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2Q preliminary (probably) results:

< https://9to5mac.com/2023/07/11/mac-shipments-grow-10-percent/>

-hh

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 by: Alan - Tue, 11 Jul 2023 22:54 UTC

On 2023-07-11 14:39, -hh wrote:
> 2Q preliminary (probably) results:
>
> < https://9to5mac.com/2023/07/11/mac-shipments-grow-10-percent/>
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> -hh

Is Apple officially "beleaguered" again?

:-)

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 by: rabidPedagog - Wed, 12 Jul 2023 12:10 UTC

On 2023-07-11 6:54 p.m., Alan wrote:
> On 2023-07-11 14:39, -hh wrote:
>> 2Q preliminary (probably) results:
>>
>> < https://9to5mac.com/2023/07/11/mac-shipments-grow-10-percent/>
>>
>> -hh
>
> Is Apple officially "beleaguered" again?
>
> :-)

I wouldn't be surprised if more people out there got fed up of buying PC
hardware as a result of Windows updates rendering their machines
unbootable or hardware simply dying for no reason as it often does. It's
hard not to turn your eye toward Apple when you see that your AirPods
seamlessly connect, that wireless connectivity is always reliable, that
keyboards generally feel nice to type on, that battery life is stellar,
that the screen is gorgeous, that it always wakes after sleep, etc..
Other than gaming, there's no real selling point to having a PC over a
Mac anymore.

--
rabidPedagog
TG: @rabidPedagog
Galatians 6:7

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 by: Thomas E. - Fri, 4 Aug 2023 23:56 UTC

On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 5:39:56 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
> 2Q preliminary (probably) results:
>
> < https://9to5mac.com/2023/07/11/mac-shipments-grow-10-percent/>
>
> -hh

Well, why did Apple just report Q3 a 7% decline in Mac $sales????

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 by: Bob Campbell - Sat, 5 Aug 2023 04:00 UTC

Thomas E. <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 5:39:56 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
>> 2Q preliminary (probably) results:
>>
>> < https://9to5mac.com/2023/07/11/mac-shipments-grow-10-percent/>
>>
>> -hh
>
> Well, why did Apple just report Q3 a 7% decline in Mac $sales????

Well, why did Microsoft just report a 20% decline in Surface $sales?

“Microsoft has reported today that the company is continuing to the feel
the sting of the shrinking PC market …. According to Microsoft, Windows OEM
revenue decreased by 12% while Devices, which refers to Surface products,
was down 20% or $339 million”.

<https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/microsoft-reports-20-decrease-in-revenue-for-surface-and-windows-products>

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 by: RabidPedagog - Sun, 6 Aug 2023 00:46 UTC

On 2023-08-05 12:00 a.m., Bob Campbell wrote:
> Thomas E. <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 5:39:56 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
>>> 2Q preliminary (probably) results:
>>>
>>> < https://9to5mac.com/2023/07/11/mac-shipments-grow-10-percent/>
>>>
>>> -hh
>>
>> Well, why did Apple just report Q3 a 7% decline in Mac $sales????
>
> Well, why did Microsoft just report a 20% decline in Surface $sales?
>
> “Microsoft has reported today that the company is continuing to the feel
> the sting of the shrinking PC market …. According to Microsoft, Windows OEM
> revenue decreased by 12% while Devices, which refers to Surface products,
> was down 20% or $339 million”.
>
> <https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/microsoft-reports-20-decrease-in-revenue-for-surface-and-windows-products>

The reality is that people are holding onto their computers for longer
because machines don't need to be upgraded every two or three years like
in the 80s to 2000s. In many cases, even when an upgrade is strongly
recommended, people opt to install Linux (by themselves or with the help
of a friend) because buying a new machine is mostly pointless when most
of what you do gets done on a smartphone.

--
RabidPedagog
TG: @RabidPedagog
Galatians 6:7

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 by: Bob Campbell - Sun, 6 Aug 2023 19:31 UTC

RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
> On 2023-08-05 12:00 a.m., Bob Campbell wrote:
>> Thomas E. <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 5:39:56 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
>>>> 2Q preliminary (probably) results:
>>>>
>>>> < https://9to5mac.com/2023/07/11/mac-shipments-grow-10-percent/>
>>>>
>>>> -hh
>>>
>>> Well, why did Apple just report Q3 a 7% decline in Mac $sales????
>>
>> Well, why did Microsoft just report a 20% decline in Surface $sales?
>>
>> “Microsoft has reported today that the company is continuing to the feel
>> the sting of the shrinking PC market …. According to Microsoft, Windows OEM
>> revenue decreased by 12% while Devices, which refers to Surface products,
>> was down 20% or $339 million”.
>>
>> <https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/microsoft-reports-20-decrease-in-revenue-for-surface-and-windows-products>
>
> The reality is that people are holding onto their computers for longer
> because machines don't need to be upgraded every two or three years like
> in the 80s to 2000s. In many cases, even when an upgrade is strongly
> recommended, people opt to install Linux (by themselves or with the help
> of a friend) because buying a new machine is mostly pointless when most
> of what you do gets done on a smartphone.

Correct. Which explains why Windows PC sales have been declining for 10
years.

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 by: RabidPedagog - Mon, 7 Aug 2023 01:23 UTC

On 2023-08-06 3:31 p.m., Bob Campbell wrote:
> RabidPedagog <rabid@pedag.og> wrote:
>> On 2023-08-05 12:00 a.m., Bob Campbell wrote:
>>> Thomas E. <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 5:39:56 PM UTC-4, -hh wrote:
>>>>> 2Q preliminary (probably) results:
>>>>>
>>>>> < https://9to5mac.com/2023/07/11/mac-shipments-grow-10-percent/>
>>>>>
>>>>> -hh
>>>>
>>>> Well, why did Apple just report Q3 a 7% decline in Mac $sales????
>>>
>>> Well, why did Microsoft just report a 20% decline in Surface $sales?
>>>
>>> “Microsoft has reported today that the company is continuing to the feel
>>> the sting of the shrinking PC market …. According to Microsoft, Windows OEM
>>> revenue decreased by 12% while Devices, which refers to Surface products,
>>> was down 20% or $339 million”.
>>>
>>> <https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/microsoft-reports-20-decrease-in-revenue-for-surface-and-windows-products>
>>
>> The reality is that people are holding onto their computers for longer
>> because machines don't need to be upgraded every two or three years like
>> in the 80s to 2000s. In many cases, even when an upgrade is strongly
>> recommended, people opt to install Linux (by themselves or with the help
>> of a friend) because buying a new machine is mostly pointless when most
>> of what you do gets done on a smartphone.
>
> Correct. Which explains why Windows PC sales have been declining for 10
> years.

Yeah, I would imagine that the only people constantly upgrading their
hardware are the ones using their PC to play games. If games are not
your thing, there is truly no incentive to buying new hardware. Some
professionals need more RAM and processing power for video editing or
programming, but that's hardly the majority of people.

--
RabidPedagog
TG: @RabidPedagog
Galatians 6:7

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