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* !Fireworks and exportingChris Newman
+* Re: !Fireworks and exportingChris Hughes
|`* Re: !Fireworks and exportingChris Newman
| `- Re: !Fireworks and exportingSteve Fryatt
+- Re: !Fireworks and exportingStuart
+- Re: !Fireworks and exportingHarriet Bazley
+* Re: !Fireworks and exportingdruck
|`* Re: !Fireworks and exportingsteve.yande@talktalk.net
| `- Re: !Fireworks and exportingChris Newman
`* Re: !Fireworks and exportingBernard
 `- Re: !Fireworks and exportingChris Newman

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 by: Chris Newman - Wed, 11 May 2022 11:53 UTC

Hi,

If I have a spreadsheet in !Fireworkz Pro 2.31 on the Pi with Riscos 5.28
and wish to export it. The options from the File.Export menu give the
following prefilled save box.....


PlainText Textfile
Rich Text RTF
Comma separated CSV
Microsoft Exel Excel
Lotus 1-2-3 Lotus123

RTF & CSV are useful as the are the Windows extensions and I can just put
a title in front.

It would be helpful if PlainText was TXT & Excel was XLS

Lotus 1-2-3 has several possible extensions. Early versions used the
filename extension "WKS". In version 2.0, the extension changed first to
"WK1", then "WK2". This later became "WK3" for version 3.0 and "WK4" for
version 4.0.
I know not what version !Fireworks exports in.
I tried just having Lotus123 as the extension and LibreOffice recognised
it.
I use Bernard Veasey's app PCType to add extensions but it wouldn't
recognise the Lotus one. I checked and those Lotus extensions are in my
MimeMap.

Before I bother Andrew, is there a way of improving things?

--
Chris Newman

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 by: Chris Hughes - Wed, 11 May 2022 13:31 UTC

In message <59e6e5561ecvjazz@waitrose.com>
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> Hi,

> If I have a spreadsheet in !Fireworkz Pro 2.31 on the Pi with Riscos 5.28
> and wish to export it. The options from the File.Export menu give the
> following prefilled save box.....

> PlainText Textfile
> Rich Text RTF
> Comma separated CSV
> Microsoft Exel Excel
> Lotus 1-2-3 Lotus123

> RTF & CSV are useful as the are the Windows extensions and I can just put
> a title in front.

> It would be helpful if PlainText was TXT & Excel was XLS

Agreed.

You might be better posting this sort of thing on the Fireworkz mailing
list, then Stuart the programmer would see it.

> Before I bother Andrew, is there a way of improving things?

Have a choice option to add or not the default file extension to saved
files regardless of filetype. Sine Nominmine have done this for files that
can be exported to other platforms.

I think Andrew is going to be very very busy for the next two or three
weeks since he is at Big Ben show this Saturday and then the Wakefield
Show (actually in Bradford) the following weekend.

--
Chris Hughes
Don't miss this years Wakefield Show 21st May 2022 - we have moved to
Cedar Court Hotel, Bradford
Check the latest information at www.wakefieldshow.org.uk

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 by: Chris Newman - Wed, 11 May 2022 14:34 UTC

In article <9e54eee659.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
<news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <59e6e5561ecvjazz@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
> <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> > Hi,

> > If I have a spreadsheet in !Fireworkz Pro 2.31 on the Pi with Riscos
> > 5.28 and wish to export it. The options from the File.Export menu
> > give the following prefilled save box.....

> > PlainText Textfile Rich Text RTF Comma separated
> > CSV Microsoft Exel Excel Lotus 1-2-3 Lotus123

> > RTF & CSV are useful as the are the Windows extensions and I can just
> > put a title in front.

> > It would be helpful if PlainText was TXT & Excel was XLS

> Agreed.

> You might be better posting this sort of thing on the Fireworkz mailing
> list, then Stuart the programmer would see it.

That's one mailing list I'm not on. Quick look in Fireworkz help didn't
give me a link. Any help gratefully received.

> > Before I bother Andrew, is there a way of improving things?

> Have a choice option to add or not the default file extension to saved
> files regardless of filetype. Sine Nominmine have done this for files
> that can be exported to other platforms.

> I think Andrew is going to be very very busy for the next two or three
> weeks since he is at Big Ben show this Saturday and then the Wakefield
> Show (actually in Bradford) the following weekend.

I knew that would be the case so I didn't want to give him more to think
about.

--
Chris Newman

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 by: Steve Fryatt - Wed, 11 May 2022 14:59 UTC

On 11 May, Chris Newman wrote in message
<59e6f41a64cvjazz@waitrose.com>:

> In article <9e54eee659.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
> <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > You might be better posting this sort of thing on the Fireworkz mailing
> > list, then Stuart the programmer would see it.
>
> That's one mailing list I'm not on. Quick look in Fireworkz help didn't
> give me a link. Any help gratefully received.

Try the Fireworkz site, under "Support":

https://croftnuisk.co.uk/coltsoft/fireworkz

--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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 by: Stuart - Wed, 11 May 2022 16:00 UTC

In article <59e6e5561ecvjazz@waitrose.com>,
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> If I have a spreadsheet in !Fireworkz Pro 2.31 on the Pi with Riscos 5.28
> and wish to export it. The options from the File.Export menu give the
> following prefilled save box.....

>
> PlainText Textfile
> Rich Text RTF
> Comma separated CSV
> Microsoft Exel Excel
> Lotus 1-2-3 Lotus123

> RTF & CSV are useful as the are the Windows extensions and I can just put
> a title in front.

> It would be helpful if PlainText was TXT & Excel was XLS

I don't know for sure but I think all you need to do is to add /txt to the
file you create. Won't take a moment for you to check anyway.

