Guess a lot of Maccies got their shiny new laptops and did not need two?

Very predicable.

https://finance-yahoo-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/apple-40-plunge-pc-shipments-043700361.html?amp_js_v=0.1#webview=1&cap=swipe

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 7:27:46 AM UTC-4, Thomas E. wrote:
> Guess a lot of Maccies got their shiny new laptops and did not need two?
>
> Very predicable.
>
> https://finance-yahoo-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/apple-40-plunge-pc-shipments-043700361.html?amp_js_v=0.1#webview=1&cap=swipe

Took awhile to track down, but this appears to be a YoY metric, not QoQ.

So while 2023 is down by 40%, the longer term questions are what’s
been the recent trend, and to what degree is this a affected by the
discontinuity from Intel to Apple CPU adoption..

1Q2023: 4.1M. -40%
1Q2022: 6.9M (flat)
1Q2021: 6.7M +111%
1Q2020: 3.16M

Despite a lot of noise, that’s still roughly a +10%/yr trend. Really need
more than just one (so far) datapoint before declaring a new trend.

More Q’s here:
< https://www.statista.com/statistics/263444/sales-of-apple-mac-computers-since-first-quarter-2006/>

-hh

On 2023-04-10 04:27, Thomas E. wrote:
> Guess a lot of Maccies got their shiny new laptops and did not need two?
>
> Very predicable.
>
> https://finance-yahoo-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/apple-40-plunge-pc-shipments-043700361.html?amp_js_v=0.1#webview=1&cap=swipe

Indeed.

So why bother bringing it up, Little Shit?

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 12:56:39 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 7:27:46 AM UTC-4, Thomas E. wrote:
> > Guess a lot of Maccies got their shiny new laptops and did not need two?
> >
> > Very predicable.
> >
> > https://finance-yahoo-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/apple-40-plunge-pc-shipments-043700361.html?amp_js_v=0.1#webview=1&cap=swipe
> Took awhile to track down, but this appears to be a YoY metric, not QoQ.
>
> So while 2023 is down by 40%, the longer term questions are what’s
> been the recent trend, and to what degree is this a affected by the
> discontinuity from Intel to Apple CPU adoption..
>
> 1Q2023: 4.1M. -40%
> 1Q2022: 6.9M (flat)
> 1Q2021: 6.7M +111%
> 1Q2020: 3.16M
>
> Despite a lot of noise, that’s still roughly a +10%/yr trend. Really need
> more than just one (so far) datapoint before declaring a new trend.
>
> More Q’s here:
> < https://www.statista.com/statistics/263444/sales-of-apple-mac-computers-since-first-quarter-2006/>
>
> -hh

Another look, took about 15 minutes to find

Q1 Mac Shipments, IDC
Year Units Share
2023 4.1 7.2%
2022 7.2 8.6%
2021 6.9 8.1%
2020 3.1 5.8%
2019 3.7 6.6%

Q1 Mac Shipments, Gartner
Year Units Share
2023 4.8 8.7%
2022 7.3 9.3%
2021 7.7 8.6%
2020 3.8 7.1%
2019 3.8 6.4%

Agreed, we need another year to say it's a trend. However, the headline is that Mac sales fell more than the overall market, share dropped. The Statistica Mac data do not account for overall market size.

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 3:34:27 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-04-10 04:27, Thomas E. wrote:
> > Guess a lot of Maccies got their shiny new laptops and did not need two?
> >
> > Very predicable.
> >
> > https://finance-yahoo-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/apple-40-plunge-pc-shipments-043700361.html?amp_js_v=0.1#webview=1&cap=swipe
> Indeed.
>
> So why bother bringing it up, Little Shit?

Because it's interesting to me, little shit.

On 4/13/2023 4:07 AM, Thomas E. wrote:

<snip>

> Agreed, we need another year to say it's a trend. However, the headline is that Mac sales fell more than the overall market, share dropped. The Statistica Mac data do not account for overall market size.

What matters is profit, not market share. Apple has never been that
interested in expanding the market share of Macs.

With the move to their own silicon, Apple wrote off a lot of users that
used to be able to dual-boot MacOS and Windows and that required Windows
because the applications that they used have no MacOS version, or a
limited functionality MacOS version. The applications I see like this
the most are Solidworks, Cadence, Autocad (Mac version available but
limited functionality), and Altium. We also use Statistica which is
Windows-only. Look at the recommendations for computers that
universities publish. If you're in a technical field they will
inevitably tell you not to buy a Mac. This is not good for Apple in
terms of getting users into the Apple ecosystem.

No doubt Apple was aware that the move to their own silicon would have
side effects and determined that the cost savings of moving away from
x86, as well as other benefits like thermals and power consumption,
outweighed the lost market share.

Macs are great for some things, but if you're in a technical,
scientific, programming, data analysis, medical, or research field then
you can't really get away from Windows.

--
“If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 5:24:48 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
> On 4/13/2023 4:07 AM, Thomas E. wrote:
>
> <snip>
> > Agreed, we need another year to say it's a trend. However, the headline is that Mac sales fell more than the overall market, share dropped. The Statistica Mac data do not account for overall market size.
> What matters is profit, not market share. Apple has never been that
> interested in expanding the market share of Macs.
>
> With the move to their own silicon, Apple wrote off a lot of users that
> used to be able to dual-boot MacOS and Windows and that required Windows
> because the applications that they used have no MacOS version, or a
> limited functionality MacOS version. The applications I see like this
> the most are Solidworks, Cadence, Autocad (Mac version available but
> limited functionality), and Altium. We also use Statistica which is
> Windows-only. Look at the recommendations for computers that
> universities publish. If you're in a technical field they will
> inevitably tell you not to buy a Mac. This is not good for Apple in
> terms of getting users into the Apple ecosystem.
>
> No doubt Apple was aware that the move to their own silicon would have
> side effects and determined that the cost savings of moving away from
> x86, as well as other benefits like thermals and power consumption,
> outweighed the lost market share.
>
> Macs are great for some things, but if you're in a technical,
> scientific, programming, data analysis, medical, or research field then
> you can't really get away from Windows.
>
> --
> “If you are not an expert on a subject, then your opinions about it
> really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
> indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
> they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

You can dual-boot licensed W11 via Parallels.