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* News reader?db
+* Re: News reader?Ammammata
|`- Re: News reader?Ammammata
+* Re: News reader?rek2 hispagatos
|`* Re: News reader?Frank Slootweg
| `- Re: News reader?Marc SCHAEFER
+* Re: News reader?John
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+* Re: News reader?VanguardLH
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+- Re: News reader?Pepi
+- Re: News reader?Ralph Fox
+* Re: News reader?Jim the Geordie
|`* Re: News reader?VanguardLH
| `* Re: News reader?s|b
|  +- Re: News reader?William Unruh
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| `- Re: News reader?Adam H. Kerman
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| `* OT: Who replied to whom (was: News reader?)VanguardLH
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 by: db - Mon, 7 Aug 2023 13:46 UTC

I used to use pan and was happy with it, but it started acting
up about a year or so ago, so I can no longer use it. I switched
to Thunderbird (I work under Ubuntu Linux) and it's OK, but not
as nice, I feel.
Does anyone know what is wrong with pan?
What other news readers are recommended?
--
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 by: Ammammata - Mon, 7 Aug 2023 14:05 UTC

db pretended :
> What other news readers are recommended?

mesnews, but if you like oldies, there's xnews

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 by: rek2 hispagatos - Mon, 7 Aug 2023 14:48 UTC

On 2023-08-07, db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> wrote:
> I used to use pan and was happy with it, but it started acting
> up about a year or so ago, so I can no longer use it. I switched
> to Thunderbird (I work under Ubuntu Linux) and it's OK, but not
> as nice, I feel.
> Does anyone know what is wrong with pan?
> What other news readers are recommended?

I like TUI/CLI terminal apps so I use SLRN
but being helping a new email client called meli that supports
nntp/usenet

https://git.meli.delivery/meli/meli

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 by: John - Mon, 7 Aug 2023 16:20 UTC

db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> writes:

> I used to use pan and was happy with it, but it started acting
> up about a year or so ago, so I can no longer use it. I switched
> to Thunderbird (I work under Ubuntu Linux) and it's OK, but not
> as nice, I feel.
> Does anyone know what is wrong with pan?
> What other news readers are recommended?

You'd need to provide more info than "started acting up" if you want us
to debug pan... reminds me of the old favorite "it had a glitch!"

Anyway, I use Gnus, which is quite featureful but if you've never used
emacs before, it's probably not a good fit.

Claws can read news. I've only ever used it for email, but it does a
great job at that so maybe give it a shot?

john

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 by: VanguardLH - Mon, 7 Aug 2023 17:06 UTC

db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> wrote:

> I used to use pan and was happy with it, but it started acting up
> about a year or so ago, so I can no longer use it. I switched to
> Thunderbird (I work under Ubuntu Linux) and it's OK, but not as nice,
> I feel.

No one can help you on "started activing up" for pan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo_Z4KLhPfI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbmtxvF8Sz0

"not as nice" is also overtly vague to prevent anyone from addressing
what issues, if any, you have with Thunderbird other than unfamiliarity
which use over time will overcome. For help with Thunderbired, go to
the alt.comp.software.thunderbird newsgroup. Just be aware there are
some features in Thunderbird on Windows that are not doable under Linux.

> Does anyone know what is wrong with pan?

https://pan.rebelbase.com/

Click on the "bug reports" navbar link. That will reveal a link to
their GitHub project site where bugs are tracked.

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pan/-/issues?scope=all&utf8=%E2%9C%93&state=all

I didn't see a community/forum at the GitHub site to get peer support,
but there are forums back at the pan site which operate as mailing
lists. Be sure to be far more detailed there than you were here.

> What other news readers are recommended?

I don't use Linux for personal use, and haven't touched it for decades
at work. The ones I see others using on Linux are:

pan (no idea what's wrong with it for you)
Thunderbird (visit their newsgroup to get help)
Gnus
tin
Claws Mail
Sylpheed
slrn

And then there's using a Windows NNTP client running on WINE.

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 by: Pepi - Mon, 7 Aug 2023 18:32 UTC

On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 15:46:26 +0200, db wrote:

> to Thunderbird (I work under Ubuntu Linux) and it's OK, but not as nice,
> I feel.
> Does anyone know what is wrong with pan?
> What other news readers are recommended?

What's wrong with it? "Acting up" is not a very good error report.

Also, if you haven't, try running it from the command line to get more
errors from it:

$ pan --help
Pan 0.154

General Options
-h, --help Show this usage information and exit.
-v, --version Print release version and exit.
--verbose Be verbose (in non-GUI mode).
--debug Run in debug mode. Use --debug twice for
verbose debug.
--debug-ssl Run in TLS (aka SSL) debug mode.

