Why would a SysOp make this sub "Synchronet Discussion" a closed area? Closed
meaning only SysOps can post or reply messages. Any thoughts? Other then SysOPs
can assign access levels to whatever they want. I know that. Is the message
area "Synchronet Discusion" meant to be a closed area? I didn't get the memo
if thats the case. Clarification please?
|07 HusTler

.... A conclusion is simply the place where someone got tired of thinking.

---
■ Synchronet ■ thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)
--- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

To: HusTler
Re: Access??
By: HusTler to All on Mon Nov 29 2021 07:44:23

Hu> Is the message area "Synchronet Discusion" meant to be a closed area? I

No. This sub is for discussion of Synchronet by all interested parties, as far as I know. Not just sysops.

The "Conferences" table on the DOVE-Net wiki page shows what the access requirements should be:

http://wiki.synchro.net/network:dove-net

Hu> Why would a SysOp make this sub "Synchronet Discussion" a closed area?

Probably they misunderstood the purpose/nature of the sub.

Hu> didn't get the memo if thats the case. Clarification please?

Why are you asking?

If you saw some BBS that had this area restricted, you should ask the sysop directly. They probably just made a mistake and need to fix it.

If somebody told you it should be restricted, they were wrong.

---
echicken
electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
---
■ Synchronet ■ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
--- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

To: HusTler
Re: Access??
By: HusTler to All on Mon Nov 29 2021 07:44 am

> Why would a SysOp make this sub "Synchronet Discussion" a closed area?
> Closed meaning only SysOps can post or reply messages. Any thoughts? Other
> then SysOPs can assign access levels to whatever they want. I know that. Is
> the message area "Synchronet Discusion" meant to be a closed area? I didn't
> get the memo
> if thats the case. Clarification please?
>
> |07 HusTler
>

he probably has it confused with that other msg sub for sysops only.
---
■ Synchronet ■ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
--- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

To: HUSTLER
> Why would a SysOp make this sub "Synchronet Discussion" a closed area? Closed
> meaning only SysOps can post or reply messages. Any thoughts? Other then SysOP
> can assign access levels to whatever they want. I know that. Is the message
> area "Synchronet Discusion" meant to be a closed area? I didn't get the memo
> if thats the case. Clarification please?

I don't think it needs to be closed to sysops. It is not here.

* SLMR 2.1a * "Mmmmmmmm.....bacon..."

---
� Synchronet � CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTP
--- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

To: HusTler
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 07:44:23 -0600
"HusTler" <hustler@VERT/PHARCYDE> wrote:

> Why would a SysOp make this sub "Synchronet Discussion" a closed
> area? Closed meaning only SysOps can post or reply messages. Any
> thoughts? Other then SysOPs can assign access levels to whatever they
> want. I know that. Is the message area "Synchronet Discusion" meant
> to be a closed area? I didn't get the memo if thats the case.
> Clarification please?

The bottom line is a sysop can grant (or not) access to any, all, or
none of the forums they carry. Most have rules and they can raise the
ire of a moderator or group owner. In general, follow the rules, but
they're well in their right to restrict access.
--
End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX
telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23
---
� Synchronet � End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com
--- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

To: Nelgin
Re: Re: Access??
By: Nelgin to HusTler on Tue Nov 30 2021 01:03 am

> On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 07:44:23 -0600
> "HusTler" <hustler@VERT/PHARCYDE> wrote:
>
> > Why would a SysOp make this sub "Synchronet Discussion" a closed
> > area? Closed meaning only SysOps can post or reply messages. Any
> > thoughts? Other then SysOPs can assign access levels to whatever they
> > want. I know that. Is the message area "Synchronet Discusion" meant
> > to be a closed area? I didn't get the memo if thats the case.
> > Clarification please?
>
>
> The bottom line is a sysop can grant (or not) access to any, all, or
> none of the forums they carry. Most have rules and they can raise the
> ire of a moderator or group owner. In general, follow the rules, but
> they're well in their right to restrict access.

well he should ask the sysop of pharcyde. i think nick just did it because he confused it with the synchronet sysop echo.
---
■ Synchronet ■ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
--- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

To: echicken
Re: Access??
By: echicken to HusTler on Mon Nov 29 2021 04:21 pm

> > Is the message area "Synchronet Discusion" meant to be a closed area? I

> No. This sub is for discussion of Synchronet by all interested parties, as f
> as I know. Not just sysops.
> The "Conferences" table on the DOVE-Net wiki page shows what the access
> requirements should be:
> Why are you asking?

