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 by: Lewis - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 21:57 UTC

The M1 Ultra with UltraFusion sounds like something from a Marvel movie,
but this new chip kicks major ass. It makes the new Mac Studio
significantly faster than a 28 core Mac Pro, in a squat cube-ish cousin
of the Mac mini, featuring up to 128GB of RAM, 6 Thunderbolt ports, and
support for up to 4 27" "Apple Studio" Displays at 5K each, AND a 4K TV
at the same time.

You can get the entry level Mac Studio (with M1 Max) for $2000 or max it
out at $8000 (128GB RAM, 8TB SSD, M1 Ultra with 20 cores and 64 GPUs).
The 5K Apple Studio display is $1600 with a iMac style stand or VESA
mount. A ';floating" adjustable stand reminiscent of the G4 iMac or the
XDR display is a $400 option. It connects over Thunderbolt, has 3 USB-C
ports, a Center Stage camera and a speaker array that supports spatial
audio. Mine is arriving in a month.

For people wondering about the iMac Pro, this is it. A modular Mac, but
clearly a replacement for the iMac Pro. The 27" iMac that was still
available yesterday is no longer a product.

--
I've got a sonic screwdriver!
Yeah? I've got a chair!
.... Chairs *are* useful.

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 by: Alan Browne - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 22:38 UTC

On 2022-03-08 16:57, Lewis wrote:
> The M1 Ultra with UltraFusion sounds like something from a Marvel movie,

As I was watching I guessed it.

> but this new chip kicks major ass. It makes the new Mac Studio
> significantly faster than a 28 core Mac Pro, in a squat cube-ish cousin
> of the Mac mini, featuring up to 128GB of RAM, 6 Thunderbolt ports, and
> support for up to 4 27" "Apple Studio" Displays at 5K each, AND a 4K TV
> at the same time.

A lot more punch than I need. The Max will suffice. But - yes, quite
impressive - edge connecting two chips that way.

There's probably some engineer at intel yelling "I told ya it can be
done!!!"

> For people wondering about the iMac Pro, this is it. A modular Mac, but
> clearly a replacement for the iMac Pro.

Uhm, not so fast.
https://youtu.be/CUwg_JoNHpo?t=3490

--
Beginning in the 1970's, all birds in North America were replaced by
drones made to look and act like birds. By 2004, no real birds are to
be found. They are all drones. They all belong to the government.
They spy on everyone. All of the time. Birds are not real.

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 by: Alan - Tue, 8 Mar 2022 23:02 UTC

On 2022-03-08 2:38 p.m., Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2022-03-08 16:57, Lewis wrote:
>> The M1 Ultra with UltraFusion sounds like something from a Marvel movie,
>
> As I was watching I guessed it.
>
>> but this new chip kicks major ass. It makes the new Mac Studio
>> significantly faster than a 28 core Mac Pro, in a squat cube-ish cousin
>> of the Mac mini, featuring up to 128GB of RAM, 6 Thunderbolt ports, and
>> support for up to 4 27" "Apple Studio" Displays at 5K each, AND a 4K TV
>> at the same time.
>
> A lot more punch than I need.  The Max will suffice.  But - yes, quite
> impressive - edge connecting two chips that way.
>
> There's probably some engineer at intel yelling "I told ya it can be
> done!!!"
>
>> For people wondering about the iMac Pro, this is it. A modular Mac, but
>> clearly a replacement for the iMac Pro.
>
> Uhm, not so fast.
> https://youtu.be/CUwg_JoNHpo?t=3490
>

Ummmm...

....he [Lewis] said "/i/Mac Pro"...

....not "Mac Pro".

