Rocksolid Light

Welcome to novaBBS (click a section below)

mail  files  register  newsreader  groups  login

Message-ID:  

Gravity is a myth, the Earth sucks.


computers / alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt / Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's SuperPC 2023 component videos...

SubjectAuthor
* Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck'sMr. Man-wai Chang
`* Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck'sPaul
 `* Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck'sMr. Man-wai Chang
  `* Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck'sPaul
   `* Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck'sMr. Man-wai Chang
    `* Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck'sPaul
     +* Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck'sMr. Man-wai Chang
     |`* Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck'sPaul
     | `- Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck'sMr. Man-wai Chang
     `* Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck'sPaul
      `- Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck'sPaul

1
Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's SuperPC 2023 component videos...

<u6k4r1$17ajb$2@toylet.eternal-september.org>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=1384&group=alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt#1384

 copy link   Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!toylet.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: toylet.t...@gmail.com (Mr. Man-wai Chang)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Subject: Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's
SuperPC 2023 component videos...
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 19:18:55 +0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 26
Message-ID: <u6k4r1$17ajb$2@toylet.eternal-september.org>
References: <dcea4945-f561-4f1a-a1d3-8c6df817b199n@googlegroups.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 11:18:57 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: toylet.eternal-september.org; posting-host="0867fb13ee5aa1e627cfe3361a515ed5";
logging-data="1288811"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+JTAE0LP+WAD+5VmxehY9q"
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/102.0.3
Cancel-Lock: sha1:v/cROYpnMH7sB9+joKlcfxE3jQQ=
Content-Language: en-US
In-Reply-To: <dcea4945-f561-4f1a-a1d3-8c6df817b199n@googlegroups.com>
 by: Mr. Man-wai Chang - Sat, 17 Jun 2023 11:18 UTC

On 29/5/2023 3:00 am, Skybuck Flying wrote:
> Something very strange has happened to me since filming the PC components while sitting on the edge of my chair for 90 minutes and bending over to get the pc component and hold them up in the air to show them on video.
>
> The paylist can be seen here:
>
> Last video:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYLKE0i2tGA&list=PL0HGds8aHQsAbzRQHDtSlhxEAeGj5rzil&index=11
>
> My theory/hypothesis is that a level effect happened on the tail bone of my back/butt.

Maybe not your butt, not your tail tone, but the vertebrate column!!!

vertebrate column - Google Search
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=vertebrate+column

Maybe a few bones of the vertebrate column was overly compressed when
you were bending your waist for over an hour. Try extending and relaxing
your back, twist and turn SLOWLY!!! Find the spot(s) that is/are most
painful then try slowly exercise that spot(s) so as the let blood flow
smoothly again.

Also beware of referred pain!

referred pain - Google Search
https://www.google.com/search?q=referred+pain

Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's SuperPC 2023 component videos...

<u6k8r0$1802n$1@dont-email.me>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=1385&group=alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt#1385

 copy link   Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: nos...@needed.invalid (Paul)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Subject: Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's
SuperPC 2023 component videos...
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 08:27:10 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 8
Message-ID: <u6k8r0$1802n$1@dont-email.me>
References: <dcea4945-f561-4f1a-a1d3-8c6df817b199n@googlegroups.com>
<u6k4r1$17ajb$2@toylet.eternal-september.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 12:27:12 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e5bd9164b75d07ef2738193b436fe3be";
logging-data="1310807"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18JUjRrjOTnI1nEESXuExKJ0CDPeAf1rpk="
User-Agent: Ratcatcher/2.0.0.25 (Windows/20130802)
Cancel-Lock: sha1:7kNb2Qe9tVx2g012rl19tE7ajpI=
Content-Language: en-US
In-Reply-To: <u6k4r1$17ajb$2@toylet.eternal-september.org>
 by: Paul - Sat, 17 Jun 2023 12:27 UTC

On 6/17/2023 7:18 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

> Maybe a few bones of the vertebrate column was overly compressed when you were bending your waist for over an hour. Try extending and relaxing your back, twist and turn SLOWLY!!! Find the spot(s) that is/are most painful then try slowly exercise that spot(s) so as the let blood flow smoothly again.

