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Re: Why do Apple operating systems *just die* while all modern operating systems last, essentially, almost forever?

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Subject: Re: Why do Apple operating systems *just die* while all modern operating systems last, essentially, almost forever?
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 by: JAB - Thu, 18 Aug 2022 21:38 UTC

On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 17:25:24 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>> Why wouldn't you want your iOS applications to be updated for many years
>> after the operating system is no longer being updated
>
> they are.
>
> however, that's up to the app developer, not apple.

Not for the Apple apps like the messenger, mail & the web browser it's not.
Android app updates last ~10 years longer than do iOS app security updates.

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In article <tdmb9m$s66$1@gioia.aioe.org>, JAB <here@is.invalid> wrote:

>
> The iOS and Android operating system and patches last about the same time.

no they don't.

>
> App security updates on Android will last ~ten years longer than on iOS.

no it won't.

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 by: JAB - Thu, 18 Aug 2022 22:15 UTC

On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 18:02:29 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>> The iOS and Android operating system and patches last about the same time.
>
> no they don't.

Yes they do.
It's about 5 years for OS & patches for similar price Android & iOS phones.

>> App security updates on Android will last ~ten years longer than on iOS.
>
> no it won't.

Yes they will.
Most app security updates occur ~ten years longer on Android than on iOS.

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On 2022-08-18 21:32:37 +0000, JAB said:

> On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 09:21:17 +1200, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>
>> Another braindead troll added to the killfile.
>
> You said Android copied Apple on the five years of OS & security updates.
> I agreed with you.
>
> I brought up the similar idea that Apple should think about copying Android
> on the ten or more years of app security updates.
>
> You plonked me for that app security improvement suggestion.
> That says much about you.

Ahh, the typical idiotic troll changes his posting name. What a
braindead fuckwit!:-\

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Fri, 26 Aug 2022 16:06 UTC

Another example where iOS apps are always the shortest lived of all common
consumer operating systems came up today when Steve mentioned the iPhone16.
*Is Astrophotography Coming to the iPhone 14/iOS 16?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/AXaIL5WZ4qY>

Almost all of Android is open sourced, so it's easy for people to port the
best Google apps (such as the ones Steve talked about iOS maybe getting).

As always, Android lasts (nearly) forever while iOS apps... well...
*iOS just dies*

Sorry. While Android apps live on (essentially) forever... your iOS apps...
*They just die*
--
The weakness of all the iKooks is that they hate all facts about Apple iOS.

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 by: Alan - Fri, 26 Aug 2022 16:36 UTC

On 2022-08-26 09:06, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Another example where iOS apps are always the shortest lived of all common
> consumer operating systems came up today when Steve mentioned the iPhone16.
> *Is Astrophotography Coming to the iPhone 14/iOS 16?*
> <https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/AXaIL5WZ4qY>
>
> Almost all of Android is open sourced, so it's easy for people to port the
> best Google apps (such as the ones Steve talked about iOS maybe getting).
>
> As always, Android lasts (nearly) forever while iOS apps... well...
> *iOS just dies*
>
> Sorry. While Android apps live on (essentially) forever... your iOS
> apps...     *They just die*

Unsupported assertions in just this one post:

1. "Almost all of Android is open sourced"

2. "Android apps live on (essentially) forever"

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