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 by: Alan Browne - Wed, 9 Mar 2022 01:07 UTC

On 2022-03-08 18:02, Alan wrote:
> On 2022-03-08 2:38 p.m., Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2022-03-08 16:57, Lewis wrote:
>>> The M1 Ultra with UltraFusion sounds like something from a Marvel movie,
>>
>> As I was watching I guessed it.
>>
>>> but this new chip kicks major ass. It makes the new Mac Studio
>>> significantly faster than a 28 core Mac Pro, in a squat cube-ish cousin
>>> of the Mac mini, featuring up to 128GB of RAM, 6 Thunderbolt ports, and
>>> support for up to 4 27" "Apple Studio" Displays at 5K each, AND a 4K TV
>>> at the same time.
>>
>> A lot more punch than I need.  The Max will suffice.  But - yes, quite
>> impressive - edge connecting two chips that way.
>>
>> There's probably some engineer at intel yelling "I told ya it can be
>> done!!!"
>>
>>> For people wondering about the iMac Pro, this is it. A modular Mac, but
>>> clearly a replacement for the iMac Pro.
>>
>> Uhm, not so fast.
>> https://youtu.be/CUwg_JoNHpo?t=3490
>>
>
> Ummmm...
>
> ...he [Lewis] said "/i/Mac Pro"...
>
> ...not "Mac Pro".

True enough - but still not a replacement for the iMac Pro. More to
come I 'spect.

--
Beginning in the 1970's, all birds in North America were replaced by
drones made to look and act like birds. By 2004, no real birds are to
be found. They are all drones. They all belong to the government.
They spy on everyone. All of the time. Birds are not real.

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 by: Alan - Wed, 9 Mar 2022 01:13 UTC

On 2022-03-08 5:07 p.m., Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2022-03-08 18:02, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-03-08 2:38 p.m., Alan Browne wrote:
>>> On 2022-03-08 16:57, Lewis wrote:
>>>> The M1 Ultra with UltraFusion sounds like something from a Marvel
>>>> movie,
>>>
>>> As I was watching I guessed it.
>>>
>>>> but this new chip kicks major ass. It makes the new Mac Studio
>>>> significantly faster than a 28 core Mac Pro, in a squat cube-ish cousin
>>>> of the Mac mini, featuring up to 128GB of RAM, 6 Thunderbolt ports, and
>>>> support for up to 4 27" "Apple Studio" Displays at 5K each, AND a 4K TV
>>>> at the same time.
>>>
>>> A lot more punch than I need.  The Max will suffice.  But - yes,
>>> quite impressive - edge connecting two chips that way.
>>>
>>> There's probably some engineer at intel yelling "I told ya it can be
>>> done!!!"
>>>
>>>> For people wondering about the iMac Pro, this is it. A modular Mac, but
>>>> clearly a replacement for the iMac Pro.
>>>
>>> Uhm, not so fast.
>>> https://youtu.be/CUwg_JoNHpo?t=3490
>>>
>>
>> Ummmm...
>>
>> ...he [Lewis] said "/i/Mac Pro"...
>>
>> ...not "Mac Pro".
>
> True enough - but still not a replacement for the iMac Pro.  More to
> come I 'spect.
>

Why wouldn't it be?

In what ways is it at all inferior to the iMac Pro?

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 by: Lewis - Wed, 9 Mar 2022 05:50 UTC

In message <eVQVJ.20431$d0Y8.14949@fx31.iad> Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
> On 2022-03-08 16:57, Lewis wrote:
>> The M1 Ultra with UltraFusion sounds like something from a Marvel movie,

> As I was watching I guessed it.

>> but this new chip kicks major ass. It makes the new Mac Studio
>> significantly faster than a 28 core Mac Pro, in a squat cube-ish cousin
>> of the Mac mini, featuring up to 128GB of RAM, 6 Thunderbolt ports, and
>> support for up to 4 27" "Apple Studio" Displays at 5K each, AND a 4K TV
>> at the same time.

> A lot more punch than I need. The Max will suffice. But - yes, quite
> impressive - edge connecting two chips that way.

> There's probably some engineer at intel yelling "I told ya it can be
> done!!!"

>> For people wondering about the iMac Pro, this is it. A modular Mac, but
>> clearly a replacement for the iMac Pro.

> Uhm, not so fast.
> https://youtu.be/CUwg_JoNHpo?t=3490

Assuming that is supposed to link to the "On more to come at a future
date"¹, that is the Mac Pro, not an iMac Pro.

¹ It links to the very end of the video.