He's already had a scan, and the radiologist
report he pasted, shows what is wrong.

Paul

Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's SuperPC 2023 component videos...

<u6kj4f$19d28$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=1386&group=alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt#1386

 copy link   Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!toylet.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: toylet.t...@gmail.com (Mr. Man-wai Chang)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Subject: Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's
SuperPC 2023 component videos...
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 23:22:54 +0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 12
Message-ID: <u6kj4f$19d28$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
References: <dcea4945-f561-4f1a-a1d3-8c6df817b199n@googlegroups.com>
<u6k4r1$17ajb$2@toylet.eternal-september.org> <u6k8r0$1802n$1@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 15:22:56 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: toylet.eternal-september.org; posting-host="0867fb13ee5aa1e627cfe3361a515ed5";
logging-data="1356872"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+rr50K3E8+pA1h2Dgv2Q+d"
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/102.0.3
Cancel-Lock: sha1:9cUZuxs56RGVmTuIBu2U52qBwdk=
Content-Language: en-US
In-Reply-To: <u6k8r0$1802n$1@dont-email.me>
 by: Mr. Man-wai Chang - Sat, 17 Jun 2023 15:22 UTC

On 17/6/2023 8:27 pm, Paul wrote:
> On 6/17/2023 7:18 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>
>> Maybe a few bones of the vertebrate column was overly compressed when you were bending your waist for over an hour. Try extending and relaxing your back, twist and turn SLOWLY!!! Find the spot(s) that is/are most painful then try slowly exercise that spot(s) so as the let blood flow smoothly again.
>
> He's already had a scan, and the radiologist
> report he pasted, shows what is wrong.

That means it's blood flow or soft tissues (e.g. internal organs inside
the belly) problem? Anyway, he needs to try to find those pain spot(s)
himself. The pain is felt only by you, and doctors cannot directly see it.

Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's SuperPC 2023 component videos...

<u6ksvs$1amvp$1@dont-email.me>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=1387&group=alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt#1387

 copy link   Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: nos...@needed.invalid (Paul)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Subject: Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's
SuperPC 2023 component videos...
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 14:11:05 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 26
Message-ID: <u6ksvs$1amvp$1@dont-email.me>
References: <dcea4945-f561-4f1a-a1d3-8c6df817b199n@googlegroups.com>
<u6k4r1$17ajb$2@toylet.eternal-september.org> <u6k8r0$1802n$1@dont-email.me>
<u6kj4f$19d28$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2023 18:11:08 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e5bd9164b75d07ef2738193b436fe3be";
logging-data="1399801"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19YbUnP9/Q5rRHaUxvkPzCx8BnRvmLfAOQ="
User-Agent: Ratcatcher/2.0.0.25 (Windows/20130802)
Cancel-Lock: sha1:mXOnP1sMshOoglEut+pSiPSR9tY=
Content-Language: en-US
In-Reply-To: <u6kj4f$19d28$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
 by: Paul - Sat, 17 Jun 2023 18:11 UTC

On 6/17/2023 11:22 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 17/6/2023 8:27 pm, Paul wrote:
>> On 6/17/2023 7:18 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe a few bones of the vertebrate column was overly compressed when you were bending your waist for over an hour. Try extending and relaxing your back, twist and turn SLOWLY!!! Find the spot(s) that is/are most painful then try slowly exercise that spot(s) so as the let blood flow smoothly again.
>>
>> He's already had a scan, and the radiologist
>> report he pasted, shows what is wrong.
>
> That means it's blood flow or soft tissues (e.g. internal organs inside the belly) problem? Anyway, he needs to try to find those pain spot(s) himself. The pain is felt only by you, and doctors cannot directly see it.
>

Try this message.

