy to inexorably decontent the iPhone.*

Each time Apple decontents the iPhone, they come up with a ridiculously
easy to refute _different_ excuse (green, water proof, quality, etc.),
but what _never changes_ is Apple's core strategy is to decontent.

*Apple's core strategy is to inexorably decontent the iPhone*

Apple does care to remove functionality, one by one, bit by bit, year by
year, inexorably removing (or not providing) functionality so that you're
forced to "get it back" somehow - which - *SURPRISE!* - Apple MARKETING
always has a ready-made solution.

*Apple doesn't add functionality - Apple _removes_ functionality*

An example of Apple's core strategy of decontenting the iPHone so that
you're forced to scramble to get it back is the removal of the industry
standard headphone jack (where Appel provides... *SURPRISE!* - a ready-made
solution that costs tons more than anything would that used the jack).

Apple _never_ has your best interest in mind when Apple decontents iPhones.

Take the lack of the sd slot, where *SURPRISE!*, Apple marketing has a
ready-made solution for you (which is the iCloud that you will pay for).

As another example of Apple decontenting the iPhone and then providing a
ready-made solution is the loss of the correct charger in the box, where,
as always *SURPRISE!* - Apple has a ready-made solution which is always
more expensive than if they just put the correct charger in the box.

Take another case of the shockingly decrepit batteries Apple cheaps out on
in _all_ the iPhones, all of which have laughably miniscule capacity,
which, *SURPRISE!* Apple will be happy to sell you a very expensive
replacement and *SURPRISE!* if you don't get it from them - Apple will be
happy to permanently display a message on your phone that you're too cheap
to pay ten times what the battery should cost - not to have that message
displayed on your phone (where in all cases you used an Apple battery).

We could go on and on and on about Apple's core strategy of decontenting
the iPhone and then *SURPRISE!* Apple providing a ready-made always ten
times more expensive 'solution' to the problem Apple caused (on purpose).

In summary, if it's true what you say, it fits into Apple's core strategy.

On 30 Mar 2023 at 9:03:31 PM, Andy Burnelli <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

> badgolferman wrote:
>
>> There really is no good reason to
>> remove it other than to become more "Android-like" and to save $0.05
>> per phone.
>
> Hi badgolferman,
>
> Apple _never_ has your best interest in mind when Apple decontents iPhones.
>
> Bearing in mind that "if it's true" that Apple is (yet again) decontenting
> the iPhone as you suggest, I can discuss nuance of detail differently with
> you than with the iKooks, where I doubt Apple cares to ever be "Android
> like" in any way, per se.
>
> *It's part of Apple's core strategy to inexorably decontent the iPhone.*
>
> Each time Apple decontents the iPhone, they come up with a ridiculously
> easy to refute _different_ excuse (green, water proof, quality, etc.),
> but what _never changes_ is Apple's core strategy is to decontent.
>
> *Apple's core strategy is to inexorably decontent the iPhone*
>
> Apple does care to remove functionality, one by one, bit by bit, year by
> year, inexorably removing (or not providing) functionality so that you're
> forced to "get it back" somehow - which - *SURPRISE!* - Apple MARKETING
> always has a ready-made solution.
>
> *Apple doesn't add functionality - Apple _removes_ functionality*
>
> An example of Apple's core strategy of decontenting the iPHone so that
> you're forced to scramble to get it back is the removal of the industry
> standard headphone jack (where Appel provides... *SURPRISE!* - a ready-made
> solution that costs tons more than anything would that used the jack).
>
> Apple _never_ has your best interest in mind when Apple decontents iPhones.
>
> Take the lack of the sd slot, where *SURPRISE!*, Apple marketing has a
> ready-made solution for you (which is the iCloud that you will pay for).
>
> As another example of Apple decontenting the iPhone and then providing a
> ready-made solution is the loss of the correct charger in the box, where,
> as always *SURPRISE!* - Apple has a ready-made solution which is always
> more expensive than if they just put the correct charger in the box.
>
> Take another case of the shockingly decrepit batteries Apple cheaps out on
> in _all_ the iPhones, all of which have laughably miniscule capacity,
> which, *SURPRISE!* Apple will be happy to sell you a very expensive
> replacement and *SURPRISE!* if you don't get it from them - Apple will be
> happy to permanently display a message on your phone that you're too cheap
> to pay ten times what the battery should cost - not to have that message
> displayed on your phone (where in all cases you used an Apple battery).
>
> We could go on and on and on about Apple's core strategy of decontenting
> the iPhone and then *SURPRISE!* Apple providing a ready-made always ten
> times more expensive 'solution' to the problem Apple caused (on purpose).
>
> In summary, if it's true what you say, it fits into Apple's core strategy.

