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* Noticed an address change on Eternal-SeptemberPaul
+* Re: Noticed an address change on Eternal-September...winston
|`* Re: Noticed an address change on Eternal-September...winston
| `* Re: Noticed an address change on Eternal-SeptemberPaul
|  `- Re: Noticed an address change on Eternal-September....winston
+- Re: Noticed an address change on Eternal-SeptemberJJ
`- Re: Noticed an address change on Eternal-SeptemberMarco Moock

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Noticed an address change on Eternal-September

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From: nos...@needed.invalid (Paul)
Newsgroups: alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Noticed an address change on Eternal-September
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 by: Paul - Sun, 22 Oct 2023 08:32 UTC

The following, may make it look like "E-S is down".

It is not. It is working.

However, at the moment, I see this.

The news server has only an IPV6 address (and Teredo no longer exists, for the most part).

PS C:\Users > nslookup news.eternal-september.org

Name: news.eternal-september.org
Address: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2

Whereas the web server still has the normal IPV4/IPV6 assignment look to it.

PS C:\Users > nslookup www.eternal-september.org

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: news.eternal-september.org
Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
135.181.20.170
Aliases: www.eternal-september.org

It's not clear whether both will transition to the same setup, or not.

*******

Do not panic and try and "rewire" E-S in any way.
You can make an awful mess, if you "try to fix it the obvious way".

Editing the HOSTS file is probably safer (add an IPV4 entry if you're IPV4 only),
just don't mod Thunderbird server settings for example.

Let's give Ray a chance to respond in eternal-september.support .

It can take a day to a day and a half, for a DNS change to propagate
world wide, if this setup changes again.

Paul

Re: Noticed an address change on Eternal-September

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From: winston...@gmail.com (...winston)
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Subject: Re: Noticed an address change on Eternal-September
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In-Reply-To: <uh28la$28ang$1@dont-email.me>
 by: ...winston - Sun, 22 Oct 2023 05:43 UTC

Paul wrote:
> The following, may make it look like "E-S is down".
>
> It is not. It is working.
>
> However, at the moment, I see this.
>
> The news server has only an IPV6 address (and Teredo no longer exists, for the most part).
>
> PS C:\Users > nslookup news.eternal-september.org
>
> Name: news.eternal-september.org
> Address: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
>
> Whereas the web server still has the normal IPV4/IPV6 assignment look to it.
>
> PS C:\Users > nslookup www.eternal-september.org
>
> Non-authoritative answer:
> Name: news.eternal-september.org
> Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
> 135.181.20.170
> Aliases: www.eternal-september.org
>
> It's not clear whether both will transition to the same setup, or not.
>
> *******
>
> Do not panic and try and "rewire" E-S in any way.
> You can make an awful mess, if you "try to fix it the obvious way".
>
> Editing the HOSTS file is probably safer (add an IPV4 entry if you're IPV4 only),
> just don't mod Thunderbird server settings for example.
>
> Let's give Ray a chance to respond in eternal-september.support .
>
> It can take a day to a day and a half, for a DNS change to propagate
> world wide, if this setup changes again.
>
> Paul
>

PS
nslookup news.eternal-september.org
Name: news.eternal-september.org
Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
135.181.20.170

nslookup www.eternal-september.org
Name: news.eternal-september.org
Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
135.181.20.170
Aliases: www.eternal-september.org

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....w¡ñ§±¤ñ

Re: Noticed an address change on Eternal-September

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From: winston...@gmail.com (...winston)
Newsgroups: alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject: Re: Noticed an address change on Eternal-September
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 by: ...winston - Sun, 22 Oct 2023 05:49 UTC

p.s. Clock or Timeserver problem at your end or Eternal Sept problem?

The message time stamp of my reply is accurate for my time zone
...roughly just shy of 3 hrs before your initial post

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Re: Noticed an address change on Eternal-September

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From: nos...@needed.invalid (Paul)
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Subject: Re: Noticed an address change on Eternal-September
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 by: Paul - Sun, 22 Oct 2023 05:59 UTC

On 10/22/2023 1:49 AM, ...winston wrote:
>
> p.s. Clock or Timeserver problem at your end or Eternal Sept problem?
>
> The message time stamp of my reply is accurate for my time zone
>  ...roughly just shy of 3 hrs before your initial post

The clock is wrong because I switched machines in an attempt
to recover function.

*******

Strangely, the situation seems resolved, and I didn't reboot anything.
This is collected on the same machine, as the original report.

PS C:\Users > nslookup news.eternal-september.org

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: news.eternal-september.org
Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
135.181.20.170

PS C:\Users> nslookup www.eternal-september.org

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: news.eternal-september.org
Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
135.181.20.170
Aliases: www.eternal-september.org

Paul

Re: Noticed an address change on Eternal-September

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 by: ....winston - Sun, 22 Oct 2023 07:02 UTC

On 10/22/2023 1:59 AM, Paul wrote:
> On 10/22/2023 1:49 AM, ...winston wrote:
>>
>> p.s. Clock or Timeserver problem at your end or Eternal Sept problem?
>>
>> The message time stamp of my reply is accurate for my time zone
>>  ...roughly just shy of 3 hrs before your initial post
>
> The clock is wrong because I switched machines in an attempt
> to recover function.

Ah, that explains the time stamp....noticed as soon as my post
appeared....were both in -400 zone

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Re: Noticed an address change on Eternal-September

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 by: JJ - Sun, 22 Oct 2023 11:37 UTC

On Sun, 22 Oct 2023 04:32:38 -0400, Paul wrote:
> The following, may make it look like "E-S is down".
>
> It is not. It is working.
>
> However, at the moment, I see this.
>
> The news server has only an IPV6 address (and Teredo no longer exists, for the most part).
>
> PS C:\Users > nslookup news.eternal-september.org
>
> Name: news.eternal-september.org
> Address: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
>
> Whereas the web server still has the normal IPV4/IPV6 assignment look to it.
>
> PS C:\Users > nslookup www.eternal-september.org
>
> Non-authoritative answer:
> Name: news.eternal-september.org
> Addresses: 2a01:4f9:4b:44c2::2
> 135.181.20.170
> Aliases: www.eternal-september.org
>
> It's not clear whether both will transition to the same setup, or not.
>
> *******
>
> Do not panic and try and "rewire" E-S in any way.
> You can make an awful mess, if you "try to fix it the obvious way".
>
> Editing the HOSTS file is probably safer (add an IPV4 entry if you're IPV4 only),
> just don't mod Thunderbird server settings for example.
>
> Let's give Ray a chance to respond in eternal-september.support .
>
> It can take a day to a day and a half, for a DNS change to propagate
> world wide, if this setup changes again.
>
> Paul

No wonder the server response time has become very fast.

It usually took about half a minute to connect. Now it's snappy.

Re: Noticed an address change on Eternal-September

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Newsgroups: alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8,alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject: Re: Noticed an address change on Eternal-September
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 by: Marco Moock - Fri, 3 Nov 2023 12:28 UTC

Am 22.10.2023 schrieb Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>:

> (and Teredo no longer exists, for the most part).

Teredo still exists, although connectivity is very bad and some Teredo
servers don't exist anymore.

If your ISP doesn't give you IPv6, you can use a SIT tunnel from
Hurricane Electric.


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