Notice the radiologist report names the various discs and their states.

http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cdd7d01f7-ac1d-434d-b946-b6d804781f4bn%40googlegroups.com%3E

Conclusion: Low lumbar discopathy.

In the picture here, you can see the L1-L5 are down low,
the C3-C7 are up high.

https://teambone.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/image001-Anatomy.gif

Paul

Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's SuperPC 2023 component videos...

<u6na0k$1mouq$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=1388&group=alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt#1388

 copy link   Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!toylet.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: toylet.t...@gmail.com (Mr. Man-wai Chang)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Subject: Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's
SuperPC 2023 component videos...
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 00:04:36 +0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 16
Message-ID: <u6na0k$1mouq$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
References: <dcea4945-f561-4f1a-a1d3-8c6df817b199n@googlegroups.com>
<u6k4r1$17ajb$2@toylet.eternal-september.org> <u6k8r0$1802n$1@dont-email.me>
<u6kj4f$19d28$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <u6ksvs$1amvp$1@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2023 16:05:41 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: toylet.eternal-september.org; posting-host="53ea8a1cf657b42a88fda16ffdafff36";
logging-data="1795034"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19QSk4Bki5CIa3EMEcUAl01"
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/102.0.3
Cancel-Lock: sha1:I4T8i6YtGr+jXTE2uXvgoNndk8U=
Content-Language: en-US
In-Reply-To: <u6ksvs$1amvp$1@dont-email.me>
 by: Mr. Man-wai Chang - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 16:04 UTC

On 18/6/2023 2:11 am, Paul wrote:
>>>
>>> He's already had a scan, and the radiologist
>>> report he pasted, shows what is wrong.
>
> Notice the radiologist report names the various discs and their states.
>
> http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cdd7d01f7-ac1d-434d-b946-b6d804781f4bn%40googlegroups.com%3E
>
> Conclusion: Low lumbar discopathy.
Conflicting statements?? But I didn't read the first post carefully.

ANyway, don't just listen to the doctor/radiologist and forget your own
feelings.

Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's SuperPC 2023 component videos...

<u6nnft$1o6jv$1@dont-email.me>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=1389&group=alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt#1389

 copy link   Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: nos...@needed.invalid (Paul)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Subject: Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's
SuperPC 2023 component videos...
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2023 15:55:40 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 78
Message-ID: <u6nnft$1o6jv$1@dont-email.me>
References: <dcea4945-f561-4f1a-a1d3-8c6df817b199n@googlegroups.com>
<u6k4r1$17ajb$2@toylet.eternal-september.org> <u6k8r0$1802n$1@dont-email.me>
<u6kj4f$19d28$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <u6ksvs$1amvp$1@dont-email.me>
<u6na0k$1mouq$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2023 19:55:41 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b99c992322dcaada3614da96131cca7f";
logging-data="1841791"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/ceu3kaOSK4n0XL9DmypQGv9AogRRNznU="
User-Agent: Ratcatcher/2.0.0.25 (Windows/20130802)
Cancel-Lock: sha1:eKj1TRr17tL93Hk9lnp0t8pXNoo=
In-Reply-To: <u6na0k$1mouq$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
Content-Language: en-US
 by: Paul - Sun, 18 Jun 2023 19:55 UTC

On 6/18/2023 12:04 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 18/6/2023 2:11 am, Paul wrote:
>>>>
>>>> He's already had a scan, and the radiologist
>>>> report he pasted, shows what is wrong.
>>
>> Notice the radiologist report names the various discs and their states.
>>
>> http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cdd7d01f7-ac1d-434d-b946-b6d804781f4bn%40googlegroups.com%3E
>>
>>      Conclusion:   Low lumbar discopathy.
> Conflicting statements?? But I didn't read the first post carefully.
>
> ANyway, don't just listen to the doctor/radiologist and forget your own feelings.

There are no "feelings" involved here.