What Apple does when de-contenting the iPhone is they always provide a
marketing-scripted alternative to corral you into using what they control.
--
Cheers, Rob

On 2023-03-31 08:18, RJH wrote:
> On 30 Mar 2023 at 9:03:31 PM, Andy Burnelli <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> badgolferman wrote:
>>
>>> There really is no good reason to
>>> remove it other than to become more "Android-like" and to save $0.05
>>> per phone.
>>
>> Hi badgolferman,
>>
>> Apple _never_ has your best interest in mind when Apple decontents iPhones.
>>
>> Bearing in mind that "if it's true" that Apple is (yet again) decontenting
>> the iPhone as you suggest, I can discuss nuance of detail differently with
>> you than with the iKooks, where I doubt Apple cares to ever be "Android
>> like" in any way, per se.
>>
>> *It's part of Apple's core strategy to inexorably decontent the iPhone.*
>>
>> Each time Apple decontents the iPhone, they come up with a ridiculously
>> easy to refute _different_ excuse (green, water proof, quality, etc.),
>> but what _never changes_ is Apple's core strategy is to decontent.
>>
>> *Apple's core strategy is to inexorably decontent the iPhone*
>>
>> Apple does care to remove functionality, one by one, bit by bit, year by
>> year, inexorably removing (or not providing) functionality so that you're
>> forced to "get it back" somehow - which - *SURPRISE!* - Apple MARKETING
>> always has a ready-made solution.
>>
>> *Apple doesn't add functionality - Apple _removes_ functionality*
>>
>> An example of Apple's core strategy of decontenting the iPHone so that
>> you're forced to scramble to get it back is the removal of the industry
>> standard headphone jack (where Appel provides... *SURPRISE!* - a ready-made
>> solution that costs tons more than anything would that used the jack).
>>
>> Apple _never_ has your best interest in mind when Apple decontents iPhones.
>>
>> Take the lack of the sd slot, where *SURPRISE!*, Apple marketing has a
>> ready-made solution for you (which is the iCloud that you will pay for).
>>
>> As another example of Apple decontenting the iPhone and then providing a
>> ready-made solution is the loss of the correct charger in the box, where,
>> as always *SURPRISE!* - Apple has a ready-made solution which is always
>> more expensive than if they just put the correct charger in the box.
>>
>> Take another case of the shockingly decrepit batteries Apple cheaps out on
>> in _all_ the iPhones, all of which have laughably miniscule capacity,
>> which, *SURPRISE!* Apple will be happy to sell you a very expensive
>> replacement and *SURPRISE!* if you don't get it from them - Apple will be
>> happy to permanently display a message on your phone that you're too cheap
>> to pay ten times what the battery should cost - not to have that message
>> displayed on your phone (where in all cases you used an Apple battery).
>>
>> We could go on and on and on about Apple's core strategy of decontenting
>> the iPhone and then *SURPRISE!* Apple providing a ready-made always ten
>> times more expensive 'solution' to the problem Apple caused (on purpose).
>>
>> In summary, if it's true what you say, it fits into Apple's core strategy.
>
> What Apple does when de-contenting the iPhone is they always provide a
> marketing-scripted alternative to corral you into using what they control.

I love this fairy tale world you inhabit.