URL Options
headers:group.name Download new headers for the specified
newsgroup.
news:message-id When specified together with --no-gui, dump
the message-id article to standard output.

NZB Batch Options
--nzb file1 file2 ... Process NZB files in non-GUI mode.
-o path, --output=path Path to save attachments listed in the NZB
file(s).
--no-gui Only show console output, not the download
queue.

The only problem I know there has been recently is where the filtering
feature got mangled by the correction of a bug by an over-enthusiastic
developer, so it created beautiful segmentation faults upon trying to
filter a group on a heap of systems, but sadly not all. It has been
corrected for about four or five months by now.

Works fine on Manjaro KDE Plasma, although there is a small bug with the
NZB feature, where downloaded NZB's leave behind a handful files in the
cache, so they get decoded anew when you get a new set of files. Not a
biggie, but somewhat annoying. That could also be a KDE problem, not sure.
I'm not a developer.

You could try and compile it yourself if the repo you use carries an older
version.

Good luck!

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 by: Ralph Fox - Mon, 7 Aug 2023 20:26 UTC

On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 15:46:26 +0200, db wrote:

> I used to use pan and was happy with it, but it started acting up about
> a year or so ago, so I can no longer use it.
> Does anyone know what is wrong with pan?

Pan from my distro's repository * is working here. I am posting this with
it.
* Linux Mint 21.2 Cinnamon 64-bit.
* Pan 0.149 "Bellevue".

> I switched to Thunderbird
> (I work under Ubuntu Linux) and it's OK, but not as nice, I feel.
> What other news readers are recommended?

Pan is based on Forté Agent and on Gravity. You might like Forté Agent.
Forté Agent runs under Wine on Linux.

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 by: Jim the Geordie - Mon, 7 Aug 2023 23:05 UTC

In article <uaqsji$2shkv$1@dont-email.me>, dieterhansbritz@gmail.com
says...
>
> I used to use pan and was happy with it, but it started acting
> up about a year or so ago, so I can no longer use it. I switched
> to Thunderbird (I work under Ubuntu Linux) and it's OK, but not
> as nice, I feel.
> Does anyone know what is wrong with pan?
> What other news readers are recommended?

Gravity, Dialog or Xnews.

--
Jim the Geordie

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 by: VanguardLH - Tue, 8 Aug 2023 06:29 UTC

Jim the Geordie <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:

> db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> SAID ...
>
>> I used to use pan and was happy with it, but it started acting up
>> about a year or so ago, so I can no longer use it. I switched to
>> Thunderbird (I work under Ubuntu Linux) and it's OK, but not as
>> nice, I feel. ^^^^^^^^^^^^____________.
>> Does anyone know what is wrong with pan? |
>> What other news readers are recommended? |
> |
> Gravity, Dialog or Xnews. |
|
Gravity: Windows. |
Dialog: Windows. |
Xnews: Windows. |
^^^^^
All are Windows programs. The OP said he is using Linux. Fox and I
mentioned he could use a Windows NNTP client under WINE on Linux, but
I'm not sure he wants to bother with that setup.

As I recall, Xnews does not support SSL, so you have to chain it through
sTunnel to make secure connects to NNTP servers. No support for UTF-8,
either. No official announcement Xnews was discontinued, but the web
site disappeared in 2014, and the program was already 5 years old by
then. You can find old copies of the Newsguy site for Xnews at
archive.web.com (I didn't bother to check if the download links still
worked), like:

https://web.archive.org/web/20141227184804/http://xnews.newsguy.com/

Long ago when I trialed Xnews, I reported some problems and some RFEs
(Requests for Enhancement). The author didn't care as he stated the
program was only designed for his use, he didn't care about its use by
other users although he made it available to others. He expressed no
interest in making his program fixed or better for others.

40tude Dialog got abandoned back in 2002, with 1 update in 2005 (don't
remember from who), and another bad update that made you go back to the
prior one. I use Dialog, but it won't natively run on Linux.

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 by: db - Tue, 8 Aug 2023 08:47 UTC

On 07.08.2023 18.20, John wrote:
> db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I used to use pan and was happy with it, but it started acting
>> up about a year or so ago, so I can no longer use it. I switched
>> to Thunderbird (I work under Ubuntu Linux) and it's OK, but not
>> as nice, I feel.
>> Does anyone know what is wrong with pan?
>> What other news readers are recommended?
>
> You'd need to provide more info than "started acting up" if you want us
> to debug pan... reminds me of the old favorite "it had a glitch!"
>
> Anyway, I use Gnus, which is quite featureful but if you've never used
> emacs before, it's probably not a good fit.
>
> Claws can read news. I've only ever used it for email, but it does a
> great job at that so maybe give it a shot?
>
>
> john
Well, you didn't really need to know in what way pan stopped working.
It just refused to show me anything, I got a blank screen. I wanted
to know whether others had problems with it.