A scan was done.

It is the job of the radiologist, to "read the film" and
convert the image information into "information a General Practitioner
can use". The radiologist understands his role. The GP asks for
a study to be done, and the GP expresses a "theory". The radiologist
reads the scan results, analyzes it according to the GP doctor theory,
and answers the question as best as possible.

The whole scheme, this method of medical practice, is done
this way to *prevent* the radiologist from doing all the work.
The GP manages the file, and the GP answers to the patient.
The radiologist is an "assistant" to the GP. The radiologist
is an expert at reading film -- the radiologist is not a
specialist doctor making up his own theories for fun.

This statement

Low lumbar discopathy

the GP understands what that means. The professionals use
all this terminology to be "precise" about what they are
talking about. It is up to the GP to explain to the patient
what that is.

Skybucks symptoms include side effects that sound
like inflammation and pressure on surrounding
organs. And the reason you need to have this
checked promptly, is if any internal tissues
tear in that region, there could be sepsis.

Once the inflammation has subsided, then the patient
can decide whether the remaining symptoms are lumbar/spinal
or not. With the inflammation gone, the other soft
tissue should stop being a distraction. Only the spine
is going to continue whining about something. And the
physiotherapy the GP doctor is recommending, is an attempt
to control pain by stretching. The doctors do not want
to be filling people full of pain killers, so first they
want to try simple things.

This is what happened to me, when I was treated for back pain.
I got no surgery, no pain killers, and "told to do yoga exercises".
That was the sum total of my treatment. Big deal.

Today, my spine does not bother me. Which is more than a bit
weird. Yet, if I do the wrong thing, the pain comes back.
Mine has become binary. I do not know if my taking vitamin
D3 (as instructed by one of the doctors), has made any difference
or not. My diagnosis is "wear" in the lower back. All of the
materials I take, are the result of instructions from doctors.
I did not make any of it up.

A couple of my blood tests, helped measure vitamin level.
My B12 was low, so we had to deal with that. If your B12 is
low enough, it can do permanent damage. Which is why, if the
doctor detects low B12, they react to it hastily. They
do not dally and say stuff like "come back in three months
and we will check it again". They deal with that one quickly.

Paul

Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's SuperPC 2023 component videos...

<u6rp78$2dc1u$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=1390&group=alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt#1390

 copy link   Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!toylet.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: toylet.t...@gmail.com (Mr. Man-wai Chang)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Subject: Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's
SuperPC 2023 component videos...
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 16:49:43 +0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 19
Message-ID: <u6rp78$2dc1u$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
References: <dcea4945-f561-4f1a-a1d3-8c6df817b199n@googlegroups.com>
<u6k4r1$17ajb$2@toylet.eternal-september.org> <u6k8r0$1802n$1@dont-email.me>
<u6kj4f$19d28$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <u6ksvs$1amvp$1@dont-email.me>
<u6na0k$1mouq$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <u6nnft$1o6jv$1@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 08:49:44 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: toylet.eternal-september.org; posting-host="7c151ad54d290ee0ef005af581bbaee3";
logging-data="2535486"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+uv4DowFuGJ/E6R0yqtJDm"
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/102.0.3
Cancel-Lock: sha1:F23zG8q3feFw7c2T//7rTFEOCRc=
In-Reply-To: <u6nnft$1o6jv$1@dont-email.me>
Content-Language: en-US
 by: Mr. Man-wai Chang - Tue, 20 Jun 2023 08:49 UTC

On 19/6/2023 3:55 am, Paul wrote:
>
> This is what happened to me, when I was treated for back pain.
> I got no surgery, no pain killers, and "told to do yoga exercises".
> That was the sum total of my treatment. Big deal.
>
> Today, my spine does not bother me. Which is more than a bit
> weird. Yet, if I do the wrong thing, the pain comes back.
> Mine has become binary. I do not know if my taking vitamin
> D3 (as instructed by one of the doctors), has made any difference
> or not. My diagnosis is "wear" in the lower back. All of the
> materials I take, are the result of instructions from doctors.
> I did not make any of it up.