Apple's sells products.

They sell what they think you will buy.

On 31 Mar 2023 at 11:53:01 AM, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> They sell what they think you will buy.

Since Apple makes a big deal of emojis and yellow phones it's more that
Apple advertises only what they think many dumb & dumber people will buy.
--
Cheers, Rob

On 2023-03-31 09:52, RJH wrote:
> On 31 Mar 2023 at 11:53:01 AM, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> They sell what they think you will buy.
>
> Since Apple makes a big deal of emojis and yellow phones it's more that
> Apple advertises only what they think many dumb & dumber people will buy.

Yes...

....it makes you feel so smart to pretend others are dumb doesn't it?

Say, what's your car colour?

Did you just pick it at random?

Are all your clothes gray?

:-)

On 2023-03-31, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-03-31 09:52, RJH wrote:
>> On 31 Mar 2023 at 11:53:01 AM, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> They sell what they think you will buy.
>>
>> Since Apple makes a big deal of emojis and yellow phones it's more
>> that Apple advertises only what they think many dumb & dumber people
>> will buy.
>
> Yes...
>
> ...it makes you feel so smart to pretend others are dumb doesn't it?
>
> Say, what's your car colour?
>
> Did you just pick it at random?
>
> Are all your clothes gray?
>
>:-)

The fact that Arlen's little troll gang uses such petty juvenile insults
says more about them than anyone else. And the fact that they spend
literal hours, days, and weeks doing it says even more about them. Their
trolls about the yellow iPhone 14 started way back on March 7th, and are
still going today, which shows how hopelessly triggered they are by
utterly trivial things - so triggered that their attention and time is
literally dominated by it. I can only imagine that having nothing better
to do with your time and energy than constantly shit posting about
things you obviously hate must be an exhausting and unrewarding
existence. I'd feel sad for them if they weren't so willfully dedicated
to shitting on their fellow human beings.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

On 2023-03-31 11:53, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-03-31 08:18, RJH wrote:

>> What Apple does when de-contenting the iPhone is they always provide a
>> marketing-scripted alternative to corral you into using what they
>> control.
>
> I love this fairy tale world you inhabit.
>
> Apple's sells products.
>
> They sell what they think you will buy.

RJH's fantasy world is that Apple's billion+ clients are all alike and
identical in their needs and tastes.

--
“Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
danger to American democracy.”
- J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
- Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
committee

On 2023-03-31 12:52, RJH wrote:
> On 31 Mar 2023 at 11:53:01 AM, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> They sell what they think you will buy.
>
> Since Apple makes a big deal of emojis and yellow phones it's more that
> Apple advertises only what they think many dumb & dumber people will buy.

Continuing to show the enormous void in your understanding of marketing
and Apple's very diverse client base.

--
“Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
danger to American democracy.”
- J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
- Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
committee

On 31 Mar 2023 at 2:25:52 PM, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

>> Since Apple makes a big deal of emojis and yellow phones it's more that
>> Apple advertises only what they think many dumb & dumber people will buy.
>
> Continuing to show the enormous void in your understanding of marketing
> and Apple's very diverse client base.

Your opinion of Apple's "very diverse" client base is suspect because you
don't seem to be aware most of Apple's customer base is in only 1 country.

That "enormous void" in your knowledge level is also apparent in that you
haven't read any of the news about what Apple has been advertising lately.

Respond only after you pick up a news report on Apple's recent ads which
show better than anything iPhone customers care mainly about color & emoji.
--
Cheers, Rob

In article <u07kfu$1j3um$1@dont-email.me>, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>
wrote:

> Your opinion of Apple's "very diverse" client base is suspect because you
> don't seem to be aware most of Apple's customer base is in only 1 country.

false.

