Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:

> On 20/02/2023 20:04, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2023-02-20 07:33, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >>> mechanic <mechanic@example.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 22:56:10 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> As long as people need to type in passwords they aren't going to
> >>>>> use long and complicated strings.
> >>>>
> >>>> No excuse!
> >>>
> >>> And long passwords need not be difficult.
> >>> 1RoseByAnyOtherNameWillSmellAsSweet!
> >>> will be just fine,
> >>
> >> Good, but insert a few numbers/spec chars in the middle too ... along
> >> with a misspelled word and caps in the "wrong" places ... and it will be
> >> as good as random where a dictionary+brute force attack occurs.
> >
> > Most sites insist nowadays on at least one digit,
> > one capitalised letter, and one special sign.
> > My example complies,
>
>
> I often seem to manage to pick the one special character that isn't
> allowed! Then the website doesn't tell me what's wrong, it just repeats
> what it already told me, something like "your password must include at
> least 8 characters including one lowercase letter, one uppercase letter,
> one digit, and one special character or punctuation symbol".

I've found some sites don't accept the question mark,

Jan

On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 20:38:21 -0000, J. J. Lodder <nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:

> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 10:14:12 -0000, J. J. Lodder <nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>:
>>
>> > Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 20:04:48 -0000, J. J. Lodder:
>> >>
>> >> > Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 20/2/2023 8:42 pm, Chris wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > At work one time, I set up my password as a 25 character random
>> >> >> > string via my password manager which was great until they decided to
>> >> >> > sync the network password with the local password on my machine. So
>> >> >> > when when I needed to login after a reboot or screensaver kicks in I
>> >> >> > had to type it in manually.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You should use your brain to memorize all 25-character random strings.
>> >> >>:)
>> >> >
>> >> > No problem with that at all, for me.
>> >> > The problem is memorising a few particular ones,
>> >>
>> >> Are you telling me you can remember something like £Q%HarbE^7jaerH$j4w6j?
>> >
>> > Do read again what I wrote,
>>
>> You only wrote:
>> >> > No problem with that at all, for me.
>> >> > The problem is memorising a few particular ones,
>> What exactly did I miss?
>
> I can remember all of them, and none in particular,

Cannot parse sentence.

On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 13:51:31 -0000, J. J. Lodder <nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:

> Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 20/02/2023 20:04, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> > Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2023-02-20 07:33, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> >>> mechanic <mechanic@example.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 22:56:10 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> As long as people need to type in passwords they aren't going to
>> >>>>> use long and complicated strings.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> No excuse!
>> >>>
>> >>> And long passwords need not be difficult.
>> >>> 1RoseByAnyOtherNameWillSmellAsSweet!
>> >>> will be just fine,
>> >>
>> >> Good, but insert a few numbers/spec chars in the middle too ... along
>> >> with a misspelled word and caps in the "wrong" places ... and it will be
>> >> as good as random where a dictionary+brute force attack occurs.
>> >
>> > Most sites insist nowadays on at least one digit,
>> > one capitalised letter, and one special sign.
>> > My example complies,
>>
>>
>> I often seem to manage to pick the one special character that isn't
>> allowed! Then the website doesn't tell me what's wrong, it just repeats
>> what it already told me, something like "your password must include at
>> least 8 characters including one lowercase letter, one uppercase letter,
>> one digit, and one special character or punctuation symbol".
>
> I've found some sites don't accept the question mark,

I've never had symbols denied. I have had a space in my username denied though.

To pick a password, I tap the shift key with one hand, while mashing the letters and numbers with the other, so I get something like E^J*4^JHd6u.

Then when I go to copy and paste it from my text file of passwords, I come back to the website and find a red marker saying I'm an idiot for not entering the password. Either that or I fill in the form in the order I think of things, and it gets very upset saying I forgot the other thing, just because I dared to enter my name first. Or I fill everything in, press ok, then it complains the captcha which hadn't loaded yet hadn't been filled in, then it removes the password I entered, so when I fill in the captcha, it's still annoyed. Web designers are morons.