Did your job require you to bend your spine frequently?

I am growing older every day, this back problem might soon happen to me. :)

Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's SuperPC 2023 component videos...

<u6s8rg$2eud8$1@dont-email.me>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=1391&group=alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt#1391

 copy link   Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: nos...@needed.invalid (Paul)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Subject: Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's
SuperPC 2023 component videos...
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 09:16:32 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 66
Message-ID: <u6s8rg$2eud8$1@dont-email.me>
References: <dcea4945-f561-4f1a-a1d3-8c6df817b199n@googlegroups.com>
<u6k4r1$17ajb$2@toylet.eternal-september.org> <u6k8r0$1802n$1@dont-email.me>
<u6kj4f$19d28$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <u6ksvs$1amvp$1@dont-email.me>
<u6na0k$1mouq$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <u6nnft$1o6jv$1@dont-email.me>
<u6rp78$2dc1u$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 13:16:32 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="bdafa853170c74321977973d416f6f2f";
logging-data="2587048"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/zqarpsxdkgiQLyev3LAKhplzWBoyONVE="
User-Agent: Ratcatcher/2.0.0.25 (Windows/20130802)
Cancel-Lock: sha1:DMD0gMeofce2Vkle1XS3ZZ/uT6g=
Content-Language: en-US
In-Reply-To: <u6rp78$2dc1u$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
 by: Paul - Tue, 20 Jun 2023 13:16 UTC

On 6/20/2023 4:49 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 19/6/2023 3:55 am, Paul wrote:
>>
>> This is what happened to me, when I was treated for back pain.
>> I got no surgery, no pain killers, and "told to do yoga exercises".
>> That was the sum total of my treatment. Big deal.
>>
>> Today, my spine does not bother me. Which is more than a bit
>> weird. Yet, if I do the wrong thing, the pain comes back.
>> Mine has become binary. I do not know if my taking vitamin
>> D3 (as instructed by one of the doctors), has made any difference
>> or not. My diagnosis is "wear" in the lower back. All of the
>> materials I take, are the result of instructions from doctors.
>> I did not make any of it up.
>
> Did your job require you to bend your spine frequently?
>
> I am growing older every day, this back problem might soon happen to me. :)

Tall people have more back trouble than shorter people.

Our spine is an amazing design, but it does not scale forever.

# This is a silly advert, but it has a few tidbits

https://www.dallaschiropractor.com/blog/2018/08/20/dallas-chiropractor-11/

"One factor you cannot control is your height, and
tall individuals may be more susceptible to back pain."

"Whether short or tall, people all have the same number of vertebrates
in their spine. And therein lies the problem. We may all have the
same number, but taller people generally have vertebrates that are larger.
But the size increase may not necessarily be proportional in width, making
it harder for core muscles to resist the effects of those longer limbs and
levers."

You can ruin your back in a single afternoon.

Just so you know, that your back should be treated with respect.

If you have a job lifting stuff, it takes around six weeks for
your body to adjust to the load. And then the musculature offers
better protection against the activity.

One company here, insisted that new employees lift 150lb wooden
boxes filled with live lobsters. They tell me, the average new
employee would come to work at 8AM, and they would quit the
job and leave the building, by noon. That's because they were
in pain. And they would not come back to work. Done.

Nobody trains their body to handle 150 pound loads, and then
go looking for a job. As only that one company was stupid
enough to try this. At "regular" employers, they use fork lift
trucks for moving goods. Places I've worked, had a 50lb or
60lb limit, which is roughly an industry limit. Even with such
limits, emptying a tractor trailer or a 185 ton box car, is
exhausting work. The weight isn't that much, but the number
of repetitions of muscle movement, is huge. To empty the
185 ton box car, we formed a human chain, and threw the
load from person to person. Try doing *that* for 12 hours straight
(with a break for lunch...).