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On 2023-03-31 17:49, RJH wrote:
> On 31 Mar 2023 at 2:25:52 PM, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
>
>>> Since Apple makes a big deal of emojis and yellow phones it's more that
>>> Apple advertises only what they think many dumb & dumber people will buy.
>>
>> Continuing to show the enormous void in your understanding of marketing
>> and Apple's very diverse client base.
>
> Your opinion of Apple's "very diverse" client base is suspect because you
> don't seem to be aware most of Apple's customer base is in only 1 country.

And because of that enormous base in 1 country alone they have to (and
do) appeal to a very broad range of customers with very, very diverse
needs and wants.

Then, worldwide, esp. in Europe and Asia, they have very good
penetration of markets with a very wide range of needs and wants. And
Apple know this to a fine level of detail.

> That "enormous void" in your knowledge level is also apparent in that you
> haven't read any of the news about what Apple has been advertising lately.

ROFL: You're the one trying to boil it down to single items because
you're too blind and deaf to see how these things actually work.

> Respond only after you pick up a news report on Apple's recent ads which
> show better than anything iPhone customers care mainly about color & emoji.

Again: the "yellow" campaign does not serve to sell yellow phones.
There are those who will desire that, but it brings a "mid cycle"
attention to the product itself (and other Apple products).

But, do focus on your losing battle to make it a narrow couple issues
because you have no understanding about a company that makes 1 M phones
every 1.5 days for their vast worldwide market of people with a wide
range of needs and wants.

--
“Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
danger to American democracy.”
- J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
- Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
committee

On 31 Mar 2023 at 10:58:59 PM, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>> Your opinion of Apple's "very diverse" client base is suspect because you
>> don't seem to be aware most of Apple's customer base is in only 1 country.
>
> false.

I suggest you open up a newspaper or a magazine or read a news report that
compares the "diversity" of the Apple customer versus Microsoft & Android.
--
Cheers, Rob

On 31 Mar 2023 at 10:07:32 PM, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

> And because of that enormous base in 1 country alone they have to (and
> do) appeal to a very broad range of customers with very, very diverse
> needs and wants.

You're the one who shows no awareness of the diversity of the competitor's
base is vastly greater than the lack of diversity of the iPhone base.

> Then, worldwide, esp. in Europe and Asia, they have very good
> penetration of markets with a very wide range of needs and wants. And
> Apple know this to a fine level of detail.

May I suggest before you again show the "enormous void" of your lack of
knowledge that you compare the diversity of Apple's product compared to
that of both Microsoft and Android.

Maybe you need to get out from under that rock and read the news for once?

>> That "enormous void" in your knowledge level is also apparent in that you
>> haven't read any of the news about what Apple has been advertising lately.
>
> ROFL: You're the one trying to boil it down to single items because
> you're too blind and deaf to see how these things actually work.

You're the one who hasn't seen even one recent ad from Apple lately.
That "enormous void" in your knowledge is leaking from your closed mind.

>> Respond only after you pick up a news report on Apple's recent ads which
>> show better than anything iPhone customers care mainly about color & emoji.
>
> Again: the "yellow" campaign does not serve to sell yellow phones.
> There are those who will desire that, but it brings a "mid cycle"
> attention to the product itself (and other Apple products).

Could you imagine IBM/Lenovo/Dell selling a 'brand new' color desktop?
Can you imagine any Android owners falling for the oldest marketing trick?

Only Apple customers fall hook line & sinker for dumb marketing tricks.

> But, do focus on your losing battle to make it a narrow couple issues
> because you have no understanding about a company that makes 1 M phones
> every 1.5 days for their vast worldwide market of people with a wide
> range of needs and wants.

That "enormous void" of knowledge is very obviously inside your own head.

I suggest you open up a newspaper or a magazine or read a news report that
compares the "diversity" of the Apple customer versus Microsoft & Android.
--
Cheers, Rob

On 2023-03-31 18:20, RJH wrote:
<s>
Yep. JR was right. Sealioning.

