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* This week's silly question.Woody
+* This week's silly question.S Viemeister
|`* This week's silly question.Mark Carver
| `- This week's silly question.Nick Finnigan
`* This week's silly question.Abandoned_Trolley
 `* This week's silly question.Woody
  +- This week's silly question.Abandoned_Trolley
  +- This week's silly question.Chris in Makati
  `- This week's silly question.notya...@gmail.com

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This week's silly question.

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From: harroga...@ntlworld.com (Woody)
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Subject: This week's silly question.
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 09:59:39 +0100
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 by: Woody - Mon, 21 Aug 2023 08:59 UTC

In the latest (and I think previous) advert for Sky Mobile the female
doing the talking refers to
"....99% network coverage....."

Is this just another piece of advertising 'jargon' written by someone
who hasn't a clue what it is about or have they discovered a new way of
measuring usage statistics?

I know where my money sits!

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From: firstn...@lastname.oc.ku (S Viemeister)
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Subject: Re: This week's silly question.
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 by: S Viemeister - Mon, 21 Aug 2023 10:06 UTC

On 21/08/2023 09:59, Woody wrote:
> In the latest (and I think previous) advert for Sky Mobile the female
> doing the talking refers to
> "....99% network coverage....."
>
> Is this just another piece of advertising 'jargon' written by someone
> who hasn't a clue what it is about or have they discovered a new way of
> measuring usage statistics?
>
I believe they are referring to 99% of the _population_, not 99% of the
land area.
But I could be wrong.

> I know where my money sits!

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 by: Mark Carver - Mon, 21 Aug 2023 10:20 UTC

On 21/08/2023 11:06, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 21/08/2023 09:59, Woody wrote:
>> In the latest (and I think previous) advert for Sky Mobile the female
>> doing the talking refers to
>> "....99% network coverage....."
>>
>> Is this just another piece of advertising 'jargon' written by someone
>> who hasn't a clue what it is about or have they discovered a new way
>> of measuring usage statistics?
>>
> I believe they are referring to 99% of the _population_, not 99% of
> the land area.
> But I could be wrong.
It will be, and it's whatever 02 claim, Sky rent space on there, they
don't have their own network (obvs)

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From: nix...@genie.co.uk (Nick Finnigan)
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Subject: Re: This week's silly question.
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 by: Nick Finnigan - Mon, 21 Aug 2023 10:31 UTC

On 21/08/2023 11:20, Mark Carver wrote:
> On 21/08/2023 11:06, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 21/08/2023 09:59, Woody wrote:
>>> In the latest (and I think previous) advert for Sky Mobile the female
>>> doing the talking refers to
>>> "....99% network coverage....."
>>>
>>> Is this just another piece of advertising 'jargon' written by someone
>>> who hasn't a clue what it is about or have they discovered a new way of
>>> measuring usage statistics?
>>>
>> I believe they are referring to 99% of the _population_, not 99% of the
>> land area.
>> But I could be wrong.
> It will be, and it's whatever 02 claim, Sky rent space on there, they don't
> have their own network (obvs)

"We are proud to say that over 99% of the UK population can get access to
our 4G network, no matter where they live or work"
... but may need to be outside to get access.

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From: fre...@fred-smith.co.uk (Abandoned_Trolley)
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 by: Abandoned_Trolley - Mon, 21 Aug 2023 11:18 UTC

> Is this just another piece of advertising 'jargon' written by someone
> who hasn't a clue what it is about or have they discovered a new way of
> measuring usage statistics?

In the context of "silly questions" perhaps somebody could explain the
connection between usage statistics and network coverage ?

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From: harroga...@ntlworld.com (Woody)
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Subject: Re: This week's silly question.
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 15:20:51 +0100
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 by: Woody - Mon, 21 Aug 2023 14:20 UTC

On Mon 21/08/2023 12:18, Abandoned_Trolley wrote:
>
>
>> Is this just another piece of advertising 'jargon' written by someone
>> who hasn't a clue what it is about or have they discovered a new way
>> of measuring usage statistics?
>
> In the context of "silly questions" perhaps somebody could explain the
> connection between usage statistics and network coverage ?
>
>
>

But that's the whole point. Cellular coverage is measured in percent
population - which is NOTHING like geographical coverage!

But how can you have 99% of network coverage? You either get 100% of the
network or none of the network. If you can only get 99% where is the
other 1%? Out of service, reserved for someone, what?

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 by: Abandoned_Trolley - Mon, 21 Aug 2023 15:26 UTC

On 21/08/2023 15:20, Woody wrote:

> Cellular coverage is measured in percent population

and usage statistics are not ...

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 by: Chris in Makati - Mon, 21 Aug 2023 20:37 UTC

On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 15:20:51 +0100, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

>On Mon 21/08/2023 12:18, Abandoned_Trolley wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Is this just another piece of advertising 'jargon' written by someone
>>> who hasn't a clue what it is about or have they discovered a new way
>>> of measuring usage statistics?
>>
>> In the context of "silly questions" perhaps somebody could explain the
>> connection between usage statistics and network coverage ?
>>
>>
>>
>
>But that's the whole point. Cellular coverage is measured in percent
>population - which is NOTHING like geographical coverage!
>
>But how can you have 99% of network coverage? You either get 100% of the
>network or none of the network. If you can only get 99% where is the
>other 1%? Out of service, reserved for someone, what?

You said the ad claimed "....99% network coverage.....". Did the say
that or did they say "99% of network coverage"

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 by: notya...@gmail.com - Tue, 22 Aug 2023 11:39 UTC

On Monday, 21 August 2023 at 15:20:55 UTC+1, Woody split hairs and wrote:
> On Mon 21/08/2023 12:18, Abandoned_Trolley wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Is this just another piece of advertising 'jargon' written by someone
> >> who hasn't a clue what it is about or have they discovered a new way
> >> of measuring usage statistics?
> >
> > In the context of "silly questions" perhaps somebody could explain the
> > connection between usage statistics and network coverage ?
> >
> >
> >
> But that's the whole point. Cellular coverage is measured in percent
> population - which is NOTHING like geographical coverage!
>
> But how can you have 99% of network coverage? You either get 100% of the
> network or none of the network. If you can only get 99% where is the
> other 1%? Out of service, reserved for someone, what?

99% of the population are within network coverage.

Obviously there will be sparsely populated areas with minimal or no network availability.

Lemma - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverie, the most remote village in Great Britain, Knoydart and only accessible by hike or boat has good coverage on three networks...

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