Not all my jobs were office work.

Paul

Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's SuperPC 2023 component videos...

<u6sep2$2fek5$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=1392&group=alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt#1392

 copy link   Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!toylet.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: toylet.t...@gmail.com (Mr. Man-wai Chang)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Subject: Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's
SuperPC 2023 component videos...
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 22:57:36 +0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 27
Message-ID: <u6sep2$2fek5$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
References: <dcea4945-f561-4f1a-a1d3-8c6df817b199n@googlegroups.com>
<u6k4r1$17ajb$2@toylet.eternal-september.org> <u6k8r0$1802n$1@dont-email.me>
<u6kj4f$19d28$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <u6ksvs$1amvp$1@dont-email.me>
<u6na0k$1mouq$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <u6nnft$1o6jv$1@dont-email.me>
<u6rp78$2dc1u$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <u6s8rg$2eud8$1@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 14:57:38 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: toylet.eternal-september.org; posting-host="7c151ad54d290ee0ef005af581bbaee3";
logging-data="2603653"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+on/o6gFgouu4hfjKtgC3i"
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/102.0.3
Cancel-Lock: sha1:oP3PGfoeYToLxZl3XZ8P/Fjy4i8=
In-Reply-To: <u6s8rg$2eud8$1@dont-email.me>
Content-Language: en-US
 by: Mr. Man-wai Chang - Tue, 20 Jun 2023 14:57 UTC

On 20/6/2023 9:16 pm, Paul wrote:
>
> Tall people have more back trouble than shorter people.

Tall people, or too-tall people? :)

> You can ruin your back in a single afternoon.
> Just so you know, that your back should be treated with respect.

Bad sitting posture can bend your spine as well, especially for kids
that're growing up. Kid hobbies (e.g. playing violin) that require you
to bend your neck can hurt your spine as well. Dangerous sports (e.g.
gymnastics) can hurt kids' spine as well.

> If you have a job lifting stuff, it takes around six weeks for
> your body to adjust to the load. And then the musculature offers
> better protection against the activity.

You need to keep your spine straight when lifting heavy objects.

> Not all my jobs were office work.

All my jobs did not require me to lift really heavy objects. But I sit
too much, though I kept my back straight when sitting. :)

Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's SuperPC 2023 component videos...

<u7b955$qij4$1@dont-email.me>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=1393&group=alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt#1393

 copy link   Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: nos...@needed.invalid (Paul)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Subject: Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's
SuperPC 2023 component videos...
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 01:53:40 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 105
Message-ID: <u7b955$qij4$1@dont-email.me>
References: <dcea4945-f561-4f1a-a1d3-8c6df817b199n@googlegroups.com>
<u6k4r1$17ajb$2@toylet.eternal-september.org> <u6k8r0$1802n$1@dont-email.me>
<u6kj4f$19d28$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <u6ksvs$1amvp$1@dont-email.me>
<u6na0k$1mouq$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <u6nnft$1o6jv$1@dont-email.me>
<a51a8c5b-64b9-4b15-911e-82338f8dde7fn@googlegroups.com>
<5bc31053-d207-4469-9f23-03ef95c1e1a2n@googlegroups.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 05:53:41 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="575f8ae491abbdc5ecc5335f4389f86c";
logging-data="871012"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18HnK1eUbzS1XaGtDmaaJsRMMUPr8aSPfA="
User-Agent: Ratcatcher/2.0.0.25 (Windows/20130802)
Cancel-Lock: sha1:7GtmFZOACnnJtXGxhOGk45tHV3o=
Content-Language: en-US
In-Reply-To: <5bc31053-d207-4469-9f23-03ef95c1e1a2n@googlegroups.com>
 by: Paul - Mon, 26 Jun 2023 05:53 UTC