--
“Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
danger to American democracy.”
- J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
- Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
committee

In article <u07mad$1jf4v$1@dont-email.me>, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>
wrote:

>
> >> Your opinion of Apple's "very diverse" client base is suspect because you
> >> don't seem to be aware most of Apple's customer base is in only 1 country.
> >
> > false.
>
> I suggest you open up a newspaper or a magazine or read a news report that
> compares the "diversity" of the Apple customer versus Microsoft & Android.

you snipped the link that proves you wrong, plus you're trying (and
failing) to move the goalposts yet again.

On 2023-03-31 15:20, RJH wrote:
> On 31 Mar 2023 at 10:58:59 PM, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> Your opinion of Apple's "very diverse" client base is suspect because you
>>> don't seem to be aware most of Apple's customer base is in only 1 country.
>>
>> false.
>
> I suggest you open up a newspaper or a magazine or read a news report that
> compares the "diversity" of the Apple customer versus Microsoft & Android.

I suggest you give an example.

On 2023-03-31 15:20, RJH wrote:
> On 31 Mar 2023 at 10:07:32 PM, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
>
>> And because of that enormous base in 1 country alone they have to (and
>> do) appeal to a very broad range of customers with very, very diverse
>> needs and wants.
>
> You're the one who shows no awareness of the diversity of the competitor's
> base is vastly greater than the lack of diversity of the iPhone base.
>
>> Then, worldwide, esp. in Europe and Asia, they have very good
>> penetration of markets with a very wide range of needs and wants. And
>> Apple know this to a fine level of detail.
>
> May I suggest before you again show the "enormous void" of your lack of
> knowledge that you compare the diversity of Apple's product compared to
> that of both Microsoft and Android.
>
> Maybe you need to get out from under that rock and read the news for once?
>
>>> That "enormous void" in your knowledge level is also apparent in that you
>>> haven't read any of the news about what Apple has been advertising lately.
>>
>> ROFL: You're the one trying to boil it down to single items because
>> you're too blind and deaf to see how these things actually work.
>
> You're the one who hasn't seen even one recent ad from Apple lately.
> That "enormous void" in your knowledge is leaking from your closed mind.
>
>>> Respond only after you pick up a news report on Apple's recent ads which
>>> show better than anything iPhone customers care mainly about color & emoji.
>>
>> Again: the "yellow" campaign does not serve to sell yellow phones.
>> There are those who will desire that, but it brings a "mid cycle"
>> attention to the product itself (and other Apple products).
>
> Could you imagine IBM/Lenovo/Dell selling a 'brand new' color desktop?
> Can you imagine any Android owners falling for the oldest marketing trick?
>
> Only Apple customers fall hook line & sinker for dumb marketing tricks.
>
>> But, do focus on your losing battle to make it a narrow couple issues
>> because you have no understanding about a company that makes 1 M phones
>> every 1.5 days for their vast worldwide market of people with a wide
>> range of needs and wants.
>
> That "enormous void" of knowledge is very obviously inside your own head.
>
> I suggest you open up a newspaper or a magazine or read a news report that
> compares the "diversity" of the Apple customer versus Microsoft & Android.

Devoid of actual support for your argument.

On 2023-03-31 14:49, RJH wrote:
> On 31 Mar 2023 at 2:25:52 PM, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
>
>>> Since Apple makes a big deal of emojis and yellow phones it's more that
>>> Apple advertises only what they think many dumb & dumber people will buy.
>>
>> Continuing to show the enormous void in your understanding of marketing
>> and Apple's very diverse client base.
>
> Your opinion of Apple's "very diverse" client base is suspect because you
> don't seem to be aware most of Apple's customer base is in only 1 country.

Are you HIGH?

On 31 Mar 2023 at 8:34:02 PM, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>> I suggest you open up a newspaper or a magazine or read a news report that
>> compares the "diversity" of the Apple customer versus Microsoft & Android.
>
> you snipped the link that proves you wrong, plus you're trying (and
> failing) to move the goalposts yet again.

It's pretty obvious you never looked at the diversity of the breath of the
Android phone offering even once in order to then compare all those models
to the near void of such diversity in the rather limited iPhone offerings.
--
Cheers, Rob