> If you saw some BBS that had this area restricted, you should ask the sysop
> directly. They probably just made a mistake and need to fix it.

Thanks for the clarification. I asked the SysOP about it and he offered to
give me access if I was a visiting SysOP. I wasn't interested in being part of
a SysOp only Synchronet Discussion sub. I felt it should be open to anyone. But
that's just me I guess.
|07 HusTler

---
■ Synchronet ■ thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)
--- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

To: MRO
Re: Re: Access??
By: MRO to Nelgin on Tue Nov 30 2021 04:48 am

> well he should ask the sysop of pharcyde. i think nick just did it because h
> confused it with the synchronet sysop echo. ---
I have posting priviliges on Pharcyde. It's another BBS I don't have posting
or responding access. I thought it was strange so I asked about it. It's the
SysOPs right to remove posting priviliges on any sub he/she wants. I just don't
understand the logic behind it. Synchronet is a great BBS program and
"Synchronet Discussion" is a great place for folks thinking about running it.
Not just SysOPs. There's already too many SysOp to SysOP boards in my opinion.
;-)
|07 HusTler

---
■ Synchronet ■ thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)
--- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

To: HusTler
Re: Re: Access??
By: HusTler to MRO on Wed Dec 01 2021 01:29 pm

> Re: Re: Access??
> By: MRO to Nelgin on Tue Nov 30 2021 04:48 am
>
> > well he should ask the sysop of pharcyde. i think nick just did it
> > because h confused it with the synchronet sysop echo. ---
> I have posting priviliges on Pharcyde. It's another BBS I don't have
> posting or responding access. I thought it was strange so I asked about it.
> It's the SysOPs right to remove posting priviliges on any sub he/she wants.
> I just don't understand the logic behind it. Synchronet is a great BBS
> program and "Synchronet Discussion" is a great place for folks thinking
> about running it. Not just SysOPs. There's already too many SysOp to SysOP
> boards in my opinion. ;-)

And nowadays, most BBS users *are* (or at least *were*) sysops, so the "sysops only" restriction doesn't make as much sense as it once did.
--
digital man

Rush quote #49:
Some will sell their dreams for small desires or lose the race to rats
Norco, CA WX: 87.4°F, 12.0% humidity, 1 mph S wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
--- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

To: HusTler
Re: Access??
By: HusTler to echicken on Wed Dec 01 2021 13:16:54

Hu> Thanks for the clarification. I asked the SysOP about it and he offered to
Hu> give me access if I was a visiting SysOP. I wasn't interested in being

Yeah - sorry, I didn't realize that you were posting from someone else's BBS at the time. Evidently that sysop misunderstands the sub's purpose.

Hu> part of a SysOp only Synchronet Discussion sub. I felt it should be open
Hu> to anyone. But that's just me I guess.

Since the sub is networked, that's kind of a moot. A non-sysop can post from another BBS and it will show up on his board.

He may have had reasons for locking it down, or it may be a mistake. I'd send him a link to the wiki page that shows the access requirements. If he doesn't want to fix it ... move on, I guess.

---
echicken
electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
---
■ Synchronet ■ electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
--- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

To: HusTler
Re: Re: Access??
By: HusTler to MRO on Wed Dec 01 2021 01:29 pm

> > because h confused it with the synchronet sysop echo. ---
> I have posting priviliges on Pharcyde. It's another BBS I don't have
> posting or responding access. I thought it was strange so I asked about it.
> It's the SysOPs right to remove posting priviliges on any sub he/she wants.
> I just don't understand the logic behind it. Synchronet is a great BBS
> program and "Synchronet Discussion" is a great place for folks thinking
> about running it. Not just SysOPs. There's already too many SysOp to SysOP
> boards in my opinion. ;-)

you could always just create a qwk account on vert and use an offline reader
and upload packets.

or connect to it with a newsreader
---
■ Synchronet ■ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
--- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net