On 6/26/2023 12:03 AM, Skybuck Flying wrote:
> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 4:49:30 AM UTC+2, Skybuck Flying wrote:
>> I worry it might be (incomplete) cauda syndrome.
>
> https://www.cortho.org/spine/cauda-equina-syndrome/
>
> according to this picture caudra is a bit higher.
>
> i think my hernia kinda moved from l4 l5 to l5 s1
>
> to me it seems l4 l5 heale and problems re appears one lower s1, just as i suspected when i bought chair, so far s1 seems less bad t have than l5, at least i can walk and sit somewhat
>
> i am considering uploading both mri scans old and new could be interesting, need some pain relief first and some sleep.
>
> bye for now.
> skybuck
>

My reaction to this idea, is it is like other professions.

If you read a hundred films over a ten hour day, and write
reports, how happy would you be to read some guys film
when you come home from work ? :-)

Then, there are the HIPPA legal issues, of dealing with
medical files in a public way. I don't know what trouble
people can get in, for doing that.

*******

When you have questions like this, these are questions for your
doctor. The doctor may be able to communicate with the
radiologist, to entertain such theories. I do not know
all the doctorly protocols, and the radiologist may call
this a "re-read", which implies he did not do his job
the first time. Or, the radiologist may log this as
a "consult" or consultation.

The way the system is supposed to work, is one doctor (the
General Practitioner), is your "advocate". They are supposed
to work the system, send referrals, requests for studies,
to others, then gather the results, and explain the results
to you in plain language.

Now, if the doctor you saw, really did not do a good job,
you can look for a second opinion. But do not do this,
with the expectation that "doctor #2 will say that
doctor #1 is a bad man".

Doctors do not say bad things about one another, because
that would shake your confidence in the medical profession.
Then, as a patient, you would not know which doctor to trust.

It's really easy, to tell the really bad doctors, from
the professional or inspired doctors. You don't have to be
in the medical system very long, to do the analysis.

For example, my very first doctor (GP) said "you have an
enlarged heart". All he did, was listen to the heart with
his stethoscope. He sent me for a chest XRay. The chest
XRay, the radiologist wrote on it "normal sized heart",
which it was. His first mistake, was opening his mouth.
What he should have said is "I'm sending you for an ordinary
chest XRay, so I can look at your heart". He could write
his suspicion on the requisition. He could write "Mr.Radiologist,
please check this patient for enlarged heart". Then, when
the negative result came back, he could revise his theory and
work on the next step in the "flow chart of heart problems".
When a test result is conclusive, it is at that point that
the doctor can give you the good or bad news. Doctors are
*not* supposed to "shoot from the hip".

To show you how the man earned a title of "bozo", when
he wrote up the requisition, he hand wrote it on a computer
tablet. He forgot to fill in the "reason for XRay" field
on the form! Like he was some sort of med student or something.
I had to drive back from the hospital XRay department, to the
clinic, and get the idiot to correct his mistake. Then drive
back to the hospital and get my "ordinary chest XRay". They
will *not* do a study, unless you write the reason for the
study in that box. If the box is blank, the radiologist
does not know what measurements to take, what analysis to apply.

*******

Talk to your doctor, the one running the show, if you
are still not feeling well. You can discuss what
kind of specialist would be best suited to do additional
analysis or treatment. And based on what your doctor says,
you can ask the doctor for a referral. The doctor may know
of several individuals who are best suited, and you pick
one of them. The doctor then writes up a referral for you.
The wait times can be quite variable.

To give an example, I had a skin condition related to my
blood pressure. I didn't realize it at the time, but the
doctor wrote up a referral for me. *Two years* later,
I get this phone call from the Dermatology Clinic :-)
By then of course, the skin condition was gone.
The name of the clinic ? "The Fast Access Dermatology Clinic".
Two years. Fast, my ass. This is why, if you ever have
a serious skin condition... you're doomed :-) It's because there
are not enough dermatologists and they're quite busy.

Paul

Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's SuperPC 2023 component videos...