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I hope this email finds you In another part of the world
I hope this email finds you Behind the wheel of a large automobile

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 by: Lewis - Wed, 9 Mar 2022 05:59 UTC

In message <05TVJ.57838$dln7.40275@fx03.iad> Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
> On 2022-03-08 18:02, Alan wrote:
>> On 2022-03-08 2:38 p.m., Alan Browne wrote:
>>> On 2022-03-08 16:57, Lewis wrote:
>>>> The M1 Ultra with UltraFusion sounds like something from a Marvel movie,
>>>
>>> As I was watching I guessed it.
>>>
>>>> but this new chip kicks major ass. It makes the new Mac Studio
>>>> significantly faster than a 28 core Mac Pro, in a squat cube-ish cousin
>>>> of the Mac mini, featuring up to 128GB of RAM, 6 Thunderbolt ports, and
>>>> support for up to 4 27" "Apple Studio" Displays at 5K each, AND a 4K TV
>>>> at the same time.
>>>
>>> A lot more punch than I need.  The Max will suffice.  But - yes, quite
>>> impressive - edge connecting two chips that way.
>>>
>>> There's probably some engineer at intel yelling "I told ya it can be
>>> done!!!"
>>>
>>>> For people wondering about the iMac Pro, this is it. A modular Mac, but
>>>> clearly a replacement for the iMac Pro.
>>>
>>> Uhm, not so fast.
>>> https://youtu.be/CUwg_JoNHpo?t=3490
>>>
>>
>> Ummmm...
>>
>> ...he [Lewis] said "/i/Mac Pro"...
>>
>> ...not "Mac Pro".

> True enough - but still not a replacement for the iMac Pro.

In what way?

Mac Studio
o Uses a Pro level chip
o Supports 128GB of RAM
o 6 TB and 2 USB-A
o 5K 27" display
o Gigabit Ethernet
o SD card reader
o Super fast SSD internal storage
iMac Pro
o Uses a Pro levl chip
o Supports 256GB of RAM
o 4 TB and 4 USB-A
o 5K 27" display
o 10 Ggabit Ethernet
o SD card reader
o Really fast SSD internal storage

> More to come I 'spect.

Maybe, but I seriously doubt it.

The next machine, and last, will be the Mac Pro (probably previewed at
WWDC).

The Mac Studio clearly covers the features and price range of the iMac
Pro.

--
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I
approved of it." - Mark Twain

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 by: Your Name - Wed, 9 Mar 2022 06:46 UTC

On 2022-03-09 01:13:53 +0000, Alan said:
> On 2022-03-08 5:07 p.m., Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2022-03-08 18:02, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2022-03-08 2:38 p.m., Alan Browne wrote:
>>>> On 2022-03-08 16:57, Lewis wrote:
>>>>> The M1 Ultra with UltraFusion sounds like something from a Marvel movie,
>>>>
>>>> As I was watching I guessed it.
>>>>
>>>>> but this new chip kicks major ass. It makes the new Mac Studio
>>>>> significantly faster than a 28 core Mac Pro, in a squat cube-ish cousin
>>>>> of the Mac mini, featuring up to 128GB of RAM, 6 Thunderbolt ports, and
>>>>> support for up to 4 27" "Apple Studio" Displays at 5K each, AND a 4K TV
>>>>> at the same time.
>>>>
>>>> A lot more punch than I need.  The Max will suffice.  But - yes, quite
>>>> impressive - edge connecting two chips that way.
>>>>
>>>> There's probably some engineer at intel yelling "I told ya it can be done!!!"
>>>>
>>>>> For people wondering about the iMac Pro, this is it. A modular Mac, but
>>>>> clearly a replacement for the iMac Pro.
>>>>
>>>> Uhm, not so fast.
>>>> https://youtu.be/CUwg_JoNHpo?t=3490
>>>
>>> Ummmm...
>>>
>>> ...he [Lewis] said "/i/Mac Pro"...
>>>
>>> ...not "Mac Pro".
>>
>> True enough - but still not a replacement for the iMac Pro.  More to
>> come I 'spect.
>
> Why wouldn't it be?
>
> In what ways is it at all inferior to the iMac Pro?

Some rumourmongers are saying the Mac Studio is the iMac Pro
replacement - largely based on the speaker saying there is only one
more Mac model to move off Silicon: the Mac Pro.

Other rumourmongers are saying a new iMac Pro *might* be announced at
the Developer's Conference.

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