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 by: db - Tue, 8 Aug 2023 08:50 UTC

On 07.08.2023 19.06, VanguardLH wrote:
> db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I used to use pan and was happy with it, but it started acting up
>> about a year or so ago, so I can no longer use it. I switched to
>> Thunderbird (I work under Ubuntu Linux) and it's OK, but not as nice,
>> I feel.
>
> No one can help you on "started activing up" for pan.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo_Z4KLhPfI
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbmtxvF8Sz0
>
> "not as nice" is also overtly vague to prevent anyone from addressing
> what issues, if any, you have with Thunderbird other than unfamiliarity
> which use over time will overcome. For help with Thunderbired, go to
> the alt.comp.software.thunderbird newsgroup. Just be aware there are
> some features in Thunderbird on Windows that are not doable under Linux.
>
>> Does anyone know what is wrong with pan?
>
> https://pan.rebelbase.com/
>
> Click on the "bug reports" navbar link. That will reveal a link to
> their GitHub project site where bugs are tracked.
>
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pan/-/issues?scope=all&utf8=%E2%9C%93&state=all
>
> I didn't see a community/forum at the GitHub site to get peer support,
> but there are forums back at the pan site which operate as mailing
> lists. Be sure to be far more detailed there than you were here.
>
>> What other news readers are recommended?
>
> I don't use Linux for personal use, and haven't touched it for decades
> at work. The ones I see others using on Linux are:
>
> pan (no idea what's wrong with it for you)
> Thunderbird (visit their newsgroup to get help)
> Gnus
> tin
> Claws Mail
> Sylpheed
> slrn
>
> And then there's using a Windows NNTP client running on WINE.
Thank you, I will look up Gnus. Emacs is the editor I use.
As for what's wrong with pan, it just gives me a blank screen. I had
to give up on it. I only wanted to know whether others had problems
with it.
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Dieter Britz

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 by: Ammammata - Tue, 8 Aug 2023 09:27 UTC

Ammammata brought next idea :
> db pretended :
>> What other news readers are recommended?
>
> mesnews, but if you like oldies, there's xnews

forgot to say: try them with wine

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 by: Frank Slootweg - Tue, 8 Aug 2023 10:34 UTC

rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> wrote:
> On 2023-08-07, db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I used to use pan and was happy with it, but it started acting
> > up about a year or so ago, so I can no longer use it. I switched
> > to Thunderbird (I work under Ubuntu Linux) and it's OK, but not
> > as nice, I feel.
> > Does anyone know what is wrong with pan?
> > What other news readers are recommended?
>
> I like TUI/CLI terminal apps so I use SLRN

Same preference. I use tin: <http://tin.org>. I'm sure there's a ready
to use package for your (DB) distro. (I use tin 'under' Cygwin - a
Linux/GNU environment - on Windows.)

[...]

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 by: s|b - Tue, 8 Aug 2023 11:13 UTC

On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 01:29:42 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:

> Gravity: Windows. |
> Dialog: Windows. |
> Xnews: Windows. |
> ^^^^^
> All are Windows programs. The OP said he is using Linux.

So he can use Wine.

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s|b

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 by: Marc SCHAEFER - Tue, 8 Aug 2023 13:36 UTC

On Tue, 08 Aug 2023 12:34:03, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> Same preference. I use tin: <http://tin.org>. I'm sure there's a ready
> to use package for your (DB) distro. (I use tin 'under' Cygwin - a
> Linux/GNU environment - on Windows.)

I use tin on Debian and also on my Android (via termux ssh, did not try
to cross-compile it yet).

--
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 by: RonB - Tue, 8 Aug 2023 14:39 UTC

On 2023-08-07, db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> wrote:
> I used to use pan and was happy with it, but it started acting
> up about a year or so ago, so I can no longer use it. I switched
> to Thunderbird (I work under Ubuntu Linux) and it's OK, but not
> as nice, I feel.
> Does anyone know what is wrong with pan?
> What other news readers are recommended?

I used to use Pan, I now use slrn. Basicly the same scoring system. Mostly I
chose it because I can use Jstar (JOE) as my editor and I don't have to use
the mouse.

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-- Archbishop Charles J. Chaput

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On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 15:46:26 +0200, db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> wrote in
<uaqsji$2shkv$1@dont-email.me>:

> I used to use pan and was happy with it, but it started acting up about
> a year or so ago, so I can no longer use it.

I use pan on my Linux desktop at home. It does have bugs, which
haven't bothered me enough to brush off my gdb skills from yore.