--
Stuart Winsor

Tools With A Mission
sending tools across the world
http://www.twam.co.uk/

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 by: Harriet Bazley - Wed, 11 May 2022 13:18 UTC

On 11 May 2022 as I do recall,
Chris Newman wrote:

> If I have a spreadsheet in !Fireworkz Pro 2.31 on the Pi with Riscos 5.28
> and wish to export it. The options from the File.Export menu give the
> following prefilled save box.....
>
> PlainText Textfile
> Rich Text RTF
> Comma separated CSV
> Microsoft Exel Excel
> Lotus 1-2-3 Lotus123
>
> RTF & CSV are useful as the are the Windows extensions and I can just put
> a title in front.
>
> It would be helpful if PlainText was TXT & Excel was XLS

The menu isn't intended to list Windows file extensions - it's listing
RISC OS filetypes, i.e. what will be displayed by the Filer on your own
computer.

--
Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

He that would govern others, first should be master of himself.

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 by: druck - Wed, 11 May 2022 18:15 UTC

On 11/05/2022 12:53, Chris Newman wrote:
> I tried just having Lotus123 as the extension and LibreOffice recognised
> it.
> I use Bernard Veasey's app PCType to add extensions but it wouldn't
> recognise the Lotus one. I checked and those Lotus extensions are in my
> MimeMap.

The extension for Lotus123 is 123

---druck

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 by: steve.yande@talktalk - Wed, 11 May 2022 20:38 UTC

On Wednesday, 11 May 2022 at 19:15:43 UTC+1, druck wrote:
> On 11/05/2022 12:53, Chris Newman wrote:
> > I tried just having Lotus123 as the extension and LibreOffice recognised
> > it.
> > I use Bernard Veasey's app PCType to add extensions but it wouldn't
> > recognise the Lotus one. I checked and those Lotus extensions are in my
> > MimeMap.
> The extension for Lotus123 is 123
>
> ---druck
I would export as CSV if you want to transfer it to Widows (or Linux); I use Libre Office, and the file menu allows simply to open the CSV file, which can be reformatted within the spreadsheet.

HTH
Steve

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 by: Chris Newman - Wed, 11 May 2022 23:13 UTC

In article <d99563d5-2092-41a9-8a47-48b88d61bddfn@googlegroups.com>,
steve.yande@talktalk.net <steve.yande@talktalk.net> wrote:
> On Wednesday, 11 May 2022 at 19:15:43 UTC+1, druck wrote:
> > On 11/05/2022 12:53, Chris Newman wrote:
> > > I tried just having Lotus123 as the extension and LibreOffice
> > > recognised it. I use Bernard Veasey's app PCType to add
> > > extensions but it wouldn't recognise the Lotus one. I checked and
> > > those Lotus extensions are in my MimeMap.
> > The extension for Lotus123 is 123
> >
> > ---druck
> I would export as CSV if you want to transfer it to Widows (or Linux);
> I use Libre Office, and the file menu allows simply to open the CSV
> file, which can be reformatted within the spreadsheet.

Yes, Iusually use that but just wanted to see what would happen with
Lotus.

--
Chris Newman

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 by: Bernard - Fri, 13 May 2022 08:31 UTC

In message <59e6e5561ecvjazz@waitrose.com>
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> If I have a spreadsheet in !Fireworkz Pro 2.31 on the Pi with Riscos 5.28
> and wish to export it. The options from the File.Export menu give the
> following prefilled save box.....
> PlainText Textfile
> Rich Text RTF
> Comma separated CSV
> Microsoft Exel Excel
> Lotus 1-2-3 Lotus123

> I use Bernard Veasey's app PCType to add extensions but it wouldn't
> recognise the Lotus one.

That's why PCType has a feature where you can add your own PC extension.
eg. Switch Auto off and manually enter 123 to replace the ### that is
shown in the PCType window, then drag your Fireworks Lotus123 exported
file to PCType and it will be added to the existing filename.

Alternatively, if you add:
123 DB0 # Lotus123
to the list in the !>PCType.Types file, the 'Auto' method will work.
It's all explained in !>PCType.!Help

!PCType now updated to v0.12 which has '123 DB0 # Lotus123' added to its
'Types' file. It's now on my website.

Bernard
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 by: Chris Newman - Fri, 13 May 2022 21:40 UTC

In article <bd8fdae759.Bernard@iMX6>, Bernard
<bernard@nospam.bapfish.org.uk> wrote:
> In message <59e6e5561ecvjazz@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
> <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> > If I have a spreadsheet in !Fireworkz Pro 2.31 on the Pi with Riscos
> > 5.28 and wish to export it. The options from the File.Export menu
> > give the following prefilled save box..... PlainText
> > Textfile Rich Text RTF Comma separated CSV Microsoft
> > Exel Excel Lotus 1-2-3 Lotus123

> > I use Bernard Veasey's app PCType to add extensions but it wouldn't
> > recognise the Lotus one.

> That's why PCType has a feature where you can add your own PC
> extension. eg. Switch Auto off and manually enter 123 to replace the
> ### that is shown in the PCType window, then drag your Fireworks
> Lotus123 exported file to PCType and it will be added to the existing
> filename.

> Alternatively, if you add: 123 DB0 # Lotus123 to the list in the
> !>PCType.Types file, the 'Auto' method will work. It's all explained in
> !>PCType.!Help

> !PCType now updated to v0.12 which has '123 DB0 # Lotus123' added to
> its 'Types' file. It's now on my website.

Tanks you, Bernard. How wonderfully efficient of you. Now downloaded &
working.

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