<u7dm38$19r9l$1@dont-email.me>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=1397&group=alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt#1397

 copy link   Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: nos...@needed.invalid (Paul)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Subject: Re: I've been in incredible pain for 3 weeks since the Skybuck's
SuperPC 2023 component videos...
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 23:46:46 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 57
Message-ID: <u7dm38$19r9l$1@dont-email.me>
References: <dcea4945-f561-4f1a-a1d3-8c6df817b199n@googlegroups.com>
<u6k4r1$17ajb$2@toylet.eternal-september.org> <u6k8r0$1802n$1@dont-email.me>
<u6kj4f$19d28$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <u6ksvs$1amvp$1@dont-email.me>
<u6na0k$1mouq$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> <u6nnft$1o6jv$1@dont-email.me>
<a51a8c5b-64b9-4b15-911e-82338f8dde7fn@googlegroups.com>
<5bc31053-d207-4469-9f23-03ef95c1e1a2n@googlegroups.com>
<u7b955$qij4$1@dont-email.me>
<1552a86c-2c65-46c5-94c6-a5913d15c1a0n@googlegroups.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 03:46:48 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7597505ed12860960dd7a9eef0b3f0a1";
logging-data="1371445"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19JYKEkSEcntyxK4U6vCu/4bTdgcTzzExE="
User-Agent: Ratcatcher/2.0.0.25 (Windows/20130802)
Cancel-Lock: sha1:1mnN4p1xeEia1yW3JnhTMY+7QEc=
In-Reply-To: <1552a86c-2c65-46c5-94c6-a5913d15c1a0n@googlegroups.com>
Content-Language: en-US
 by: Paul - Tue, 27 Jun 2023 03:46 UTC

On 6/26/2023 9:46 PM, Skybuck Flying wrote:
> Your story is what I am experiencing now.
>
> I am afraid to talk to my docters.
>
> Especially about the sharp pain around my butthole/bottom/legs.
>
> Sometimes when I spread legs, even slighty, like just now lieing in bed or trying to sit.
>
> It feels like I rip mussles apart, a burning and tintelin sensation.
>
> I am also somewhat afraid of x-ray/radition dosis, especially down there.
>
> I am afraid the doctors will blame it on something else, like the hernia/canal stenosis and will refuse to research it any further, leading to more frustration for me and more confrontation with disbelieve on their side...
>
> I hope the bottom will heal, but I fear something might be broken off and cutting nerves down there, is that possible ?
>
> Bye for now,
> Skybuck
>

Go back to the doctor and ask about "soft tissue damage"
and the possibility a nerve got pinched.

The MRI cannot see everything.

As for Xray radiation and modern equipment, they can do amazing
things these days. In terms of beam control and dose. I don't know
anything about studies in that region of the body -- the MRI was
the safe method, but it does not show everything. By using gadolinium,
you can cause the blood flow to be visible in an MRI scan. But that's
about the sum total of my knowledge. I'm not a proctologist.

GP ---> internist ---> proctologist (butthole) [some referrals]

The reason the internist is in the picture, is he has the
list of specialists and knows which professional should be involved.

XRay doses have been reduced, as modern equipment gets better
at sensing. I have probably had a dosage equal to 300-400 Xrays
at the moment (after a while, I stopped counting). I don't expect
to last long enough, for this to matter :-) 300-400 is not likely
to start a cancer, unless I was cancer-prone in the first place
(like, lots of cancer deaths in the family).

Thus, when I get a chest XRay today, to me it matters about
as much as the side effects of an MRI. It's about as close to
zero as you can get. The chest XRay machine has a wide beam, because
the area being imaged is larger. The proctologist will likely
have a custom machine for this. As an example of a machine
with a narrow beam, modern dental XRay equipment would be
a bit narrower.

I don't know enough about soft-tissue imaging, to really help you.

Paul

1
server_pubkey.txt

rocksolid light 0.9.7
clearnet tor