Glad to see your post. What did you see in pan?

(I get occasional freezing. Also, it doesn't
handle long Newsgroups: lines properly.)

> I switched to Thunderbird
> (I work under Ubuntu Linux) and it's OK, but not as nice, I feel.
> Does anyone know what is wrong with pan?
> What other news readers are recommended?

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On 2023-08-08, s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 01:29:42 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> Gravity: Windows. |
>> Dialog: Windows. |
>> Xnews: Windows. |
>> ^^^^^
>> All are Windows programs. The OP said he is using Linux.

>
> So he can use Wine.
>
Just silly. Pasting on a huge extra layer, just to read news.

slrn and alpine can both read and display news. Both are text based, not
graphics, I do not use gui for news reaer but there are lots of gui news
readers as well.

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 by: VanguardLH - Tue, 8 Aug 2023 17:49 UTC

s|b <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> Gravity: Windows. |
>> Dialog: Windows. |
>> Xnews: Windows. |
>> ^^^^^
>> All are Windows programs. The OP said he is using Linux.
>
> So he can use Wine.

Which I mentioned TWICE before your reply which you conveniently snipped
out my mention of WINE. Mentioned WINE in my 1st reply to the OP, and
again in my reply to Geordie (that you snipped). You're just
duplicating what Fox and I already said. We'll have to wait to see if
the OP is willing to use a Windows NNTP client atop of WINE. The NNTP
client will run slower using WINE, but performance may not matter,
especially if the OP is visiting text-only newsgroup. Might incur
longer waits if the OP is visiting binaries, and configures the NNTP
client to download all new messages instead of just those he selects to
read. We don't know if the purpose for the OP is to just read text
newsgroups, or also do binaries.

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On 2023-08-08, 😉 Good Guy 😉 <Hello.World@example.onion> wrote:
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> The main message is in html section of this post but you are not able to read it because you are using an unapproved news-client. Please try these links to amuse youself:
>

hilarious!

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 by: Marco Moock - Tue, 8 Aug 2023 19:22 UTC

Am 07.08.2023 um 15:46:26 Uhr schrieb db:

> Does anyone know what is wrong with pan?

I remember it had a bug with a header, but it is fixed in current
versions.

Have you tried it again?

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 by: issdr - Wed, 9 Aug 2023 05:16 UTC

johnson wrote:

> On 2023-08-08, 😉 Good Guy 😉 <Hello.World@example.onion> wrote:
>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>> --------------1C8219F6C2634BC99B4086F8
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>>
>>
>> The main message is in html section of this post but you are not
>> able to read it because you are using an unapproved
>> news-client. Please try these links to amuse youself:
>>
>
> hilarious!

yeah. i copy s/flowed/flawed/

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 by: johnson - Wed, 9 Aug 2023 08:28 UTC

On 2023-08-09, issdr <p_u_n_k_i_n_d@yahoo.it> wrote:
> johnson wrote:
>
>> On 2023-08-08, 😉 Good Guy 😉 <Hello.World@example.onion> wrote:
>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>>> --------------1C8219F6C2634BC99B4086F8
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>>
>>>
>>> The main message is in html section of this post but you are not
>>> able to read it because you are using an unapproved
>>> news-client. Please try these links to amuse youself:
>>>
>>
>> hilarious!
>
> yeah. i copy s/flowed/flawed/

haha: good one!

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From: ahk...@chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman)
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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Wed, 9 Aug 2023 17:28 UTC

issdr <p_u_n_k_i_n_d@yahoo.it> wrote:
>johnson wrote:
>>On 2023-08-08, Good Guy <Hello.World@example.onion> wrote:

>>>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>>>--------------1C8219F6C2634BC99B4086F8
>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

>>>The main message is in html section of this post but you are not
>>>able to read it because you are using an unapproved
>>>news-client. Please try these links to amuse youself:

>>hilarious!

>yeah. i copy s/flowed/flawed/

Hahahahahahahahahaha

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 by: Sam - Wed, 9 Aug 2023 23:17 UTC

On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 15:46:26 +0200, db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> wrote:

>I used to use pan and was happy with it, but it started acting
>up about a year or so ago, so I can no longer use it. I switched
>to Thunderbird (I work under Ubuntu Linux) and it's OK, but not
>as nice, I feel.
>Does anyone know what is wrong with pan?
>What other news readers are recommended?
>--

You can install WINE in Linux Ubuntu and use Forte Agent reliably, but
you can't use SSL connections for NNTP and POP3 connections. The last free
edition of Forte Agent is 3.3. You can buy version 8.00 for $29.00 and get
monthly access to NNTP for $2.95 per month with up to 25 GB of data
access.

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